I genuinely think it’s the first time in a long time he has gotten serious consequences for his behavior. I feel bad for him and wish him luck in his personal life and growth.
People will say Pilav memes sexually with the boys all the time but he is always with the boys on discord while it happens. Never the girls he memes on. They're not friends
i mean yeah, that is a valid point, the other point is that it hugely depends on how well you know someone, with my friends we also throw insults at each other and no one gives a damn because we know each other and we know that it IS a joke, however with someone you barely know that doesnt work as well, especially when the person isnt actually present to be in on the joke
@@vhaelen326 Let's say you make a certain joke towards your best friend that also is insulting to other people. Just because your friend knows it's a joke, does NOT mean the other people implicated will. This is known as harassment, in the workplace.
I have to give Tyler credit for addressing it and pushing back on the "its not that bad" comment. People can do what they want on their own time but now theres this community of people linked together through hardcore WoW and certain expectations of conduct (on a pretty basic level imo, Tyler even said he didnt care about shit talk, banter, insults but this crossed a line) are being upheld. Kinda sad that it sounds like this is the first time anything is even being done about how some of these streamers talk about the women in the community. And its just a gkick from the guild, not like he cant keep streaming and acting how he wants, he just cant do it while he's involved with OnlyFangs.
True but the gKick is a bit bigger than that, cuz he loses the access to the others helping him create content naturally and unnaturally as well as plus he loses the access to their audience.
Well, lots of people including me knew this was gonna happen. His persona didn't quite match with the onlyfangs energy. It is what it is, people split ways, sucks for himz he didn't get the right idea of the vibe, Tate stuff not for wow.
@@lizzyetj yea and he deserves it. You don't have to feel sorry for someone who can't behave. The audience of normal streamers doesn't like Pilav anyways and nobody will flock to his stream. People are only disgusted by his behaviour.
Watching the end of your vid when annie talks about it really hit different. She looks dejected, like she can't do anything about it, and she doesn't want to bring it up, because people might get upset at her for "making it a big deal", so she's just taking it... Ye, Tyler1 made the right decision. Even If Annie was honest to god not bothered whatsoever, I can see it bother abunch of other female streamers, and it definetly affects the mood whether to keep playing with onlyfangs and to keep streaming World of Warcraft, because you always do the calculations in the back of your head "is this still worth it?". And yes, those comments will affect that calculation.
It’s definitely hurting her, we have so many women these days who have no choice but to develop thick skin because guys can’t grow up. And I’m speaking as a conservative who used to be more anti-feminism. IMO once your brain finishes developing at 27 and you have enough experience with girls to understand their perspective etc. and you are willing to be honest and drop stubborn unhealthy views, you really don’t find this stuff fun, and only see it as harmful and encouraging thousands of young boys to continue cultivating a sexist mind. Sorry for those who disagree, maybe give it more time to understand.
annie said she never had an issue with pilav, disgusting to see people like you who try to turn this around on pilav and it was annie that had an issue with him. this was always on pilav's chat and how 1-2 % of his chat is super degen and chat hop to spread hate. ur a toxic human who is white knightig so damn hard its sad. get a life
she cares about those 7k subs she got that day from drama so she did not care about him calling her ugly she cared more about people coming in to her chat and spreading stupid stuff and that is it , she got so many subs so it dos not matter plus Pilav got today 8k vives his peak viewership he is around 1k to 2k views so its a win win for both of them
This whole pilav situation is an amazing way to tell who is mentally or physically still 14 years old lol. If you don’t think what Pilav said was bad then you’re still stuck in middle school
100000% - the chatter saying "you people are too soft" is clearly an emotionally stunted, immature child. This "edge is cool" crowd seems to be getting physically older, and we're seeing them everywhere (politics, ffs), but mentally they're trapped in childish, neanderthal brains...
I always say this. The majority of people watching or commenting on these streamers videos seriously type exactly like a 12 year old. They all use the same words and insults, no originality.
If he were to be asked about her and reply she's not his type, that would be enough, but he just took it to a level that no one even wants to see, even when I was a teen I would be taken aback by that statement.
Best part is he's said "I shouldn't have said that but I meant it, like I mean it stil but yeahl" about 20 times while he waited on Tyler in the call and after he got kicked, yet he claims that he didn't mean it while talking to Tyler and that he said he's sorry and that it was a joke. Lol
i mean does this count as sexual harrassment at the workplace for u guys? the g kick was justified imo, everyone who says otherwhise should really think twice about how to talk to coworkers im srs
@plokoon100 i get what u mean, but at the end of the day, the whole guild is a content guild, so this would've happened anyways with other reactions and other streamers opinions
According to Soda he had talked to Pilav and gave warnings multiple times already and a lot of people were uncomfortable with him being in the guild from the beginning. Was only a matter of time til something happened from his remarks.
@@plokoon100it will have a surge right now, yes. But in the long run, it’s good for the community and for these streamers in general, as Tyler just showed the audience to all their streamers collectively, that this behaviour is not okay.
It's ridiculous to think that Annie doesn't care. She cares, but she is resigned to the fact that nobody will do anything about it, so she will try to ignore it to protect her feelings.
It's so sad to me that she specifically mentioned Savix as one of the male streamers she feels like doesn't care and well... she was right because he added a clip of her saying that at the end of his video about the situation without acknowledging it - the same video in which he said he's gonna keep being friends and making content with Pilav :/
I watched her stream and she spent so much time saying she didn't mind but it felt like she was saying it because she didn't want to be harassed by his viewers. She kept saying she has noting to do with this and didn’t want to be harassed. She can't even feel annoyed by what he says without his viewers attacking her.
I knew T1 only from some LoL drama and that he played "Draven only" - thanks to OnlyFangs I've learned his lore and gotta say... this guy is really built different. Incredible human being, not even joking here - and a really good dude despite his macho persona
I think some of the poor understand of why its inappropriate comments has to do with being edgy was understood to be an opt-in interaction not an opt-out. Further muddled by it being online and each streamer really having their own brand. From the point-of-view of an edgy streamer viewer its an on-brand comment but its jarringly inappropriate for the more general streamer target audience.
Crazy that so many in even Guzu's chat were defending Pilav. No one is simping for Annie, no one is soft, Pilav just did something stupid and he had to face the consequences for it.
Yeah it's an extremely weak excuse. Going to extremes imagine someone saying "I didn't mean to say a slur, chat tricked me!" It makes you look incompetent at best, malicious at worst.
@@l337pwnage Don't know, I didn't personally check the streamer to see if they had to "resort to" it after trying out several other things in order to be ready for your strawman.
The sheer amount of people saying it's not a big deal/t1 is wrong here/it's not that serious don't seem to be able to empathize with what it's like on the other side. I liked alot of Pilav's content, he's very funny sometimes. The issue is that when you normalize reducing women to their attractiveness or their ladyparts, that normalizes the objectification of them and treats them like they're not really people. It's gross.
The problem isn't the cringe streamer. The problem is the cringe streamer's army of sycophants who will likely go on to harass the people commented on. Just don't make sexual comments about any other streamer.
Cultivate your community. If you just want to "become big", then you clearly put next to no effort into trying to moderate or cultivate that community, because everybody's let in. It's not his fault, but he still holds partial responsibility. And how you act and behave influences others (obviously).
You are not soft Guzu. Annie probably doesn't want to have anything to do with it. Sometimes it's better to know you guys have her back but not throw gas on the situation solely because it was about her. Who wants to be with that many people and everything is related to sex. It's a group of like minded individuals there for a professional situation that revolves around this content. The article wouldn't be on Rolling Stone if it wasn't. So to all the comments about being sensitive put it in that perspective.
Man don’t put it on savix. He wasn’t in huge contact with pilav and he said it’s correct to kick him. Besides that let him befriend whoever he wants to
the answer to "People are too sensitive" - well, if you're deliberately poking at things that bother people, is it their fault that you deliberately poked them? I don't think so. Go have a circle with other guys who think they're tough and stop trying to interact with people who call you out on your stupid behavior. Any person in the world if they thought about it could figure out something that would make them blow up if some jerk started going on about it online, it's called being human and having things you care about. It might be your mother or your grandmother or your puppy dog. But oh no ha ha let's crap all over your favorite thing and act surprised that people don't want to be with you.
@@lucianocortes8636 Behind the scenes, probably not so much, but they are employees, they have to put on a show. Guzu almost broke character a bit when he laughed at one of Pilav's statements, but then he put his "serious" face back on, lol.
The problem with this and even a lot of banter, is viewers then think its ok to say the same things. Annie can take it from Pilav, because she knows the deal with him, especially from the last time they had drama a few years back. What she can't handle is her chat being blown up by Pilav viewers then taunting her with the same crap. The Snowymixy comment was just him saying what a viewer said to him IRL. That's the problem though, if you foster a community of people acting the same way, then you shouldn't be surprised that your community is toxic. That sort of 'joke' pulls in the folk that find edgy humour funny. He's been really kind of toxic in a lot of the other ways too. It was definitely a cumulation of things and i think it was actually Makaila that raised this final clip with T1 giving a girls perspective. The most surprising thing about all the recent dramas is how T1 has responded. I've always just thought of him as just another toxic league streamer, but, he has shown how much he's grown. He's had some really good takes.
I should add, I like Pilav but streaming should be seen as a job. There's a lot of money involved these days and I don't know any workplace that would put up with this kind of schtick. I honestly believed he was going to listen to Savix and tone it down but that didn't last long. Within the first few hours of OnlyFangs he was talking quite poorly about PalmBee. I know he was joking, but, he didn't know her that well at that point and his community made that whole thing worse.
@@dabillya6845 yeah that might be, i might be taking it out on t1 since i hate him with all my being after the inting and flaming he did back in the day on lol. i dont think he has changed and are still the biggest human trash there is. but that should not have an effect on this situatiion. so might be me over criticising him unfairly.
its sad that she is gonna get the backlash on this because his community will think she was the reason he got gkicked. And that is why she says "its okay, it doesn't bother me) so she doesn't get harassed, anyone with a brain knows she's not okay with it.
If you're a grown adult, its your own job to not let words hurt you. They're literally just words and someone's opinion, it doesn't affect you unless you let it affect you.
Pilav hasn't changed in years. I stopped watching his YT years ago because of his personality, thought he might have changed but I guess not. Boys gotta grow up
I first met Pilav about 10 years ago in a random battleground on then retail. He claimed he was a famous streamer, then proceeded to not actively participate properly (essentially AFKing) in said BG, and just sat there spamming racist, sexist and childish gibberish which was poorly written and barely legible in the BG chat on cooldown. I legitimately thought it was a sweaty 12 year old, needless to say it didn't take long for him to be ignored by probably most of the BG. Looks like 10 years later nothing has changed, I'm genuinely confused why anyone finds this attitude entertaining to watch on a steam, but each to their own.
It must be a young guy thing when you and the chat think Annie was "fine with it", she clearly wasn't. She's just trying to get through, look at her eyes.
He was being sarcastic, he was calling out his chat that was calling it not a big deal and saying she doesn’t actually care. He clarifies that around the 19ish minute mark about a minute or two later.
Yeah wth how could anyone listen to her and translate it as "She's fine" because she's been dealing with sexual comments for years and has learned to ignore them because there was nothing else to do. Really disappointed in so many in his chat blowing this and all the other shit Pilaf has said off.
Why she cares is she has to deal with her chat. Savix pointed out the same thing. If this was behind the scenes private stuff, wouldn't be a big deal, but you get the public involved and it's much more stressful. Pilav understands the concept of a public and private persona, but he has a hard time separating them. Actually, ask any modern comedian the problems of doing ANY jokes in the last 10 years. Even left wing comedians that have been in the biz decades basically stopping doing certain shows and some just, basically, "retired" because of cancel culture.
The thing is, it's not hard to not be a douche online. I don't know what it is about many streamers these days and maybe it brings them views but saying stuff like this isn't cool. Also, props to Tyler1 who I have come to respect more watching him play WoW with OnlyFangs. I used to think he was just a toxic roid league player but playing WoW with OnlyFangs has actually brought more of his real personality out.
Also, tyler has a daughter, as i do. He (same as me) probably found this shit bad before, but it hits on a whole different level if you imagine ANYONE talking about your own daughter in that way. Made the right call 100%
I really hate the "it's not that bad/it's just a joke" and "some chat message baited me to say it" thing. The whole it's just a joke thing is like those prank channels doing fucked up shit on random people and then called it a prank, as if they won't get into any trouble after saying the line. Blaming on chat also doesn't make sense at all. While yeah that chat message might annoyed him and made him to respond, but I don't think that viewer hijacked his brain and made him say all those stuff by sending a chat message. What he said is still thought by his brain and spoken from his mouth, nothing gonna changed that. I don't mind pliav sayting those edgy jokes personally but he should only make those joke around people that are comfortable with his joke and vibe with him. I like making edgy jokes from time to time but as a person with basic social skills after talking to people irl(really hard i know), I know when you should or shouldn't say it and where's the limit according to the group of people. It's really not a hard thing to do but he just keep making those jokes that clearly only he and his viewers are laughing at while not considering the consequences of them. At the end of the day, onlyfangs is clearly not his vibe and he should just join a guild/play with people that match his edgy personality.
I liked Pilav, he made the first 2 weeks of Onlyfangs really exciting for me, and I liked the dynamics with him and you, Xaryu, Savix and even the dungeons with Tyler1. But what really threw me off is, when he told these stories of him being in prison for a few years, and now he's back. And a week later I find out that was just a wholecloth lie, to entertain his viewers for engageement, when Xaryu asked him about it during a SM dungeon run (xaryu seemed like he was both curious + worried, if Pilav was in actual trouble). I believed Pilav. Now I realize it's just normal for him to lie about these things for entertainment. Joke's on me I guess for believing he was more authentic than that.
Tbh I don't agree with Guzu that what Pilav did is bad because they are in a streamer guild. If anything at least in a streamer guild it's easier to get them face consequences, prove what they did and so on. It's common for women to deal with those things in normal non streamer communities and it sucks.
It's disgusting how people are willfully misinterpreting what Annie says. She says it's fine etc purely for the reason that she doesn't want to get harassed for getting Pilav banned. You should watch out for others "especially" when they don't dare stand up for themselves. She feels VERY obviously uncomfortable about this situation. You can tell how dejected she is that all other male streamers keep supporting him, she accepts it out of necessity, to protect herself.
I like Savix, but he keeps company with some really strange dudes. He needs to develop better judgement of character, or else they will drag him down with them
@@jamesg9468 is it possible that maybe you and some others here might just not see that Savix is a good dude encouraging Pilav to be healthier and happier by being his friend? I used to have a more black and white view like that but these days I feel like there’s nothing wrong with what Savix is doing. He did the right thing.
Or you need to grow up for assuming your opinion is the correct one and can’t be any other way when you are holding a negative view. Read previous comment. People who get it will, those who don’t , well that stinks for them lol.
Or you need to grow up for assuming your opinion is the correct one and can’t be any other way when you are holding a negative view. Read previous comment. People who get it will, those who don’t , well that stinks for them lol.
Yup, at a certain point we can’t blame people being too sensitive, too many folk think that not filtering what they say is a good and proud thing to do, when all it shows is impulsivity and a lack of social awareness.
but he didn't stream. It was mostly youtube videos. And when its in a video, most people see it as a comedy bit. On a stream, people expect some authenticy (mostly cuz its hard to keep a character going for 10+ hours for the whole stream), so it hits different.
People thinking that Annie was saying PIlav's actions were OK by her response shows they have no social skills or are just gross. She's saying she would be SURPRISED if Tyler banned him because so many men are treating women like this and think it's ok, which is gross. She clearly has been bothered by it so long but gave up as no one would take action. It's actually disgusting it took this long. Best call by Tyler, keep it up big little man
Anthony joselnik said it well, the problem is not how edgy the joke is, its that it just wasnt really funny and it was a bit too focused on specific people
The issue IS Pilav, but I'm sure it is "easy enough" to ignore him (don't group with him or be in call with him). The bigger problem is I would almost guarantee his army of 10 year olds constantly went into these people's chats and parroted anything he said and that will just wear down on you over time and require so much additional moderation for something not your fault (being born a woman).
Hardcore has a better community, it’s one of the reasons I love this game mode. However WoW in general is literally known for having a toxic community full of trolls. When your comments are too much for even the wow trolls I don’t think there is any “soft” or “snowflake” about it. T1 made the right call here, they don’t need that crap.
Whatever viewer was defending his actions is delusional. Annie said that obviously the stuff was accepted, so that's why she didnt make a deal about it. Crazy take from your viewer
This is like any other guild drama, if this stuff was said in guild chat.. They would of been kicked a while ago in most guilds. Bad mouthing other guildies never goes down well.
To me there's ways to do edgy humour that's super funny but his kinda edgy humour is just so lazy that it feels more like someone saying they're views rather than crafting a joke.
I dont think pilav is a bad guy or wants to cause drama for people, I just think hes not cut out for being a streamer. A big part of that is being careful what you say and how you are perceived and he doesnt seem to have the ability to tone it down. I dont think the question "how would they feel" or "how does this make me come across to other people" have ever entered his mind. Like his humour or not, I dont think it's fair to say hes a bad person. I think the kick was a bit strong, but I understand it.
The "you guys are too soft" and "there is nothing here" need to understand that in polite society this doesn't fly. Its about respect. I understand talking about this kind of shit seems fine because he says it all the time but outside of the incel community its disqualifying conduct. He said she would have an orgasm just looking at him and people are like "whats the big deal?". Spoiler alert - its a big fucking deal. If you don't think its a big deal, understand why you're objectively wrong and absorb the life advise.
Pilav is that kind of guy nobody wants as a reallifefriend. He has this Basic aggressiveness and gets mad instant and screams and beeing totally offensive.. It might be that culture there, but in a normal society, this attitude and behavor nobody likes and want.
Edit: got to the point where you mentioned the sarcasm. Still, you know how kids are online these days and your sarcasm was clearly not obvious enough.. Holy shit Guzu when you said something like «I guess you’re right chat, she doesn’t care at all» after watching her reaction to the Pilav situation, I can’t tell if you’re being honest or sarcastic. If you are actually not seeing that this is a huge problem that has been going on for years as she states with a resigned and sad tone, then I just lost a lot of respect for you. She is CLEARLY not OK with it, and sounds utterly disappointed that people are still supporting Pilav to the extent that they are. I hope you were being sarcastic, but even then, that’s not supportive at all. «I guess it’s okay if I’m… the target this time…» means she has given up hope that others actually care. Fuck me dude…
Can't believe how many guzu chatters wanted to white knight for this disrespectful dude. Ironic accusing others of that simply for having basic respect meanwhile they wanna take a bullet for the cringe man.
I think that Pilavs comments would be "okay",only if Annie would be also offensive and combative. But it seems she took it just passively and tried not to get more attention, so he should apologize. You don't attack people that can't defend themselves male or female. I still enjoyed some of his videos.
He didn’t get gkicked only for insulting a woman’s looks but ok. And he didn’t get exiled, he got kicked from a content guild. But yea continue being a professional victim when you’re not even involved
he was kicked for a lot of reasons, but talking about Annie having "giant p**sy" and making palmbee climax was the last straw for Tyler. He was warned about making sexual comments by Soda, and as a streamer you gotta know that if you give the chat an inch they'll take it too far. Everyone defending pilav are coping.
Thing was annie didnt report it but yhis wasnt even the first report pilav have, soda already confirmed that he had numerous of reports, he even opens up peoples stream when theyre bantering and shit talking and viewers chat hop. Like i get the edgy content love pilav and savix together but youre in a guild with other streamers and people you dont evene know and dont even know you, edgy jokes wont fly, since not everyone will understand your humor
He plays a character and there's alot of streamers that are low key white knights at heart. I don't think it was bad what he said alittle chuckle and move on honestly. Too many streamers got caught up in the MeToo movement and are afraid to joke about anything when it comes to women. NMP is doing life right.
NMP only banters with his female friends, and he says it to their face so they can banter back. Pilav was showing off to his edgelords in chat, and is saying this behind their back essentially. Tyler said Pilav already had a lot of strikes, but talking about Annie's p^^sy and making palmbee climax was the last straw for Tyler.
tyler insults people all the time and no one cares. i would say just g kick him and his bad vibes instead. But everyone is scared to say anything to him. They could lose viewer. Ridiculous.
Never liked pilav, so whatever. The reaction to it was equally as cringe, basically treating Annie like a child. Oh no, gotta protect her, she precious and fragile, poor child. Quite demeaning. She'll also get hate with it being openly shown like that, good job.
What you walk by, you condone/accept - Pilav’s comments were misogynistic and toxic and every time he appears on any of the streamers videos I watch I have problems with something he says and usually end up not watching.
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WoW the game that makes grown adults act like teenagers since 2004. There’s always gotta be an edgelord and a hypersensitive person in every guild and it just causes drama every time. I don’t do well with people which is why I never say anything and jam music when I’m playing
people are way overreacting to this. is it just because he said it on stream? or are people pretending this isn't normal conversation between friends? you telling me you've never called someone ugly before? ISNANE cope.
Nah, he was talking about Annie having "giant p**sy" and making palmbee climax. He was warned about making sexual comments, and as a streamer you gotta know that if you give the chat an inch they'll take it too far. Everyone defending pilav are coping.
Well - See ya Pilav again in 3-4 years pilav made me laugh really hard in some of his older vids, and his stream where he got his new mod was funny aswell, his shtick worked. however this aint acceptable. i think when he has time to edit his shit he gets the worst stuff outta the way but something like this was bound to happen with him
Pilav is just a scumbag, happens when u grow up without a father showing u how to treat woman. Im not making fun of pilavs father dying early, im just sadly speaking from experience.
THINK... to explicitly demeanor to any person in the guild is unacceptable, especially on stream. What if he said something about gay people....or the color of their skin???? It's unacceptable in the workplace, and you get fired for this, but what does he say about anna personal parts of her body is way over the line it makes the guild look bad and the people he plays with
Brushing it off, not saying anything is exactly not to do. Enjoy guzu but being passive about harassment saying “that’s just how they are” isn’t valid for it to occur. Yes that’s how they are, harassing others, and that’s wrong . I’m sure if it was said about his finance, he wouldn’t be ok with it. Sad when people that won’t stand up to this stuff fully
The best part is seeing Tyler1's face with the burdens of being the guild leader.
He handled it like a good man.
I wasn't a big fan of Tyler, but the way he swiftly dealt with Sequisha and Pilav is +2 in my eyes.
It's a look of discust.
Nah the best part is actually standing up to a creep.
Simp1
Pilav defending himself sounds like a child in school trying to lie to avoid getting in trouble
I genuinely think it’s the first time in a long time he has gotten serious consequences for his behavior. I feel bad for him and wish him luck in his personal life and growth.
@@user-fg3fv9hl3b He definitely has a lot of growing up to do. It's like his brain stopped developing half way through puberty.
and sequisha sounds like a corporate embezzler trying to weasel his way out of it with words
probably get that way when you've been playing a game for 15 years and your not even competitive in it.
@@user-fg3fv9hl3b serious consequences getting kicked out of a wow guild ? man he will never recover from this
Pilav is the kind of guy you don't kick from the call, but you also don't tell when your friends group is moving to a different Discord.
I guess the question is, do you really think you are missed?
People will say Pilav memes sexually with the boys all the time but he is always with the boys on discord while it happens. Never the girls he memes on. They're not friends
i mean yeah, that is a valid point, the other point is that it hugely depends on how well you know someone, with my friends we also throw insults at each other and no one gives a damn because we know each other and we know that it IS a joke, however with someone you barely know that doesnt work as well, especially when the person isnt actually present to be in on the joke
Pilav is 1000% gay from his mannerisms, but in Serbia is a backwater and you have to keep that hidden there
@@vhaelen326 Let's say you make a certain joke towards your best friend that also is insulting to other people.
Just because your friend knows it's a joke, does NOT mean the other people implicated will.
This is known as harassment, in the workplace.
@@vhaelen326 you made no other point. Your just repeating exactly what Andersalk is talking about. Jesus man
I have to give Tyler credit for addressing it and pushing back on the "its not that bad" comment. People can do what they want on their own time but now theres this community of people linked together through hardcore WoW and certain expectations of conduct (on a pretty basic level imo, Tyler even said he didnt care about shit talk, banter, insults but this crossed a line) are being upheld. Kinda sad that it sounds like this is the first time anything is even being done about how some of these streamers talk about the women in the community. And its just a gkick from the guild, not like he cant keep streaming and acting how he wants, he just cant do it while he's involved with OnlyFangs.
True but the gKick is a bit bigger than that, cuz he loses the access to the others helping him create content naturally and unnaturally as well as plus he loses the access to their audience.
Well, lots of people including me knew this was gonna happen. His persona didn't quite match with the onlyfangs energy. It is what it is, people split ways, sucks for himz he didn't get the right idea of the vibe, Tate stuff not for wow.
@@lizzyetj yea and he deserves it. You don't have to feel sorry for someone who can't behave. The audience of normal streamers doesn't like Pilav anyways and nobody will flock to his stream. People are only disgusted by his behaviour.
@@Faude18 Pilav will lose the mainstream audience but will gain a core incel audience in exchange. He knew what he was doing.
@@chc2650 he cultivated that audience a long time ago and he has no mainstream audience. WoW is niche, being a 2balkan4anyone-streamer is super niche.
the word youre looking for Guzu is Decorum. Pilav has no Decorum
Yea he has no class
Watching the end of your vid when annie talks about it really hit different. She looks dejected, like she can't do anything about it, and she doesn't want to bring it up, because people might get upset at her for "making it a big deal", so she's just taking it...
Ye, Tyler1 made the right decision. Even If Annie was honest to god not bothered whatsoever, I can see it bother abunch of other female streamers, and it definetly affects the mood whether to keep playing with onlyfangs and to keep streaming World of Warcraft, because you always do the calculations in the back of your head "is this still worth it?".
And yes, those comments will affect that calculation.
She cares 100% she said it her self nobody has spoken up about the bullying she's just not that vulnerable into letting it bother her
It’s definitely hurting her, we have so many women these days who have no choice but to develop thick skin because guys can’t grow up. And I’m speaking as a conservative who used to be more anti-feminism. IMO once your brain finishes developing at 27 and you have enough experience with girls to understand their perspective etc. and you are willing to be honest and drop stubborn unhealthy views, you really don’t find this stuff fun, and only see it as harmful and encouraging thousands of young boys to continue cultivating a sexist mind. Sorry for those who disagree, maybe give it more time to understand.
annie said she never had an issue with pilav, disgusting to see people like you who try to turn this around on pilav and it was annie that had an issue with him. this was always on pilav's chat and how 1-2 % of his chat is super degen and chat hop to spread hate. ur a toxic human who is white knightig so damn hard its sad. get a life
Would you say the same if the genders were reversed?
@@AkiRa22084 yes. Don't go after a person's immutable characteristics, it's not cool. Any person.
she cares about those 7k subs she got that day from drama so she did not care about him calling her ugly she cared more about people coming in to her chat and spreading stupid stuff and that is it , she got so many subs so it dos not matter plus Pilav got today 8k vives his peak viewership he is around 1k to 2k views so its a win win for both of them
This whole pilav situation is an amazing way to tell who is mentally or physically still 14 years old lol. If you don’t think what Pilav said was bad then you’re still stuck in middle school
100000% - the chatter saying "you people are too soft" is clearly an emotionally stunted, immature child. This "edge is cool" crowd seems to be getting physically older, and we're seeing them everywhere (politics, ffs), but mentally they're trapped in childish, neanderthal brains...
I always say this. The majority of people watching or commenting on these streamers videos seriously type exactly like a 12 year old. They all use the same words and insults, no originality.
If he were to be asked about her and reply she's not his type, that would be enough, but he just took it to a level that no one even wants to see, even when I was a teen I would be taken aback by that statement.
cope and seethe
Imagine being controlled by words.
"I even said 'Sorry, you're beautiful'" Damn that flippant response says a lot, what a scumbag haha
scummiest way to land
Best part is he's said "I shouldn't have said that but I meant it, like I mean it stil but yeahl" about 20 times while he waited on Tyler in the call and after he got kicked, yet he claims that he didn't mean it while talking to Tyler and that he said he's sorry and that it was a joke. Lol
i mean does this count as sexual harrassment at the workplace for u guys? the g kick was justified imo, everyone who says otherwhise should really think twice about how to talk to coworkers im srs
If you think otherwise you probably haven't been in a workplace
If this situation got ignored, it would have only escalated. Tyler made the right call.
Opposite I think. People reacting to it and posting the clip over dozens of times to thier audience only brings more and more light on it.
@plokoon100 i get what u mean, but at the end of the day, the whole guild is a content guild, so this would've happened anyways with other reactions and other streamers opinions
According to Soda he had talked to Pilav and gave warnings multiple times already and a lot of people were uncomfortable with him being in the guild from the beginning. Was only a matter of time til something happened from his remarks.
@@plokoon100it will have a surge right now, yes. But in the long run, it’s good for the community and for these streamers in general, as Tyler just showed the audience to all their streamers collectively, that this behaviour is not okay.
It's ridiculous to think that Annie doesn't care. She cares, but she is resigned to the fact that nobody will do anything about it, so she will try to ignore it to protect her feelings.
So glad he got kicked. So tired of this permanently online toxic trash of a community thinking this is pkay.
So glad he got kicked. So tired of this permanently online toxic community thinking talking like this is normal.
It's so sad to me that she specifically mentioned Savix as one of the male streamers she feels like doesn't care and well... she was right because he added a clip of her saying that at the end of his video about the situation without acknowledging it - the same video in which he said he's gonna keep being friends and making content with Pilav :/
"nobody will do anything about it" Do what? Who's responsibilty is how Pilav behaves?
I watched her stream and she spent so much time saying she didn't mind but it felt like she was saying it because she didn't want to be harassed by his viewers. She kept saying she has noting to do with this and didn’t want to be harassed. She can't even feel annoyed by what he says without his viewers attacking her.
100% gkick, but Pirate lying about what Pilav did in a dungeon while knighting for Annie was weird.
What's weird about that? He's a lib, they do that.
@@abrvalg321 way to make stuff political instead of basing something on character. Really good stuff, keep it up! /s
@@LeLuncher i mean is he wrong tho :P
@@LeLuncher Ah, yes, I forgot that we can't notice patterns any more.
I knew T1 only from some LoL drama and that he played "Draven only" - thanks to OnlyFangs I've learned his lore and gotta say... this guy is really built different. Incredible human being, not even joking here - and a really good dude despite his macho persona
I think some of the poor understand of why its inappropriate comments has to do with being edgy was understood to be an opt-in interaction not an opt-out. Further muddled by it being online and each streamer really having their own brand. From the point-of-view of an edgy streamer viewer its an on-brand comment but its jarringly inappropriate for the more general streamer target audience.
Good job Guzu, proud of you for sticking to your values and acknowledging the negative opinions with grace.
Crazy that so many in even Guzu's chat were defending Pilav. No one is simping for Annie, no one is soft, Pilav just did something stupid and he had to face the consequences for it.
i thought t1 would be trolling as gm but dude is actually taking the responsibility seriously
Any streamer that shows signs of letting the Chat control what they say is a liability. Gotta always be in control of the chat.
no. not at all. that is twitch's job. not the streamer.
@OP well, the mods. Streamer doesn't have time to censor the chat. Mods should filter it before he sees it.
Yeah it's an extremely weak excuse. Going to extremes imagine someone saying "I didn't mean to say a slur, chat tricked me!" It makes you look incompetent at best, malicious at worst.
@@ThiccOleCat Do competent people have to resort to streaming for a living?
@@l337pwnage Don't know, I didn't personally check the streamer to see if they had to "resort to" it after trying out several other things in order to be ready for your strawman.
The sheer amount of people saying it's not a big deal/t1 is wrong here/it's not that serious don't seem to be able to empathize with what it's like on the other side. I liked alot of Pilav's content, he's very funny sometimes. The issue is that when you normalize reducing women to their attractiveness or their ladyparts, that normalizes the objectification of them and treats them like they're not really people. It's gross.
he is NOT funny, you must be 12 then. hes just CRINGE and TOXIC.
The problem isn't the cringe streamer. The problem is the cringe streamer's army of sycophants who will likely go on to harass the people commented on. Just don't make sexual comments about any other streamer.
That’s exactly it. Therefore he needs to filter what he says, way too many troll 12 year olds online.
I mean, you cultivate a community by how you behave on stream. He doesn't have an "army of sycophants" on accident.
Cultivate your community.
If you just want to "become big", then you clearly put next to no effort into trying to moderate or cultivate that community, because everybody's let in.
It's not his fault, but he still holds partial responsibility. And how you act and behave influences others (obviously).
You are not soft Guzu. Annie probably doesn't want to have anything to do with it. Sometimes it's better to know you guys have her back but not throw gas on the situation solely because it was about her. Who wants to be with that many people and everything is related to sex. It's a group of like minded individuals there for a professional situation that revolves around this content. The article wouldn't be on Rolling Stone if it wasn't. So to all the comments about being sensitive put it in that perspective.
So glad Pilav is gone. Was disappointed to see Savix being buddy buddy with him.
are you 12 years old?
@@rollermixmax no I'm an adult with a wife and beautiful daughters who can recognize a racist misogynist when I see one. Not complicated.
@@rollermixmaxAre you?
Same
Man don’t put it on savix. He wasn’t in huge contact with pilav and he said it’s correct to kick him.
Besides that let him befriend whoever he wants to
the answer to "People are too sensitive" - well, if you're deliberately poking at things that bother people, is it their fault that you deliberately poked them? I don't think so. Go have a circle with other guys who think they're tough and stop trying to interact with people who call you out on your stupid behavior. Any person in the world if they thought about it could figure out something that would make them blow up if some jerk started going on about it online, it's called being human and having things you care about. It might be your mother or your grandmother or your puppy dog. But oh no ha ha let's crap all over your favorite thing and act surprised that people don't want to be with you.
Pilav is garbage. You could see this outcome coming a mile away when he was invited to guild. We add guys like Pilav to OF but not Mitch. Weird.
Why didn’t they invite Mitch?
Because mizkif and his beef
Mitch and miz have beef? What did I miss lol
They did coke and got into an argument resulting in miz punching Mitch out
@@Shakk404 apparently they had a literal fist fight
Finally Pilav get called for his garbage behavior. Can't believe there are people that defend him.
lol, but anon internet people stirring drama is fine? 🤣
I just want to know who was sharing clips.
@@l337pwnage why does it matter? the words were said. Stop moving goalposts man. Some of you need education desperately.
@@Valvad0ss Just pointing out that people are getting played. I guess if that floats your boat, have fun.
Rofl all these streamers are snowflakes 😂😂😂
@@lucianocortes8636 Behind the scenes, probably not so much, but they are employees, they have to put on a show.
Guzu almost broke character a bit when he laughed at one of Pilav's statements, but then he put his "serious" face back on, lol.
The problem with this and even a lot of banter, is viewers then think its ok to say the same things. Annie can take it from Pilav, because she knows the deal with him, especially from the last time they had drama a few years back. What she can't handle is her chat being blown up by Pilav viewers then taunting her with the same crap. The Snowymixy comment was just him saying what a viewer said to him IRL. That's the problem though, if you foster a community of people acting the same way, then you shouldn't be surprised that your community is toxic. That sort of 'joke' pulls in the folk that find edgy humour funny. He's been really kind of toxic in a lot of the other ways too. It was definitely a cumulation of things and i think it was actually Makaila that raised this final clip with T1 giving a girls perspective.
The most surprising thing about all the recent dramas is how T1 has responded. I've always just thought of him as just another toxic league streamer, but, he has shown how much he's grown. He's had some really good takes.
I should add, I like Pilav but streaming should be seen as a job. There's a lot of money involved these days and I don't know any workplace that would put up with this kind of schtick. I honestly believed he was going to listen to Savix and tone it down but that didn't last long. Within the first few hours of OnlyFangs he was talking quite poorly about PalmBee. I know he was joking, but, he didn't know her that well at that point and his community made that whole thing worse.
@@DW-lx9wt is he specifically focusing on women with his insults? Just curious, sort of feels like it.
@@DW-lx9wt this is toned down. this is toned down to a insane degree.
you guys have bad emotional radars. tyler has always been a good guy deep down.
@@dabillya6845 yeah that might be, i might be taking it out on t1 since i hate him with all my being after the inting and flaming he did back in the day on lol. i dont think he has changed and are still the biggest human trash there is. but that should not have an effect on this situatiion. so might be me over criticising him unfairly.
If onlyfangs was a workplace, he would be fired
100%
its sad that she is gonna get the backlash on this because his community will think she was the reason he got gkicked. And that is why she says "its okay, it doesn't bother me) so she doesn't get harassed, anyone with a brain knows she's not okay with it.
If you're a grown adult, its your own job to not let words hurt you. They're literally just words and someone's opinion, it doesn't affect you unless you let it affect you.
Pilav hasn't changed in years. I stopped watching his YT years ago because of his personality, thought he might have changed but I guess not. Boys gotta grow up
Pilav is the oldest 14yo edgy teenager in the world
I first met Pilav about 10 years ago in a random battleground on then retail. He claimed he was a famous streamer, then proceeded to not actively participate properly (essentially AFKing) in said BG, and just sat there spamming racist, sexist and childish gibberish which was poorly written and barely legible in the BG chat on cooldown. I legitimately thought it was a sweaty 12 year old, needless to say it didn't take long for him to be ignored by probably most of the BG. Looks like 10 years later nothing has changed, I'm genuinely confused why anyone finds this attitude entertaining to watch on a steam, but each to their own.
people who say they do "edgy" content are just avoiding accountability for the fact that they are a bully, let's call a spade a spade
It must be a young guy thing when you and the chat think Annie was "fine with it", she clearly wasn't. She's just trying to get through, look at her eyes.
He was being sarcastic, he was calling out his chat that was calling it not a big deal and saying she doesn’t actually care. He clarifies that around the 19ish minute mark about a minute or two later.
Sadly women have no choice but to endure it because, as she said, nobody would do anything about it. It’s more real than people anti-feminist realize.
Yeah wth how could anyone listen to her and translate it as "She's fine" because she's been dealing with sexual comments for years and has learned to ignore them because there was nothing else to do. Really disappointed in so many in his chat blowing this and all the other shit Pilaf has said off.
Why she cares is she has to deal with her chat. Savix pointed out the same thing. If this was behind the scenes private stuff, wouldn't be a big deal, but you get the public involved and it's much more stressful.
Pilav understands the concept of a public and private persona, but he has a hard time separating them. Actually, ask any modern comedian the problems of doing ANY jokes in the last 10 years. Even left wing comedians that have been in the biz decades basically stopping doing certain shows and some just, basically, "retired" because of cancel culture.
I told you months ago to distance yourself from Pilav 😂 mentally he's a 13 year old boy
The thing is, it's not hard to not be a douche online. I don't know what it is about many streamers these days and maybe it brings them views but saying stuff like this isn't cool. Also, props to Tyler1 who I have come to respect more watching him play WoW with OnlyFangs. I used to think he was just a toxic roid league player but playing WoW with OnlyFangs has actually brought more of his real personality out.
Also, tyler has a daughter, as i do. He (same as me) probably found this shit bad before, but it hits on a whole different level if you imagine ANYONE talking about your own daughter in that way. Made the right call 100%
Pilav Anytime woman enters chat - “are you woman?!? 😮😮😮 are you attractive?!? “
Its easy for chatters to say people are too sensitive when you're an anonymous nobody who has absolutely nobody caring about what you do.
I really hate the "it's not that bad/it's just a joke" and "some chat message baited me to say it" thing. The whole it's just a joke thing is like those prank channels doing fucked up shit on random people and then called it a prank, as if they won't get into any trouble after saying the line.
Blaming on chat also doesn't make sense at all. While yeah that chat message might annoyed him and made him to respond, but I don't think that viewer hijacked his brain and made him say all those stuff by sending a chat message. What he said is still thought by his brain and spoken from his mouth, nothing gonna changed that.
I don't mind pliav sayting those edgy jokes personally but he should only make those joke around people that are comfortable with his joke and vibe with him. I like making edgy jokes from time to time but as a person with basic social skills after talking to people irl(really hard i know), I know when you should or shouldn't say it and where's the limit according to the group of people. It's really not a hard thing to do but he just keep making those jokes that clearly only he and his viewers are laughing at while not considering the consequences of them.
At the end of the day, onlyfangs is clearly not his vibe and he should just join a guild/play with people that match his edgy personality.
I liked Pilav, he made the first 2 weeks of Onlyfangs really exciting for me, and I liked the dynamics with him and you, Xaryu, Savix and even the dungeons with Tyler1.
But what really threw me off is, when he told these stories of him being in prison for a few years, and now he's back. And a week later I find out that was just a wholecloth lie, to entertain his viewers for engageement, when Xaryu asked him about it during a SM dungeon run (xaryu seemed like he was both curious + worried, if Pilav was in actual trouble).
I believed Pilav. Now I realize it's just normal for him to lie about these things for entertainment.
Joke's on me I guess for believing he was more authentic than that.
"You can't call me bias because I don't agree with your opinion." Brother that's the entire internet now unfortunately.
Doing as a joke as a friend is okay, doing it behind someone's back that isn't your friend is not okay
Tbh I don't agree with Guzu that what Pilav did is bad because they are in a streamer guild. If anything at least in a streamer guild it's easier to get them face consequences, prove what they did and so on. It's common for women to deal with those things in normal non streamer communities and it sucks.
Muccchhhhhhhh lovvvvvvvvveee to GuzuTV and everyone here!~!~!~!
It's disgusting how people are willfully misinterpreting what Annie says. She says it's fine etc purely for the reason that she doesn't want to get harassed for getting Pilav banned. You should watch out for others "especially" when they don't dare stand up for themselves. She feels VERY obviously uncomfortable about this situation. You can tell how dejected she is that all other male streamers keep supporting him, she accepts it out of necessity, to protect herself.
He needs to grow up. Savix does too with how deep he was going for him. Guzu is more balanced.
I like Savix, but he keeps company with some really strange dudes. He needs to develop better judgement of character, or else they will drag him down with them
@@jamesg9468 is it possible that maybe you and some others here might just not see that Savix is a good dude encouraging Pilav to be healthier and happier by being his friend? I used to have a more black and white view like that but these days I feel like there’s nothing wrong with what Savix is doing. He did the right thing.
Or you need to grow up for assuming your opinion is the correct one and can’t be any other way when you are holding a negative view. Read previous comment. People who get it will, those who don’t , well that stinks for them lol.
Or you need to grow up for assuming your opinion is the correct one and can’t be any other way when you are holding a negative view. Read previous comment. People who get it will, those who don’t , well that stinks for them lol.
@@user-fg3fv9hl3b Are you okay? You're having a dialogue with yourself there
Nothing if value was lost
like your spelling
this has nothing to do with sensitivity
Yup, at a certain point we can’t blame people being too sensitive, too many folk think that not filtering what they say is a good and proud thing to do, when all it shows is impulsivity and a lack of social awareness.
It seems like Pilav just lacks empathy, he can't see things from others perspective.
No, he's just a manchild. Guy is like 45 and he's just got his first GF (apparently)
@jamesg9468 yeah he is a manchild. But he also obviously lacks the ability to be able to emphatize with the people he is harassing.
Pilav was just disgusting over yeeeaaars....it was about time
but he didn't stream. It was mostly youtube videos. And when its in a video, most people see it as a comedy bit. On a stream, people expect some authenticy (mostly cuz its hard to keep a character going for 10+ hours for the whole stream), so it hits different.
Can tell that you are also hella uncomfortable about talking about stuff like this. Handled it like a champ tho!
People thinking that Annie was saying PIlav's actions were OK by her response shows they have no social skills or are just gross. She's saying she would be SURPRISED if Tyler banned him because so many men are treating women like this and think it's ok, which is gross. She clearly has been bothered by it so long but gave up as no one would take action. It's actually disgusting it took this long. Best call by Tyler, keep it up big little man
Max I've managed to watch Pilav has been roughly 10 seconds I'm so glad it will be even easier to avoid his content from now on
Anthony joselnik said it well, the problem is not how edgy the joke is, its that it just wasnt really funny and it was a bit too focused on specific people
Really? Most people find it quite offensive and for good reason, but I’d like to think otherwise
Dude does the Schrodinger's asshole thing. Eventually, after saying "it's just a joke!' so many times, people will just treat you like an asshole.
Saying something is not toxic. Constantly saying something to hurt someone is toxic and i hate the word toxic.
The issue IS Pilav, but I'm sure it is "easy enough" to ignore him (don't group with him or be in call with him). The bigger problem is I would almost guarantee his army of 10 year olds constantly went into these people's chats and parroted anything he said and that will just wear down on you over time and require so much additional moderation for something not your fault (being born a woman).
Hardcore has a better community, it’s one of the reasons I love this game mode. However WoW in general is literally known for having a toxic community full of trolls. When your comments are too much for even the wow trolls I don’t think there is any “soft” or “snowflake” about it.
T1 made the right call here, they don’t need that crap.
Whatever viewer was defending his actions is delusional. Annie said that obviously the stuff was accepted, so that's why she didnt make a deal about it. Crazy take from your viewer
This is like any other guild drama, if this stuff was said in guild chat.. They would of been kicked a while ago in most guilds. Bad mouthing other guildies never goes down well.
To me there's ways to do edgy humour that's super funny but his kinda edgy humour is just so lazy that it feels more like someone saying they're views rather than crafting a joke.
I dont think pilav is a bad guy or wants to cause drama for people, I just think hes not cut out for being a streamer. A big part of that is being careful what you say and how you are perceived and he doesnt seem to have the ability to tone it down. I dont think the question "how would they feel" or "how does this make me come across to other people" have ever entered his mind.
Like his humour or not, I dont think it's fair to say hes a bad person.
I think the kick was a bit strong, but I understand it.
The "you guys are too soft" and "there is nothing here" need to understand that in polite society this doesn't fly. Its about respect. I understand talking about this kind of shit seems fine because he says it all the time but outside of the incel community its disqualifying conduct. He said she would have an orgasm just looking at him and people are like "whats the big deal?".
Spoiler alert - its a big fucking deal. If you don't think its a big deal, understand why you're objectively wrong and absorb the life advise.
We don't live in polite society, we live in dystopian society.
@@someguy9970you might wanna try traveling a bit, because then you will learn that you are mistaken. Politeness is the majority factor.
@@Timmahh85
You are wrong lmao. Most of the world thinks like Pilav. “Polite society” doesn’t condone what you clowns do.
Pilav is that kind of guy nobody wants as a reallifefriend. He has this Basic aggressiveness and gets mad instant and screams and beeing totally offensive.. It might be that culture there, but in a normal society, this attitude and behavor nobody likes and want.
I'm disappointed at reaction tubers. This should just have been dealt with off stream. Annie does not deserve this shit.
Edit: got to the point where you mentioned the sarcasm. Still, you know how kids are online these days and your sarcasm was clearly not obvious enough..
Holy shit Guzu when you said something like «I guess you’re right chat, she doesn’t care at all» after watching her reaction to the Pilav situation, I can’t tell if you’re being honest or sarcastic. If you are actually not seeing that this is a huge problem that has been going on for years as she states with a resigned and sad tone, then I just lost a lot of respect for you. She is CLEARLY not OK with it, and sounds utterly disappointed that people are still supporting Pilav to the extent that they are. I hope you were being sarcastic, but even then, that’s not supportive at all. «I guess it’s okay if I’m… the target this time…» means she has given up hope that others actually care. Fuck me dude…
Can't believe how many guzu chatters wanted to white knight for this disrespectful dude. Ironic accusing others of that simply for having basic respect meanwhile they wanna take a bullet for the cringe man.
Pilav has zero self awareness, such a shame because he can be very funny without this ott edgy shit xD
He’s plenty aware he just dosent care lol
I think that Pilavs comments would be "okay",only if Annie would be also offensive and combative. But it seems she took it just passively and tried not to get more attention, so he should apologize. You don't attack people that can't defend themselves male or female.
I still enjoyed some of his videos.
Any chatter saying hes simping needs to step outside and reevaluate their life
Some pilav vids are straight up hillarious, others unwatchable. His excuse of "chat made me do it" has to be his most hillarious take 🤣🤣
Pilav is a weirdo. Straight up only for the kids
if everywhere she goes there is drama at what point you consider that she is the problem? just askin
If pilav said this about a male onlyfangs member, there wouldve been no drama. A womans looks are insulted and the result is exile. Pathetic.
He didn’t get gkicked only for insulting a woman’s looks but ok. And he didn’t get exiled, he got kicked from a content guild. But yea continue being a professional victim when you’re not even involved
he was kicked for a lot of reasons, but talking about Annie having "giant p**sy" and making palmbee climax was the last straw for Tyler. He was warned about making sexual comments by Soda, and as a streamer you gotta know that if you give the chat an inch they'll take it too far. Everyone defending pilav are coping.
Also most guys like Pilav and want to be his friend, but he creeps out almost every girl he interacts with.
must be hard going into highschool soon huh buddy
Thing was annie didnt report it but yhis wasnt even the first report pilav have, soda already confirmed that he had numerous of reports, he even opens up peoples stream when theyre bantering and shit talking and viewers chat hop. Like i get the edgy content love pilav and savix together but youre in a guild with other streamers and people you dont evene know and dont even know you, edgy jokes wont fly, since not everyone will understand your humor
"I've said way worse than that" just proves the point
imo Pops did have cancer and he cured it when he got that guy killed. What a gross thing to say over a video game.
He plays a character and there's alot of streamers that are low key white knights at heart. I don't think it was bad what he said alittle chuckle and move on honestly. Too many streamers got caught up in the MeToo movement and are afraid to joke about anything when it comes to women. NMP is doing life right.
NMP only banters with his female friends, and he says it to their face so they can banter back. Pilav was showing off to his edgelords in chat, and is saying this behind their back essentially. Tyler said Pilav already had a lot of strikes, but talking about Annie's p^^sy and making palmbee climax was the last straw for Tyler.
tyler insults people all the time and no one cares. i would say just g kick him and his bad vibes instead. But everyone is scared to say anything to him. They could lose viewer. Ridiculous.
Never liked pilav, so whatever. The reaction to it was equally as cringe, basically treating Annie like a child. Oh no, gotta protect her, she precious and fragile, poor child. Quite demeaning.
She'll also get hate with it being openly shown like that, good job.
Pilav is like dropping a book on the floor in a room filled with cats.
What you walk by, you condone/accept - Pilav’s comments were misogynistic and toxic and every time he appears on any of the streamers videos I watch I have problems with something he says and usually end up not watching.
Soda first watching pilavs video about joining. Soda said he was friends with GGX. That's all I needed to know he shouldn't be in the guild.
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I øvrigt en helt anden ting! Jeg fyldte 30 år sidste sommer, det er slet ikke noget at lade sig skræmme over! Faktisk er der rigtig meget der pludselig bliver meget nemmere! - Lige bortset fra at sove mere end 7 timer uden at stå op for at tisse 😅
You can tell that one chatter has less then zero social skills.
WoW the game that makes grown adults act like teenagers since 2004. There’s always gotta be an edgelord and a hypersensitive person in every guild and it just causes drama every time. I don’t do well with people which is why I never say anything and jam music when I’m playing
people are way overreacting to this. is it just because he said it on stream? or are people pretending this isn't normal conversation between friends? you telling me you've never called someone ugly before? ISNANE cope.
Nah, he was talking about Annie having "giant p**sy" and making palmbee climax. He was warned about making sexual comments, and as a streamer you gotta know that if you give the chat an inch they'll take it too far. Everyone defending pilav are coping.
Well - See ya Pilav again in 3-4 years
pilav made me laugh really hard in some of his older vids, and his stream where he got his new mod was funny aswell, his shtick worked. however this aint acceptable. i think when he has time to edit his shit he gets the worst stuff outta the way but something like this was bound to happen with him
T1 strong leader
T1 is now S1
this popcorn good, tho i do remember when streamers just played games
Pilav is just a scumbag, happens when u grow up without a father showing u how to treat woman. Im not making fun of pilavs father dying early, im just sadly speaking from experience.
Streamer trying to take the moral high ground over another streamer is cringe and always comes back on the ones making content out of it
deserved.
F around and find out. Eventually having the big, edgy mouth catches up with you.
Which streamer is it about?
Pilav
It's time to remove guzu from recommendations. It's obviously not allowed against a certain group and definitely allowed again other groups.
lol 12 yrs old or 30 manchild hmmmm
@@dabillya6845 americanized lib?
THINK... to explicitly demeanor to any person in the guild is unacceptable, especially on stream. What if he said something about gay people....or the color of their skin???? It's unacceptable in the workplace, and you get fired for this, but what does he say about anna personal parts of her body is way over the line it makes the guild look bad and the people he plays with
Would you say the same if the genders were reversed?
Yes i would because it still would make live steaming strange @AkiRa22084
"Making content out of someone else expanse is not cool" said the react handy xD
Oohhh so twitch is where high school drama bs went after high school. I don't miss it.
Being edgy as "schtick" is just an excuse to exert odd uncontrollable behavior
Yup, the more my fellow men realize that being really offensive and sexually insulting women isn’t funny the better.
Brushing it off, not saying anything is exactly not to do. Enjoy guzu but being passive about harassment saying “that’s just how they are” isn’t valid for it to occur. Yes that’s how they are, harassing others, and that’s wrong . I’m sure if it was said about his finance, he wouldn’t be ok with it. Sad when people that won’t stand up to this stuff fully