American Reacts to Ultras - Our Way of Life
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- American Reacts to Ultras - Our Way of Life
I react to the video Ultras Our Way of Life in this video.
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To quote the legendary manager Bill Shankly: "Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that."
Generic you totally right, its a world game. and you our born a fan for life
Its not a sport, its a reglion! At least for us here in Europe!
Imagine if these people would use their energy against the goverment instead of a football game.
@@gustavusadolphus4103 You think we dont... Do you get what all the ACAB on stadiums means?
Do you think all the political flags on the stadiums are their for fun? Unfortentently their is many clubs that is big supports of big government, and on many stadiums flags of hugo chaves, Che guevara etc etc etc is found on the curves, you will find on many curves that their is Antifa flags or right winged flags etc.
Football (Soccer) is a way of life for Europeans for us it's more important than life ... my club got relegated this year "Killie" Kilmarnock Scotland's oldest professional football club founded in 1869 football hooliganism between rival fans is common place especially before during and after a game with your local derby rivals sometimes if the fans are not segregated it can spark off inside the ground ... in Scotland all the grounds are segregated but it still doesn't stop the occasional pitch invasion
Cmon the Killie..👍
U all stop saying" Europeans " u all act like u the only ppl living in this earth and apparently the North African and Latinos ultras are the best in the wrld take it or leave it
Yeah the flares are being thrown between rival team's fans. That's why they keep us away from eachother
could you please react to "why ultras are so important for football" it also explains every questions you might have about this subject :)
70s and 80s in the UK was mental. Some serious shit went on in the terraces
As a student I lived near the Dell in the early 80s, we knew just not to bother to try & leave the house when there was a match on. Even the city centre wasn't safe, I've witnessed a group of supporters lay into a guy walking along minding his own business, just because he wasn't wearing Southampton's colours.
Still happening in rest of Europe, Uk just lost their passion for football! Come to Scandinavia and firms are everywere, come to Balkan and its the same, come to south Europe you have firms etc.
Yeah I heard some of the stories, it’s no joke
@@AceHighAlbion we haven’t lost our passion, we’re just too heavily policed
@@ne270 its the same in rest of Europe? Why everyone is masked up.
And i dont understand why all firms in europe dont go together now and stop this madness EU is doing with Covid... cant believe all firms just accepted our clubs to die because of covid.
The fights in the stadiums are between rival fans or between a group of the fans and the police. Mostly the first, but fans are now separated so much that it doesn't happen much anymore. With the police I have seen it start a few times when the police was positioned in a way that they were obstructing the view of the people in the front rows and they simply got beaten out of the way, as the fans pay good money to see the game and not to watch at the helmet of a policeman
I am from germany and Travelled a lot of Places in east germany the police is a lot More violent than the west
@@lucasillmann4957 da hast du Recht. Ich bin aus NRW und wir haben hier ne Menge Rivalitäten, aber die Bullen im Osten sind nochmal eine ganz andere Hausnummer
Saw that video a hundred times and still get goosebumps seeing it. Greetings from Cologne 🔴⚪
Football is a way of life over here in Europe, very few can match the passion although the fans in South America are pretty hardcore to
North Africa is no joke especially Tunisia and Morocco some individuals settle they personally beefs in the stands of stadium
Check indonesia they kill each other with guns, axes and machetes
I've had my fair share of fights with the riot police. It was always a thrilling experience. I kinda retired though. Got stabbed in the leg by a fan from our biggest rival. Don't want to risk my health anymore after that. Now I just attend all the matches and go straight back home after that. Leave the crazy stuff to younger and more extreme guys.
True. I don't attend matches against our biggest enemies anymore. I'm too old for that kind of stuff 🍻
You saw the confederate flag at Olympiakos stadium, the Reds of Greece are a team located in the biggest port in Medditeranean called Piraeus.
The reason of that goes back in WW2 and the 60s where the American 6th fleet was very active there firstly because of the WW and seconldly in the 60s because of civil war tension.
Also American marines when they werent employed for combat or guard, they were enjoying the local brothels and prostitutes which gave our rivals the opportunity to mock us to this day.
Football in Europe is integrated with politics, class struggle and even war.. That's why you see police being so passive compared to the States.. If they use real violence they could trigger a bigger event which could be way more damaging than what you saw in those videos.
Loved your reaction very different to the others.
it is more than just football, it is tribal. your team coloures are your battle flag and no one backs down from fighting for it.
Your team, your city, your pride 🔥❤️
I just think many Americans fail to realise that our support towards our teams is more than just sport, this is family. We stand for the club through everything, politics, debt, liquidation and so forth. I’m glad this guy is interested.
Football is very important. In Europe, and most of the rest of the world. RIght now, we are glued to our screens for the English Premier League, in Kenya, not even in England. And our local clubes here....have a huge cultural and ethnic ties. Derbies are usually fire. It can get very personal at times when it comes to matters football. Europeans however, are the wildest when it comes to the game and fandom
RESPECT to You, your comments to all your videos are always well thought out and properly articulated!
In America looks like a riot, in Europe it just Sunday
You should check out one called "Aris Thessaloniki fans!"
That is probably one of the best ultra chants/video I've seen. Only a minute long but really catchy
There is a longer version of it available, just type "Aris" into the search bar on YT and you will see their amazing support
Lmao, nicest recommend ever.
For context, more people even over there would say "their crazy" but they will accept it. Because who ever you are and from you can understand fanatism, and football is likely a gladiator battle for us, and they battle for cities, countries etc. ... So our pride is played there, maybe we accept all of this just because we need it to make it real ? I don't know but god damn, for me who isnt a football fan, when you enter the stadium and see this you want your team to make them shut the hell up and so do the same lol.
To see the other side of this take a look at the Hillsborough Disaster where 96 men, women and children were killed. 96 who went to watch a game of football and never came home again.
(Edited to correct the number.)
RIP to all the victims, what a horrific day that was. Also f**k the Sun.
which was caused by the police
it was 96 that died which only makes it worse.
A horrific event which was caused by South Yorkshire police , the fact that the families had their loved ones that died made out to all be drunk and fans trying to help called pick pockets was a disgrace , covered up from the start.
@@craigfs81 It was. My apologies and no disrespect meant. Just my fingers being stupid.
Kudos to the beard!
Really like your channel.You keep an open mind,have a good sense of humour and a very infectious laugh.
Would like to see you react to the heysel stadium disaster in 1985,the event that got english football teams banned from european play for 5 years.
We had a huge hooligan problem in England we got banned from playing the rest of Europe. Now derby days and that the police presence is huge mounted, dogs, riot shields walls to keep groups apart and we still get trouble. Everyone is separated to stop the violence. Also, it took years of undercover and intelligence to infiltrate and take down the major violent football gangs. Europeans we have been fighting for over 2 thousand years, I think football helps take its place.
Old Geordie skinhead hooligan here EB, 74-85, fecking loved the away matches, tribal as fcuk, TOON ARMY,,Durham lad here. (PVL)
Oh and, not so fun fact: in German football more people get hurt by police brutality, tear gas etc then Ultras.
In or around the stadium area, yes. But still not true. Ich sag nur Ackerkampf.
Das ist subjektives Empfinden.
*than by
for a moment there i thought he was going to show a tattoo on his arse
listen im a football fan as much as the normal dude but if theres a big match going on im not going on public transport if i can avoid it... shit can get real dangerous for bystanders too
They're called "Ultra" for a reason 😉
In the words of the late and great Bobby Robson. “What is a club in any case? Not the buildings or the directors or the people who are paid to represent it. It’s not the television contracts, get-out clauses, marketing departments or executive boxes. It’s the noise, the passion, the feeling of belonging, the pride in your city. It’s a small boy clambering up stadium steps for the very first time, gripping his father’s hand, gawping at that hallowed stretch of turf beneath him and, without being able to do a thing about it, falling in love.”
This is why we Europeans are so passionate about our clubs, they're ours! It might be 'owned' by some billionaire. Owners come and go. we were their before and we will remain after.
through the relegations and the successes. Through the bitter defeats and the euphoric wins.
THIS IS MY CLUB!
its a heritage,
your father brings you to the stadium and your branded for life with the colors of your team.
hail from switzerland
FCSG1879
FCZ💙🤍
Where I go to football games and where I sit there is a hand full of people who have sat in the same seats for years! And they've all got scars on the right side of their heads where the rival fans sit and throw stuff. The atmosphere is good though haha
Most of this is from Sebia, Croatia, and balkans in general. Most of the scene are from Red Star ultras, and Partizan, grobari. Here, football is more then a game, it's a way of life. We live for our teams, and don't afraid to die for our teams. So here, it's more then game, it is a way of life. But if you come once, you wil remember it forever. it's a really special expirience.
you guys have something similar at San Jose , they have a big ultras group created by european and south american imigrants, and now a lot of american youths joined the group.
His eyebrows nearly left the room when the 2 crowds ran at each other.😂😂
That's absolutely normal behaviour for football. 🤣🤷🏻♂️
8:32 Mostly fans of the rival teams, though that video with two flares flying towards a smaller group are two factions of the same team (fans). One faction went all gangster, drug dealing, crime, even dirty work for the secret service and some political parties - like money laundering, extortion, kidnapping and murder. Other opposes it. Club is Partizan. Country - Serbia.
This video is probably the best ultra compilation out there.
It's just a shame that they didn't include anything from the UK.
It would be a bit boring with everyone sitting down!
In the Uk no club exept for Crystal Palace I think has Ultras
Here in Germany every club to the 4th division has at least 50 ultras
So it‘s not a shame
@@kbeau9538 well in UK nothing much ever happened in the stadiums anyway, the real action was out on the streets
We don't really have "ultras" per se. We have very passionate fans and big supporter groups but other places in Europe do it very differently and it's much more intimidating
It was included in a few clips, you could see st georges flag when they were celebrating
Most is from Serbia, Greece and I think bit from Croatia and Turkey and I think some from Russia
But cops got used on it and are there to prevent fans running on the field or to the players. Because if cop even in full riot gear entered in the seats with the fans..... cops are there to protect from big conflicts (like two opposing club fans fighting) But they will mostly ignore flares and similar....
and germany
maybe this is already awnsered, but i will share my humble opinion anyways^^
why a fanblock may use flags, like an american cofederate one, has a simple thing behind it.
some fans use all sorts of flags with the colors of their club. for example bayern munich will choose blue red related flags. bvb dortmund uses all sorts of yellow and black things are used to show the love to the club in the ranks.
its like, all the world has made up their flags in the colors of your team, just to bless honour them. and this is proudly shown.
you will also see flags of different countries, according to the heritage of the current players. to see which nations strength your team grounds on.
merry christmas :D
Torcida Split, ultras fans of Hajduk Split use Confederate flag as the referenc of Split and Dalmatia being the south of Croatia. Generally it is used to point out that the club comes from the southern city and part of a country. Plus, Torcida Split is the oldest firm (the name for organized football fans) in europe. Since 1950
Good reaction,so I've subscribed 🏴
Perfect timing, Scotland just got beat in our first Euros game
Only one rule in fight, no knife, only your hands like man.
I know this video is old but I like you man.
What's the chant at 2:12 ? I dig that! The rhythm and melody are perfect, it sounds almost as if they're casting a spell \o/
That's Olympiakos Piräus Ultras from Greece. I can't translate it bc I don't speak the language, but I'm sure some Google research might help you 😉
@@onkeltom8539 cheers mate! \o/
@@WithmeVerissimusWhostoned cheers 🍻
"Football is not a matter of life or death. It is far more important than that". Bill Shankley, Liverpool manager.
These stadiums, when they fill up and take on that atmosphere, it's like being in the coliseum in ancient Rome.
this is not fanaticism for sport teams, it is a subculture that allows relatively young men and also older men who have any amount of aggression in them to let it out through chanting and jumping. it is sort of an organized warfare on weekends. and then everyone goes back to their normal lives and families and jobs. of course those few that are ultra aggressive will end up fighting police or in jail or whatever, but most of the fans are not like that. so it is a very good way of letting go of aggression and fulfilling a very human need for tribalistic warfare. and that way we avoid random shootings in the street or between gangs. it is all channelled, released and than people are calm.
The only difference between European and American fans is that most European club owners are club members, who are mostly fans not from a wealthy family or a company that owns American clubs. We have a voice in the club's decisions, the Americans are merely spectators of a game
For Americans it is entertainment for Europeans the club is a second family.
8:40. Yes. Those fans throwing stuff on each other are the clubs hooligan firms.
Fans been kept apart .... in the 70’s and 80’s one of the biggest things to do when you went to a game your team are playing away at is invade the pitch and take the other teams home end , this would be getting a result , or trying to go unnoticed and paying into the home end, once a good amount of you in there you put it on those in the home end and chase them out and that’s claiming a result ! But this doesn’t happen anymore ... sadly
European hooligans are a serious force. Even braging americans would run away. No joke. Hooligans have also been banned to leave their own country during EuroCup and Worldcup. Cops really struggle to handle it when the hooligans gets pissed off.
In Denmark, they are called rooligens - meaning "the calm, polite and quiet". Rooligens are very fun to be around, just party+smiles.
Eclectic beard if you got goosebumps and felt something epic watching this video...roots Europe can do that
For the ultras, defending your home club is a matter of personal pride. Especially when it comes to Balkan teams. Those people are crazy. Fights between ultra groups are a normal thing.
Americans don't understand it's not just sport it's life and death. It's completely different to the way you follow sport
Please check out liverpool boss night. It shows the less violent tribal partying that fans love.
police may be badly outnumbered but roman legionary tactics and shield show how romans were top dog on the battlefield...it's the reason why riot police are able to push back the larger group and those sticks hurt like a mf and you can't do nothing against that shieldwall when they advance and start hitting are record speeds
Liverpool hooligans used to say we don't start fights but we sure do finish em! feared in the 70's and 80's not to be messed with
The European people are a people of war, they always stick together and compete.
If you take their swords, they will bleed for a sport, literally.
This is why they were always so advanced, it is like their genes scream for unity and competition.
In England we do not carry knives or cover our faces we stand alone together.
Unlees its a big rivalry
Anybody know what countries were in the video. Isn’t one Turkey? I know it wasn’t England, England is all about the chants
watch "Why Ultras Are So Important For Football"
As long as the feck each other up (or go against the state in case of good reason), it's all fine and daaandy.
Security at football (or as you call them Soccer) matches can’t touch fans they are there for safety and if anything kicks off they get on their radio to the police. I did event safety years ago and if I could have put some idiots out I would have. But we’re not allowed to touch them. Saying that I dunno about Europe but I’m sure it’s all over.
@@SimSim-zf9if I was staring a fact that we can’t eject trouble makers. Eclectic Beard says security must have a hard job on their hands. Pay attention instead of trolling you may not look stupid!
10:38 We mostly use union flags to show origin or allegeance to British (punk) subculture and cheering style and confederate flags as a symbol of rebelion, contrarianism, disobedience etc. Has nothing to do with contemporary US politics, racial issues etc.
Can you watch 17 biggest derbies in English football. Its amazing
About time he learnt about the firms hahaha
The firms that are not active anymore
English fans are nothing compared to mainland Europe
@@user-ly3wf1us2y yea fore real
And mainland Europe fans are nothing compared to English hooligans in the 70’s and 80’s.
Plus it’s because of mainland Europe that we had to change. They banned us from European competition because of Heysel and other incidents.
As an older person, i have watched the British game of football take over the globe. To the extent that foreign clubs are huge too & have huge fan bases. There has always been rivalry between British fans from different English clubs & between Scotland, Wales etc. However, the rivalries we see today in foreign nations, goes against everything 'sporting', its become like a war. These people that cover their faces, are out for trouble, they're football hooligans & quite deadly with it. Its not about football to them, its about wars with opposing sides! They aren't true football fans whatsoever.. Simply dangerous thugs & are a disgrace to their clubs & football itself! 🇬🇧🇺🇸
a match day is match day, next day is business as usual :) greetings from the east
ive seen them pass a injured fan over there heads down to the front then go back to chanting
Awesome video!! Hey- save me some wall space lol
Passion
Here the Confederate flag stands for rebellion against the Goverment. And the flag looks pretty cool too
You wanna see what happens when they run into each other in the streets? Search for Battle of Marsailles, EURO 2016.
Check out the English and Russians
@the eclectic beard there's at least one ultras video on youtube somewhere where you can see how much the stadiums upper places sway from the jumping ... and it looks like 40cm / 16" maybe even more ^^
I have a tattoo on my left cest so right above my ❤ for my soccer club Feyenoord Rotterdam Holland. Feyenoord till i die and 010 its in my DNA . 💪👊 jacco from Holland 🇳🇱
Where I live the local derby between Blackburn rovers and Burnley is a very heated one, they have to get the greater Manchester police and Lancashire police to keep it in check, no fan is allowed to go to the match by another means then coaches (buses) there was a man that lived outside of the Blackburn ground, he had to travel all the way to Burnley so he could watch it back in blackburn where he lived. The fans of both towns are nasty, they will try to destroy anything around them. The UK isn't as bad as it once was just main land Europe where this really still goes on.
Reminds me of the miners strike
4:50 that‘s actually a pretty small crowd and stadium
we are the music of club in stadium
Its more safe in a stadium then a regular school in the US
You should take a look at Millwall…no flares, no banners, no dancing….just taking it to everyone. NOLU!
They are all good boys ...its just football
The police contain rather than control the crowds which is common sense.. If US cops were in charge there would be a lot of body bags needed.
Well if you want to see some absolute madness you should check out Fenerbahçe - Galatasaray Firefighter it’s an oldie but a goodie 😉
Some stadiums are even builts to support the jumping of the ultras when they begin.
The player number 12 ...the ultras play
Going in Germany to a Football game is like going to war. I think its most extreme in germany
Lets play capture the flag!
No justice no peace, fight the police!
You talk about security. but what are the police and security supposed to do? The Ultras are thousands and they are not afraid of the police. They are not afraid of being beaten or otherwise injured. That just makes them stronger, tougher and more dangerous. And they have their own weapons.
Balkans baby
You don't really get ultras in England, most fans who attend games now are middle class as it's too expensive for most working class fans to afford the high prices, and the middle class fans don't show that level of passion. The only team in England who an ultras movement is Crystal Palace. It was very different back in the 70s and 80s, violence amongst the fans back then extremely common. I used to follow my team at every game, home or away and witnessed a lot of that sort of thing
Also the Law cracked down on it so bad with really heavy sentences.
One absolutely concurs with those sentiments but I simply must away as I am in the most fearful rush as I have "8" coming for Supper this evening.
ps: It's been a long road since witnessing the birth of hooliganism by attending Millwall matches from 1962 and visiting 84 other grounds during those wild Late 1960's/1970's/1980's where Police "Intelligence" was somewhat limited..
@@MrNifts Damn the police, always getting in the way of a good time 😂
@@Isleofskye You are right, they were seriously wild times, and you'd probably hate my guts as I follow West Ham🤣
@@bigcheese6212 HAHA Chelsea here, so all 3 of us probably would had a tare up back in the day
just wait 5 years
Much respect to the Ultras from England! In the 70's and 80's football violence used to be massive. Theres still firms and that now but can't get away with it much now. England still have the reputation as they are still trouble makers and bring the passion when they can but saying that theres so many banned from travelling to support the club and national teams which is a shame. The saying over here in Englans as I'm sure all the Ultras say too is "you can change your wife, religion and friendships but you can never change your football team". Keep up the good work mate
Football a replacement for war
nah the policemen are hard as hell but so are the holligans so a big fight is part of it
6:18
Most high stake football games have riot police ready in case of tensions. Wether it’s to protect fans from each other or sometimes the players from the fans
finally, a reaction with some depth
I think I may have mentioned this before, but if you're curious how far this phenomenon can go if you throw in ethnic/nationalistic tensions into it, then look up the riot that erupted on May 13th 1990 at the match between Croatian side Dinamo Zagreb and Serbian side Red Star Belgrade. It was during the waining days of Yugoslavia. A lot of people have called it the football riot that sparked a war, though it's not exactly universally agreed. At the very least, it was a catalyst for it.
I'm sure there must be some videos about it on RUclips. Perhaps it's something to check out in your own time.
@7:16 ahaha yeah that's because that movement gained notoriety recently in the states, but here in europe its hold and even tho there are many firms that are indeed left wing and connected to antifa, there are also many others that adhere to right wing side of politics
Sadly now flares shows are mostly for important games or special moments but at least its not gone forever ,as for the riot police sadly they can cause even more violence if any of them are a bit too keen on using force,31 years old,been to games since 5 and ive seen and taken part un a few fights and i can say some have been started by the police hitting some fans(on rare incidents by targeting non fans by mistake) and from my experience those are the worst ones to be in.
in germany is football time, warzone
You have to understand the Italian roots of football, have a look at Calcio Storico