Guild Wars 3 was name dropped during an NCSoft shareholders meeting in Korea and after the event was confirmed as being in the review stage of approval with no active development at this time. ArenaNet has already confirmed multiple Guild Wars 2 expansions are actively in development so there is no end to Guild Wars 2 in the near future. Guild Wars 2 has at the very least 2+ more years of content already announced as in development. Even if Guild Wars 3 started development today, it would be several years of development before a release if it could even release this decade, and it is not starting development today. Because the GW3 project is only in the review stage, there is every possibility that it is shot down and does not happen, the gaming industry is very volatile right now and investments are very low.
I really hope that they will put everything in gw2 and just put it on new engine but thats a lot of copium I am taking for that. Especially that they invested in current engine recently.
Well, assuming that one of the projects that are being developed, with the intention of being released within a "soon-ish" time, is in fact GW3: - assuming GW3 is indeed an MMO, they will probably need to give the existing playerbase a VERY good reason to drop all their progress, and/or at least partially transfer their progress over. And depending on what content a hypothetical GW3 has, players may not even start over in a new game, if the content is not what they currently do on a regular basis - assuming GW3 is NOT an MMO, that's different situation, yet still a difficult decision. Because people will expect something similar to the HOM-system interaction we currently have between GW1 and GW2. I don´t want to think too negatively about this situation, but i can see a few hints that GW3 may actually be an MMO. They don´t necessarily hold true and are pure speculation, potentially even overthinking this topic but: - especially WvW-world restructuring being iterated on can be a hint that they use it to put a system in place that can not only let the players do most of the work of organizing the teams, but ALSO a system that can be fully automated without human input. ofc this is a stretch, it´s been a project for years (even though it was shelved for most of the time), but it also could be that they now started developing, implementing and iterating on it BECAUSE they want to free resources away from GW2 by doing automation. - for the PvP-side of things: yes, we had automated tournaments for over half of the runtime of GW2, but under the same argumentation, PvP is ALSO already set to operate on its own in automation on the other hand, there´s also very sound arguments that speak against this: - they JUST commited to a yearly expansion-cycle AND a quartely release-cycle. It´s counterproductive to INCREASE the frequency of releases, if you already know that you may stop development of new content in order to focus on a successor-MMO - if what has been leaked from that meeting regarding the potential development of GW3 holds true, it is WAY too soon for a release, as that implied that they haven't even started "brainstorming" of what a potential GW3 should even be. in other words, they haven't even STARTED anything related to development (including deciding if they ACTUALLY want to develop a potential GW3) - also, GW2 just had their most successful years relatively recently, they would be shooting themselves into the foot by abandoning a game that JUST (in the grand scheme of things) has proven its worth so, summing up everything, i think it´s unlikely that any of those projects is GW3. and even IF it is, it's unlikely that it will release anytime that you could consider "reasonably foreseeable future" unless GW2 DRASTICALLY loses monetary value to NCSoft
As you suggested in your video, I would also like Gw3 to be a non-MMO addition to the franchise that people can play alongside Gw2. Lets see what Anet is cooking...
I’ve said it so many times I’m sick so I’ll give the tldr; Two games? YES! GW2 AND another one I’m all in I’d play two happily. Anything, ANYTHING, ANY. THING. That kills GW2 for any reason? No, fuck off, I will not play it. I am not going to start again if my forever home is ripped away just to force me to play the new thing. I will just leave.
Imagine gw2 but in ue5 with all the modern lighting and shader techniques. Insane fidelity with performance, it would be actually insane. I dont think they will do something of that scope though.
The only thing I would like GW2 to do, is significantly improve its performance, which thankfully they have been doing over time. I think the game is massive enough for it to last for years to come, and they should nurture what they have instead of jumping ship. GW3 I would envision to be a bigger technical upgrade such as an engine change
Wasn't it announced that a guild wars 3 wasn't / was barely in development when the rumors (which happened I think less than 1 year ago) started? In that case 2025/2026 is probably too soon to have that kind of game ready.
couple months ago on investors report meeting an exec that was covering for another exec when pressured about ncsoft west being in red for years threw the name guild wars 3 out in attempt to upsell AN competitiveness. Later in interview same exec trying to damage control for their mistake stated that gw3 is still in early review phases. AN only commented that they are always reviewing options for future but are now dedicated to gw2. Even if GW3 gets through reviews and into actually development we won't see anything about it for years to come.
well the thing is the unannounced project has been being hired for for YEARS which is why im thinking gw3 might not be an mmorpg like gw2 is but instead something different
GW3 is in development since the end of EoD, so more than 2 years already at this point There were comments from insiders and stuff but they removed most of it, but some of it can be found on the internet if you look enough
That depends because we don’t know what ‘that type of game’ is! Some genres of game might be at the reveal stage by then, especially if it’s mobile slop
Thinking they have a gw3 in the works while they're actively updating 2 is kinda ridiculous tbh. They even walked back the gw3 statement that was made during the shareholders meeting as something tossed out on the fly to appease shareholders.
Funnily enough, something kinda similar happened with Destiny 2 and Bungie Recently. Y'see, for several months now, there had been "leaks" about what Bungie was supposedly working on behind the scenes, and one such thing was, apprently, Destiny 3. However, as it turns out, this so called "Destiny 3" was NOT, in fact, Destiny 3, but rather a 3rd person Spinoff title set in the destiny universe, which ended up being canned several months ago. So, for all we know, the so called "GW3" that NCSoft mentionned, might not even be GW3 to begin with, but rather some kind of spinoff title set in the Guild Wars universe, or it could just be a mobile/console version for GW2, meant to attract and onboard even more players into its ecosystem. Or... and hear me out on this one... it could also be a code name for a potentially MASSIVE graphical and/or system overhaul coming to GW2 in the far future, which would effectively act as a "Re-release" for the game, thereby explaining why NCSoft thought it would be a "Sequel". At the end of the day though, we really don't know much of anything just yet, and for all intent and purposes, all of the stuff I mentionned above could end up being canned before it even got time to flourish, which happens ALL THE TIME in game dev.
I think passively they've been working on GW3. Unreal engine 5. Whatever they do, I hope it is similar to gw2. I hope that everything gets fully voiced. I hope that cinamatics get overhauled from the start of the game to end. I hope that the business model stays the same, one time purchase / optional enhancements and pretty stuff. I hope there is a way to take the progress in gw2 and link it to gw3 (legendaries). I hope there is an official mobile phone game and companion that you can do certain actions on and it effects things in your game. I hope they balance Horizontal and vertical progression. I hope they stray away from weapon choice being the focal point, too many games are doing the two weapon swap mechanics. I like it better with a system that is based on class or profession, where you only have two weapons (no choice) but the "weapon skills" are based upon the spec and race.
Gw2 is still financially viable. Looking at the time it takes to make a new mmorpg, I think it's more likely it has nothing to do with gw3. Unless it's a slow production of 9 years.
I think you're limiting the power of a company already having existing lore and assets as well as the power of UE 5.4 which can increase production and development efficiency by 65% or more in some cases. Also 1 of the biggest pre-established game communities with a constant flow of cash.
On the other hand, I'm in GW2 for a couple hours every day, and I have never, _ever,_ seen players in the chat pining away for "GW3". Just based on what I've seen, player interest is pretty much non-existent. That may not prove anything, but I think it might indicate something - Like people on RUclips being more interested than people in the game....
Ive watched almost every podcast for ashes. I'm also a new player in GW2(been playing a little over a month). You can absolutely tell the AoC devs are major GW2 fans. They are taking so much inspiration from the GW2 mechanics and systems. I now understand why during the dev blogs for AoC the chat spams GW2 lol. It's almost like AoC is GW3 in some ways. I wish both companies major success and am excited! Until then...Imma be grinding in GW2! Been having a blast!
@@wessredd7237 You'll be disappointed since the finished product will be a mess and here I'm talking about the systems in the game. Each advertised feature has at least one of the other advertised features directly opposing it, and none of the developers has noticed it which means that they're either smokingly incompetent or they have surrounded themselves with yes-men who are more concerned with kissing ass than making a good product.
Maybe they can do what Red Hook did with darkest dungeon. The next "guild wars" game doesn't need to be an mmo. It could be a 4x or a standalone rpg like baldur's gate. That game has proven that the format is profitable, and a guild wars rpg continuing the main story without the restraints of multiplayer has so much potential for lore and content.
Yeah I’d love if they used the IP for another type of game. Single player story, shooter, survival, cozy casual, hell a frickin gacha game I don’t care. Put it *alongside* GW2, not replacing it
If they would make one expansion that just ports entire game to new engine and the only new thing is reworked based game story and engine I would be really happy.
If they develop Gw3, I feel like this is unlikely. Anet is known for innovation and I think this is what they would do for Gw3. Tbh, I do not really want such a Gw3. I would much rather go with your suggestion. I just think it is not likely, unfortunately. But maybe I am wrong.
Its GW3, out next year or 2026 at latest, they've been working on it for 3-4 years at least now. They've also tried to separate from NCSOFT a couple of times. They may end up being their own entity soon and hopefully. GW1 is still being played, just ending lifecycle support at just the time for a new title to emerge. GW2 will also likely have a HALL OF MONUMENTS transfer. If it aint broke font fix it. While MMOs are not typically viable for most companies, ANET is a monster in the space, this is the time to launvh GW3 with WoW on steady decline and the new JANTHIR WILDS releasing, the influx of cash over the next year will likely set precedent to become their own publisher and finally separate from NCSOFT. Lastly, ANET doesn't have to worry about GW2 the same way a SUBSCRIPTION model MMO would, GW3 is happily on it's way, fear not.
On the other hand, I'm in GW2 for a couple hours every day, and I have never, _ever,_ seen players in the chat pining away for "GW3". Just based on what I've seen, player interest is pretty much non-existent. That may not prove anything, but I think it might indicate something - Like people on RUclips being more interested than people in the game....
There was a trailer for gw2 that looked like reused from guild wars mobile. There were some rumors about canceled project. I doubt they will make guild wars mobile.
Are we sure theyre not just porting gw2 to a new engine? That could explain a lot. We're in an era of gaming where GW2s engine just cannot compete with other games upcoming like AOC. Also meanwhile WoW and FF14 get constant engine overhauls. Regardless if people enjoy GW2 more than other MMOs, objectively it needs a new engine extremely bad.
Guild Wars 3 was name dropped during an NCSoft shareholders meeting in Korea and after the event was confirmed as being in the review stage of approval with no active development at this time.
ArenaNet has already confirmed multiple Guild Wars 2 expansions are actively in development so there is no end to Guild Wars 2 in the near future. Guild Wars 2 has at the very least 2+ more years of content already announced as in development.
Even if Guild Wars 3 started development today, it would be several years of development before a release if it could even release this decade, and it is not starting development today.
Because the GW3 project is only in the review stage, there is every possibility that it is shot down and does not happen, the gaming industry is very volatile right now and investments are very low.
Ppl spewing crap about a guild wars 3 while guild wars 2 is doing so great are just delusional.
I really hope that they will put everything in gw2 and just put it on new engine but thats a lot of copium I am taking for that.
Especially that they invested in current engine recently.
Im new! Been playing a month and a half! I got a lot of grinding to do before I even think about gw3. 😂
Well, assuming that one of the projects that are being developed, with the intention of being released within a "soon-ish" time, is in fact GW3:
- assuming GW3 is indeed an MMO, they will probably need to give the existing playerbase a VERY good reason to drop all their progress, and/or at least partially transfer their progress over. And depending on what content a hypothetical GW3 has, players may not even start over in a new game, if the content is not what they currently do on a regular basis
- assuming GW3 is NOT an MMO, that's different situation, yet still a difficult decision. Because people will expect something similar to the HOM-system interaction we currently have between GW1 and GW2.
I don´t want to think too negatively about this situation, but i can see a few hints that GW3 may actually be an MMO. They don´t necessarily hold true and are pure speculation, potentially even overthinking this topic but:
- especially WvW-world restructuring being iterated on can be a hint that they use it to put a system in place that can not only let the players do most of the work of organizing the teams, but ALSO a system that can be fully automated without human input. ofc this is a stretch, it´s been a project for years (even though it was shelved for most of the time), but it also could be that they now started developing, implementing and iterating on it BECAUSE they want to free resources away from GW2 by doing automation.
- for the PvP-side of things: yes, we had automated tournaments for over half of the runtime of GW2, but under the same argumentation, PvP is ALSO already set to operate on its own in automation
on the other hand, there´s also very sound arguments that speak against this:
- they JUST commited to a yearly expansion-cycle AND a quartely release-cycle. It´s counterproductive to INCREASE the frequency of releases, if you already know that you may stop development of new content in order to focus on a successor-MMO
- if what has been leaked from that meeting regarding the potential development of GW3 holds true, it is WAY too soon for a release, as that implied that they haven't even started "brainstorming" of what a potential GW3 should even be. in other words, they haven't even STARTED anything related to development (including deciding if they ACTUALLY want to develop a potential GW3)
- also, GW2 just had their most successful years relatively recently, they would be shooting themselves into the foot by abandoning a game that JUST (in the grand scheme of things) has proven its worth
so, summing up everything, i think it´s unlikely that any of those projects is GW3. and even IF it is, it's unlikely that it will release anytime that you could consider "reasonably foreseeable future" unless GW2 DRASTICALLY loses monetary value to NCSoft
As you suggested in your video, I would also like Gw3 to be a non-MMO addition to the franchise that people can play alongside Gw2. Lets see what Anet is cooking...
I’ve said it so many times I’m sick so I’ll give the tldr;
Two games? YES! GW2 AND another one I’m all in I’d play two happily. Anything, ANYTHING, ANY. THING. That kills GW2 for any reason? No, fuck off, I will not play it. I am not going to start again if my forever home is ripped away just to force me to play the new thing. I will just leave.
Imagine gw2 but in ue5 with all the modern lighting and shader techniques. Insane fidelity with performance, it would be actually insane.
I dont think they will do something of that scope though.
The only thing I would like GW2 to do, is significantly improve its performance, which thankfully they have been doing over time. I think the game is massive enough for it to last for years to come, and they should nurture what they have instead of jumping ship. GW3 I would envision to be a bigger technical upgrade such as an engine change
Wasn't it announced that a guild wars 3 wasn't / was barely in development when the rumors (which happened I think less than 1 year ago) started?
In that case 2025/2026 is probably too soon to have that kind of game ready.
couple months ago on investors report meeting an exec that was covering for another exec when pressured about ncsoft west being in red for years threw the name guild wars 3 out in attempt to upsell AN competitiveness. Later in interview same exec trying to damage control for their mistake stated that gw3 is still in early review phases. AN only commented that they are always reviewing options for future but are now dedicated to gw2.
Even if GW3 gets through reviews and into actually development we won't see anything about it for years to come.
Cheers for the full information. Still shows a developed gw3 out of reach for that game roadmap.
well the thing is the unannounced project has been being hired for for YEARS which is why im thinking gw3 might not be an mmorpg like gw2 is but instead something different
GW3 is in development since the end of EoD, so more than 2 years already at this point
There were comments from insiders and stuff but they removed most of it, but some of it can be found on the internet if you look enough
That depends because we don’t know what ‘that type of game’ is! Some genres of game might be at the reveal stage by then, especially if it’s mobile slop
Thinking they have a gw3 in the works while they're actively updating 2 is kinda ridiculous tbh. They even walked back the gw3 statement that was made during the shareholders meeting as something tossed out on the fly to appease shareholders.
We will see a GW2 Mobile before GW3
Funnily enough, something kinda similar happened with Destiny 2 and Bungie Recently.
Y'see, for several months now, there had been "leaks" about what Bungie was supposedly working on behind the scenes, and one such thing was, apprently, Destiny 3.
However, as it turns out, this so called "Destiny 3" was NOT, in fact, Destiny 3, but rather a 3rd person Spinoff title set in the destiny universe, which ended up being canned several months ago.
So, for all we know, the so called "GW3" that NCSoft mentionned, might not even be GW3 to begin with, but rather some kind of spinoff title set in the Guild Wars universe, or it could just be a mobile/console version for GW2, meant to attract and onboard even more players into its ecosystem.
Or... and hear me out on this one... it could also be a code name for a potentially MASSIVE graphical and/or system overhaul coming to GW2 in the far future, which would effectively act as a "Re-release" for the game, thereby explaining why NCSoft thought it would be a "Sequel".
At the end of the day though, we really don't know much of anything just yet, and for all intent and purposes, all of the stuff I mentionned above could end up being canned before it even got time to flourish, which happens ALL THE TIME in game dev.
I think passively they've been working on GW3. Unreal engine 5.
Whatever they do, I hope it is similar to gw2. I hope that everything gets fully voiced. I hope that cinamatics get overhauled from the start of the game to end. I hope that the business model stays the same, one time purchase / optional enhancements and pretty stuff. I hope there is a way to take the progress in gw2 and link it to gw3 (legendaries). I hope there is an official mobile phone game and companion that you can do certain actions on and it effects things in your game. I hope they balance Horizontal and vertical progression.
I hope they stray away from weapon choice being the focal point, too many games are doing the two weapon swap mechanics.
I like it better with a system that is based on class or profession, where you only have two weapons (no choice) but the "weapon skills" are based upon the spec and race.
i know it's not something they'll ever do...but god i would kill to see a return of wildstar
we were talking about this on stream today, considering they are focusing on legacy IPs its POSSIBLE but yeah probably not
@@darensgw2 a non zero chance is at least not zero :'^)
I just want a graphical tuning to gw2. Gw2 is already an amazing game. It doesn't need a sequel at all.
Gw2 is still financially viable. Looking at the time it takes to make a new mmorpg, I think it's more likely it has nothing to do with gw3. Unless it's a slow production of 9 years.
I think you're limiting the power of a company already having existing lore and assets as well as the power of UE 5.4 which can increase production and development efficiency by 65% or more in some cases. Also 1 of the biggest pre-established game communities with a constant flow of cash.
@@xeridian look at the Riot mmorpg and all their resources. That game is predicated to have a 9 year development window, if not longer now.
On the other hand, I'm in GW2 for a couple hours every day, and I have never, _ever,_ seen players in the chat pining away for "GW3". Just based on what I've seen, player interest is pretty much non-existent. That may not prove anything, but I think it might indicate something - Like people on RUclips being more interested than people in the game....
you did not mention the most anticipated MMO for the last 3 years = Ashes Of Creation.
most anticipated? bit of a stretch.
Ive watched almost every podcast for ashes. I'm also a new player in GW2(been playing a little over a month). You can absolutely tell the AoC devs are major GW2 fans. They are taking so much inspiration from the GW2 mechanics and systems. I now understand why during the dev blogs for AoC the chat spams GW2 lol. It's almost like AoC is GW3 in some ways. I wish both companies major success and am excited! Until then...Imma be grinding in GW2! Been having a blast!
@@wessredd7237 You'll be disappointed since the finished product will be a mess and here I'm talking about the systems in the game. Each advertised feature has at least one of the other advertised features directly opposing it, and none of the developers has noticed it which means that they're either smokingly incompetent or they have surrounded themselves with yes-men who are more concerned with kissing ass than making a good product.
Most anticipated scam
Maybe they can do what Red Hook did with darkest dungeon. The next "guild wars" game doesn't need to be an mmo. It could be a 4x or a standalone rpg like baldur's gate. That game has proven that the format is profitable, and a guild wars rpg continuing the main story without the restraints of multiplayer has so much potential for lore and content.
Yeah I’d love if they used the IP for another type of game. Single player story, shooter, survival, cozy casual, hell a frickin gacha game I don’t care. Put it *alongside* GW2, not replacing it
Porting GW2 assets to UE5 could also be made so GW2 gets a huge upgrade in a few years to UE5.
Two birds one stone.
This is My hope for ”gw3” and most likely option consider all their investing to gw2
If they would make one expansion that just ports entire game to new engine and the only new thing is reworked based game story and engine I would be really happy.
If they develop Gw3, I feel like this is unlikely. Anet is known for innovation and I think this is what they would do for Gw3.
Tbh, I do not really want such a Gw3. I would much rather go with your suggestion. I just think it is not likely, unfortunately. But maybe I am wrong.
Its GW3, out next year or 2026 at latest, they've been working on it for 3-4 years at least now. They've also tried to separate from NCSOFT a couple of times. They may end up being their own entity soon and hopefully. GW1 is still being played, just ending lifecycle support at just the time for a new title to emerge. GW2 will also likely have a HALL OF MONUMENTS transfer. If it aint broke font fix it.
While MMOs are not typically viable for most companies, ANET is a monster in the space, this is the time to launvh GW3 with WoW on steady decline and the new JANTHIR WILDS releasing, the influx of cash over the next year will likely set precedent to become their own publisher and finally separate from NCSOFT.
Lastly, ANET doesn't have to worry about GW2 the same way a SUBSCRIPTION model MMO would, GW3 is happily on it's way, fear not.
That is a lot of copium are you ok?
@@michu1247 he isn't wrong though
I think you overestimate man power at Anet. They will need more than 3 to 4 years to pull of a new MMO like a potential Gw3.
On the other hand, I'm in GW2 for a couple hours every day, and I have never, _ever,_ seen players in the chat pining away for "GW3". Just based on what I've seen, player interest is pretty much non-existent. That may not prove anything, but I think it might indicate something - Like people on RUclips being more interested than people in the game....
I hope that GW3 is going to be GW1 remake which will consolidate advantages of both games in GW1 timeline.
i just started gw2 its so good i dont them to make another mmo...
I know there is no evidence to support it, but knowing NCsoft I fear for Guild Wars 2 mobile :D
Can be. mobile games are HUGE! they also can work on something crossplay like Albion.
GuidWars Immortal! xd
There was a trailer for gw2 that looked like reused from guild wars mobile. There were some rumors about canceled project. I doubt they will make guild wars mobile.
Are we sure theyre not just porting gw2 to a new engine? That could explain a lot. We're in an era of gaming where GW2s engine just cannot compete with other games upcoming like AOC. Also meanwhile WoW and FF14 get constant engine overhauls. Regardless if people enjoy GW2 more than other MMOs, objectively it needs a new engine extremely bad.
definetly a possibility BUT I think that one probably would tkae a longer time I think
changing title works ;-)
they fund other project from gw2 money instead of putting the money back into the game. these guys are clowns and they will fail
I really belive Gw3 ll be a mobile game.