I'm from Australia and I met Jared Petty a few months ago at GDC. When I told him it was my first time in San Francisco and specifically the States he said "Oh, I'm so sorry this is your introduction to the US" haha
If you really do like him a lot, and don't want to crap on him like everyone else in most of their videos comment sections, why would you define as one thing "Tim Just Network Getty's", dude lived a different life than me, and so did many other successful people, I'm not going to sit & whine about it & fault them for it.
At least Tim tries to admit his "warped perspective" about how expensive it is to live in SF, but no offense, "networking" is not gonna work for everyone. His privileges as a SF native is pouring out and making him come off as naive and foolish. I love you Tim, but even you need to admit that SF is outrageously expensive. I was there once for PSX and was appalled by how much not only gas was, but food in general.
@@pjuster2 It's the NIMBYs that make it difficult. Everyone who bought a house in the 60s/70s for cheap thinks that that gives them the right to deny any additional housing to be built to accommodate new people, because it would hurt their property values. If SF didn't cater to the demands of homeowners, then it would be capable of growing to accommodate many more people than it currently houses; maybe enough to rival NYC.
@@pjuster2 Which confuses me why KF is still there. I get it for those that are in the tech industry and need to live there to thrive, but KF doesn't need to at all. In fact I think they are hindered by being in SF.
It actually blows my mind that these "internet celebrities" are renting. Do they not understand that's literally just throwing money down a drain? If they move out of this city they could each get their own HOUSE (not apartment) and have a solid investment for their future (it's possible KF dries up somewhere down the line). Except they all seem to buy into the "culture" of SF, as if NO OTHER CITY could ever have culture. It's a great marketing ploy to keep people in the city though. Make them feel like nothing is better outside of SF. I hope someday they'll realize how ridiculous it is that they're renting in a city they have zero reason to be in. They could probably get even better guests by moving to Santa Monica or somewhere closer to LA like Colin did, not to mention they'd have far more opportunities outside of strictly gaming. They aren't a tech company and they aren't a game company, they're a podcast company, so I'm not sure why they're still in SF paying ludicrous amounts of money TO RENT. It surprises me how hard it is to get Tim to move CLOSER to Disneyland, where he could get an annual pass and go to his heart's content.
Yeah, spot on. Its fucking stupid. If you are relatively successful and making a bit money, if you rent you might aswell lit your money on fire. I honestly wanna know whats their plan for their future, because this shit is not sustainable. I think? Move the fuck out, invest in a house and save money.
I know I'm super late but you're 100% correct. I think they're not moving out because of Tim. He doesn't want to leave the city and now that he has setup that stupid home theater, even less chance of them moving. For some reason HE's the one running the company, the dumbest of the group. After all he was the one who convinced the group to spend a stupid amount of money for that useless LED wall(something he gets super insecure over every time it's mentioned, just like SF). I miss Colin calling him out on that. Tim is literally sinking this company.
Telling people to "Just Network" to find a place to live is something I don't agree with. That may work for a young person or someone new to the city, but what if you're someone who has been doing all of the right things. You've been smart with you're money, you've been living at or below your means, and then you get kicked out of your place because rent is increased. Or what if you have a family. Should that family just network to find a place to live? I agree that people need to be better with their money and not live above their means. Other than that tho, I think Tim is COMPLETELY out of touch. I appauld you all for bring up the topic tho. I like when you all take a break from the funny to focus on serious issues.
They said that they were coming from a place of somebody just trying to make their way into the industry, and criticised anyone who is trying to support a family, or run a business. So many people in these comments are such choice listeners it's crazy. If you need to support anybody but yourself, they said it would be smart to live outside of SF. They also brought up a term of the landlord not being able to increase your rent, even if the market changes (I forget the word because I don't hear it too often), Nick has that set up, and Tim said he is so lucky to have that. But yeah, just keep drowning out all of their criticism (which they admitted they were harping on SF for a long time) and start another war in the comment section.
It doesn't come completely from the local area. The temperate weather in a mega city means its almost the most desirable place in the US for homeless. It looks really bad because they pull from all over the country. I wish they had better plan though.
You're right in that the city does nothing for the homeless. The biggest and most disgusting waste of money in this city is the over 3/4 billion dollars funneled to the 3 ecumenical-centered non-profits who essentially keep the homeless unhoused, while maintaining their hugely bloated administrative structures and the DMV-esque laissez-faire workforce of "gobment" lazytards employed and intact.
I lived there for 3 years. the City cost way to much, is super filthy, full of people that think they are better than you, and full of crazy people and homeless people. I'm so glad to not be there any more.
Exactly. Tim has a bias from living there his whole life, and he seems to have the other guys under his spell. He's a great convincer, and that's the reason I'm sure they haven't moved.
@@TopCheeseBarDown Tim literally came across as a person who doesn't care if he's in San Fran for much longer. All of his old buddies are moving further out from the city, and Nick was the one who said he love all the friends he has there, him and his wife are content with their living arrangement, and he loves his lifestyle. Why are so many people in this comment section so twisted, as if they're listening to a different podcast?
So i live near palm springs and i paid close to 2000 at one point for an luxury appartment and it was a 2 bedroom, 2 bathrooms, heated pool,spa,sauna,gym all inside the complex if your paying all that money with no perks what are you guys doing out there
@@johnellis4334 Sounded a lot like you were judging what they're doing there in general. & Nick answered your question, he said he loves the San Francisco lifestyle, and he has tons of friends there he wouldn't want to leave behind.
cost of living in SF is way beyond real estate / rent. Just visited for a week and I couldn't believe the prices on gasoline, on bread and lunchmeat, on ground beef or chicken breast. Eating out cost the same as buying groceries. I couldn't wait to get out of CA.
Probably not a good idea to have 2 of the 4 people talking about financial inclusion or exclusion when they easily make six-figures a year (easily). It’s a bad look. They can’t identify with this enough to know what a regular person struggles with and are priced out of their home.
I would say it's fair considering San Francisco offers so much more opportunity to advance your career and have a high paying salary compared to many areas of the country.
visiting San Francisco from Melbourne (another fairly expensive city) I can say that it is definitely the most overpriced for what you get experience I have ever had from a city
To put it in prospective for you guys and not counting the differences of cost of living, my family and I are renting to own a four bedroom house in Texas for the exact amount that Tim is paying for his apartment per month. Good God California is crazy. I would just say go to Austin.
Rich, old, home-owning NIMBYs are why the Bay Area is so expensive. Housing construction is a stupidly long process to go through, huge swaths of the city are zoned exclusively for single-family houses, so barely any units get built.
We had Ray Tracing also up in the Facebook Group and I wrote a long explanation about Ray Tracing and stuff. Most of them was explained quite well by Andy, but I think I just post it here again. (In my old university in Saarbrücken, we have had several computer graphics groups that were researching real-time ray tracing applications 10-15 years ago, when I was studying. I also had several lectures and seminars on that topic, so I went back to some of material from back in the day to boil everything down to the nitty-gritty. Over there we had projects like rendering the inside of a Boeing 777 with several millions of triangles in real-time or later some student re-wrote the rendering engine of Quake III with Ray-Tracing. That student then ended up at Intel and is continuing his research over there, I think up to now.) So... it all boils down to the rendering techniques rasterisation and ray tracing. But let me first explain rendering first. Given a 3D object or mesh that has a given texture that is applied to it (that means we can associate color values at the surface of the object) is set in a scene. This 3D scene is to be projected to a 2D image plane, i.e. the image that is output on the screen. Within this scene are different light sources, like lamps or the sun or other objects that cast light into the scene. With rasterisation, the image considers the pixels of the output image and which 3D objects are being projected per pixel. To this end, the texture of the object and the light that is cast on it directly is being considered. With ray tracing, this gets a little more complicated. Consider again the set of pixels of the output image. Now think that rays are being shot into a scene. Once it hits an object, however, it follows the incident angle into the scene. This ray now may hit other objects until it eventually hits a lightsource. Usually, as with rasterisation point-light-sources light an object directly, but some objects have certain material properties that allow additional bounces of a light ray (also the strength diminishes after several bounces). With these properties in mind it is possible to render realistic shadow boundaries, transparent objects or realistic reflections. Here the idea is to model an ideal representation of global illumination. In general, as each bounce creates several additional rays into a scene, this may generate lots and lots of computations needed to compute the incident light onto an object, so those computations had been done mostly within a large computer cluster infrastructure... and real-time applications had been done only within a network cluster of off-the-shelf-computers in the last 10-15 years. Now, processing power seems to have been increased in the last couple of years and those ray tracing computations have been optimized together with additional hardware that now fits into a convenient (but expensive) graphics card or CPU (Intel is also introducing Ray-Tracing in their processors as well). Graphics cards of today are basically thousands of small little mini processors that can be tasked with large amounts of small computations. Those computations can be done in parallel which is helpful for ray tracing, because most of the calculations are basically computing hit points of rays within a scene with objects and following the trajectory of light towards their points of origin. If my 10-minute re-research on the today's methods for ray tracing is correct, then Nvidia's approach is to make the graphics card as good and parallelisable as possible whereas Intel also includes CPUs for their Xe Server architecture... but whereas Nvidia is providing this technology for gamers and scientists, I think Intel is focussing more on the entertainment business, i.e. Animation studios like Pixar or Dreamworks Animation. This is basically the idea behind ray tracing, why it has been the holy grail of rendering and why it has been difficult to apply this to games up to this point.
Not every wants/can deal with replacing items that break down, it can be nice when something breaks to call the owner/leaser and let them deal with the expense.
@@CheefChaos I feel that's a shit excuse for people making good money like KF is. We know they make money based on their patreon numbers, and like they said in this episode, if you make under $100,000 you're in a poverty level and no one made a joke that they're in the poverty level, so it's safe to assume they make 100,000+ which makes sense considering their patreons are probably at $50,000/month combined.
DestructableMe still doesn’t change the fact that owning property is better financially. And with most cases a mortgage payment is a lot less then a renting a month. And you get equity in the house when you own so you can sell later on and make potentially huge profit.
Really great episode. Ive always found San Francisco a hard place to figure out based off of what Ive heard before, but its really fascinating to hear all your perspectives on it.
My brother went to the art institute up there. Homeless people were all around his building he was staying at. Now he sees aliens and hears voices.....SF changed him for the worse....
Tim just has a "trees amongst the forest" perspective on SF. And, there is NOTHING wrong with that. It's his hometown and where he grew up. He's going to vouch for it. I do disagree with his "networking" and "just figure it out" mentality, but... To each his/her own. Tim is a highly motivated person with a one track mind. He only knows what he's experienced and how he lives. I don't think he should get killed for that.
I get where he's coming from but yeah "putting in the work" is probably not possible for some people or might as well be impossible when u have the whole system against u
If your dream city is pricing you out of living there, there's nothing that can be done until it drives people away and declines (both in worth and pricing). You can't build a San Fran adjacent, a New San across from the old and make it truly affordable as well as holding the same old culture/moments. Sad. $110,000 can go a long way in an out of the way place, living light royalty in isolation. Get enough people together, you can build quite the gateway community and at least make a new town (not city), much like the film festival cities but without the annoying annual tourism.
Thank you for always being positive & trying to provide some solution for people looking Tim. I know you guys don't look at the comments (for good reason) anymore, but know that even if it may seem unrealistic to some, the voice of positivity get's through to somebody.
It comes down to what you want out of life really. People like the KF crew live in cities like SF or NY because that's the hub for what they do. Their friends are there and everything you could want is within a train, car, bike ride distance. Its expensive but that's the trade off. As to where you live there probably isnt shit around for miles but you get a sizable house, land, beautiful view and peace. Priorities I guess.
Watch The Last Black Man in San Francisco and then have the conversation again. Ironic the message of that movie compared to this episode. I like you guys a lot, but there was almost no good advice in here. I have an extremely high quality of life with all of the things Nick and Tim explained about SF. I live in SLC and sure, the nightlife is not the same and there isn’t as great of a food scene, but the other perks and money I save is completely worth it. It’s an amazing city to live in for millennials, families, anyone really. Idk it just feels like they’ve been in their bubble for a really long time.
SLC doesn't remotely come close to offering the lifestyle options that San Francisco does. It's fine if you don't personally care about the benefits that SF provides and many people don't, but for those that do care SLC would be a miserable place to live in comparison.
BlueDream I’ve lived in SF too as well, I’m aware. I mostly wanted to highlight that you can have a high standard of living in almost any city in the US, without having to spend or lose money along the way.
At what point does this podcast reach a level of funny even approaching "kinda"? As a comedian, this episode is the Today sponges of umbrellas in a menstrual monsoon.
Lol it's people like Tim that has many life long Democrat voters rethinking their choice. Once the current president is gone, look for Democrats to split between San Francisco Democrats and centrist Democrats (working people) I was born and raised in San Jose (silicon valley) And have watched this crew for a decade plus (on other shows too) But it really does seem some times like some in this crew are becoming increasingly out of touch and becoming the thing that "outsiders" (people outside these small bubbles) say people in San Francisco are. I know for certain as a liberal leaning person living in the bay area that I'm not the only one that thinks this (about the whole "San Francisco culture"). More and more people can't relate to people based in San Francisco at all.. yes, they're still subscribers, but they scroll past the videos instead of pressing "play' right away like they may have in the past.
And again, I scroll down to make one joke & the comment section is filled with bandwagoning to hate on Tim..... *sigh* this is what got him off of Screencast I think, but worst of all nobody ever criticizes what anybody else says, it's always Tim's stupid, Tim's wrong, Tim's so privileged. Greg basically said the exact same thing, but in his own Missouri way. I'm not saying go & jump down everyone's throats, but come on guys, he's had different experiences than me too, but that doesn't mean I'm going to trash on the guy every chance I get. We would all be saying the same thing as him if we lived the same life that he did. He's just speaking from experience, not some random article like Nick & Kevin, and not from a very lucky position like Andy. They all have pro's & cons to what they're saying, enough with the hatred for Tim.
Tim is such a hustling schemer lol I dont think he realizes how good he is at things like that and what he calls "just looking" for a lot of people is a very difficult thing to do. I've spent hours researching things and told a friend my best result, and he found one better in like 5 minutes just because he is good at that kind of thing. Not to mention you say it's not that expensive, just live with people or in a garage. In other cities that's like considered being a bum practically lol.
SF is one of my FAVORITE places in the world (I'm a central California native) and it breaks my heart that SF is becoming what it is, but I agree with Tim. Step up. Support local businesses and say something when it's crunch time. And always remember what goes up must come down. What was once good can be good again.
Love how the first five minutes consist of drink ordering over the phone. This is why I watch
I'm from Australia and I met Jared Petty a few months ago at GDC. When I told him it was my first time in San Francisco and specifically the States he said "Oh, I'm so sorry this is your introduction to the US" haha
Tim "Just network" Getty's. Yes, that will solve all of life's problems.
BlueHighlander yeah. That was super tone deaf
@@LimitBreak I like Tim a lot but this whole episode was rough...
while i agree with the sentiment, networking does solve alot of problems that money cant solve
If you really do like him a lot, and don't want to crap on him like everyone else in most of their videos comment sections, why would you define as one thing "Tim Just Network Getty's", dude lived a different life than me, and so did many other successful people, I'm not going to sit & whine about it & fault them for it.
At least Tim tries to admit his "warped perspective" about how expensive it is to live in SF, but no offense, "networking" is not gonna work for everyone. His privileges as a SF native is pouring out and making him come off as naive and foolish. I love you Tim, but even you need to admit that SF is outrageously expensive. I was there once for PSX and was appalled by how much not only gas was, but food in general.
I can’t imagine paying $2,000 for rent...
Welcome to the bay area where big tech has made living here without a 6 figure income very difficult
@@pjuster2 It's the NIMBYs that make it difficult. Everyone who bought a house in the 60s/70s for cheap thinks that that gives them the right to deny any additional housing to be built to accommodate new people, because it would hurt their property values. If SF didn't cater to the demands of homeowners, then it would be capable of growing to accommodate many more people than it currently houses; maybe enough to rival NYC.
I pay 2100 for a two bedroom bro, not even San Diego, prices are wild man
@@pjuster2 Which confuses me why KF is still there. I get it for those that are in the tech industry and need to live there to thrive, but KF doesn't need to at all. In fact I think they are hindered by being in SF.
Lucky to get 1br in Seattle for $2000! Even 50mi away it’s $1500+
It actually blows my mind that these "internet celebrities" are renting. Do they not understand that's literally just throwing money down a drain? If they move out of this city they could each get their own HOUSE (not apartment) and have a solid investment for their future (it's possible KF dries up somewhere down the line). Except they all seem to buy into the "culture" of SF, as if NO OTHER CITY could ever have culture. It's a great marketing ploy to keep people in the city though. Make them feel like nothing is better outside of SF. I hope someday they'll realize how ridiculous it is that they're renting in a city they have zero reason to be in. They could probably get even better guests by moving to Santa Monica or somewhere closer to LA like Colin did, not to mention they'd have far more opportunities outside of strictly gaming. They aren't a tech company and they aren't a game company, they're a podcast company, so I'm not sure why they're still in SF paying ludicrous amounts of money TO RENT. It surprises me how hard it is to get Tim to move CLOSER to Disneyland, where he could get an annual pass and go to his heart's content.
Yeah, spot on. Its fucking stupid. If you are relatively successful and making a bit money, if you rent you might aswell lit your money on fire.
I honestly wanna know whats their plan for their future, because this shit is not sustainable. I think? Move the fuck out, invest in a house and save money.
Are the second coming of Christ? 'Cause this comment is heavenly correct.
You just deconstructed this whole podcast episode with two paragraphs :)
I know I'm super late but you're 100% correct. I think they're not moving out because of Tim. He doesn't want to leave the city and now that he has setup that stupid home theater, even less chance of them moving. For some reason HE's the one running the company, the dumbest of the group. After all he was the one who convinced the group to spend a stupid amount of money for that useless LED wall(something he gets super insecure over every time it's mentioned, just like SF). I miss Colin calling him out on that. Tim is literally sinking this company.
Telling people to "Just Network" to find a place to live is something I don't agree with. That may work for a young person or someone new to the city, but what if you're someone who has been doing all of the right things. You've been smart with you're money, you've been living at or below your means, and then you get kicked out of your place because rent is increased. Or what if you have a family. Should that family just network to find a place to live? I agree that people need to be better with their money and not live above their means. Other than that tho, I think Tim is COMPLETELY out of touch. I appauld you all for bring up the topic tho. I like when you all take a break from the funny to focus on serious issues.
They said that they were coming from a place of somebody just trying to make their way into the industry, and criticised anyone who is trying to support a family, or run a business. So many people in these comments are such choice listeners it's crazy. If you need to support anybody but yourself, they said it would be smart to live outside of SF. They also brought up a term of the landlord not being able to increase your rent, even if the market changes (I forget the word because I don't hear it too often), Nick has that set up, and Tim said he is so lucky to have that. But yeah, just keep drowning out all of their criticism (which they admitted they were harping on SF for a long time) and start another war in the comment section.
San Fran is crazy expensive and their homeless population is continually rising; while doing nothing to help them. 😞
It doesn't come completely from the local area. The temperate weather in a mega city means its almost the most desirable place in the US for homeless. It looks really bad because they pull from all over the country. I wish they had better plan though.
You're right in that the city does nothing for the homeless. The biggest and most disgusting waste of money in this city is the over 3/4 billion dollars funneled to the 3 ecumenical-centered non-profits who essentially keep the homeless unhoused, while maintaining their hugely bloated administrative structures and the DMV-esque laissez-faire workforce of "gobment" lazytards employed and intact.
I lived there for 3 years. the City cost way to much, is super filthy, full of people that think they are better than you, and full of crazy people and homeless people. I'm so glad to not be there any more.
Exactly. Tim has a bias from living there his whole life, and he seems to have the other guys under his spell. He's a great convincer, and that's the reason I'm sure they haven't moved.
SF being full of people who think they're better than you is the perfect description for Tim this episode.
@@TopCheeseBarDown Tim literally came across as a person who doesn't care if he's in San Fran for much longer. All of his old buddies are moving further out from the city, and Nick was the one who said he love all the friends he has there, him and his wife are content with their living arrangement, and he loves his lifestyle. Why are so many people in this comment section so twisted, as if they're listening to a different podcast?
I love how nick can step up a joke to take it over the line. And I love it so much. Do you nick do you
You know its gonna be a good one when Andy is already laughing when they start 😂
So i live near palm springs and i paid close to 2000 at one point for an luxury appartment and it was a 2 bedroom, 2 bathrooms, heated pool,spa,sauna,gym all inside the complex if your paying all that money with no perks what are you guys doing out there
Running a successful business with tons of friends who help them?
@@SaiyanABlazeNinja uhh Duh i was talking about their living situation not work
@@johnellis4334 Sounded a lot like you were judging what they're doing there in general.
& Nick answered your question, he said he loves the San Francisco lifestyle, and he has tons of friends there he wouldn't want to leave behind.
@@SaiyanABlazeNinja i think you took me too literal buddy i was speaking in general buddy calm down
cost of living in SF is way beyond real estate / rent. Just visited for a week and I couldn't believe the prices on gasoline, on bread and lunchmeat, on ground beef or chicken breast. Eating out cost the same as buying groceries. I couldn't wait to get out of CA.
Probably not a good idea to have 2 of the 4 people talking about financial inclusion or exclusion when they easily make six-figures a year (easily). It’s a bad look. They can’t identify with this enough to know what a regular person struggles with and are priced out of their home.
I would say it's fair considering San Francisco offers so much more opportunity to advance your career and have a high paying salary compared to many areas of the country.
Imagine if they all had to buy all the games they play too $$$?
visiting San Francisco from Melbourne (another fairly expensive city) I can say that it is definitely the most overpriced for what you get experience I have ever had from a city
As an introvert, needing roommates to be able to live in a city sounds fucking miserable.
I love when people mention Nebraska. makes me feel like people know me for some reason.
I’m from Wisconsin, and same thing. People so rarely talk about my state.
1:05:32 Nick: "You bring the popcorn, I'll bring the pickle" XD Oh my God! How did everyone not burst out laughing at that moment!!
Tim is out of touch with reality.
Tim is consistent with who he is. He's never changed & has always been who he is.
Tim is why this channel has been 200k subs for the last 5 years.
FaceValue LMAO
To put it in prospective for you guys and not counting the differences of cost of living, my family and I are renting to own a four bedroom house in Texas for the exact amount that Tim is paying for his apartment per month. Good God California is crazy. I would just say go to Austin.
It's not Cali, it's SF. Colin talked about how much money he saved having his own place once he moved to Santa Monica.
Rich, old, home-owning NIMBYs are why the Bay Area is so expensive. Housing construction is a stupidly long process to go through, huge swaths of the city are zoned exclusively for single-family houses, so barely any units get built.
Also renting is literally just burning money and lord knows how expensive rent is a month in SF.
double rims suck but if you can shoot on them in the wind you can shoot anywhere
I halfway thought Greg was gonna say cocaine when reading those drink ingredients.
We had Ray Tracing also up in the Facebook Group and I wrote a long explanation about Ray Tracing and stuff. Most of them was explained quite well by Andy, but I think I just post it here again. (In my old university in Saarbrücken, we have had several computer graphics groups that were researching real-time ray tracing applications 10-15 years ago, when I was studying. I also had several lectures and seminars on that topic, so I went back to some of material from back in the day to boil everything down to the nitty-gritty. Over there we had projects like rendering the inside of a Boeing 777 with several millions of triangles in real-time or later some student re-wrote the rendering engine of Quake III with Ray-Tracing. That student then ended up at Intel and is continuing his research over there, I think up to now.)
So... it all boils down to the rendering techniques rasterisation and ray tracing.
But let me first explain rendering first. Given a 3D object or mesh that has a given texture that is applied to it (that means we can associate color values at the surface of the object) is set in a scene. This 3D scene is to be projected to a 2D image plane, i.e. the image that is output on the screen. Within this scene are different light sources, like lamps or the sun or other objects that cast light into the scene.
With rasterisation, the image considers the pixels of the output image and which 3D objects are being projected per pixel. To this end, the texture of the object and the light that is cast on it directly is being considered.
With ray tracing, this gets a little more complicated. Consider again the set of pixels of the output image. Now think that rays are being shot into a scene. Once it hits an object, however, it follows the incident angle into the scene. This ray now may hit other objects until it eventually hits a lightsource. Usually, as with rasterisation point-light-sources light an object directly, but some objects have certain material properties that allow additional bounces of a light ray (also the strength diminishes after several bounces). With these properties in mind it is possible to render realistic shadow boundaries, transparent objects or realistic reflections. Here the idea is to model an ideal representation of global illumination.
In general, as each bounce creates several additional rays into a scene, this may generate lots and lots of computations needed to compute the incident light onto an object, so those computations had been done mostly within a large computer cluster infrastructure... and real-time applications had been done only within a network cluster of off-the-shelf-computers in the last 10-15 years.
Now, processing power seems to have been increased in the last couple of years and those ray tracing computations have been optimized together with additional hardware that now fits into a convenient (but expensive) graphics card or CPU (Intel is also introducing Ray-Tracing in their processors as well).
Graphics cards of today are basically thousands of small little mini processors that can be tasked with large amounts of small computations. Those computations can be done in parallel which is helpful for ray tracing, because most of the calculations are basically computing hit points of rays within a scene with objects and following the trajectory of light towards their points of origin. If my 10-minute re-research on the today's methods for ray tracing is correct, then Nvidia's approach is to make the graphics card as good and parallelisable as possible whereas Intel also includes CPUs for their Xe Server architecture... but whereas Nvidia is providing this technology for gamers and scientists, I think Intel is focussing more on the entertainment business, i.e. Animation studios like Pixar or Dreamworks Animation.
This is basically the idea behind ray tracing, why it has been the holy grail of rendering and why it has been difficult to apply this to games up to this point.
Tim sounded so tone deaf this episode.
It’s always nice hearing behind the scenes work like Nick with AE and Andy with PS. Keep killing it, awesome episode 🤟
You guys gotta try reign. I was a "bang" guy. Now I'm onto reign, its better than bang and its got the potency of red bull. So good!
Renting is throwing away money I understand it’s necessary for some people. But owning a place has much better rewards and is a lot smarter.
Not every wants/can deal with replacing items that break down, it can be nice when something breaks to call the owner/leaser and let them deal with the expense.
@@CheefChaos I feel that's a shit excuse for people making good money like KF is. We know they make money based on their patreon numbers, and like they said in this episode, if you make under $100,000 you're in a poverty level and no one made a joke that they're in the poverty level, so it's safe to assume they make 100,000+ which makes sense considering their patreons are probably at $50,000/month combined.
DestructableMe still doesn’t change the fact that owning property is better financially. And with most cases a mortgage payment is a lot less then a renting a month. And you get equity in the house when you own so you can sell later on and make potentially huge profit.
Cool Greg The Delivery Man
$1800 for rent? Fuck that!
Watch "The Last Black Man in San Francisco" and answer this question yourself.
Was around SF for WM31 went there the monday after and am planning to go back whenever KFL4 happens!
As much as I’m going to enjoy this podcast, I can answer right off the bat, yes! San Fran is too fucking expensive! Lol!
Hi! I'm from the future. About Cyberpunk...um...
Andy has been watching a lot of Joe Rogan because he's been saying "a buddy of mine " a lot heh
Really great episode. Ive always found San Francisco a hard place to figure out based off of what Ive heard before, but its really fascinating to hear all your perspectives on it.
Andy needs to talk about his 3D character art background and knowledge more. As an aspiring character artist myself I enjoy it alot haha.
San Francisco is hell on earth I wouldn’t make my worst enemy live there.
In kansas City we are starting to approach 1000 a month in some of the nicer areas and thats fucking crazy to us. My parents pay like 500 a month
My brother went to the art institute up there. Homeless people were all around his building he was staying at. Now he sees aliens and hears voices.....SF changed him for the worse....
I have never heard of RIPS i guess its a west coast thing.
1:14:45 right, okay. Now I have to replace two of my photos. Great!
I'm surprised they haven't talked about the allegations surrounding max landis
I've been wondering this myself.
I’m not
Tim just has a "trees amongst the forest" perspective on SF. And, there is NOTHING wrong with that. It's his hometown and where he grew up. He's going to vouch for it. I do disagree with his "networking" and "just figure it out" mentality, but... To each his/her own. Tim is a highly motivated person with a one track mind. He only knows what he's experienced and how he lives. I don't think he should get killed for that.
Ooof this episode Tim did not come off great.
I get where he's coming from but yeah "putting in the work" is probably not possible for some people or might as well be impossible when u have the whole system against u
The end perked my ears
Why does Tim hate Oakland and east bay sooo much?
What are they referencing when they lose it?
they need to start doing timestamps
San Fran's a great city, but I'd never live there, even if I could afford to.
If your dream city is pricing you out of living there, there's nothing that can be done until it drives people away and declines (both in worth and pricing). You can't build a San Fran adjacent, a New San across from the old and make it truly affordable as well as holding the same old culture/moments. Sad. $110,000 can go a long way in an out of the way place, living light royalty in isolation. Get enough people together, you can build quite the gateway community and at least make a new town (not city), much like the film festival cities but without the annoying annual tourism.
Someone needs to do some Daddy Andy photoshop for KFAF
Omg this is such a great conversation and topic, l also live here in San Francisco and I vouch for most of what was discussed.
Thank you for always being positive & trying to provide some solution for people looking Tim. I know you guys don't look at the comments (for good reason) anymore, but know that even if it may seem unrealistic to some, the voice of positivity get's through to somebody.
Cool Greg is just a badass.
What a show! Well done boys!
Daddy Andy
Using a $ in $an Fransisco!
🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 So genius
Hey. I've been hang-gliding before, Nick.
I'm going in two weeks!
Tall Todd crossed you back into the shadow realm eh Andy?
1:12:09
I have a big 4 bedroom 3 bathroom house and my mortgage is less then Tim pays for rent lol just live in OR people :)
It comes down to what you want out of life really. People like the KF crew live in cities like SF or NY because that's the hub for what they do. Their friends are there and everything you could want is within a train, car, bike ride distance. Its expensive but that's the trade off. As to where you live there probably isnt shit around for miles but you get a sizable house, land, beautiful view and peace. Priorities I guess.
Lmao how do you know where Nick lives
Tim hasn’t lived enough life for me to take any of his opinions seriously. And it’s really been dragging KF down lately.
Watch The Last Black Man in San Francisco and then have the conversation again. Ironic the message of that movie compared to this episode.
I like you guys a lot, but there was almost no good advice in here. I have an extremely high quality of life with all of the things Nick and Tim explained about SF. I live in SLC and sure, the nightlife is not the same and there isn’t as great of a food scene, but the other perks and money I save is completely worth it. It’s an amazing city to live in for millennials, families, anyone really.
Idk it just feels like they’ve been in their bubble for a really long time.
SLC doesn't remotely come close to offering the lifestyle options that San Francisco does. It's fine if you don't personally care about the benefits that SF provides and many people don't, but for those that do care SLC would be a miserable place to live in comparison.
BlueDream I’ve lived in SF too as well, I’m aware. I mostly wanted to highlight that you can have a high standard of living in almost any city in the US, without having to spend or lose money along the way.
Yeah, because out of all of them, Kevin is for sure the one that needs to eat until he hates himself. Makes sense.
At what point does this podcast reach a level of funny even approaching "kinda"? As a comedian, this episode is the Today sponges of umbrellas in a menstrual monsoon.
“Andy, touch it...”
-Tim Gettys
Lol it's people like Tim that has many life long Democrat voters rethinking their choice. Once the current president is gone, look for Democrats to split between San Francisco Democrats and centrist Democrats (working people)
I was born and raised in San Jose (silicon valley)
And have watched this crew for a decade plus (on other shows too)
But it really does seem some times like some in this crew are becoming increasingly out of touch and becoming the thing that "outsiders" (people outside these small bubbles) say people in San Francisco are.
I know for certain as a liberal leaning person living in the bay area that I'm not the only one that thinks this (about the whole "San Francisco culture").
More and more people can't relate to people based in San Francisco at all.. yes, they're still subscribers, but they scroll past the videos instead of pressing "play' right away like they may have in the past.
And again, I scroll down to make one joke & the comment section is filled with bandwagoning to hate on Tim.....
*sigh* this is what got him off of Screencast I think, but worst of all nobody ever criticizes what anybody else says, it's always Tim's stupid, Tim's wrong, Tim's so privileged. Greg basically said the exact same thing, but in his own Missouri way. I'm not saying go & jump down everyone's throats, but come on guys, he's had different experiences than me too, but that doesn't mean I'm going to trash on the guy every chance I get. We would all be saying the same thing as him if we lived the same life that he did. He's just speaking from experience, not some random article like Nick & Kevin, and not from a very lucky position like Andy. They all have pro's & cons to what they're saying, enough with the hatred for Tim.
Tim is such a hustling schemer lol I dont think he realizes how good he is at things like that and what he calls "just looking" for a lot of people is a very difficult thing to do. I've spent hours researching things and told a friend my best result, and he found one better in like 5 minutes just because he is good at that kind of thing.
Not to mention you say it's not that expensive, just live with people or in a garage. In other cities that's like considered being a bum practically lol.
I miss GOG
SF is one of my FAVORITE places in the world (I'm a central California native) and it breaks my heart that SF is becoming what it is, but I agree with Tim. Step up. Support local businesses and say something when it's crunch time. And always remember what goes up must come down. What was once good can be good again.
Remember when these were 2 hours long? smh