Mixing Vintage Nashville Country In A Modern Studio
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- In this in-depth video for Sound On Sound, producer Lincoln Grounds shows his mixing process for making vintage Americana in the modern age. The project brief from Audio Network was to create authentic library music in a country style of the 1930s, '40s and '50s for picture. Lincoln takes us through the process from start to finish, from writing and arranging the music, selecting instruments and players that fit the style, and how the recordings took place.
Lincoln then gives a detailed look at his mixes for three recorded tracks, each of which have been mixed in both a modern and vintage style. He also demonstrates some of the tips and techniques for mixing and shows many of the plug-ins that were used and why.
Last time we met producer Lincoln Grounds, he was recording ’50s style. Watch the full video here: • Recording In A 1950s S...
Chapters
00:00 - Intro
00:44 - Producing Library Music For Picture
02:31 - Historical Accuracy In Recording Setups
06:42 - Creating An Authentic Sound For Modern Purposes
09:48 - Tracking Process And Playing To A Click
11:54 - Importance Of Musical Arrangements & Instrumentation
13:19 - Creating Authentic Backing Vocals
Track Breakdowns
14:14 - 'Out On The Plains' Cowboy Style Main Mix
17:50 - 'Out On The Plains' Vintage Mix & Plug-ins Used
24:08 - 'Stayin Out Tonight' Country Shuffle Main Mix
28:16 - 'Stayin Out Tonight' Vintage Mix & Plug-ins
35:08 - 'In The Morning' 1930s Gospel Main Mix
37:46 - 'In The Morning' Vintage Mix & Plug-ins
46:15 - Final Thoughts
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"..it's actually really easy to get to get a vintage sound because effectively what you do you take really old gear, try to make it sound as clean as you possibly can, and it's failure to do so is what gives you the vintage sound" best advice for getting a old sound I've ever heard
yay, studio one! :) for me as an inexperienced producer, there are so many gems here. All these little tricks Lincoln uses to make it sound old.. brilliant!
This is one of the best "how to" videos I've seen on mixing. Period. I thought Lincoln's earlier video on recording "vintage style" was excellent, but this one is even better. I've now watched it several times, and learned something new every time. SOS, please keep them coming.
Great video! Studio One finally!
The change in reverb in the vocals over the years is huge. from big rooms to tight
And yet another super interesting video featuring Lincoln. I could listen to this guy all day.
Nice to see Studio One used here!
llgms Yes!
Easily one of the best DAW's on the market
Wow. Great to see another Brit making this awesome music. And yes, this is all about getting the right musicians who understand the music inside out. I love his attention to detail and knowledge of the intricacies of this style of music. Great video. And yes, three cheers for Studio One too.
A craftsman indeed, and as I switched to Studio One professional, nice to see a pro using it as well.
As a country musician and fan, I found that utterly fascinating - great job!
Thank you for allowing Daryl to sing for you. You make him sound super!
Really great insight into simple technique and simple processing applied expertly. Wonderful!
This is awesome. Vintage Country. Love it and thanks for sharing the knowledge.
Fascinating. Loved watching this.
Oh yes, yes, yes. Absolutely love this. Love this music. More like this please.
Brilliant! Absolutely fascinating!!!
Absolutely brilliant video and thanks for putting me on to studio one instead of the laborious cubase i was using before . Able to concentrate on recording and mixing now . Thanks.
Really good stuff. The 50's recording video with Lincoln and this country video are awesome resources for me as a beginning mixing engineer. Thank you very much for posting these videos and thank you Lincoln for all these great insights into your workflow. Greetings from Cologne, Germany.
This was really, really cool. Well done.
wonderful & fascinating
Amazing! Thank you
Brilliant!!! Learnt a lot here....Thank you
18:50
“Cheap as chips”
(French Fries)
🤩✌️🎶🎶🎶🎶
great stuff. thanks.
That first sentence holds so much truth
Nice sound. Good work. Thanks for the video. I lern a lot .
Thanks! Great sounds : D
Amazing Video, i learned a lot. THX!
Certainly nailed the instrumental arrangement from the period on "Staying Out Tonight." I listen to a lot of this music. IMO, the vocalist's articulations or perhaps just timber sounds a bit more Texas than Nashville, but that's on a really picky level. Really awesome work.
Can’t go wrong with Mark Fain on bass. Cool video.
Very interesting.Thanks.
I hope one day you'll revisit Lincoln to make a video about recording Death Metal in a 1960s studio 😃
Good stuff...excellent daw choice.
Studio One!
As someone who listens to a lot of old American music as part of my job, all of the mixes are shockingly authentic. The ballad might be might be a touch overdone, but the shuffle is dead on--especially the Bradley-like touches. I get that a real "folkways" copy wouldn't have worked for the project brief, but the gospel song homage is also wonderful. Kudos to the musicians as well. The only thing that seems out of place is the steel playing which, pedals or not, is a little bit too mid-career-Ralph-Mooneyish, a style that wouldn't have been heard until well into the 60's. Wonderful video!
Greatest
That's a pretty sweet desk...
studio one too cool
Studio One
👀 Devil Loc on the mix bus? 👍
Love Studio One and can't for the life of me figure out why it's not more popular. I can't stand looking at Pro Tools, Logic has really weird quirks, FL and Ableton are great for "producers" but not so quick for mixing engineers...Studio One's got it all--especially after 4.0.
I have mixed in pro tools, ableton, logic, and FL. Should give studio one a shot, but I always find myself coming back to ableton. On surface level it seems to be strictly a “producer daw” but I can mix quickly and effectively even with just stock ableton plugins.
Studio one is alright protocols is ok .. but as an engineer I’ve found multiples of ways to work more proficiently in Fl studio
@@YeahNoyeah There is absolutely no way you’re an engineer and you can work efficiently in FL. You’re probably just a beat maker
This looks fantastic.
I like your approach to the mix and production. Some 50's country had remarkable frequency range and others not so much. You made a good choice to choose the sounds that suited your project.
I'm an obsessed fan of country music from the 40s through the 60's, and a jerk about it. I felt the pedal steel player threw in some post 50's feel now and then. Not at the head, that was great. I really liked his playing. However, I think it would raise my eyebrows though if I was watching a movie based in the mid to late 50's. The male singer's phrasing might be a little off, kind of hard to say from the clips. I heard some Carl Butler who was big in the early 60's, which is really close. Maybe a little bit of Hawkshaw or Cowboy Copas which totally works. Am I hearing Porter Wagoner?
When I think of the 50's male singers first of mind is Hank, Little Jimmy, Webb, Early Ray Price, Lefty Frizzell, Tommy Collins, Faron Young, Starday George Jones, Carl Smith, etc. A little bit different sound. You do hear voices like his back in the 50s though... so I'm really just being a jerk. I should probably delete my criticism
Wow! Studio One Daw! That's what I use along with Pro Tools 2019.6...I use Studio One Pro. 4.5! Awesome! I thought most studios used Pro Tools and Logic. I have the perfect DAWS for me and am in good company with the pros!
It’s all about the songwriting. Music production was just a business model, but the better people get at the technical aspect of production, soon there won’t be any music producers but overall modern composers. #IggyTheReal
Theres a bit of a bruce sprinsteen river pinch in there . Ha i love it
Love to see this guy do it the other way. Old vintage gear and try to get the most cleanest seperated modern sound he can...just for fun....only using 8 tracks or something lots of creative bouncing ect.
14:45 vs 23:15 .... hmmmm.... the first mix is maybe a bit clean, but sounds era appropriate to me, and the second sounds "photoshopped" so to speak to sound old. I think split the difference.(especially the vocals sound shrill and "fake old".)
Thanks so much for creating and posting this video. I do have some technical questions--The vocal mic was said to be a 44, which I took to mean an RCA 44bx, but in the video, an AEA 44 R44C is shown. Was the AEA mic actually used? It is an active mic, I believe, that does not need a preamp, although it would usually be fed through a AEA preamp that has high gain--85 db. Was that done for the recording, so the signal chain is mic --> AEA-->computer interface-->software chain? If so, could you tell us which preamp was used, and the settings for it?
Truth is and I hate to break it to all the equipment snobs. Elvis, buddy holly, Dion, Ritchie Valens, Rosie Hamlin, little Richard, Fats Domino, Etc. Would have sounded like them selves with today's tech. I personally think people think to hard about this. I know all that legendary equipment sounded beautiful but so does modern equipment. If Elvis & his band would have had the same equipment today they would have sounded like Elvis & his band. More clear even. The equipment didn't make these artist. It was their performance that made these legendary records. There is plenty of hipsters with vintage equipment that have it all but their songs still sound modern. Think about it.
man, that sounds like Ranger Doug.
This guy reminds me of an actor from Underworld.
I would love to see this same style video for 90s country.
If this proves anything to me it is that anyone who talks about how much better analog gear and tape is in the mix process for the sound they lent to older records is just plain wrong. Put the best gear you can afford that captures the sound how you want to hear it in the end in front of great players on a well written song and the rest takes care of itself as long as you can properly hear what your mixing.
Anyone else hearing Warren Huart's voice as they read the last bit? I did lol
all the "old" mixes sound very plug-in-y.
I agree. Also, this is not to sound negative to the creators of the content in anyway.
I think one thing that might be missing from the mixes is the fact that those bands would have played together all at the same time and there would have been a natural bleed of music throughout. Since everything appears to be multi tracked here, I think that may be a potential source of the inauthentic sound. Just my two cents. 🤔
If you watched the video he explained that due to the brief they were given by the company they couldn’t get the musicians to play together, because the company that hired them required multitrack recording where they could mute anything they wanted. He also even explains that the proper way to do it is by having everyone in the room at the same time
@@MisHapMusic I don't think that's the issue. The dry mixes sound nice and not far off from clean 60's/70's country recordings. The problem is the little radiator plugin he's slapped on everything makes it sound cheesy -- partially because it's an incomplete illusion. So you have this build up of the same grit on everything, whereas in real life you'd be getting different distortion and rolloff characteristics from all the various gear. It's also missing signal noise, vinyl warble, etc. -- all the stuff that together makes a recording sound old. It's probably good enough for whatever music library he's produced it for.
@@Thoracius They do sound like nice 60's/70's recordings dry, but the brief requires a 30's/40's sound.... the point is, he has said everything in the video that you said above, that it's not the way to really achieve it, he is just attempting to achieve the sound on new equipment and software based on the brief where they want the option to be able edit after the fact, you are never going to make it sound exactly like real old recordings without the old gear and players in the same room (which the guy already said in the video) I'm just not really sure what you are giving out about, they made a great effort, and it's a lot truer sounding then a lot of "faux" old recordings I have heard in the past, where they just slap on "vinyl warble, or scratching" and call it a day.
@@MisHapMusic The guy is obviously very talented. The other video where he records the 50s band sounded great. My critique is that the Little Radiator plugin he put on everything just sounds like a software plug-in distortion -- it makes everything sound shitty in a digital way, not in a birth-of-recording way. Obviously it's not the worst lo-fi effect I've ever heard, but it's also not convincing at all.
The only issues I'm hearing is that there's too much reverb. It somehow sounds more like it's inside a big empty warehouse instead of coming straight off the vinyl. I don't think they were using plates in the '40s, either.
Do I spy a pre-mkII WA-12 500 series?
Cripes there's some compression on that guys... i can hear the liquid in his throat, eww! Thumbs-up anyway though 'cos SOS ;)
you can see why elvis knocked them of their purge although having shared that today all is autotune and crap
sounds like a music played through megaphone in empty shopping mall, not really vintage
amen, vintage sound was super hifi recorded on very hi end gear, cutting all the his and lows dont make it vintage, it makes it stupid
Wow !! Why Don't they sell this stuff? Country has gone to shit and authentic eras of country are awesome.
the modern equipment dont really capture what the tubes did even Elvis his produces shared this ... old great was the best still is
all i hear is aliasing and seperation. sorry but that's not doing it for me
I dont care for his work. On the last video at Sugar Rays he spent 30 minutes on video trying to record with one or two mics and couldnt get a sound for nothing. Then on this video he wants to just take his digital EQ and cut all the his and lows out and say thats oldschool. Are you freakin serious. This guy does realize that ALL tape recordings from 48 till 60's especially in "nashville country" was recorded in MEGA hi fi! Shit i got consoles from late 40's that go to 20k and 20-30hz on the UTC outputs etc.. These tricks are for people who have no literal clue about the music. If you wanna learn how to record roots music then you should ingulf your life in the roots music, not try and come up with some tricks so you can fake a scratchy record or shitty stereo lo fi sound. ALL of the labels back then were making hi fidelity recordings, United, Chess, VEE Jay, King, Sun, Columbia, RCA etc... Maybe instead of trying to fake your way maybe engineers should actually listen to roots music to record it. Why cant an engineer take the work seriously and learn the music and history of recording before making videos to cheat your way. You know how WIDE them old records sounded, how they had incredible hi end, rich thick low end. Even in the 30's they were making clean big sounding recordings. Just because you heard a scratched 78 on your 30$ record player doesnt mean thats what the records sounded like AT ALL! Nashville Country was recorded in the biggest hi fi studios in nashville, do you really think this is how you get the sound haha. please say no. and YEs for each era there IS a recording setup and style. By 1948 tape came out and ampex ruled that world. 48-57 you had all ampex 350 and 300 models in one or two track, you had tube consoles either hand built or purchased from rca or western electric or you could have custom ones made, most circuits all from earlier western electric designs and using UTC transformers or a number of others but that was only choices they had back then. EQ they really only had passive eq back then until the pultecs, cinema and rca and others made passive eq all of which have a 3,5, 10 or maybe 12k boost or cut and low end cut or boost. Everyone was using the same eq's and filters until guys like putnam put them inside consoles and pultecs started coming out with amplified eq's. Limiters/Compressors you had western rca, gates, collins. i have owned all of them and most all of them are very very very similar in design and all sound very hifi and KILLER!, mics rca 77, 44, ku2, altec m11 etc.. so all these studios and labels were using the same kind of gear and setups. Most recordings were all mastered on ampex 300 mono. Vintage recording is no mystery but if your lazy and you think you already know it all then you wont be able to learn and you will think it is some mysterious magic. It is not.If you learn about the music , eras and genres of music you record you can eaisly create that vibe and sound with common sense. Taking a hifi recording and cutting all the low end and hi end doesnt make a vintage sound period. This makes your recording sound like its in a tin can and trust me Universal Chicago wasnt recording in a tin can. Enough with the gimmicks, learn the music and its history dont watch videos on youtube which mislead you. Knowing the history of the music makes you love and love it even more. I love how his digital files are clipping and squashed too, i mean lord have mercy.
Could you give me 2 favorite tracks from each era you refer to as a comparisson? I like a passionate response to things. I have been listening to a lot here recently as, like I am sure many feel, the DAW has opened a window to some of us poor artists to have a go at recording. I subbed your channel, enjoyed your uploads and now feel I ought to listen to some suggestions of yours. Regards from over the pond.
Mixing the box is shit, pushed by people trying to sell stuff 🥺 it’s like making movies on an IPhone 🤔 you can do it but why❓
Because physical outboard gear, large mixing boards, racks, tape machines, and space are prohibitively expensive.
Ya u right let me just drop thousands of dollars on studio time or gear
Ignorant andy
my assessment, confirmed by these songs, is that overdone & badly done artificial reverb, circa 1949-1969, made those records sound WORSE than the eras before and after…!