I am not one to comment much but you keep making me comment with these videos. You've triggered a pet peeve of mine with this one. I did my master's thesis on the subject of generations. I read an ungodly amount of research papers on the subject. The research that I proposed was to perform a set of questions every 15 years to the same individuals, with the group having equal representation from each living generation. The theory being that while differences were evident between the "generations", these could more broadly be attributed to the current stage in life that the individual was in. i.e. a Boomer at 18 behaved a lot more like a millennial at 18 than a Boomer at 65. On this subject I've used another analogy that somewhat aligns with your perspective-of-the-camera analogy. Siblings have the same genetic ingredients poured into them upon conception and some are raised in the same household with the same parents, yet most end up with very distinct personalities and perspectives. This is an over simplification, but the "control group" for the first child is mom and dad. The experiential group for the second child is mom and dad plus child#1. That 3rd influence on child#2 is huge and the dynamics between those 4 individuals alone are enough to shape each sibling into a different person. Add to this things like gender, physical traits, individual experiences outside the household and you end up with siblings that are nothing alike. To try and say that the opposite of that happens to a group of people that are born within a 20 year window is pretty crazy. I believe that there are shared experiences that do shape these cohorts to an extent, but also believe that we attribute too many of the differences to these events and not enough to the fact that we are simply at a different stage in life. It's hard to make a young person understand because they do not have the insight but I've talked to older generations about their negative perceptions. Told them to put aside the cloud of nostalgia and to try to remember that they were just as stupid at 18, sans the technology. All that being said, younger people suck.
@@kateapple1 my pet peeve is the subject of generations, specifically that I believe that people attribute many more of the differences between cohorts to the concept of generations, than really apply. The point was to show another angle on what Phil discussed in the video and that said angle resulted in the same conclusion. So, not that he needed it but, my comment was to further prove/support his take on the issue. Now a boring and uncalled-for expansion on my original comment: I didn't really explain the reasoning for my proposed research too well in that first paragraph. Basically, we would survey Boomers, Gen Xers, Millennials, and Gen Z now. 15 years from now we would survey them all again (same individuals), then again 15 years from that. We would then, for example, compare the answers from the Gen Xers on that first survey to the answers for the Millennials from the second one. We would also compare the Millennials' answers from the second survey to their answers from the first one. This in order to see how they changed, and if they changed to better aligned with the Gen Xers' answers from the first survey (which at the time were at the same life stage as the millennials will be on the second survey). This would, in theory, prove or disprove that life stages have to do more with the perceived differences that the concept of generations.
As they were guessing I literally said "probably 38", then the next sentence was "I'm 37". Considering this video is a year old, not too shabby, I'm counting that as a victory
I can imagine it would be distressing, but if you're worried about the ladies I promise they don't care as much as guys think, shave it clean with pride, maintain nice facial hair, be confident and you'll see positive reactions I promise
Phil's a good looking, boyish looking guy. It's really just his grey hair that confuses people...but if Phil's reading this I hope he doesn't lose the grey. Looks good in him. He can put his slippers under my bed anytime 😊
@@PhilEdwardsInc I totally agree. I just discovered your channel and must say amazing content. But seriously you have such a sexy charming boyish but mature look. You're definitely super dreamy.
it's the gray hair and the beard. People dye their hair so much these days that undyed hair just equals people automatically going "50!" lol. I"m 44 and i dye my hair (because i'm vain, i'll admit it, i can't give into the gray just yet) and people guess i'm in my 30s (granted thanks to decent genes, i have a baby face, but not THAT babyface), i'm telling ya it's all in the hair. Some smarter people look at your hands or neck when trying to guess and get a lot closer. But most folks look you dead in the eye and get distracted by the hair. Wild.
Man I almost skipped over the hot take "sponsor" I'm so used to skipping over baked in sponsorships but for some reason I hesitated and I'm glad I did!
Great content. Very courageous of you to post this. I was close on my guess, 39. It shocks me to think I was in college when you were born. Yikes, it's now time I find my walker and Geritol. Seriously, the content about generations was very informative. Yes, it is about what group of people at or near your own age that grow up together experiencing it in a similar manner. As you pointed out, a similar age of people who grew up in another part of the world will have different generational perspectives than one say from the US or Europe. This is an area of study your video has prompted me to delve into further. Thank you!
Haha the HotTake ad 😂 what a fun personal video that you also made really informative! Also want to appreciate your full disclosure about the quote "I Googled recently." It's just a momentary few words, but says a lot about the kind of honesty you aspire to. As someone who also treasures honesty in an age where it is so tempting to seem so smart with the internet at our fingertips - even if the quote is already stored in my memory but is just a little unclear - I can really appreciate that level of awareness and courage 🙌
Yup, being born in Indonesia in 1989 definitely shape how I see and perceive the world around me differently than a great looking 37 year old man with many great video contents. But as opposed to a stone, I can choose to move to a different spot on the river. Learning to try to perceive the world as a rock born in Japan in 2011 or America in 2001. Always love your voice and how you narrate a story or explain an idea!
Phil, as a fellow "vintage" millennial, I can't believe you didn't once make reference to blink-182's What's my age again? in this video. Unless it was for Content-ID reasons. Then I empathise.
I've always thought "generations" should be based on the when and what events that occur in their lifetime, rather than by arbitrary 15 year gaps. Someone entering their teens as the Great Recession occurred is going to have a very different perspective, with how that affects them as they're entering adulthood, on things than someone who experienced various other large events before that, and was older at the time.
As someone born in Virginia in 1981, I believe we are relatively close cohorts. Excellent video about a concept I’ve been trying to explain to my spouse recently. The extension of the river metaphor is such a good one and I appreciate the familiar landscape. Thanks for the content!
I love how you just do more of your day job as a hobby. The content is really good too. I thought it was VOX for quite a while. I hope you make tons of money and can go solo if you decide to
I am such a big fan! I can’t tell you how much I enjoy your videos. I love the subjects you talk about, your story telling, your cinematography, everything! P.s You don’t look a day over 54 😄
I feel this Phil. I'm 42, but look older because of the gray in my beard. Great thoughts in this video. Also, the HotTake commercial is criminally under viewed. It is...
Your videos is really creative and informative even tho the context is about yourself it's not like any cliche vlogs out there! I'm really a fan of you guys from Vox, I'm aspiring to be a journalist like you guys.
Man I feel you on this one. I have never looked my actual age. I have always been thought of as being older than I am. In my freshman year of HS I had older classes asking me to purchase cigarettes for them. I was constantly being accused of being a Narc in HS. People thought I was the worst undercover cop and so obviously an adult.
Found your channel recently. I really love the diverse content you cover and the way you come at each of them in a slightly different way than I expect you to. Also, the fake medicine advert was amazing.
It's the grey combined with the fact that you have the beard style of someone in their 50s. Shave the beard or grow a hipster beard and I bet people start guessing closer to your actual age. (Not an actual recommendation.)
Some people just look older than their age. The actor Jon Hamm said in an interview he could never get "youth" parts -- ever -- because he "always has looked like a 40-year-old man". My husband kept being asked (into his early 40s!!) where he was enrolled in college. Our 35 year old son has inherited his dad's youthful look as well. I could tell you were MUCH younger than 50 because of your neck being smooth, but that part of you was covered by your sign in your queries to other people. IMO and TBH, it's your mustache that ages you, but you be you. You do good work, and I'm an enthusiastic subscriber of all your stuff.
Phil, don't worry, it's not 'grey' in your hair. I like to refer to mine as 'metallic blonde'! Great filmmaking, btw. I really like what you are doing. Keep it up!
I just happened upon your individual channel after following you on Vox for a while. I started watching this video thinking you were in your mid-late 30s. I'm 35 and on the opposite side of the coin. Genetics can be weird & fascinating. As to your other premise, I think it would be theoretically fascinating to see a conversation between Strausse, Howe, & Nassim Taleb.
I was going to guess older until I saw the cutty sark and knew you were comfortably within a few years of me. I was right but I think my methodology was flawed.
So I blindly guessed 38, but I feel I have a bit of an unfair advantage being SLIGHTLY older. Fun fact; I googled myself once before a job interview and found someone had made a Wikipedia entry about me. Maybe it is my age but I found that weirdly disturbing. Conversely it does help in providing citation. :)
The fourth turning is a new version of this book. It's strange, in the 90's they predicted that in 2008 we would go into a crisis that wouldn't resolve until 2028.. the guys who wrote it were economists, not sociologists. The problem is that i know as a human this argument is super convincing because pattern recognition is our way of life.. but it's nice to hear a counterpoint
Everyone up to sophomores in college were BORN after 9/11. We have never been alive when America was not at war in the Middle East. I think these types of experiences contribute far more to a generational identity than anything else. At the same time, I have friends who’ve probably never thought about that and couldn’t care less so we aren’t going to be very similar.
Came across this video by pressing the ‘oldest’ tab on your videos list… And then I pressed ‘newest’ and I swear to God you aged like 10 years in the span of three lol
The Strauss-Howe theory only holds up if very broad brushstrokes are applied. I read Generations about 10 years ago and bought into it up until the book reached the 20th century, the history of which I'm very familiar with. People and history are far more nuanced than they would have you believe. Also, I find it interesting that both Strauss and Howe are Boomers, the generation that seems to be the most invested in talking about the uniqueness of generations (especially their own).
Maybe one of my favorite videos of yours so far (and I've been faithfully catching up on the back-catalogue for a while). Unrelated: Would you ever give a tour of your gear wall? The pegboards are such a brilliant idea!
Thanks! Haha, it is a pretty darn barren wall though it is useful! I mainly hang my backpack up there as some random junk. Then I sit on my couch, next to all my gear, and wish I weren't too lazy to hang it up.
I do think generations are like seasons if you ignore the whole repeating part. The days in a season are usually similar but they can have outliers, like 78 in winter or a snow storm in the spring. This is just like how while people in a generation were raised in similar conditions they are each different. I also like the part were seasons start to blend together near the start and the end. You can have a cold fall day or a hot winter day.
I hope it makes you feel better that 37 was my first guess! Great video as always, I think you could also do a video on the crazy Italian game show where they literally just guessed random people's ages for a cash prize, I can see you finding some great lessons there about how we age...or something about society, I'm sure you'll figure it out 😉 I always found it fascinating how thoss being guessed on would progressively get older as it gets way harder to guess after a certain age...
I'm 33 and I swear you are a relative to this local pro skateboarder around here in the PNW. "David Gravette." He rides for Creature skateboards. ~i love your videos man!
So glad I came across your channel. Love your videos on vox, and it’s great to see your personal approach using the same lens. I guessed 37, so don’t be disheartened!
Phil this is great, and right on the nose ... but like you said it's very real to be out of touch. ... but I think when people assume your generation they do it based on two things only - your appearance and your character. You look 50 first of all, this is apparent by your fantastic chat roulette experiment, bravo. So that you can change IF you wanted to. Your character probably feels comfortable how you look which is why you do look the way you are. But that too can be changed. You can effectively act younger. You can stay current, be interested in whats trending on tiktok and yes, listen to Post Malone. I think we don't constantly stay current because it's not just hard, but unnatural. We want to be part of our birth cohort group, but, you can legitimately choose which cohorts you want. I have younger and older friends that I associate with, on a real and profound level. I think it's a scale you choose, not one that you are born into and are locked into. Most dont choose, but it is possible. Except for the Post Malone. That's ... extra.
@@PhilEdwardsInc Sorry Phil I wrote this while I was drunk ... and I got drunk by soaking tampons in Fireball. Gotta run. (does Fortnite dance as he fades into the distance...)
Knowing your style, the "In which our hero..." bit is probably gonna be 100% accurate. Whoever guessed under 36 is just... why? Im leaning towards early to mid 40's. Perhaps Ill be pleasently surprised but youve got too much salt to make me guess any younger. Regardless, even in your most recent videos youre looking sharp! Edit: I wanted to say 42 so bad!! 37?!? Honestly if I presented masc Id kill for your look. Seems like youll probably age like a fine wine. Gosh have I mentioned how much I appreciate your approach to subjects. Random satirical medication ad has me fucking reeling, every bit of its so well put together.
I like Adam Conover's theory on generations, which is that they're simply buckets into which marketers place people to simplify the word because marketers aren't as smart as they think they are. I do think bringing media consumption into it is a misstep though. That's nowhere near universal enough and involves a high degree of other factors... like whether your parents are willing to pay for the slightly fancier cable package so you can watch the Disney channel. The tent peg events which make a cohort are things like pandemics, recessions, disasters because they change how everyone in the society is thinking.
As soon as I saw the sign my brain said “37” and I was right. Only because I’m not that much further down the river; a decade (give or take a few years) your junior.
Adam Conover did a presentation about this subject too, and everytime someone talks about generations I link them to that presentation, because it's such a made up concept that sometimes just creates more harm than good.
Yeah, honestly as someone born in the late 90s, I don’t like being grouped in the same “generation” as people born in the early 2000s who I don’t relate to at all.
A young woman once asked me how old I was and I replied “51”. She then said like “Oh my God, you don’t look 51”. So I asked her how old I looked and she said “49”. I responded to her “that’s no difference”.
The lighting in the picture makes some of your beard hair look grey. That is why people are saying 50, bad lighting. My mom turned grey when she was 25, lol.
Watched this just now a second time and I forgot just how great this video is 😂. You’re my favorite YT personality out of the 250+ channels I subscribe to. The moment you drop a video I’m clickin to watch it 😁 Have a wonderful day Phil!
No worries, you do look your age, most people are just bad at guessing ages! My cats scattered when I loudly exclaimed "Hah!" when you revealed that you were 37 at the time of the video, having correctly guessed.
Haha that’s hilarious you noticed. I remember noticing in the edit but don’t have time to be a perfectionist in these (believe me, now I’m realizing I could have fixed it in editing!). It’s my grand Joby tripod, which I wrap around trees, benches, and other miscellany in the field.
I'm still not sure how many years 'a generation' actually is. Is it 10, 15,20? How is this calculated in the first place? Because i.m.o it should be based upon the age where someone produces offspring.
I'm five years older than Phil, and I guessed his age perfectly. It's not as straightforward as "grey hair = old" I'm just as grey as Phil, probably a bit wrinklier, but people are regularly surprised to hear I'm as old as I am.
I am not one to comment much but you keep making me comment with these videos.
You've triggered a pet peeve of mine with this one. I did my master's thesis on the subject of generations. I read an ungodly amount of research papers on the subject. The research that I proposed was to perform a set of questions every 15 years to the same individuals, with the group having equal representation from each living generation.
The theory being that while differences were evident between the "generations", these could more broadly be attributed to the current stage in life that the individual was in. i.e. a Boomer at 18 behaved a lot more like a millennial at 18 than a Boomer at 65.
On this subject I've used another analogy that somewhat aligns with your perspective-of-the-camera analogy. Siblings have the same genetic ingredients poured into them upon conception and some are raised in the same household with the same parents, yet most end up with very distinct personalities and perspectives.
This is an over simplification, but the "control group" for the first child is mom and dad. The experiential group for the second child is mom and dad plus child#1. That 3rd influence on child#2 is huge and the dynamics between those 4 individuals alone are enough to shape each sibling into a different person. Add to this things like gender, physical traits, individual experiences outside the household and you end up with siblings that are nothing alike.
To try and say that the opposite of that happens to a group of people that are born within a 20 year window is pretty crazy. I believe that there are shared experiences that do shape these cohorts to an extent, but also believe that we attribute too many of the differences to these events and not enough to the fact that we are simply at a different stage in life.
It's hard to make a young person understand because they do not have the insight but I've talked to older generations about their negative perceptions. Told them to put aside the cloud of nostalgia and to try to remember that they were just as stupid at 18, sans the technology.
All that being said, younger people suck.
lol very interesting! pinned this comment.
So what was your pet peeve tho-I got through what you said but didn’t get the point
@@kateapple1 my pet peeve is the subject of generations, specifically that I believe that people attribute many more of the differences between cohorts to the concept of generations, than really apply.
The point was to show another angle on what Phil discussed in the video and that said angle resulted in the same conclusion. So, not that he needed it but, my comment was to further prove/support his take on the issue.
Now a boring and uncalled-for expansion on my original comment:
I didn't really explain the reasoning for my proposed research too well in that first paragraph. Basically, we would survey Boomers, Gen Xers, Millennials, and Gen Z now. 15 years from now we would survey them all again (same individuals), then again 15 years from that. We would then, for example, compare the answers from the Gen Xers on that first survey to the answers for the Millennials from the second one. We would also compare the Millennials' answers from the second survey to their answers from the first one. This in order to see how they changed, and if they changed to better aligned with the Gen Xers' answers from the first survey (which at the time were at the same life stage as the millennials will be on the second survey).
This would, in theory, prove or disprove that life stages have to do more with the perceived differences that the concept of generations.
Ok boomer
@@skylerhoffman4662 lol I'm 35. I'm very much a millennial.
As they were guessing I literally said "probably 38", then the next sentence was "I'm 37". Considering this video is a year old, not too shabby, I'm counting that as a victory
Same here! **high 5**
As a 26 year old with my dad’s “hairline”, I FEEL YOUR PAIN
We have to fight these omegle people in shifts to defend youth!
I can imagine it would be distressing, but if you're worried about the ladies I promise they don't care as much as guys think, shave it clean with pride, maintain nice facial hair, be confident and you'll see positive reactions I promise
Bruh same. We need to make a product thatll give us youngins a nice hairline
oh god, same here
Phil's a good looking, boyish looking guy. It's really just his grey hair that confuses people...but if Phil's reading this I hope he doesn't lose the grey. Looks good in him. He can put his slippers under my bed anytime 😊
you are very wise huey
@@PhilEdwardsInc I totally agree. I just discovered your channel and must say amazing content. But seriously you have such a sexy charming boyish but mature look. You're definitely super dreamy.
How did I not think about searching for your personal channel after all of your amazing videos on Vox? Subscribed instantly!
@Nny I'm not a fan of those either, but Vox (to me at least) feels little more researched and less sensationalist.
it's the gray hair and the beard. People dye their hair so much these days that undyed hair just equals people automatically going "50!" lol. I"m 44 and i dye my hair (because i'm vain, i'll admit it, i can't give into the gray just yet) and people guess i'm in my 30s (granted thanks to decent genes, i have a baby face, but not THAT babyface), i'm telling ya it's all in the hair. Some smarter people look at your hands or neck when trying to guess and get a lot closer. But most folks look you dead in the eye and get distracted by the hair. Wild.
Man I almost skipped over the hot take "sponsor" I'm so used to skipping over baked in sponsorships but for some reason I hesitated and I'm glad I did!
Yay you’re posting more! Hope to see more videos on your channel this year.
Great content. Very courageous of you to post this. I was close on my guess, 39. It shocks me to think I was in college when you were born. Yikes, it's now time I find my walker and Geritol.
Seriously, the content about generations was very informative. Yes, it is about what group of people at or near your own age that grow up together experiencing it in a similar manner. As you pointed out, a similar age of people who grew up in another part of the world will have different generational perspectives than one say from the US or Europe. This is an area of study your video has prompted me to delve into further. Thank you!
the hottake ad is hilarious)) and the fact that your thesis was in the subject of generations makes the video 10 times more fun somehow 😄
Haha the HotTake ad 😂 what a fun personal video that you also made really informative! Also want to appreciate your full disclosure about the quote "I Googled recently." It's just a momentary few words, but says a lot about the kind of honesty you aspire to. As someone who also treasures honesty in an age where it is so tempting to seem so smart with the internet at our fingertips - even if the quote is already stored in my memory but is just a little unclear - I can really appreciate that level of awareness and courage 🙌
Haha oh man there is a lot of stuff I have to Google!
@@PhilEdwardsInc don't we all!! Or at least us the 99.99% of the population who don't have encyclopedic memory!!
Yup, being born in Indonesia in 1989 definitely shape how I see and perceive the world around me differently than a great looking 37 year old man with many great video contents. But as opposed to a stone, I can choose to move to a different spot on the river. Learning to try to perceive the world as a rock born in Japan in 2011 or America in 2001. Always love your voice and how you narrate a story or explain an idea!
Phil, as a fellow "vintage" millennial, I can't believe you didn't once make reference to blink-182's What's my age again? in this video. Unless it was for Content-ID reasons. Then I empathise.
You know, I far prefer "vintage" millennial to geriatric millennial. Thank you for introducing that term.
This made me think of how media usually portrays people 35+ as living out their twilight years.
Phil, definitely thought you were gonna make an out of touch, out of time reference at the end! Great vid as always!
Glad to see you and Johnny doing your own thing, hope you both do some collaboration some times
"How the year runs over us." You phrased that weird for a metaphor, but I think it's very apt for these years.
Honestly you look pretty good for 108 years old.
I think I could pass for a lean 106 honestly.
@@PhilEdwardsInc XD
Ok I said 40 but honestly I never thought about your age prior to this. Really enjoying your content.
I've always thought "generations" should be based on the when and what events that occur in their lifetime, rather than by arbitrary 15 year gaps. Someone entering their teens as the Great Recession occurred is going to have a very different perspective, with how that affects them as they're entering adulthood, on things than someone who experienced various other large events before that, and was older at the time.
As someone born in Virginia in 1981, I believe we are relatively close cohorts. Excellent video about a concept I’ve been trying to explain to my spouse recently. The extension of the river metaphor is such a good one and I appreciate the familiar landscape. Thanks for the content!
Thanks, cohort!
I was born in MT in '79, but lived in VA from 2 weeks of age until I was 24. I would like to think that would still count! :D
basically whoever had CC turned on, on YT... saw "Im 37" since 1:20 of video xD
Before Phil actually said it in 1:49.
I love how you just do more of your day job as a hobby. The content is really good too. I thought it was VOX for quite a while. I hope you make tons of money and can go solo if you decide to
haha this is true - day job as hobby
I am such a big fan! I can’t tell you how much I enjoy your videos. I love the subjects you talk about, your story telling, your cinematography, everything!
P.s You don’t look a day over 54 😄
I feel this Phil. I'm 42, but look older because of the gray in my beard. Great thoughts in this video. Also, the HotTake commercial is criminally under viewed. It is...
Totally reminded me of some of the Better Off Ted Commercials!
"Old woman!"
"I'm 37."
"What?"
I'm 37-I'm not old."
Sorry to be the Monty Python guy but I felt obligated.
Your videos is really creative and informative even tho the context is about yourself it's not like any cliche vlogs out there! I'm really a fan of you guys from Vox, I'm aspiring to be a journalist like you guys.
Thanks Romy! You're inspiring me to do buckle down and do my daily dose of research today.
Man I feel you on this one. I have never looked my actual age. I have always been thought of as being older than I am. In my freshman year of HS I had older classes asking me to purchase cigarettes for them. I was constantly being accused of being a Narc in HS. People thought I was the worst undercover cop and so obviously an adult.
Found your channel recently. I really love the diverse content you cover and the way you come at each of them in a slightly different way than I expect you to. Also, the fake medicine advert was amazing.
Thanks for sayin' that. I still take Hottake to this day.
40 was my guess. Found and subscribed to the channel today. Enjoyable. Will research to see if you have any other channels
Best sponsor video ever!
48? Call me if I won the contest.
It's the grey combined with the fact that you have the beard style of someone in their 50s. Shave the beard or grow a hipster beard and I bet people start guessing closer to your actual age. (Not an actual recommendation.)
Woah, didn't expect to see the James River make an appearance while watching this.
Some people just look older than their age. The actor Jon Hamm said in an interview he could never get "youth" parts -- ever -- because he "always has looked like a 40-year-old man". My husband kept being asked (into his early 40s!!) where he was enrolled in college. Our 35 year old son has inherited his dad's youthful look as well. I could tell you were MUCH younger than 50 because of your neck being smooth, but that part of you was covered by your sign in your queries to other people. IMO and TBH, it's your mustache that ages you, but you be you. You do good work, and I'm an enthusiastic subscriber of all your stuff.
Phil, don't worry, it's not 'grey' in your hair. I like to refer to mine as 'metallic blonde'! Great filmmaking, btw. I really like what you are doing. Keep it up!
Lol yes. I'll steal that.
I just happened upon your individual channel after following you on Vox for a while. I started watching this video thinking you were in your mid-late 30s. I'm 35 and on the opposite side of the coin. Genetics can be weird & fascinating.
As to your other premise, I think it would be theoretically fascinating to see a conversation between Strausse, Howe, & Nassim Taleb.
Hmm... I'd clock you around... 90? Maybe older. Very old. Very, very old
but a youthful 90 at least?
@@PhilEdwardsInc hahaha a youthful, radiant 90
Plot twist: he's actually immortal
yeah this seems like a good idea actually, now that you mention it
I was going to guess older until I saw the cutty sark and knew you were comfortably within a few years of me. I was right but I think my methodology was flawed.
So I blindly guessed 38, but I feel I have a bit of an unfair advantage being SLIGHTLY older. Fun fact; I googled myself once before a job interview and found someone had made a Wikipedia entry about me. Maybe it is my age but I found that weirdly disturbing. Conversely it does help in providing citation. :)
I had to Google you and was not disappointed!!!! Super cool.
The fourth turning is a new version of this book. It's strange, in the 90's they predicted that in 2008 we would go into a crisis that wouldn't resolve until 2028.. the guys who wrote it were economists, not sociologists. The problem is that i know as a human this argument is super convincing because pattern recognition is our way of life.. but it's nice to hear a counterpoint
I really guessed 36/37 it’s the grey hairs that make you look older
thank you for understanding my struggle
Everyone up to sophomores in college were BORN after 9/11. We have never been alive when America was not at war in the Middle East. I think these types of experiences contribute far more to a generational identity than anything else. At the same time, I have friends who’ve probably never thought about that and couldn’t care less so we aren’t going to be very similar.
"confronts his own mortality and finds out it's been cheating on him" Phil? You rock.
Came across this video by pressing the ‘oldest’ tab on your videos list… And then I pressed ‘newest’ and I swear to God you aged like 10 years in the span of three lol
trying to over perform
finally youtube recommended me a channel worth watching
The Strauss-Howe theory only holds up if very broad brushstrokes are applied. I read Generations about 10 years ago and bought into it up until the book reached the 20th century, the history of which I'm very familiar with. People and history are far more nuanced than they would have you believe. Also, I find it interesting that both Strauss and Howe are Boomers, the generation that seems to be the most invested in talking about the uniqueness of generations (especially their own).
Was guessing 38. But, this is coming from a fellow 37 year old lol.
you’re closer to my guess now than you were when you recorded this, but mine was 40.
Thank god you’ve fixed the audio quality since this video 🙏 (two years ago when I’m typing this)
it's a journey lol
Maybe one of my favorite videos of yours so far (and I've been faithfully catching up on the back-catalogue for a while).
Unrelated: Would you ever give a tour of your gear wall? The pegboards are such a brilliant idea!
Thanks! Haha, it is a pretty darn barren wall though it is useful! I mainly hang my backpack up there as some random junk. Then I sit on my couch, next to all my gear, and wish I weren't too lazy to hang it up.
What’s weird is I wanted to skip the fake ad even realizing it’s a fake ad. It’s just habit.
Insta sub as soon as I found out my favorite Vox contributer has a personal YT channel!
Hey thanks!
I have a similar premature gray hair look. Get super old age guesses from strangers. Several siblings also graying early.
the hot-take bit had me dying lol
I do think generations are like seasons if you ignore the whole repeating part. The days in a season are usually similar but they can have outliers, like 78 in winter or a snow storm in the spring. This is just like how while people in a generation were raised in similar conditions they are each different.
I also like the part were seasons start to blend together near the start and the end. You can have a cold fall day or a hot winter day.
I like that analogy!
I hope it makes you feel better that 37 was my first guess!
Great video as always, I think you could also do a video on the crazy Italian game show where they literally just guessed random people's ages for a cash prize, I can see you finding some great lessons there about how we age...or something about society, I'm sure you'll figure it out 😉
I always found it fascinating how thoss being guessed on would progressively get older as it gets way harder to guess after a certain age...
38 maybe
Texas Beach?
I'm 33 and I swear you are a relative to this local pro skateboarder around here in the PNW. "David Gravette." He rides for Creature skateboards. ~i love your videos man!
dang i feel cooler by association now. it's all the mustache.
So glad I came across your channel. Love your videos on vox, and it’s great to see your personal approach using the same lens. I guessed 37, so don’t be disheartened!
Consider me heartened.
lol, at 5:12, where you say: "Hot Take is not responsible if you run for Congress and win"
That box head prop... *chef's kiss*
why does this only have 17k views???
2:29 the arm moving in the basket got me but i knew you were within like 5 (or 7) years of my age lol
that ghost still has yet to be explained...
that wes anderson type title card made me fucking lose it fjaksdhlsk thanks phil
Phil this is great, and right on the nose ... but like you said it's very real to be out of touch. ... but I think when people assume your generation they do it based on two things only - your appearance and your character. You look 50 first of all, this is apparent by your fantastic chat roulette experiment, bravo. So that you can change IF you wanted to. Your character probably feels comfortable how you look which is why you do look the way you are. But that too can be changed. You can effectively act younger. You can stay current, be interested in whats trending on tiktok and yes, listen to Post Malone. I think we don't constantly stay current because it's not just hard, but unnatural. We want to be part of our birth cohort group, but, you can legitimately choose which cohorts you want. I have younger and older friends that I associate with, on a real and profound level. I think it's a scale you choose, not one that you are born into and are locked into. Most dont choose, but it is possible. Except for the Post Malone. That's ... extra.
sorry would reply more in depth but too busy getting new face tattoos
@@PhilEdwardsInc Sorry Phil I wrote this while I was drunk ... and I got drunk by soaking tampons in Fireball. Gotta run. (does Fortnite dance as he fades into the distance...)
Knowing your style, the "In which our hero..." bit is probably gonna be 100% accurate. Whoever guessed under 36 is just... why? Im leaning towards early to mid 40's. Perhaps Ill be pleasently surprised but youve got too much salt to make me guess any younger. Regardless, even in your most recent videos youre looking sharp!
Edit: I wanted to say 42 so bad!! 37?!? Honestly if I presented masc Id kill for your look. Seems like youll probably age like a fine wine.
Gosh have I mentioned how much I appreciate your approach to subjects. Random satirical medication ad has me fucking reeling, every bit of its so well put together.
I was just thinking Phil Edwards looked like an Oldman. Gary Oldman, specifically.
Brilliant and insightful.
Not me literally googleing "phil edwards vox age" because it legit throws me off. Like both 55 and 28 at the same time
The delivery on “I’m 37” made me cackle
glad you had the chance to finally use the bell lmao.
oh btw INDONESIA IS MENTIONED
I’ve suffered a substantial brain enlargement after watching this video
I like Adam Conover's theory on generations, which is that they're simply buckets into which marketers place people to simplify the word because marketers aren't as smart as they think they are.
I do think bringing media consumption into it is a misstep though. That's nowhere near universal enough and involves a high degree of other factors... like whether your parents are willing to pay for the slightly fancier cable package so you can watch the Disney channel. The tent peg events which make a cohort are things like pandemics, recessions, disasters because they change how everyone in the society is thinking.
As soon as I saw the sign my brain said “37” and I was right. Only because I’m not that much further down the river; a decade (give or take a few years) your junior.
You were old enough to see Tommy break free from the force of evil. Well I'm young enough to remember when he had a student he taught to do the same.
Adam Conover did a presentation about this subject too, and everytime someone talks about generations I link them to that presentation, because it's such a made up concept that sometimes just creates more harm than good.
My high school history teacher was about the same age as Phil and greying. it happens early to some folks.
i guessed 37, but i'm 37 so that's probably why.
Yeah, honestly as someone born in the late 90s, I don’t like being grouped in the same “generation” as people born in the early 2000s who I don’t relate to at all.
A young woman once asked me how old I was and I replied “51”. She then said like “Oh my God, you don’t look 51”. So I asked her how old I looked and she said “49”. I responded to her “that’s no difference”.
haha i love that she had a mental picture of 49 though
Well done. This was clever and insightful (and funny)
You're 10 years younger than me and you always will be.
"you may feel irresistible urge to start a podcast on HotTake" LMAO
I was guessing 36 - 41 years old before you revealed it.
The lighting in the picture makes some of your beard hair look grey. That is why people are saying 50, bad lighting. My mom turned grey when she was 25, lol.
can you do a video in why campbell's soup cans have a gold medal on them? Like was that them donating a ton of money to the olympics or???
That’s hilarious - I guess they won a gold medal at a world’s fair! I’ll add it to my list.
Watched this just now a second time and I forgot just how great this video is 😂.
You’re my favorite YT personality out of the 250+ channels I subscribe to. The moment you drop a video I’m clickin to watch it 😁
Have a wonderful day Phil!
Thanks a lot - likewise Derek.
No worries, you do look your age, most people are just bad at guessing ages!
My cats scattered when I loudly exclaimed "Hah!" when you revealed that you were 37 at the time of the video, having correctly guessed.
did the cats guess right?
@@PhilEdwardsInc if for that question asked the number of meows would be their answer, you should be a baby.
Ok I just found your channel and instantly subscribed, you're fantastic and funny!
Keep making such good content!
Oh wait! I realized I was watching your older Vox videos... 😅
Me and the last guy on Chat Roulette were thinking the same thing!
I think we're all just so used to seeing celebrities who dye their hair to the point where we think that any grey hair means 50+
Since I finally found out how to comment, I have to say that 2:29 is the best part :,D. It always gets me. What's falling down in the background?
Haha that’s hilarious you noticed. I remember noticing in the edit but don’t have time to be a perfectionist in these (believe me, now I’m realizing I could have fixed it in editing!). It’s my grand Joby tripod, which I wrap around trees, benches, and other miscellany in the field.
frame of reference
I'm still not sure how many years 'a generation' actually is. Is it 10, 15,20? How is this calculated in the first place? Because i.m.o it should be based upon the age where someone produces offspring.
I'm five years older than Phil, and I guessed his age perfectly. It's not as straightforward as "grey hair = old" I'm just as grey as Phil, probably a bit wrinklier, but people are regularly surprised to hear I'm as old as I am.
1:48 For my defence, I thought 40 something. Not 50 something.