Human anatomy decides that your downward kick is much more powerful than your upward kick. When facing down, that kick will send you back to water surface quickly, unless you adjust the angle deliberately, which would sacrifice a little forward speed. Another swimmer with strong underwater kicks, Michael Phelps, chose to be on the side for a longer period during the turn, so that he could stay underwater longer. Lochte went one step further by being on his back. That's ingenious.
Just to clarify: the turn WAS NOT illegal. It became illegal only some years ago, but when he did it, it was totally legal, that's why he was not disqualified. The rule was introduced only after all of these swims.
OK so what happened was that when Lochte did this, it was still legal cus the rules were a bit vague, so it was still allowed, but after this incident, FINA clarified its rules and said that this is no longer allowed for IM races, but it is still allowed for freestyle races
@@aldinapo6472 well there arent a lot of rules for freestyle. 1. You have to start from the starting block (except for masters events) 2. You cant dive further than 15 m 3. You can touch the ground but not walk on it or push from it How you swim is completely free ^-^
true. except in the freestyle part of the medley where you must swim a stroke other than backstroke, breaststroke or butterfly. FINA criticized LOCHTE for staying on his back after the turn, as in the backstroke part. But we don't blame swimmers for staying face down like a butterfly… Weird!
true. except in the freestyle part of the medley where you must swim a stroke other than backstroke, breaststroke or butterfly. FINA criticized LOCHTE for staying on his back after the turn, as in the backstroke part. But we don't blame swimmers for staying face down like a butterfly… Weird!
According to SW 9.1 each of the strokes must cover one quarter (1/4) of the distance. Being on the back when leaving the wall for the Freestyle portion of the Ind. Medley is covering more than one quarter of the distance in the style of Backstroke and is, therefore, a disqualification.
@@Oncer_Soldier_ by kicking on your back it's easier to stay underwater longer as the kicks send you down, whereas conventional kicking will bring you to the surface faster
According to SW 9.1 each of the strokes must cover one quarter (1/4) of the distance. Being on the back when leaving the wall for the Freestyle portion of the Ind. Medley is covering more than one quarter of the distance in the style of Backstroke and is, therefore, a disqualification. Backstroke swimming is only defined as being on the back. See also SW 5.1, SW 6.1 - SW 6.5, SW 7.1 to 7.6, SW 8.1 - 8.5
@@brian7108 lol there's a reason he's the only one that does it, it's because that kickign on his back was just that much faster for him compared to on his stomach, but most people don't have the underwater discipline that him and phelps had to pull this off
so named after world champ Ryan could not do it in the freestyle portions of IM races, which require exactly 1/4th of the race to be swum in each stroke.
It's time for "freestyle" to be officially called "crawl" and for a 5th stroke to give swimmers the freedom to give free rein to their creativity. Remember BERKOFF and PANKRATOV...
FINA rule SW 9.2 says it’s ok to turn onto your back you just can’t stroke or kick until your on your front, but I don’t know if a dolphin counts because it’s not really a kick is more of a body undulation
No. I guess after Lochte did that they made it very clear diving on your back is only legal in backstroke and freestyle (as long as its not the freestyle- quarter in the IM) races
The rule is not well thought out. Doing a dolphin kick chest down is the same as the butterfly underwater. So, by the logic of the current rule, that should be illegal as well.
All he did was use what was advantageous for him, his talent and skill level. So all this does is tell swimmers is to use less of your talent and more drugs... ehem, supplements 😃😃😃
underwater: dolphin kicks back are faster than dolphin kicks front, and faster than breaststroke kick. The explication is in the French book: "Nager en apnée" Edit Adverbum 2020
Why someone thought it was their right to make this turn illegal in freestyle is beyond me. Freestyle should be whatever you want. Today wrong to take this away from Lochte. David marsh and I have had conversations about this. It's very unfair and wrong.
Freestyle ! You can swim anystroke in a Freestyle race, so in effect it's not illegal ,he could swim first length freestyle and transition into backstroke .
Backstroke is any stroke swum on the back, including while underwater. It's illegal to do any kick underwater after the turn to the freestyle portion if the kick is while the swimmer is past vertical towards the back.
Only illegal in the end of the medley... just to have a 4th stroke (different from the 3 others). But when swimmers are kicking on the front during the « freestyle », they do like the kicking front of the fly. So we can say that the illegality is only to stop innovation. Fantastic Lochte turn!!! I hope he still make it during his freestyle races
Ridiculous and outside the spirit of the term 'freestyle'. Bsn the suits, don't ban new skills. If this bunch of crusty bureaucrats was around when butterfly was invented we wouldn't have butterfly.
According to SW 9.1 each of the strokes must cover one quarter (1/4) of the distance. Being on the back when leaving the wall for the Freestyle portion of the Ind. Medley is covering more than one quarter of the distance in the style of Backstroke and is, therefore, a disqualification. Backstroke swimming is only defined as being on the back. See also SW 5.1, SW 6.1 - SW 6.5, SW 7.1 to 7.6, SW 8.1 - 8.5
The rule you’re thinking of only applies in IM. You can kick on your back in freestyle
This is now banned and they even named after him 😂
@@zhao4113 that kick even banned in freestyle now?
@@ycy6188 i beileve yea they said because it was too good
@@zhao4113 I believe it is only illegal in the IM still, last I checked it was still legal in the freestyle.
@@savageswimmer that’s right
Human anatomy decides that your downward kick is much more powerful than your upward kick. When facing down, that kick will send you back to water surface quickly, unless you adjust the angle deliberately, which would sacrifice a little forward speed.
Another swimmer with strong underwater kicks, Michael Phelps, chose to be on the side for a longer period during the turn, so that he could stay underwater longer. Lochte went one step further by being on his back. That's ingenious.
Just to clarify: the turn WAS NOT illegal. It became illegal only some years ago, but when he did it, it was totally legal, that's why he was not disqualified. The rule was introduced only after all of these swims.
@Luc Collard can you pin this comment or something?
Illegal only in medley just after this competition (2015 Kazan)
So not illegal, got it
@Evan Dykstra illegal in medley not in freestyle as the comment say 😉
@@lucstaps So your title is wrong 😉
OK so what happened was that when Lochte did this, it was still legal cus the rules were a bit vague, so it was still allowed, but after this incident, FINA clarified its rules and said that this is no longer allowed for IM races, but it is still allowed for freestyle races
it really is? where can i check it?
So basically every event except IM?
(I wouldn’t do it in fly events 😂)
Yes
@@aldinapo6472 well there arent a lot of rules for freestyle.
1. You have to start from the starting block (except for masters events)
2. You cant dive further than 15 m
3. You can touch the ground but not walk on it or push from it
How you swim is completely free ^-^
Ya'll do realize that, for freestyle, you are allowed to swim literally ANY stroke you want, right?
true. except in the freestyle part of the medley where you must swim a stroke other than backstroke, breaststroke or butterfly. FINA criticized LOCHTE for staying on his back after the turn, as in the backstroke part. But we don't blame swimmers for staying face down like a butterfly… Weird!
true. except in the freestyle part of the medley where you must swim a stroke other than backstroke, breaststroke or butterfly. FINA criticized LOCHTE for staying on his back after the turn, as in the backstroke part. But we don't blame swimmers for staying face down like a butterfly… Weird!
I used to do something I called the jellyfish.
According to SW 9.1 each of the strokes must cover one quarter (1/4) of the distance. Being on the back when leaving the wall for the Freestyle portion of the Ind. Medley is covering more than one quarter of the distance in the style of Backstroke and is, therefore, a disqualification.
Lochte always said he was better kicking on his back
I dont know how that is possible but I see that xD
@@Oncer_Soldier_ by kicking on your back it's easier to stay underwater longer as the kicks send you down, whereas conventional kicking will bring you to the surface faster
You're right. This is what the tracks in the video inlay say
According to SW 9.1 each of the strokes must cover one quarter (1/4) of the distance. Being on the back when leaving the wall for the Freestyle portion of the Ind. Medley is covering more than one quarter of the distance in the style of Backstroke and is, therefore, a disqualification. Backstroke swimming is only defined as being on the back. See also SW 5.1, SW 6.1 - SW 6.5, SW 7.1 to 7.6, SW 8.1 - 8.5
It's more complicated than that when it comes to the freestyle part of the Medley... read the rules carefully (reminded in the comments)
They are all doing the double kick in the IM
Hey what year was this video? Because Lochte also did this in the 4x200 freestyle relay at the 2016 Olympics.
2015 😉
It’s not illegal for freestyle tho
@@brian7108 that's interesting, should I try this in my next freestyle race?
@@ericji7226 sure! I depends if it’s faster for you though! I never friend it on my back
@@brian7108 lol there's a reason he's the only one that does it, it's because that kickign on his back was just that much faster for him compared to on his stomach, but most people don't have the underwater discipline that him and phelps had to pull this off
Someone know the song title?
we do 50s 2 each stroke kick out to mid pool and i always do that for free but it’s not a meet
You can do that in a freestyle race. Please do that when you are faster on your back 😅I think its quite fascinating
@@Oncer_Soldier_ dont worry about me u little kid
It's not ilegal in freestyle. The fina rule applies only in Medley.
so named after world champ Ryan could not do it in the freestyle portions of IM races, which require exactly 1/4th of the race to be swum in each stroke.
Essa virada é sensacional!!
It's time for "freestyle" to be officially called "crawl" and for a 5th stroke to give swimmers the freedom to give free rein to their creativity. Remember BERKOFF and PANKRATOV...
Wait so to clarify can we do this kick rn in 2020 2021?
yes, but not during IM events
After each turn,he pass every opponent
One of the best underwater in dolphin kicking!
Hope he can perform in Tokyo 👍🏼🙏🏻
@@lucstaps i think he is better than Phelps' underwater
@@alekos2656 he is. Marchand is even better
What was so illegal about that turn?
Fina worst
FINA rule SW 9.2 says it’s ok to turn onto your back you just can’t stroke or kick until your on your front, but I don’t know if a dolphin counts because it’s not really a kick is more of a body undulation
They changed it now and made it clear you cant do that. I mean at the IM of course.
Its called Freestyle !!
Yeah nothing problem with that style.wtd fina thinking
It is free style.
He could swim butterfly or another style
Is this turn legal in fly events?
No. I guess after Lochte did that they made it very clear diving on your back is only legal in backstroke and freestyle (as long as its not the freestyle- quarter in the IM) races
The rule is not well thought out. Doing a dolphin kick chest down is the same as the butterfly underwater. So, by the logic of the current rule, that should be illegal as well.
What was illegal in the first race?
コメント失礼致します。
この曲は何という曲ですか？
I want to know this music title！
sameee ive been looking for more than 15min and shazam dosent recognize it!!
All he did was use what was advantageous for him, his talent and skill level. So all this does is tell swimmers is to use less of your talent and more drugs... ehem, supplements 😃😃😃
Yes and that the rule wasn't very clear there
What race is this? It doesn't appear to be IM but just freestyle race.
ドルフィンかバサロどっちの方がいいの？
which is better dolphin kicks or basaro kicks?
underwater: dolphin kicks back are faster than dolphin kicks front, and faster than breaststroke kick. The explication is in the French book: "Nager en apnée" Edit Adverbum 2020
@@lucstaps Thank you
Everything is allowed in Freestyle, isn’t it?
Dude free style…it’s whatever you want it to be.
he is perfect
Why someone thought it was their right to make this turn illegal in freestyle is beyond me. Freestyle should be whatever you want. Today wrong to take this away from Lochte. David marsh and I have had conversations about this. It's very unfair and wrong.
I Don’t think so bro, me doing that to, it’s really fast
But doesn't freestyle suppose you may swim freely whatever style you want?
Not during the Free style part of the Medley... This is not a real Free style, you are right
In an IM it it not freestyle though, it is front crawl. Freestyle and front crawl are not the same thing.
@@Arrica101 Front crawl doesn’t exist in FINAs’ IM rules
Technically not DQ
@@lucstaps this is before the Ryan Lochte Rule I believe though so it was kind of legal
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Freestyle ! You can swim anystroke in a Freestyle race, so in effect it's not illegal ,he could swim first length freestyle and transition into backstroke .
Backstroke is any stroke swum on the back, including while underwater. It's illegal to do any kick underwater after the turn to the freestyle portion if the kick is while the swimmer is past vertical towards the back.
Why not?
It's a freestyle...
Only illegal in the end of the medley... just to have a 4th stroke (different from the 3 others). But when swimmers are kicking on the front during the « freestyle », they do like the kicking front of the fly. So we can say that the illegality is only to stop innovation. Fantastic Lochte turn!!! I hope he still make it during his freestyle races
No. In the freestyle part of the Medley, swimmers cannot do a backstroke like the fantastic Ryan Lochte!
But they can do Butterfly.
Is illegal now in butterfly?
Yes. Always have been.
@@lucstaps Just freestyle?
@@OmarSivori10 Yes!
But in freestyle I think that this tecnique is more efficient
@@OmarSivori10 I think so 👍🏼
Not in medley
👍🏼
to be DQed or not to be DQed
Hmmm, this is a tough call
Its not. Its entirely legal
@@TherealOni36 not on the IM freestyle quarter though. They changed it and made it very clear.
@@Oncer_Soldier_ the rule was changed bc of this race hence it was legal. source: swim swam
@@TherealOni36 thats what I said
O my god! (live) The Police
What song is this ?
The demo of the song « O my god » by The Police band
It was only illegal in the IM
Wrong. Freestyle means any style, hence its name.
Well but not in the IM. Well it is still free but you can't swim the 3 other style there. Except that you can swim whatever you like
wait this is banned?
In the part of freestyle of the medley yes. Since 2015... after the Lochte performance
@@lucstaps ahh okay well
The title is very misleading
lol completely legal... 😂
it's called 'freestyle' lol
But it’s not a real freestyle…
Très bonne vidéo. D accord avec toi Luc complètement illégal sur le 4nages ! Abuse les juges de virages
Still beat him 🤣
Metodo golfinho
Such a stupid rule
That's not illegal
It is now. But only in the IM of course
Ridiculous and outside the spirit of the term 'freestyle'. Bsn the suits, don't ban new skills. If this bunch of crusty bureaucrats was around when butterfly was invented we wouldn't have butterfly.
Este wuey no sabe no aga videos tons
That's not illegal. Fake title!
It’s illegal in medley. Sorry
According to SW 9.1 each of the strokes must cover one quarter (1/4) of the distance. Being on the back when leaving the wall for the Freestyle portion of the Ind. Medley is covering more than one quarter of the distance in the style of Backstroke and is, therefore, a disqualification. Backstroke swimming is only defined as being on the back. See also SW 5.1, SW 6.1 - SW 6.5, SW 7.1 to 7.6, SW 8.1 - 8.5
not illegal
It is now. In the IM
@@Oncer_Soldier_ is this an IM race? didn’t think so, so not illegal
Absolutely legal...its "freestyle"