Unregulated c02 with no expansion or other protection is just asking for 0 consistency. The liqued co2 will go out of the nozzle in varying amounts causing it to then expand in the barrel and create both bucking issues and varying fps.
Yes indeed. They are power colour coded, but that would require the marshals to know the colours power outputs, but still, the different colour chambers can be used on different power nozzles. Easily abused by questionable types.
Having just got an AAC T11 that I've Sabre'd, I'm genuinely bewildered at this thing. AAC make good stuff. Seems like they should've stopped designing it at some point, almost like they had to do all of that just to get it to work. And 8g? What an awkward standard. Can't see these catching on, let alone dethroning what's already out there. Oh and given my limited experience with .177 CO2 air pistols, I'd wager the inconsistencies are down to the CO2 itself. A few very powerful shots and then it dies on its arse.
When I saw this advertised I thought that all this might come about thank you for a honest review could you do a comparison video between the ssg96 and the specna edge SA-S11 l96 👆
Dang! A real shame. Between this and the disappointing results I'm seeing from the LEVAR-15, it seems like new era gas rifles just can't go the distance. I suppose there's a poetry to the tried and true methods doing the job better, but it's still a shame to see. I would have thought "Oh, well presumably the green gas cylinder will at least be a stealthy mid to cqb range option for bolt action fun (if it doesn't leak)", but... the thing's noisy! That's crazy to me. And the slamming forward of the cylinder is extra motion that a shooter has to compensate for! As if a gas gun needed another hinderance to long range stability and consistency. Looks like this baby's D.O.A. unfortunately. Thanks for putting the video out though, CamMan! Saved me some LeafBucks for sure. Cheers from Canada, mate.
I take it there will be no way to HPA tap it since the gas cylinder is apart of the Action (Bolt). , I know its early days no doubt someone will think of a genius way to tap it somehow.
so per co2 it's ~50 shots, that means using a AA VSR 50 round mag you need to reload mag and bolt every time, and for lightweight and size it's not much then a Maple Leaf S3 stock platform but it's a spring power so no co2 bolt replace to worry about? so.... it's a innovation system that make no improve then one of the oldest sniper system....?
Mechanical noise is literally the worst kind to suppress….perhaps file down around the nozzle and put some sort of soft material. Otherwise it’s a very poorly executed concept that could have been done so much better. I run 88g co2 on my ssg10 but it NEEDS an expansion chamber otherwise you risk blowing a seal, over and under hop and even potentially risk the gun shooting way too hot.
Not a Fan of CO2 Rifles. Green Gas can be ok, weather depending, but not that consistent. Would have loved to see how it was on Green Gas, but the Rifle does not sound like its a winner to me.
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Unregulated c02 with no expansion or other protection is just asking for 0 consistency. The liqued co2 will go out of the nozzle in varying amounts causing it to then expand in the barrel and create both bucking issues and varying fps.
Rubber is probably frozen solid by the 2nd shot.
looks like it is neither silent, nor consistent, nor easy to use :(
I love reviews that show what stuff not to buy.
Airsoft manufacturers can try new things like AAC C1, but it is proved the Spring and HPA to Sniper Rifles are all times the best ones.
I got mine yesterday. And mine is far more stable then in this video. When i rapid fire it maybe dips a little in power after 10 shots.
Never seen you struggle to hit a whole window before, the rifle must be hell to shoot haha
can see the co2 changing system to be a chronos worst nightmare, being able to swpa that cyliner out so easily can see some abuse by bad peoples
Yes indeed. They are power colour coded, but that would require the marshals to know the colours power outputs, but still, the different colour chambers can be used on different power nozzles. Easily abused by questionable types.
It's a very interesting design, for ease of power change.
But it appears they still have a few kinks to work out. 🤷♂️
Another company made this for the A & K dragnov and it had the same issues
Having just got an AAC T11 that I've Sabre'd, I'm genuinely bewildered at this thing. AAC make good stuff. Seems like they should've stopped designing it at some point, almost like they had to do all of that just to get it to work. And 8g? What an awkward standard. Can't see these catching on, let alone dethroning what's already out there.
Oh and given my limited experience with .177 CO2 air pistols, I'd wager the inconsistencies are down to the CO2 itself. A few very powerful shots and then it dies on its arse.
Your expansion tank theory is probably it, half the fluid firing out the nozzle is probably liquid CO2.
That bolt sounds like a swing in a playground haha In fact, the swing could be quieter!
When I saw this advertised I thought that all this might come about thank you for a honest review could you do a comparison video between the ssg96 and the specna edge SA-S11 l96 👆
very interesting, I think I'd like one to plink around with. Not sure if I'd replace my sniper now with it.
I nearly ordered one of these, with the co2 cylinder. For the price it has its tempting but unless they fix its major issues, it s def a no.
Dang! A real shame. Between this and the disappointing results I'm seeing from the LEVAR-15, it seems like new era gas rifles just can't go the distance. I suppose there's a poetry to the tried and true methods doing the job better, but it's still a shame to see.
I would have thought "Oh, well presumably the green gas cylinder will at least be a stealthy mid to cqb range option for bolt action fun (if it doesn't leak)", but... the thing's noisy! That's crazy to me. And the slamming forward of the cylinder is extra motion that a shooter has to compensate for! As if a gas gun needed another hinderance to long range stability and consistency.
Looks like this baby's D.O.A. unfortunately. Thanks for putting the video out though, CamMan! Saved me some LeafBucks for sure. Cheers from Canada, mate.
Is that high pitched squeak coming from the bolt when you lift the handle to chamber a new round? That's annoying.
What the point of gas and c02 in the first place ?
Reduced on an co2 cartusche 😢Bether hpa
I take it there will be no way to HPA tap it since the gas cylinder is apart of the Action (Bolt). , I know its early days no doubt someone will think of a genius way to tap it somehow.
Going to be fun swapping that out with a scope on that pic rail! 😅
Ekhm...consistency like well mb03 out of the box , or worse😅
Reminds me of the SVD CO2 conversion kit. Completely unusable 😅
i got a friend who had his just release the whole co2 per shot so aprox 17 joule hahahaha
Too much hard work.
Another great video. Is everything ok? Your voice seemed different from most videos.
That's disappointing. 🔫
This gun made me very audibly say EWWWWWWWWW
So they took the decade old gas cylinder for VSR, split it into pieces and managed to make a bad system worse? LOL
so per co2 it's ~50 shots, that means using a AA VSR 50 round mag you need to reload mag and bolt every time, and for lightweight and size it's not much then a Maple Leaf S3 stock platform but it's a spring power so no co2 bolt replace to worry about? so.... it's a innovation system that make no improve then one of the oldest sniper system....?
Really flawed design from concept to production. I’m impressed you put up with it for more than one game. 😅
Thanks for testing so we don’t have to
Mechanical noise is literally the worst kind to suppress….perhaps file down around the nozzle and put some sort of soft material. Otherwise it’s a very poorly executed concept that could have been done so much better.
I run 88g co2 on my ssg10 but it NEEDS an expansion chamber otherwise you risk blowing a seal, over and under hop and even potentially risk the gun shooting way too hot.
I wouldn't touch the nozzle. Dampening the impact down will probably balls up the releaseof gas.
@@FulcrumAirsoft yeah but what else could be done lol …that’s the issue tho. Mechanical noise is always the hardest to fix for that reason
Had an old crappy SVD that worked with much the same system from King Arms. Horrible way to make a gas gun.
Co2 rifles like the kc02 work well because you can maximise the gas seal and efficiency. This seems terrible
Could you explain a bit more about how the KC-02 does this please? I've been considering getting one...
i think hpa and spring is the way to go, way more reliable in terms of accuracy and probably more convenient
imagine trying to sort this mid game lmfao
Glad to see this video. I won’t be buying or trying a crap rifle like this
pass
I dislike the thin dangly looking buttstock
This is…. Interesting, not exactly in a good way 😂
great video awful rifle solid pass
What m4 hop up unit, bucking and inner barrel would you recommend
Not a Fan of CO2 Rifles. Green Gas can be ok, weather depending, but not that consistent. Would have loved to see how it was on Green Gas, but the Rifle does not sound like its a winner to me.
Cool!
lmao. with the wear over time your scope wont loose zero enough for you to tell. its not a rifle. its not going to make that much of a difference
this rifles is a joke, AAC make a big s***!!!!!
Well I know not to buy that bag of shit rifle then...
If it was a novi gun it was good😂
Looks like a ball ache piece of junk