Spoiler for the finale There was no scene where they stood together and said "now we are the league of legends" 0/10 Also Singed got the best ending 15/10
@@romainf3780 Why do you think Netflix did that? I mean the show is popular. You don’t think at least 3 seasons would be doable. But apparently that’s too tall a task.
@@stdamonsbeard Making it about piltover makes it more about Vi and Jayce then about LoL, which probably Riot thinks isn't as good for marketing their shitty game.
When Vi's/Jinx's mother talked about being pregnant, I was literally in a cold sweat, that one of them will be revealed as the actual father. It thankfully didn't happen, but this scene still destroyed so much.
And I swear the implication in Season One was Silco takes on Jinx out of revenge and to spite Vander. It completely changes it up now to seen it that he was taking on the daughter of a dear friend. Idk maybe I missed something but in Season One I didnt think there was anything to suggest Silco knew Vi and Jinx's mother.
Silco took in powder because he saw himself in her, he was gonna kill her otherwise. Him knowing her mother doesn't change anything because as silco said he was born anew@@HeckDescender2184
@@devilonyourshoulder4732 It didn't destroy anything. These claims I've been saying are so bizarre. It literally only showed Silco and Vander being friends and Vander naming Vi. You guys are so delusional lol
Genuinely gutted this was how it turned out. Such a massive step down in writing quality from S1. All spectacle and seldom of substance. I really wanted to like it.
Appreciate it then, it’s the most visually stunning season of tv ever created and got a lot right, it didn’t hit the landing but who cares, shit happens
Timestamps 0:00 Singing, Prepping & Forgetting 1:45 We’ve got a job to do 3:39 Act 1 9:07 Act 2 10:29 Music Video 28:50 Episode 4: Kaitlyn & The Missing People 43:00 Jinx & Grogu 1:05:10 Ambessa 1:17:39 Rictus & Smeech Show 1:19:00 Rictus 1:22:32 Firelights 1:28:06 An Iceberg full of S#!t 1:34:44 She Jinxed 1:35:40 Ambessa & Kaitlyn 1:46:49 Climbing The Character Ladder 1:51:28 Sevika 2:02:45 Jinx + Meme 2:09:08 Meeting 2:24:50 Warwick 2:30:00 Meme + Jinx Madness 2:42:40 Team Up & Recognition 3:07:33 Warwick: From Comical to Horrible 3:44:40 Bad Take? 3:45:00 Episode 5: Vi Evolution 3:57:18 Vi & Jinx 4:21:46 Detective Dracaitlyn 4:32:04 Mel 4:38:34 The Tunnel 5:05:42 Singed 5:09:48 The Puzzle 5:10:50 Singed’s Plan 5:23:53 Another Pointless Mel Scene 5:26:18 A Message From Vander 5:38:08 Warwick vs Vi 5:50:08 A Damaging Flashback 6:04:34 The Big Hug 6:17:15 Jayce & Viktor 6:27:53 Closing
I hope you know we had everything When you broke me and left these pieces I want you to hurt like you hurt me today and I want you to lose like I lose when I play What could have been Oh, what could have been
Where is my home? I don't recognize the faces anymore, no-o-o Where is my friend? The one I've known since I was only just a kid I think it's time to say goodbye... Goodbye goodbye Goodbye Arcane
I really didn’t like the direction of Mel’s story in this act. Her entire arc in season one is about choosing Piltover as a home over Noxus. Now they’re going the she’s got some special blood, she’s the key to everything route. Her destiny is greater and beyond. It undermines her character arc in season one to remove her from Piltover in its most troubled time. She should’ve been there as a foil to Ambessa’s plans
The creator posting that regarded shit on twitter has convinced me that season 1 was a fluke. Like Joker was. Somehow the stars just aligned the right way once and a miracle happened. You'd think that to create a masterpiece the author would need to understand it on a much deeper level than the viewer, but I guess not. I guess they just bumble through it and get lucky.
The whole segment discussing Ambessa and the goat people in the lab was hilarious. Honestly, I was genuinely laughing. And I want Rictus and Smeech fanart (I know we're getting some next Memefap...)
5:53:59 To be fair to the show, the bridge scene already implies Vander's personal connection to the sisters. After Vi nonverbally asks where her parents are, Vander gestures to Felicia's corpse, implying that(at the very least), he's acquainted with Felicia as a fellow resistance fighter and recognizes Vi and Powder as her kids. That alone creates a personal reason for Vander to abandon the battlefield. The flashback isn't inventing a personal connection out of thin air, but elaborating on a connection that was already established. I like the theme of Vander adopting Vi and Powder for impersonal reasons(i.e. purely to stop the "cycle of violence"), but that's not what the opening scene was going for.
It's like the writers wrote all these of episodes/scenes seperate and never bothered to exchange notes, not to mention check them with the previous season.
This may be coping but like… I can’t help but believe the executives are to blame for this. They refuse to give me time, they gave them half the time to make this season and it’s obviously for money’s sake. That’s my take on it anyway cuz I can’t believe the writers would deliver us such shit
Arcane is effectively, officially, tragically dead. In terms of storytelling, there’s no coming back from this. Visuals do not equal a good product alone. They only facilitate what can be. I am convinced the writers either are not the same hires as S1, or like Avatar TLA, the true writer wasn’t involved with the follow up. The difference in quality is too uncanny. The fact my experience boiled down to “and then, and then” followed by “I can’t follow half of this” was already a crime in itself.
@The_Truth_Logic I think that's a skill issue if you can't follow it because it's really not hard. Other then it being rushed, the writing is still good and a LOT of the criticisms you guys are making have been outright regarded.
More likely, Season 2 got botched because it wasn't supposed to be the final season, I refuse to believe there aren't at least 2 seasons crammed in there it's just not possible otherwise.
"We played a game where we used to pretend to chase monsters away. I'd say, 'No monsters gonna get you while I'm here.' Then a real monster showed up. Good 'ole Uncle Silco that helped raise us along with Vander. Yup, been there the whole time." Vander turned his back on Zaun for the kids. Silco turned his back on the kids for Zaun. They both betrayed their promise to Felicia. Great job, writers.
Man, the amount of reaching you have to do... First, Silco was never implied to be as close with the kids as Vander was -- and even if he did interact with them, he did so when they were WAY younger. Second, Vander never turned his back on Zaun -- he just refused to spill blood to make it happen. He still maintained a community within the Lanes, a much healthier one than what Silco ended up with.
It would've been more interesting if Isha was actually just a figment of of Jinx's imagination, but in the Tyler Durden way. So when Isha does her thing at the end of E6, it's just the briefest flash to Vi's perspective that it's actually Jinx doing that and not Isha. This whole time the audience is like "wtf is going on, how is she doing so well all of a sudden?" and then the writers are like "lmao, psych! She was getting worse all along!" Would that have required a rewrite of whole scenes with Isha? Who tf cares, those scenes need a complete rewrite anyway.
I cannot wait for next week. I want to see them dismantling the absolute disaster, that is finale and what it retroactively does to season 1. Was this the plan all along? Was season 1 just a fluke?
I tried to hold out hope for act 3. What a goddamn fool I was. Only thing I’m positive about is these writers were rushed af the second arcane became super popular and we’re not given enough time to cook in the writing room
what really pisses me of is that in the game, cait has lines about: investigating, being on the case, being a cop/sherrif/detective, but in arcane she does nothing like that, she s a leader of a martial lawed city nation, a lesbo, she gets go learn martial arts from ambessa?? she doesn't realize ambessa has ambitions, wait... what is ambessa's ambition? why does she do what she does? power? establishing a dinasty? get control over piltover for noxus?
I think ambessas goal to be fair is to defeat the Black Rose, and for that she needs lots of hextech weapons at first. Later on she settles for her soldiers becoming mini viktors I guess?
Yeah, kind of disappointed with season 2. Act 2 kind of cemented it for me. They tried too hard to force a pre planned ending, but didn't do enough to make it work.
Started the first episode of Act 1 as a first monitor show, ended the act as second monitor show. Started act 2 as second monitor show, didn't even finish act 2, figured I'd just watch it on EFAP 😢
Outside of the unbridled depression and dread of it all, their comments at 6:31:14 are at least a bit reassuring to think about - how the first season of this show can still work on its own in a vacuum and be appreciated for what it is, ignoring the continuation of it and ending its own self-contained story with a question mark instead of… this…
This one hurt. Game of Thrones was bad, but it was gradual, while this one fell a cliff. Hurt so much that i couldnt even watch these Arcane 2 efaps because it just would make me more depressed and angry
Jayce's arc this season is him getting over the social anxiety that consistently keeps him from sharing vital information with people. JUST TELL PEOPLE STUFF.
What bothers me about the music video is that 1) I didn’t even know that there was a music video until this EFAP and 2) for all of the content they cover in the music video (instead of adding it to the show), the last three episodes were shorter than any episodes in the show, they had time to add details into the show, they just didn’t
At around about 48:00 talking about jinx you guys seem to misunderstand what it’s like to actually have a mental illness. Her actions are right on par with how someone might act. Mental illness doesn’t just mean insane 100% of the time
How can this be canon to LoL universe, i dont know, several characters are either dead, or changed beyond recognition, maybe its a cope, but this clearly needed at least one more season
Now that Season 2 is over... I did enjoy it, it's still better than most the shit coming out these days and the animators still killed it. HOWEVER, it doesn't touch Season 1 and it would have been so much better if it had 3 seasons and took more time with the characters. Apparently originally it was meant to be five seasons??? Yeah I can tell...
Yeah even tho this could not be more further apart than Season One ever since 2017 I personally judge tv shows, movies, games I consume on one question: "Was it worse than The Last Jedi?" Although somehow that has now been changed to "Was it worse than The Acolyte?" - I can happily confirm Arcane Season 2 didn't fall all the way past the bottom. Thats my opinion anyway aha
Yeah. Season 2 is enjoyable; sadly, Season 1 was more than enjoyable, it was genuinely masterful, very well written and on point with its subtle characterization. Meaning that while Season 2 in a vacuum is fine entertainment, taken as a continuation of Season 1 it is very, very disappointing.
@@matthewcollins4773 yep very much agree. We have a right to expect more than to "just be entertained" I could just watch a supercut of a bunch of movie explosions if I wanted that ahah
bro moist critical praises the hell out of this bs... like bro has seen the penguin... how can u even praise that then think arcane is anywhere near that level of balls and story telling..
@Aim_Paradox Everyone else is praising despite having some criticisms too. You're just gonna have to accept that you're in a tiny tiny minority of haters.
@Radman22 he claimed in the first 5 minutes he still glazed s2. personally aside from the art there's nothing to glaze. nothing was praise worthy character moments and plot points were ruined and rushed. shit writing all around
@Radman22 bro said they added dept to characters like viktor? .... like where? what changed...? jayce at least has a reason he changed. viktor flip flops every scene he is in.
@@za-ir5ni You can't say that otherwise they'll call you "one of those", implying that even tho the consensus is that it has some problems it's still a good show, the EFAP stans will tell you it's on par with Rings of Power.
@KyleOfTheNorth Saying it's on par with Rings of Power would actually be such a regarded take if they actually said that lol. Like no perspective at all.
I was out when I saw the first 5ish minutes of Episode 4, they skipped over so much meat to get to a confusing place with Caitlyn skanking it up with a new woman and I hated her for not shooting Jynx in Ep 3. Such complete tonal whiplash and I missed everything I was interested in for a stupid blue haired feminist montage. Then after that some new character wearing Jynx's skin as a costume is hanging out with the plot device child and I was done. Complete betrayal of everything I enjoyed about the first season.
As far as I can tell the showrunners and head writers were the same, with writers from season 1 that did individual episodes, swapped for new writers. It seems to be a mix of less time than season 1 (2 years vs 6 years) and too many cooks in the kitchen, but I also think they got lazier as 2 years is more than enough time as it would be 8 years total to develop the full story. I'm both satisfied and empty after the finale. So much potential, pretty much wasted writing wise.
Whenever anyone says that S2 was excellent, I’ll remember episode 5, and how Silco and WarWick had their characters retconned so much that S1 is an utter disaster for them.
The most confusing part was I swear that there is nothing in Season One in anyway at all to suggest that Silco knew Vi and Jinx's mother? Maybe I missed that? Idk it was really weird like seeing that scene in Episode 5 I was like "oh are they retroactively trying to make Silco and Jinx's relationship more tragic? You would have thought their father/daughter situation would have meant even more in Season One that he was taking on the daughter of a dear friend?" My take on Silco looking after Powder was like out of revenge to Vander? Like to spite him? Idk it was very weird that now its shown he knew her mother I didn't think Season One had any clues to that.
@@nhagan001 Explain how they were retconned. Because I can easily refute an absurs claim like that. This is why nobody is taking you guys seriously on this. It was indeed a good season.
@@HeckDescender2184if episode 5 is to be believed, one would think they this crew of three would sooner die than abandon their bond. So when one of your crew says “I’m pregnant with a girl”, first thing you see the bartender do? Switch the drinks. So you take this REALLY close bond with the mother, and apply it to the daughter… You would think when THOSE TWO SPECIFICALLY hear about the death of someone important to them? First priority would be the Daughter left behind. Episode 5 gives huge vibes of “the child of this woman should be everything to you. You should see raising and protecting this girl as honoring the memory of your best friend.” Does it feel like Silco and Warwick care about this woman’s daughter nearly as much as they do, given how you need to inject this S2 episode 5 scene into the entirety of S1?
I dunno. I found s1 to be pretty mid plot wise with stock characters from a dozen previous media before it. It was essentially Metropolis redux via tumblr. There was care and attention to the look of the world but that was it. Soundtrack was atrocious.
3:48:41 In Vi’s defense, this was the same as Better Call Saul as well. (Spoilers) After all the bad things that happened. Losing his brother after the tumultuous relationship, becoming a pariah in legal community, losing Howard, having to work with dangerous cartels because he’s unable to escape, the one thing that somehow made Jimmy McGill snap and turn full evil as Saul Goodman was that Kim dumped him.
It was the culmination of all those events, with Kim dumping him being the straw that broke the camel's back. Kim represented the last component of Jimmy McGill's life; With her gone, the last thing he has is the Saul Goodman persona. All of these tragedies were out of his control, prompting him to make a full transition into the only thing he had any agency in. Everything associated with Jimmy McGill became undesirable to remember, so he forged a new lifestyle to forget his past.
the level of nitpicking these guys are able to pull off is incredible Really speaks volumes how most of the complaints hardly affect the enjoyment of what's happening, like jinx traveling to vi and then back to the tunnels. I could care less because its extremely inoffensive.
It's still not that bad. Of course season one was stellar and in comparison probably anything would pale. And yes, it is a letdown and they rushed a lot as if the plot would be well suited for 3 seasons and not for two... and probably there were a few too many characters and their arcs intertwined for the good of the show... BUT... name me another popular show that holds up to the critique! Breaking Bad broke down (yeah, pun intended), Band of Brothers doesnt have to bother with worldbuilding and plot so it is a lot easier to just focus on characters, Avatar TLA had some really lame moments (and I LOVE that show), and so on... This is still more than acceptable (sorry, I come from I culture where 'not bad' can be a synonym for good), even enjoyable most of the time! And I will still really be looking forward to their next project, around 2030 maybe...
Breaking Bad doesn't blitz every character through several seasons of character development off screen or have Walt and Jesse defeat cancer and addiction with the power of multiversal bullshit and friendship
@@stbr68People (EFAP especially) already acknowledge the flaws of season 1, they're few and far between. Season 2 has major issues in every scene, very different.
@@The1337guy1 EFAP didn't address any real flaws of S1, such as how ridiculous it is that Marcus chose to put Vi in prison for (presumably) her whole life, or how nonsensical it was for the explosion in the warehouse to reach Sevika but not injure Powder, to ignite the shimmer that leads to the lab but not any of the shimmer piled in crates all around the room. It was by far the most embarrassing coverage they've done and the main reason I don't watch most of the channel anymore. S1 did have major issues in pretty much every scene, with every significant character save maybe Vander and Sevika. EFAP instead focused on superficial praises like how 'mature' the series is. The only difference between S1 and S2 is that the novelty of the overexaggerated animation has worn off.
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Spoiler for the finale
There was no scene where they stood together and said "now we are the league of legends" 0/10
Also Singed got the best ending 15/10
Singed in Arcane: "I will sacrifice everything and everyone to save my daughter"
Singed in LoL: "Swirl! Swirl!"
Complete and utter Singed W
I feel like Singed has become my favorite character just because of that lol
Singed and Ambessa were the only people I somewhat cared about in this season. It's so weird when in S1 I couldn't find a character to dislike.
Ekko and Singed were the MVPs everything else was a massive letdown
Maybe an unbridled rage for arcane is not possible but what about an unbridled squeaky?
Unbridled disappointment?
I concur
You could not handle the squeaky... you'd be droolin
Arcane Season 2: A Disappointed Sigh
did he say he's not gonna do it?
"In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good". - Riot Games
Uh, not really. Arcane is still very fucking good -- just too vague and too busy to work with what it should.
"How much time do you need?"
"20 episodes"
"You have 9"
- Obi Wan Kenobi
@@romainf3780 Why do you think Netflix did that? I mean the show is popular. You don’t think at least 3 seasons would be doable. But apparently that’s too tall a task.
@@stdamonsbeard Making it about piltover makes it more about Vi and Jayce then about LoL, which probably Riot thinks isn't as good for marketing their shitty game.
When Vi's/Jinx's mother talked about being pregnant, I was literally in a cold sweat, that one of them will be revealed as the actual father.
It thankfully didn't happen, but this scene still destroyed so much.
And I swear the implication in Season One was Silco takes on Jinx out of revenge and to spite Vander. It completely changes it up now to seen it that he was taking on the daughter of a dear friend. Idk maybe I missed something but in Season One I didnt think there was anything to suggest Silco knew Vi and Jinx's mother.
Silco took in powder because he saw himself in her, he was gonna kill her otherwise. Him knowing her mother doesn't change anything because as silco said he was born anew@@HeckDescender2184
@@devilonyourshoulder4732 It didn't destroy anything. These claims I've been saying are so bizarre. It literally only showed Silco and Vander being friends and Vander naming Vi. You guys are so delusional lol
@@HeckDescender2184 Silco didn't know that.
Genuinely gutted this was how it turned out. Such a massive step down in writing quality from S1. All spectacle and seldom of substance. I really wanted to like it.
Appreciate it then, it’s the most visually stunning season of tv ever created and got a lot right, it didn’t hit the landing but who cares, shit happens
Ending felt a lot muddled and disjointed, series 1 had such a perfect, tragic ending.
Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Timestamps
0:00 Singing, Prepping & Forgetting
1:45 We’ve got a job to do
3:39 Act 1
9:07 Act 2
10:29 Music Video
28:50 Episode 4: Kaitlyn & The Missing People
43:00 Jinx & Grogu
1:05:10 Ambessa
1:17:39 Rictus & Smeech Show
1:19:00 Rictus
1:22:32 Firelights
1:28:06 An Iceberg full of S#!t
1:34:44 She Jinxed
1:35:40 Ambessa & Kaitlyn
1:46:49 Climbing The Character Ladder
1:51:28 Sevika
2:02:45 Jinx + Meme
2:09:08 Meeting
2:24:50 Warwick
2:30:00 Meme + Jinx Madness
2:42:40 Team Up & Recognition
3:07:33 Warwick: From Comical to Horrible
3:44:40 Bad Take?
3:45:00 Episode 5: Vi Evolution
3:57:18 Vi & Jinx
4:21:46 Detective Dracaitlyn
4:32:04 Mel
4:38:34 The Tunnel
5:05:42 Singed
5:09:48 The Puzzle
5:10:50 Singed’s Plan
5:23:53 Another Pointless Mel Scene
5:26:18 A Message From Vander
5:38:08 Warwick vs Vi
5:50:08 A Damaging Flashback
6:04:34 The Big Hug
6:17:15 Jayce & Viktor
6:27:53 Closing
Appreciated as always
Not all heroes wear Dracula capes
I hope you know we had everything
When you broke me and left these pieces
I want you to hurt like you hurt me today and
I want you to lose like I lose when I play
What could have been
Oh, what could have been
Droolin for a squeaky
@thedoobieshrew0244 :(
Where is my home?
I don't recognize the faces anymore, no-o-o
Where is my friend?
The one I've known since I was only just a kid
I think it's time to say goodbye...
Goodbye goodbye
Goodbye Arcane
Sting, don't do this to me.
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
Overall, I enjoyed it quite a lot, despite its fault.
My day is... pretty much as good as the last.
I really didn’t like the direction of Mel’s story in this act. Her entire arc in season one is about choosing Piltover as a home over Noxus. Now they’re going the she’s got some special blood, she’s the key to everything route. Her destiny is greater and beyond. It undermines her character arc in season one to remove her from Piltover in its most troubled time. She should’ve been there as a foil to Ambessa’s plans
The creator posting that regarded shit on twitter has convinced me that season 1 was a fluke.
Like Joker was. Somehow the stars just aligned the right way once and a miracle happened.
You'd think that to create a masterpiece the author would need to understand it on a much deeper level than the viewer, but I guess not. I guess they just bumble through it and get lucky.
The whole segment discussing Ambessa and the goat people in the lab was hilarious. Honestly, I was genuinely laughing. And I want Rictus and Smeech fanart (I know we're getting some next Memefap...)
5:53:59 To be fair to the show, the bridge scene already implies Vander's personal connection to the sisters. After Vi nonverbally asks where her parents are, Vander gestures to Felicia's corpse, implying that(at the very least), he's acquainted with Felicia as a fellow resistance fighter and recognizes Vi and Powder as her kids. That alone creates a personal reason for Vander to abandon the battlefield. The flashback isn't inventing a personal connection out of thin air, but elaborating on a connection that was already established.
I like the theme of Vander adopting Vi and Powder for impersonal reasons(i.e. purely to stop the "cycle of violence"), but that's not what the opening scene was going for.
It's like the writers wrote all these of episodes/scenes seperate and never bothered to exchange notes, not to mention check them with the previous season.
This may be coping but like… I can’t help but believe the executives are to blame for this. They refuse to give me time, they gave them half the time to make this season and it’s obviously for money’s sake. That’s my take on it anyway cuz I can’t believe the writers would deliver us such shit
Arcane is effectively, officially, tragically dead. In terms of storytelling, there’s no coming back from this. Visuals do not equal a good product alone. They only facilitate what can be. I am convinced the writers either are not the same hires as S1, or like Avatar TLA, the true writer wasn’t involved with the follow up.
The difference in quality is too uncanny. The fact my experience boiled down to “and then, and then” followed by “I can’t follow half of this” was already a crime in itself.
@The_Truth_Logic I think that's a skill issue if you can't follow it because it's really not hard. Other then it being rushed, the writing is still good and a LOT of the criticisms you guys are making have been outright regarded.
More likely, Season 2 got botched because it wasn't supposed to be the final season, I refuse to believe there aren't at least 2 seasons crammed in there it's just not possible otherwise.
@@za-ir5ni Such as?
I'm still pissed at characters acting out, Cait would not talk to Vi like that after all they had been through.
What a lot of...hyperbole.
Guys, I am from the future, it's true, all of it, wolf is in Arcane!!! all hail Bilbo!!!
When Ambessa saw pizza in Mel's mouth and said "You are the Wolf" I coomed. Peak fire!
“I am all the Wolf.”
“And I am all the Arcane.”
Wolf, it's you! You're the American Psycho!
This isn’t Arcane, it’s Arcade.
From Fallout: New Vegas? Nobody tell Doomer...
Arcane: Folie à deux
Ah shit, you might be right. Fuck.
"We played a game where we used to pretend to chase monsters away. I'd say, 'No monsters gonna get you while I'm here.' Then a real monster showed up. Good 'ole Uncle Silco that helped raise us along with Vander. Yup, been there the whole time."
Vander turned his back on Zaun for the kids. Silco turned his back on the kids for Zaun. They both betrayed their promise to Felicia. Great job, writers.
Man, the amount of reaching you have to do...
First, Silco was never implied to be as close with the kids as Vander was -- and even if he did interact with them, he did so when they were WAY younger.
Second, Vander never turned his back on Zaun -- he just refused to spill blood to make it happen. He still maintained a community within the Lanes, a much healthier one than what Silco ended up with.
Seeing this show get worse by the act was almost as painful as Rags trying to pull off that Le Blanc's joke.
It would've been more interesting if Isha was actually just a figment of of Jinx's imagination, but in the Tyler Durden way. So when Isha does her thing at the end of E6, it's just the briefest flash to Vi's perspective that it's actually Jinx doing that and not Isha. This whole time the audience is like "wtf is going on, how is she doing so well all of a sudden?" and then the writers are like "lmao, psych! She was getting worse all along!"
Would that have required a rewrite of whole scenes with Isha? Who tf cares, those scenes need a complete rewrite anyway.
Not a bad idea, actually.
Droolin for a squeaky is the only thing in my life that brings me joy
that is giving Dustborn's "song" lyrics a run for its money
The dinger has been dongered
*cries*
Arcane is speedrunning the GoT Season 8 moment
Well season 2 was a huge disappointing mess. When an unabridged praise for S1 and an unabridged rage for S2?
I cant watch Arcane Season 1 anymore knowing it will lead into this nightmare of a season
Just wait until Act 3. They haven't even begun to suffer.
Calm down it was fine
@@joer626No it wasn’t
@@joer626 act 3 was, in fact, not fine
@@politkos5348 you are in fact, getting a tad emotional
@@joer626Think about the reveal that happens with Jayce and realize Season 1 has now been made 100x worse, if not ruined completely.
I cannot wait for next week. I want to see them dismantling the absolute disaster, that is finale and what it retroactively does to season 1. Was this the plan all along? Was season 1 just a fluke?
What if Rictus, Waldreg, and The Don team up?
The Good, the Bad, and the Rictus. The most formidable trio in this or any other town.
I feel that Slipknot and Wayde should also be part of the team
@ EFAP Avengers
Don't forget John Walker and M.O.D.O.K
I tried to hold out hope for act 3. What a goddamn fool I was. Only thing I’m positive about is these writers were rushed af the second arcane became super popular and we’re not given enough time to cook in the writing room
what really pisses me of is that in the game, cait has lines about: investigating, being on the case, being a cop/sherrif/detective, but in arcane she does nothing like that, she s a leader of a martial lawed city nation, a lesbo, she gets go learn martial arts from ambessa?? she doesn't realize ambessa has ambitions, wait... what is ambessa's ambition? why does she do what she does? power? establishing a dinasty? get control over piltover for noxus?
I think ambessas goal to be fair is to defeat the Black Rose, and for that she needs lots of hextech weapons at first. Later on she settles for her soldiers becoming mini viktors I guess?
Yeah, kind of disappointed with season 2. Act 2 kind of cemented it for me. They tried too hard to force a pre planned ending, but didn't do enough to make it work.
How they manage to make me like the previous acts more and more simply because the quality drops with each one is actually quite intruiging
Echo in paradise and Jayce in hell still the best episode.
episode 4 Ambessa making 2 Will and Jada Smith references really threw me off, like is this finale season a joke to you. Am I a joke to you.
The jinx is dead scene actually made me cringe into a different dimension, no relation to the first season or the character arc😂😂😂
Piltover has fallen, billions must consume shimmer
I just find it hilarious that Maddie ended up being the rebound girl, her and Vi even shook hands
Started the first episode of Act 1 as a first monitor show, ended the act as second monitor show. Started act 2 as second monitor show, didn't even finish act 2, figured I'd just watch it on EFAP 😢
"In the pursuit of terrible, we failed to do mediocre." - Bilbo Baggins
🥴🤢🤮🤤😴
"What could've been."
Hot Take from Act 2 - Beast-Vander is still hotter than The Beast from 2017 Beauty and The Beast live action remake.
What?
Outside of the unbridled depression and dread of it all, their comments at 6:31:14 are at least a bit reassuring to think about - how the first season of this show can still work on its own in a vacuum and be appreciated for what it is, ignoring the continuation of it and ending its own self-contained story with a question mark instead of… this…
This one hurt. Game of Thrones was bad, but it was gradual, while this one fell a cliff. Hurt so much that i couldnt even watch these Arcane 2 efaps because it just would make me more depressed and angry
Adolph Kinneman.
Jayce's arc this season is him getting over the social anxiety that consistently keeps him from sharing vital information with people. JUST TELL PEOPLE STUFF.
Repost of my comment from the unlisted vod.
Who up arcing their cane? Wait, wrong show...
Sigh. More timid nutsa constantly being kid-gloved with "no you go... nono you go". Really throws off the flow of the damn show!
Lesbian breakup get back together any% speedrun
Jayce took the mantle of the Hebrew Hammet
Episode 5 did break my heart a little. A lot. A bunch.
What bothers me about the music video is that 1) I didn’t even know that there was a music video until this EFAP and 2) for all of the content they cover in the music video (instead of adding it to the show), the last three episodes were shorter than any episodes in the show, they had time to add details into the show, they just didn’t
At around about 48:00 talking about jinx you guys seem to misunderstand what it’s like to actually have a mental illness. Her actions are right on par with how someone might act. Mental illness doesn’t just mean insane 100% of the time
What is Arcane's obsession with showing chicks with chest bindings and no shirts.
Oh, it's the man(?) with the disconcerting voice and picture.
As disappointed as I am with this show, Maddies pinball arc was unironically funny.
That death was fucking personal xD
i love how the writers expect us to care about their plot devices getting killed off
like none of those mfs had actual character
How can this be canon to LoL universe, i dont know, several characters are either dead, or changed beyond recognition, maybe its a cope, but this clearly needed at least one more season
I feel bad for Mauler
Now that Season 2 is over... I did enjoy it, it's still better than most the shit coming out these days and the animators still killed it. HOWEVER, it doesn't touch Season 1 and it would have been so much better if it had 3 seasons and took more time with the characters. Apparently originally it was meant to be five seasons??? Yeah I can tell...
Yeah even tho this could not be more further apart than Season One ever since 2017 I personally judge tv shows, movies, games I consume on one question: "Was it worse than The Last Jedi?" Although somehow that has now been changed to "Was it worse than The Acolyte?" - I can happily confirm Arcane Season 2 didn't fall all the way past the bottom. Thats my opinion anyway aha
Yeah. Season 2 is enjoyable; sadly, Season 1 was more than enjoyable, it was genuinely masterful, very well written and on point with its subtle characterization. Meaning that while Season 2 in a vacuum is fine entertainment, taken as a continuation of Season 1 it is very, very disappointing.
@@matthewcollins4773 yep very much agree. We have a right to expect more than to "just be entertained" I could just watch a supercut of a bunch of movie explosions if I wanted that ahah
@@HeckDescender2184 I think the gap in quality is overly exaggerated here.
bro moist critical praises the hell out of this bs... like bro has seen the penguin... how can u even praise that then think arcane is anywhere near that level of balls and story telling..
they have seen the Penguin and liked it a lot too
Did you see the parts were he criticizes it or are you just gonna ignore that.
@Aim_Paradox Everyone else is praising despite having some criticisms too. You're just gonna have to accept that you're in a tiny tiny minority of haters.
@Radman22 he claimed in the first 5 minutes he still glazed s2.
personally aside from the art there's nothing to glaze. nothing was praise worthy character moments and plot points were ruined and rushed. shit writing all around
@Radman22 bro said they added dept to characters like viktor? .... like where? what changed...? jayce at least has a reason he changed. viktor flip flops every scene he is in.
Absolutely gutted.
Some of the highest rated eps in the whole show. Stay mad.
@@za-ir5ni You can't say that otherwise they'll call you "one of those", implying that even tho the consensus is that it has some problems it's still a good show, the EFAP stans will tell you it's on par with Rings of Power.
@KyleOfTheNorth Saying it's on par with Rings of Power would actually be such a regarded take if they actually said that lol. Like no perspective at all.
@za-ir5ni And Black Panther is the highest rated movie of all time. Your point?
@peanutgallery4 It isn't but go ahead
I was out when I saw the first 5ish minutes of Episode 4, they skipped over so much meat to get to a confusing place with Caitlyn skanking it up with a new woman and I hated her for not shooting Jynx in Ep 3. Such complete tonal whiplash and I missed everything I was interested in for a stupid blue haired feminist montage. Then after that some new character wearing Jynx's skin as a costume is hanging out with the plot device child and I was done. Complete betrayal of everything I enjoyed about the first season.
As far as I can tell the showrunners and head writers were the same, with writers from season 1 that did individual episodes, swapped for new writers. It seems to be a mix of less time than season 1 (2 years vs 6 years) and too many cooks in the kitchen, but I also think they got lazier as 2 years is more than enough time as it would be 8 years total to develop the full story. I'm both satisfied and empty after the finale. So much potential, pretty much wasted writing wise.
Arcane is 10/10 Oriana origin story
whats your streaming schedule? i swear i can never catch one of them
Saturday at 2:00pm EST is when they typically stream on the Mauler channel, this channel is for the reuploads.
Whenever anyone says that S2 was excellent, I’ll remember episode 5, and how Silco and WarWick had their characters retconned so much that S1 is an utter disaster for them.
The most confusing part was I swear that there is nothing in Season One in anyway at all to suggest that Silco knew Vi and Jinx's mother? Maybe I missed that? Idk it was really weird like seeing that scene in Episode 5 I was like "oh are they retroactively trying to make Silco and Jinx's relationship more tragic? You would have thought their father/daughter situation would have meant even more in Season One that he was taking on the daughter of a dear friend?"
My take on Silco looking after Powder was like out of revenge to Vander? Like to spite him? Idk it was very weird that now its shown he knew her mother I didn't think Season One had any clues to that.
@@nhagan001 Explain how they were retconned. Because I can easily refute an absurs claim like that. This is why nobody is taking you guys seriously on this. It was indeed a good season.
@@HeckDescender2184 You realize you're going off a wrong assumption, right? Silco didn't know who Powder was.
@@HeckDescender2184if episode 5 is to be believed, one would think they this crew of three would sooner die than abandon their bond.
So when one of your crew says “I’m pregnant with a girl”, first thing you see the bartender do? Switch the drinks.
So you take this REALLY close bond with the mother, and apply it to the daughter…
You would think when THOSE TWO SPECIFICALLY hear about the death of someone important to them? First priority would be the Daughter left behind.
Episode 5 gives huge vibes of “the child of this woman should be everything to you. You should see raising and protecting this girl as honoring the memory of your best friend.”
Does it feel like Silco and Warwick care about this woman’s daughter nearly as much as they do, given how you need to inject this S2 episode 5 scene into the entirety of S1?
@@za-ir5niI don’t need to prove anything to you. Your own show betrays you far more than anything I could say.
Good thing I haven't watchex either season. Though now I'm glad Darius, Swain and other cool characters werw never in it.
Metal ruined this by being tired.
He probably just finished watching Act 3
He's always tired. At least that means he tends to stay quiet.
I'm more annoyed by his CONSTANT throat-clearing.
So it has the same issues as Pantheon?
I dunno. I found s1 to be pretty mid plot wise with stock characters from a dozen previous media before it. It was essentially Metropolis redux via tumblr. There was care and attention to the look of the world but that was it. Soundtrack was atrocious.
My god, it's full of... suck. Chapter 3 is beyond bad.
3:48:41 In Vi’s defense, this was the same as Better Call Saul as well.
(Spoilers)
After all the bad things that happened. Losing his brother after the tumultuous relationship, becoming a pariah in legal community, losing Howard, having to work with dangerous cartels because he’s unable to escape, the one thing that somehow made Jimmy McGill snap and turn full evil as Saul Goodman was that Kim dumped him.
It was the culmination of all those events, with Kim dumping him being the straw that broke the camel's back. Kim represented the last component of Jimmy McGill's life; With her gone, the last thing he has is the Saul Goodman persona. All of these tragedies were out of his control, prompting him to make a full transition into the only thing he had any agency in. Everything associated with Jimmy McGill became undesirable to remember, so he forged a new lifestyle to forget his past.
the level of nitpicking these guys are able to pull off is incredible
Really speaks volumes how most of the complaints hardly affect the enjoyment of what's happening, like jinx traveling to vi and then back to the tunnels. I could care less because its extremely inoffensive.
It's offensive. You're just difficult to offend.
Better being a dissatisfied man than a satisfied pig. AKA, get better standards.
It is offensive you just have low standards
we found a consooomer
man arcane is trash
first
It's still not that bad. Of course season one was stellar and in comparison probably anything would pale. And yes, it is a letdown and they rushed a lot as if the plot would be well suited for 3 seasons and not for two... and probably there were a few too many characters and their arcs intertwined for the good of the show...
BUT... name me another popular show that holds up to the critique! Breaking Bad broke down (yeah, pun intended), Band of Brothers doesnt have to bother with worldbuilding and plot so it is a lot easier to just focus on characters, Avatar TLA had some really lame moments (and I LOVE that show), and so on...
This is still more than acceptable (sorry, I come from I culture where 'not bad' can be a synonym for good), even enjoyable most of the time! And I will still really be looking forward to their next project, around 2030 maybe...
Breaking Bad doesn't blitz every character through several seasons of character development off screen or have Walt and Jesse defeat cancer and addiction with the power of multiversal bullshit and friendship
@Aidan_2099 I have never claimed that they have the same issues
Besides I already admitted that Arcane didnt have enough time
Next step is looking back and realizing that the show was never good.
Nobody is with you on this one
@@rainbowremo1 Nobody expected S2 to be bad either. It'll take time, but more and more people will notice S1's flaws.
@@stbr68People (EFAP especially) already acknowledge the flaws of season 1, they're few and far between. Season 2 has major issues in every scene, very different.
@@The1337guy1 EFAP didn't address any real flaws of S1, such as how ridiculous it is that Marcus chose to put Vi in prison for (presumably) her whole life, or how nonsensical it was for the explosion in the warehouse to reach Sevika but not injure Powder, to ignite the shimmer that leads to the lab but not any of the shimmer piled in crates all around the room. It was by far the most embarrassing coverage they've done and the main reason I don't watch most of the channel anymore. S1 did have major issues in pretty much every scene, with every significant character save maybe Vander and Sevika. EFAP instead focused on superficial praises like how 'mature' the series is. The only difference between S1 and S2 is that the novelty of the overexaggerated animation has worn off.