@@stephenhurd1489 Stanford/Google will probably solve it soon, they have Time Crystals now so i expect to hear some mind blowing news in the next few years.
Also let's be honest if somebody was smart enough to actually solve the ciphers and track down the treasure, they were probably smart enough to not publicly announce it 😭
Exactly what I was going to comment ,both dead and undead relatives/partners of expdition crew and all involved would showup on your doorstep asking for their cut.
That is one of the popular theories, that Beale or someone else with knowledge of the location retrieved the treasure. There would be no need to bother with the encrypted documents if that was the case.
Quite the intriguing story. A true mystery, to be sure. I'm really curious to know how you stumbled about this mystery. I live in the United States and I've never heard of it until now. By the way, I love your channel and your stories. The way you tell them is captivating.
I like to think the cipher is real, but the key was in something so innocuous and mundane, like probably the local newspaper or a diary, that Thomas knew no matter how much anyone tried, nobody could ever hope to open it. Although the most incredible part of the story, and strongest point of doubt, is not the size of the treasure itself, _but how none of the original explorers betrayed and killed each other for it._ People have done far worse for so much more less, so who knows, lolz.
The key will be something that the families know about. A favorite bedtime story, a popular book or even the family Bible. (there are so many different versions) As for your second point, they might have killed each other. There is no trace of the expedition before, during or after.
It's is almost like it was a pact between brothers in arms in a sense. I agree with what you said about the cyper is real and might be in a news paper or what not. But I do think it could be a treasure buried but it's wealth I'd the knowledge used to find it. First example the second cypher is the well what most Americans find the most important text. So if this is the first but the first is the second. And it could all be mixed up what is the second and third most important text?? 🤔 I think they would have some bible play in it maybe for the first cypher but the 3rd no ideas.
You're on to something there if it's all true that is...if it was me I'd use my diary (if I used one) as its the most personal item to an individual so therefore less chance of it being found. I personally think its a load of pot wash but if it turns out to be true then I'll be dammed 😂
It was probably the birthdate of a relative or something along those lines. Might also of been the year in which it was buried. Also, many people don't believe in curses but.. Bastards killed each other for it. It's 100% cursed.
The biggest argument for this being a scam is the common sense fact that miners would not bury gold but spend it . It's a ludicrous story proving that scamming is not new and that Barnum's words were true then as they are now "There's a sucker born every minute"..
There is long history thousands of years of people burying their valuables for protection if you thought there was a chance someone was going to rob you wouldn't you put it in a hole that you know where it was so that they couldn't
There's certainly suckers born every minute...like the ones who believe everything the mainstream media and the government say and believe that they care...
Ah I get it. He solved the puzzle, found the treasure, pretended he didn't, and made more money off that premise. Or more likely the whole story is fake.
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I found him today and am in love. Usually I don’t learn anything on RUclips. But watching him it’s interesting and keeps me watching to the end props to him
So they travelled about 2000 miles , dug up a pile of gold , retraced those 2000 miles , then buried the pile of gold . Methinks Beale had nigerian royal blood in his veins .
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Found your channel some weeks ago and I loved it and loved you too. I felt so embarrassed hearing Nigeria Prince, I am aware there are shady people in Nigeria but also around the world too. Please don't think all Nigerians are scammers, some of us are very brilliant, hardworking and god-fearing. I apologize to those who were victims of Nigerian- prince scam. Please, there are also good people here, who genuinely loves the western people and their culture.
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Even assuming the story is true, someone could have figured out the code and grabbed the gold decades ago. Or one of Beale's team went and retrieved it, and had the good sense to keep his mouth shut.
I don't remember where but I heard about this story before but had since forgotten, thanks for reminding me of it. I've always loved stuff like this and the story is just so interesting to me because of that.
*sniff sniff* aye, that's definitely white. Great video as always but sounds like another grift from the United states of grifters, shifters and shizters.
Forget the ciphers, with extensive land explorations/developments and the ubiquitous availability of a myriad of advanced technological gadgets and detection methods, no buried treasure of that size would have remained hidden for that long.
Gotta wonder how many people have set up bots and fed them every piece of literature from the time they could, and all books and papers they could find, and had them run them as ciphers starting from every letter individually. Just millions of calculations instantly generating results that would take humans eons to produce. Could just be starting from a random page in an old bible print, starting from the third letter of the second paragraph, and using it as a cipher.
Even if it's real AND gets solved, I doubt the treasure is still there. Anyone from the original group or their family members who know the location could've dug it up already.
Yeah but when someone of that era pokes their head out of the peasant world with 98 million dollars worth of gold people notice something like that and ask questions. It would be harder to believe that someone would live in poverty and sit on the gold then that it's still buried out there somewhere.
Putting the puzzle aside for a moment I can't help feeling that it is indeed an exercise in futility. If they did hide the gold then it's just too much to actually believe they couldn't find where they had hidden it. You would have had to be looking for a very specific location that the hider would have chosen after careful consideration. Certain aspects would have been very specific to him to just forget the location. Also, I'm not really understanding why they didn't just cash it all in when they had their hands on it and put the money in a bank which would have had the money insured by the US Govt should it be stolen etc. You've spent many months digging up the gold only to bury it and not benefit from the life-changing amount of money even when shared out equally. I don't see any benefit in not cashing it in immediately and then there are the amount of people who had a share, not one of them protested that they wanted the money immediately and not risk losing it all by trusting one guy to hide it? Nah, sorry, just not buying it. There is no logical reason to hide the gold and especially only one of them being trusted to hide it and know where it was. The supposed hider either stole the money and kept it all for himself then telling the rest of the men that he had forgotten the actual location. If he did tell them that then why couldn't he decipher the code he himself had written then entrust it to someone who could have ignored his request and found it himself. Just doesn't make any sense to me, nobody could be that stupid and not be subsequently murdered by the other guys for trying to bullshit them with the lost location bullshit. I would have tortured the shit out of him until he revealed the truth and I wouldn't have even entertained the idea he suffered from acute amnesia and had lost it. Anyway, the location was supposedly in the clues, how the fuck do you not only forget where you buried it but then also forget what the coded messages meant which reveal the location? Nice try Thoughty lol.
I think people like Friedman would spend their spare time trying to crack the code, not because they believed they were actually gonna find gold, but the prestige of solving the puzzle
I haven't seen anyone mention this so I'll do it myself. Whenever he says Beal Cypher I instantly think of Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls. I just found it interesting as this is most likely a purposeful reference lol.
I hate to admit this to everyone, but the party already recovered it long time ago. If you want more information, you need to start researching about James Jopling's Harkening Hill purchase and arrival of Castleton Johnson in the Peaks of Otter. To also give you a hint, research about the boulders toppled by a group of young man on Sharp top mountain and the removal of those stones that was later sent to Washington Monument, inscribed with "From otters summit, Virginia's Lofties Peak to crown a monument to Virginia's Noblest Son". Another hint, John Wood, Mary Polly-Dooley, Elizabeth Wood Smith played an important role to the party's success.(feel free to ask me questions)
As soon as I heard the innkeeper wrote a book with all the information and the ciphers, I thought that the whole thing is fake and a scheme to sell books and make a fortune. I also wondered why would Beale and friends just hide the treasure and not use it. Doesn't make sense.
Yeah and then they describe a dying world with several prophecies that will be fulfilled before several seemingly shapeless multidimensional beings would invade our world for reasons we cannot fathom.
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You should look into the treasures of The Wichita Mountains in South Western Oklahoma. It's a tale about Jessy James. There are people who have moved down there and have been looking for since the 1970's. Infact, libraries have old books on these tails. These books can not be removed from the libraries. The Wichita Mountains are a National park now.
Feels like it is a hoax just to sell pamphlets. Because i find it suspicious that the 2nd code is the only one thats been deciphered and coincidently is the list of treasures buried.🤔 If you saw how much is buried, of course you'll want to buy the pamphlet and try to find the gold.
What a mess of numbers! What about Fibonacci sequences with different base numbers. I.e. 11,11,22,33,55... or 3,3,6,9,15... The last one produces a repeating pattern of threes, sixes, and nines when reduced, like 15 becomes six. The one based sequence doesn't do that. The 3,6,9 pattern also gives us the 432 hz A note in music. The natural progressions are good for finding locations. I wish I had the time.
the video is awesome, quite interesting, great narration, entertaining, time flies as you dive deep into the story's mystery. immediately you want to learn more about this mysterious treasure that is hidden somewhere out there, and you begin to feel that you may be capable of finding it. the narration which includes animation is very easy to follow as you watch the detective narrator's facial expressions. this is a great way of spending time being entertained a la netflix style.
I heard the first 3 minutes and knew it was fake. You're telling me THIRTY DIRT POOR MEN TRAVELED UNTOLD PERILS THEN....BURIED IT ALL INSTEAD OF RETIRING EARLY!? Why would they bury it instead if trading their gold for cash then buying land and a home?
most likely fake, but if they really did find that much gold, I doubt they buried ALL of it, theyd probably bury what they didn’t need at the time. like a savings account or retirement fund, same concept.
@@mkobd Uh huh. That's how poor savage men from 200 years ago worked. They just all agreed and went to the bury site when they needed a wee bit of gold, leaving the rest for everyone else of course.
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can the puzzle be proven to be solvable? because solving the puzzle might be impossible, but if it could be proven to be solvable it might actually be worth looking at.
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Sounds like a fake story they made to profit from. What are the odds of the three parts, the one reveals decoded is the one that only shares the alleged treasure?
In Turkish there is a saying: A madman threw a stone into the well, forty geniuses couldn't retrieve it. "Bir deli kuyuya tas atmis, kirk akilli cikaramamis"
Even if it's real, I'd have strong doubts that some pioneer adventurer could make any good and proper cipher, let alone one that a bunch of experts can't solve
the second one that was solved had very very poor spelling when directly translated, maybe he had bad spelling, maybe he slightly miscounted what number a few letters were when making the code, maybe a bit of both? either way perhaps that's why computers can't solve it? perhaps computers would be looking for properly spelled words and couldn't find any because the real words are really badly spelled, thus making the code much harder to crack by complete accident
It's actually extremely easy to make a cipher no one can solve, just use the most random source material to translate from and boom a cipher that's virtually impossible to solve.
Just have to say I live not far from Montvale Virginia and you marked it in the wrong place on the map, Montvale is near Bedford Virginia in South Western Virginia. Great video, keep it up thoughty
I prefer applying logic rather than cryptology to solving this problem. In applying logic, there are two things wrong with this buried treasure story. One, what is to prevent one or more of Beale's fellow "hunters and opportunists" from sneaking back and stealing the treasure for themselves? I mean there were 30 in the original group. The chances are good that at least one of the 30 is dishonest enough to attempt to steal the gold from its hiding spot. And two, it seems that the encryption is meant for outsiders, those not related to Beale and his crew, in which case the treasure is probably long since gone, having been dug up by one or more of the relatives. Then again, why encrypt its location at all? It seems such a waste of time. The keys would surely be passed on to the relatives through their respective wills (Beale and his cohorts). This whole exercise is suspicious.
@@vincentcircharo8259 Automatic encoding and decoding of codes has existed since the 1930s (if not earlier.) Read up on the Enigma machine if you've never heard of it. I can guarantee someone has tried to run this through a modern, automated system.
It’s crazy how Beale someone in the 1800 was capable of writing such an amazing cipher. Which could connect the bible, magna Carter, Shakespeare and more all to find a simple bearing and instruction of the treasure. It’s amazing how smart people are
what i think is, the key book could be from Beal's personal journal. i highly doubt that he used another method other than the substitution, but the reason they cant crack it is they dotn have the key as no one else does only beal
Well you did kind of give a clue at the beginning of the video as for what the 3 ciphers entailed the 3rd being the names of the relatives of the party so has anyone ever done a search for the relatives of the party of the party come up with a list of names and throw it at the wall see what's stuck And the 1st cipher is supposed to have the location within you said estimated 4 miles of the small town so why not find the town that the Inn was inAnd then map it with satellite topographyAnd use a light R scanning plane to fly over the area within 10 milesRadius of the town Lydar has been used in in countries like Peru to find civilizationsAnd buildings hidden in the dense forestSome ground penetrating radarShould be able to tell you if there is a large quantity of metal in one congregated area
All I know is that it’s a mathematical equation or sequence that you would add, subtract, multiply, or divide the amount of numbers by each other to find coordinates, the red numbers more than likely being the key ones that you start with
Those numbers look EXACTLY like the results that come out of the encryption algorithm I wrote for photographic tokens. An image or set of images are the input and the output is a group of positive integers under 1000; each separated by a full stop. The output is saved as a .txt file and can be further compressed (but I've not yet perfected the compression algorithm). To decrypt, the computer needs to be on a certain destination device, be given a key, and verify itself with the origin of the encrypted file (something that is dependent on a combination of the first two and a proof that no changes have been made to the original file). The destination device is itself by default [-1], but that feature can be turned off before encryption [0] or it can be set by giving the algorithm the destination device's MAC address ['string value'], or it can also be auto-quarried by the program [1] if the user is not sure.
What about the first number is for the direction in the middle of the town and the second is the amound of steps u need to take to turn to the 3rd number again a direction. Im just brainstorming maybe this is it maybe not. Do with it what u want
i would say the clue would be in the second de cyphered, we know he used an official document as the cypher i wouldn't imagine it being random and it obviously meant something so maybe there are other well known literature that are relevant and important to Beale
There are other, BIG problems with the story. Considering the amount of "gold" and "silver", measured by tons, what is actually meant? Gold can make nuggets which can be washed out of streams and rivers. Not silver. Gold and silver strikes in the southwest have been hard rock mining. Schieffelin's strike at Tombstone, AZ for instance. There are tales of ledges of solid gold which could be picked free, for instance the "Lost Dutchman" mine which has never been found. Silver is found in stone, generally greenish in color. In the race for gold, silver ore was frequently tossed aside in the beginning. We see this in some Colorado sites as well as Virginia City, NV. That said, do we assume the Virginia treasure seekers dragged back over two tons of ore? How did they trade the ore for jewels in St. Louis? How was it measured? Why would adventurers from Virginia know they had silver ore since many over the next decades discarded silver while searching for gold? How many mules did it take to haul back that much ore? How much volume are we considering and how deep a hole was needed to bury it? There are tales of lost Spanish treasure in the American southwest. These treasures are rumored to be similar to what has been found on sunken ships. I suppose that could be a possibility but the treasure is not described that way. Jacqueline Kennedy had dotty relatives named Beale. ("Grey Gardens") That could be an interesting side story... LOL! ;-) (I have done a lot of work on the Voynich Manuscript and believe the language is older Serbo-Croatian -- Kajkavian for instance -- with Turkic and the writing is based upon Croatian Glagolitic cursive. I had COVID in early 2020 and it aggravated chronic, severe, genetic migraine. I have too many migraines to continue the work at this time. I did not watch your video because the subject is emotional for me, especially since I do not know if I will ever be well enough to resume work. I believe the VM is about fertility, sort of a medical book. Just before I had to stop work, I found this, "The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague." That is especially true at this time. LOL! One of my ancient in-laws may have been involved with the manuscript so I have a real life interest.)
It is remarkable that the second letter containing information about the amount of treasures that is berried is the only one that has been cracked and non of the others. The reason is to trigger greed and hopes of cracking the rest. The third letter is the one of less interest because no treasure hunter wants to find others that can claim their shear if the treasure is found. It is also remarkable that all of these miners agreed to let the treasure be hidden. It is more likely that they would have claimed their shear and lived a good life after that. It is more likely that this is the grandmother of the typical Nigeria letters that is now on the internet. The only person that benefits from the whole story is the mysterious code cracker. Besides today it should be possible to run the numbers through a computer to see if any combination makes some sense. You may need some widely available documents from that time to see if there is a match. My guess is that the Bible,the Declaration of Independence or the constitution would be a good choice. Newspaper articles or novels are unlikely keys to the puzzle.
The Lee Resolution (also known as "The Resolution for Independence") had 3 parts. Declaration of Independence Plan of treaties to be proposed to foreign powers Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union We know are 3 coded papers, wonder if they relate to the 3 parts. As one has been solved I expect the other two are real to beable to be (whether the overall story is a hoax is another thing). Ive only just come across this, interesting story, my hunch it may all relate around the independence. Do the numbers go backwards from the end, repeat where start again if numbers run out in terms of words, last letter of a word, so many possibilities.
0:23 You know what Thoughty2? When the son of the deposed king of Nigeria emails you directly, asking you for help, you help. His father ran the freaking country. Okay?
I don't see what's hard about them at all. In fact if just simply convert the numbers to letters then they say "go up there to Virginia and go on down that road for about 50.62 miles and hook ya left there on that road with big ole tree next to it. Go down about 2 tenths of a mile and merge right at the fork and take that there bridge over the creek and just past it a about 84 feet there's a rock that's a big un and you gotta toss that rock off the bridge and watch the ripples as it goes and on the last ripple look on the right of the bank and they'll be big ole elm tree. Go down there and dig up a small box that will contain the key to the lock box. After that you get back on your horse and go back the way you came. Except once you get at the fork where you merged right you keep on going down there road a good little bit. About 14 miles or until your rump is good and sore from the long ride. They'll be an old barn with a broken down wagon and 5 chickens and one rooster and an ornery old hound dog named Jumper. Cause he'll jump up on ya. Anyways directly across from the barn with the broken wagon 5 chickens a rooster and an ornery dog name Jumper you'll see three trees in a perfect line. Walk to the middle tree and turn to your left. Count out 12 paces and look directly down. What do you see? Pull out the key and get ready as you look down at what you think is the fortune of a lifetime and just know that right under your feet is nothing but dirt because like the ciphers it's all a load of horse crap and fake as it gets"....... 🤣
I live in Montvale and we have had so many people come look for it. So far nothing. Not even a good coin. The Buford’s Inn building still stands along 460 but its a private residence now. Not to mention it’s a small town so if someone found it, we’d all know thru word of mouth by now 😆
Lol I live in St Louis almost everyone pronounces it with a hard S. So St.lewis not St.louie. You are actually correct but it just changed over time. Some still pronounce it that way because there is a large portion of French and Italian settlers. But we usually only pronounce it that way in a facetious manner.
Easy, find all Locations Beale traversed and go to the nearest beach, find the cove in Virginia and dig 60 feet in circumference, 24 feet down, and come back and thank me by sharing it with me when ya find it.
if that Innkeeper forgot about the box for 23 years, i bet the letter came either 10 years on the dime and the Innkeeper threw it out thinking it was junkmail or it came at some other time and someone else opened it and didn't know what it was and threw it out, or he did that, one of those possibilities
Stupid suggestion, but what if letter one's code is a likewise substitution cipher. But the key is the 2nd letter. And third letters code is based on 1st lettee
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The real treasure was the revenue from the book.
I'm not gonna bother trying. But, I trust you will let us know when it's solved
@@stephenhurd1489 Stanford/Google will probably solve it soon, they have Time Crystals now so i expect to hear some mind blowing news in the next few years.
Is this stuff still unsolved?
Imagine if it translates to “the real treasure was the friends we made along the way ”
I would murder all of them.
It's not the destination, It's the journey
So one piece
"The real treasure is the absurd amount of time you've spent to decipher it which you will never get back".
i think you've just solved the One Piece
Also let's be honest if somebody was smart enough to actually solve the ciphers and track down the treasure, they were probably smart enough to not publicly announce it 😭
Lol
The others will announce it, 😆
I don't know why, but this comment reminded me of The Game.
Exactly what I was going to comment ,both dead and undead relatives/partners of expdition crew and all involved would showup on your doorstep asking for their cut.
@David Smith that would be sick.
It would be funny if Beale retrieved the treasure himself without notifying the innkeeper…
That is one of the popular theories, that Beale or someone else with knowledge of the location retrieved the treasure. There would be no need to bother with the encrypted documents if that was the case.
Thats why if you solve the Cypher, the best thing you could do is sell the key and not chase the treasure
Polak??
@@awkwardllama0509 why not chase the treasure and then sell the key?
Same token I think they would of left atleast 1% of something which because of the story would mean it would be worth a 1000% of its original.
Quite the intriguing story. A true mystery, to be sure. I'm really curious to know how you stumbled about this mystery. I live in the United States and I've never heard of it until now.
By the way, I love your channel and your stories. The way you tell them is captivating.
Try the Bible
There are other RUclips channels that have done stories about this.
Nothing mysterious about it. It's an obvious scam...
@@BryceHomier17 I kinda have the feeler too. Maybe it is a little more complicated than that...
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I like to think the cipher is real, but the key was in something so innocuous and mundane, like probably the local newspaper or a diary, that Thomas knew no matter how much anyone tried, nobody could ever hope to open it.
Although the most incredible part of the story, and strongest point of doubt, is not the size of the treasure itself, _but how none of the original explorers betrayed and killed each other for it._ People have done far worse for so much more less, so who knows, lolz.
The key will be something that the families know about. A favorite bedtime story, a popular book or even the family Bible. (there are so many different versions)
As for your second point, they might have killed each other. There is no trace of the expedition before, during or after.
It's is almost like it was a pact between brothers in arms in a sense.
I agree with what you said about the cyper is real and might be in a news paper or what not.
But I do think it could be a treasure buried but it's wealth I'd the knowledge used to find it.
First example the second cypher is the well what most Americans find the most important text. So if this is the first but the first is the second. And it could all be mixed up what is the second and third most important text?? 🤔
I think they would have some bible play in it maybe for the first cypher but the 3rd no ideas.
You're on to something there if it's all true that is...if it was me I'd use my diary (if I used one) as its the most personal item to an individual so therefore less chance of it being found. I personally think its a load of pot wash but if it turns out to be true then I'll be dammed 😂
*"Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead."* - Benjamin Franklin
It was probably the birthdate of a relative or something along those lines. Might also of been the year in which it was buried. Also, many people don't believe in curses but.. Bastards killed each other for it. It's 100% cursed.
The biggest argument for this being a scam is the common sense fact that miners would not bury gold but spend it . It's a ludicrous story proving that scamming is not new and that Barnum's words were true then as they are now "There's a sucker born every minute"..
There is long history thousands of years of people burying their valuables for protection if you thought there was a chance someone was going to rob you wouldn't you put it in a hole that you know where it was so that they couldn't
There's certainly suckers born every minute...like the ones who believe everything the mainstream media and the government say and believe that they care...
"A fool and his money are soon parted" except nowadays you can swap time on the place of money.
Ah I get it.
He solved the puzzle, found the treasure, pretended he didn't, and made more money off that premise.
Or more likely the whole story is fake.
No its fake. The person was selling a dream. That’s some next level of genius if he able to scam so many people.
plot twist, the puzzle doesn't lead to any treasure.
I just deciphered it. It's the lyrics to Rick Astley's "Never Gonna Give You Up".
I have actually solved it.... watch BBC or Sky News I'm the morning, maybe CNN
Yea I got second place they’re right
Truly, they were ahead of their time
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I almost always feel I’m watching a documentary in cartoon fashion with this channel! Quite fun if I should say. 😃
I found him today and am in love. Usually I don’t learn anything on RUclips. But watching him it’s interesting and keeps me watching to the end props to him
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So they travelled about 2000 miles , dug up a pile of gold , retraced those 2000 miles , then buried the pile of gold .
Methinks Beale had nigerian royal blood in his veins .
My thoughts exactly 😂
I think the person who sold it has Jewish blood in him 🤔
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I think his narration is on point too! Shout out from the U.S I watch your videos all the time you fill my brain with euphoric and new found information like a zap to my head I appreciate the time and dedication you take into making your RUclips videos! Your work is valued and appreciated.
Found your channel some weeks ago and I loved it and loved you too. I felt so embarrassed hearing Nigeria Prince, I am aware there are shady people in Nigeria but also around the world too. Please don't think all Nigerians are scammers, some of us are very brilliant, hardworking and god-fearing. I apologize to those who were victims of Nigerian- prince scam. Please, there are also good people here, who genuinely loves the western people and their culture.
I dont anyone thinks you guys are scammers. Its mostly india lol
i’ve been binge watching your content since a week. my youtube screen time 3 hours a day 😂 your narration skills are insane, absolutely love your channel!
love from india
only 3 hours?
You gotta bump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers.
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Good job man, i really need to lessen my screen time lol
Even assuming the story is true, someone could have figured out the code and grabbed the gold decades ago. Or one of Beale's team went and retrieved it, and had the good sense to keep his mouth shut.
Yep, probably the gold is gone!
I think Beale was the biggest troll in history
I don't remember where but I heard about this story before but had since forgotten, thanks for reminding me of it. I've always loved stuff like this and the story is just so interesting to me because of that.
*sniff sniff* aye, that's definitely white. Great video as always but sounds like another grift from the United states of grifters, shifters and shizters.
Forget the ciphers, with extensive land explorations/developments and the ubiquitous availability of a myriad of advanced technological gadgets and detection methods, no buried treasure of that size would have remained hidden for that long.
Gotta wonder how many people have set up bots and fed them every piece of literature from the time they could, and all books and papers they could find, and had them run them as ciphers starting from every letter individually. Just millions of calculations instantly generating results that would take humans eons to produce. Could just be starting from a random page in an old bible print, starting from the third letter of the second paragraph, and using it as a cipher.
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With that amount of money, you could get enough gas to fill two cars up
Sheesh that's a lot of money
@@Samhayayama And a lot of gas!
You're confusing your inflating fiat currency with gold and silver which has real value and isn't attached to the petro dollar.
Hah!! That's funny, because nobody owns TWO cars... Fuel is too expensive...
@@evelynn4273 You're taking a joke too seriously.
That CBA joke was absolutely perfect. You saw the opportunity and took it. Bravo👏
I didn't get the joke would you mind helping me lol
@@navygravy3735 British slang for Can't Be Arsed lol (it means can't be bothered to care enough basically)
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@@navygravy3735 u man or woman ?
@@rainofrest7778 your mom
Even if it's real AND gets solved, I doubt the treasure is still there. Anyone from the original group or their family members who know the location could've dug it up already.
Yeah but when someone of that era pokes their head out of the peasant world with 98 million dollars worth of gold people notice something like that and ask questions. It would be harder to believe that someone would live in poverty and sit on the gold then that it's still buried out there somewhere.
@3:00 Your map seems to be missing the north-western part of Virginia.
Putting the puzzle aside for a moment I can't help feeling that it is indeed an exercise in futility. If they did hide the gold then it's just too much to actually believe they couldn't find where they had hidden it. You would have had to be looking for a very specific location that the hider would have chosen after careful consideration. Certain aspects would have been very specific to him to just forget the location. Also, I'm not really understanding why they didn't just cash it all in when they had their hands on it and put the money in a bank which would have had the money insured by the US Govt should it be stolen etc.
You've spent many months digging up the gold only to bury it and not benefit from the life-changing amount of money even when shared out equally. I don't see any benefit in not cashing it in immediately and then there are the amount of people who had a share, not one of them protested that they wanted the money immediately and not risk losing it all by trusting one guy to hide it?
Nah, sorry, just not buying it. There is no logical reason to hide the gold and especially only one of them being trusted to hide it and know where it was.
The supposed hider either stole the money and kept it all for himself then telling the rest of the men that he had forgotten the actual location. If he did tell them that then why couldn't he decipher the code he himself had written then entrust it to someone who could have ignored his request and found it himself.
Just doesn't make any sense to me, nobody could be that stupid and not be subsequently murdered by the other guys for trying to bullshit them with the lost location bullshit.
I would have tortured the shit out of him until he revealed the truth and I wouldn't have even entertained the idea he suffered from acute amnesia and had lost it. Anyway, the location was supposedly in the clues, how the fuck do you not only forget where you buried it but then also forget what the coded messages meant which reveal the location?
Nice try Thoughty lol.
I think people like Friedman would spend their spare time trying to crack the code, not because they believed they were actually gonna find gold, but the prestige of solving the puzzle
I haven't seen anyone mention this so I'll do it myself. Whenever he says Beal Cypher I instantly think of Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls. I just found it interesting as this is most likely a purposeful reference lol.
THANK YOU! I was looking for this comment
Yea it's purposeful reference to the Beal cypher......
Plot twist: the two are completely unrelated and it's just a coincidence
@@zp944 I found that funnier than I should have lmao
2:18 man. I LOVE THE FRANCE FLAG at the bottom right
Beale Cipers : Bill Cipher. Gravity Falls never ceases to amaze me.
I hate to admit this to everyone, but the party already recovered it long time ago. If you want more information, you need to start researching about James Jopling's Harkening Hill purchase and arrival of Castleton Johnson in the Peaks of Otter.
To also give you a hint, research about the boulders toppled by a group of young man on Sharp top mountain and the removal of those stones that was later sent to Washington Monument, inscribed with "From otters summit, Virginia's Lofties Peak to crown a monument to Virginia's Noblest Son".
Another hint, John Wood, Mary Polly-Dooley, Elizabeth Wood Smith played an important role to the party's success.(feel free to ask me questions)
As soon as I heard the innkeeper wrote a book with all the information and the ciphers, I thought that the whole thing is fake and a scheme to sell books and make a fortune.
I also wondered why would Beale and friends just hide the treasure and not use it. Doesn't make sense.
When we look through history more often than not, logic is subjective
How much of a trip would it be if the source cyphers ended up being documents that didn't even exist at the time?
Yeah and then they describe a dying world with several prophecies that will be fulfilled before several seemingly shapeless multidimensional beings would invade our world for reasons we cannot fathom.
Like another cipher text solved?
I was thinking a similar thing. Once the first is solved, it becomes the key.
I want the key to be hidden in some weird tweet from 2014
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I have a little giggle every time you say "Saint Louie" for St. Louis. It just sounds so funny; I live rather close to ol' Saint Louie.
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“The real prize is all the deciphering fun we’re having.” What am I going to do with that?
You should look into the treasures of The Wichita Mountains in South Western Oklahoma. It's a tale about Jessy James.
There are people who have moved down there and have been looking for since the 1970's.
Infact, libraries have old books on these tails. These books can not be removed from the libraries.
The Wichita Mountains are a National park now.
Feels like it is a hoax just to sell pamphlets.
Because i find it suspicious that the 2nd code is the only one thats been deciphered and coincidently is the list of treasures buried.🤔
If you saw how much is buried, of course you'll want to buy the pamphlet and try to find the gold.
I find it more suspicious that these guys would bury their gold and silver instead of cashing it in.
What a mess of numbers!
What about Fibonacci sequences with different base numbers. I.e. 11,11,22,33,55... or 3,3,6,9,15... The last one produces a repeating pattern of threes, sixes, and nines when reduced, like 15 becomes six. The one based sequence doesn't do that.
The 3,6,9 pattern also gives us the 432 hz A note in music.
The natural progressions are good for finding locations.
I wish I had the time.
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7:13 that's why I clicked this video(!) and then you trample on my soul by expressing the exact 4 reasons afterwards.
Well done. Deserves a slow-clap.
the video is awesome, quite interesting, great narration, entertaining, time flies as you dive deep into the story's mystery. immediately you want to learn more about this mysterious treasure that is hidden somewhere out there, and you begin to feel that you may be capable of finding it. the narration which includes animation is very easy to follow as you watch the detective narrator's facial expressions. this is a great way of spending time being entertained a la netflix style.
i like it when 'shaun' dunks on you.
cheers, dork.
Imagine someone actually cracks it, goes to the location and finds a picture of Rick Astley.
What if the innkeeper cracked the code and it wasn't buried treasure, but instead an elaborate plan to sell treasure maps and make a fortune?
Imagine the second page is the cipher for the third and the third is a cipher for the first..
But in some weird or backwards order
Yes I thought that too. But I am sure someone have tried that
Oh Gravity Falls, how i miss you so.
Thank you for making my childhood magical and fun.
😊
I heard the first 3 minutes and knew it was fake. You're telling me THIRTY DIRT POOR MEN TRAVELED UNTOLD PERILS THEN....BURIED IT ALL INSTEAD OF RETIRING EARLY!? Why would they bury it instead if trading their gold for cash then buying land and a home?
most likely fake, but if they really did find that much gold, I doubt they buried ALL of it, theyd probably bury what they didn’t need at the time. like a savings account or retirement fund, same concept.
@@mkobd Uh huh. That's how poor savage men from 200 years ago worked. They just all agreed and went to the bury site when they needed a wee bit of gold, leaving the rest for everyone else of course.
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can the puzzle be proven to be solvable? because solving the puzzle might be impossible, but if it could be proven to be solvable it might actually be worth looking at.
I have solved it.... Watch the news in the morning
@@bigshagger8277 which locality?
The second one was solved already
If you have the source material, then it's a piece of cake. Without it, you'll never solve it in a million years.
I'll pick it up for you if you want, just tell me where it is. Delivery free of charge ofc.
Wow, Thoughty2 looking dapper! As much as I loved the twirly-stache, he’s looking like a dashing English bloke.
R.I.P Twirly-stache, u will me missed but never forgotten
Sounds like a fake story they made to profit from.
What are the odds of the three parts, the one reveals decoded is the one that only shares the alleged treasure?
Expert here, the chances are 5/7
Exactly 1/3
In Turkish there is a saying: A madman threw a stone into the well, forty geniuses couldn't retrieve it. "Bir deli kuyuya tas atmis, kirk akilli cikaramamis"
Even if it's real, I'd have strong doubts that some pioneer adventurer could make any good and proper cipher, let alone one that a bunch of experts can't solve
I’d find it so funny if all of this is because he actually couldn’t, and it’s done so badly that it’s indecipherable and just doesn’t make sense
the second one that was solved had very very poor spelling when directly translated, maybe he had bad spelling, maybe he slightly miscounted what number a few letters were when making the code, maybe a bit of both? either way perhaps that's why computers can't solve it? perhaps computers would be looking for properly spelled words and couldn't find any because the real words are really badly spelled, thus making the code much harder to crack by complete accident
It's actually extremely easy to make a cipher no one can solve, just use the most random source material to translate from and boom a cipher that's virtually impossible to solve.
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u give me so many answers to my dnd plot problems
So I've clicked on this video with the hope that I could be a millionaire or a genius but nope I am dumb af just like always😂
Dummies unite!✌️🤣
Not even 30mins ago this video was posted, and already 10,000 people have watched it before me... Thoughty2 is on a roll.
There is a missing comma in the title of the video.
It should be: "If you can solve this puzzle, you're a millionaire"
Dont worry, it'll change before the day is through lol
The comma helps but it'd be even better if it just says you'll be instead of you're
@@somerandomweeb4836 Makes sense.
Just have to say I live not far from Montvale Virginia and you marked it in the wrong place on the map, Montvale is near Bedford Virginia in South Western Virginia. Great video, keep it up thoughty
When you realise you could just ask Beal's relatives , cuz he created the cypher for them :-
I prefer applying logic rather than cryptology to solving this problem. In applying logic, there are two things wrong with this buried treasure story. One, what is to prevent one or more of Beale's fellow "hunters and opportunists" from sneaking back and stealing the treasure for themselves? I mean there were 30 in the original group. The chances are good that at least one of the 30 is dishonest enough to attempt to steal the gold from its hiding spot. And two, it seems that the encryption is meant for outsiders, those not related to Beale and his crew, in which case the treasure is probably long since gone, having been dug up by one or more of the relatives. Then again, why encrypt its location at all? It seems such a waste of time. The keys would surely be passed on to the relatives through their respective wills (Beale and his cohorts). This whole exercise is suspicious.
I dunno... Early American miners and incredibly complex coding.... Together? Very hard to believe 🤣
This is a simple form of cryptography but still hard to solve with no key
@@vincentcircharo8259 Automatic encoding and decoding of codes has existed since the 1930s (if not earlier.) Read up on the Enigma machine if you've never heard of it. I can guarantee someone has tried to run this through a modern, automated system.
It’s crazy how Beale someone in the 1800 was capable of writing such an amazing cipher. Which could connect the bible, magna Carter, Shakespeare and more all to find a simple bearing and instruction of the treasure. It’s amazing how smart people are
congrats to everyone who is early and who found this comment have a good day
Looks like a lot of us are.
A thank you good sir how do you do
What comment?
There’s only 37 min left of the day 😢😢
Love these types of videos from you
I already solved the cipher. It was a document asking about my cars extended warranty.
what i think is, the key book could be from Beal's personal journal. i highly doubt that he used another method other than the substitution, but the reason they cant crack it is they dotn have the key as no one else does only beal
Well you did kind of give a clue at the beginning of the video as for what the 3 ciphers entailed the 3rd being the names of the relatives of the party so has anyone ever done a search for the relatives of the party of the party come up with a list of names and throw it at the wall see what's stuck
And the 1st cipher is supposed to have the location within you said estimated 4 miles of the small town so why not find the town that the Inn was inAnd then map it with satellite topographyAnd use a light R scanning plane to fly over the area within 10 milesRadius of the town
Lydar has been used in in countries like Peru to find civilizationsAnd buildings hidden in the dense forestSome ground penetrating radarShould be able to tell you if there is a large quantity of metal in one congregated area
The one who solved the location detail has no incentives to declare this in public, just retrieve the gold treasure and disappear
That was bealey interesting
All I know is that it’s a mathematical equation or sequence that you would add, subtract, multiply, or divide the amount of numbers by each other to find coordinates, the red numbers more than likely being the key ones that you start with
Those numbers look EXACTLY like the results that come out of the encryption algorithm I wrote for photographic tokens. An image or set of images are the input and the output is a group of positive integers under 1000; each separated by a full stop. The output is saved as a .txt file and can be further compressed (but I've not yet perfected the compression algorithm). To decrypt, the computer needs to be on a certain destination device, be given a key, and verify itself with the origin of the encrypted file (something that is dependent on a combination of the first two and a proof that no changes have been made to the original file). The destination device is itself by default [-1], but that feature can be turned off before encryption [0] or it can be set by giving the algorithm the destination device's MAC address ['string value'], or it can also be auto-quarried by the program [1] if the user is not sure.
Have you tried to run the decryption with the numbers yet? I'm curious about the result
guy had a PC in 1820 ofc
What about the first number is for the direction in the middle of the town and the second is the amound of steps u need to take to turn to the 3rd number again a direction. Im just brainstorming maybe this is it maybe not. Do with it what u want
Arran, that was a sensational story! Thank you.
i would say the clue would be in the second de cyphered, we know he used an official document as the cypher i wouldn't imagine it being random and it obviously meant something so maybe there are other well known literature that are relevant and important to Beale
There are other, BIG problems with the story. Considering the amount of "gold" and "silver", measured by tons, what is actually meant? Gold can make nuggets which can be washed out of streams and rivers. Not silver. Gold and silver strikes in the southwest have been hard rock mining. Schieffelin's strike at Tombstone, AZ for instance. There are tales of ledges of solid gold which could be picked free, for instance the "Lost Dutchman" mine which has never been found. Silver is found in stone, generally greenish in color. In the race for gold, silver ore was frequently tossed aside in the beginning. We see this in some Colorado sites as well as Virginia City, NV.
That said, do we assume the Virginia treasure seekers dragged back over two tons of ore? How did they trade the ore for jewels in St. Louis? How was it measured? Why would adventurers from Virginia know they had silver ore since many over the next decades discarded silver while searching for gold? How many mules did it take to haul back that much ore? How much volume are we considering and how deep a hole was needed to bury it?
There are tales of lost Spanish treasure in the American southwest. These treasures are rumored to be similar to what has been found on sunken ships. I suppose that could be a possibility but the treasure is not described that way.
Jacqueline Kennedy had dotty relatives named Beale. ("Grey Gardens") That could be an interesting side story... LOL! ;-)
(I have done a lot of work on the Voynich Manuscript and believe the language is older Serbo-Croatian -- Kajkavian for instance -- with Turkic and the writing is based upon Croatian Glagolitic cursive. I had COVID in early 2020 and it aggravated chronic, severe, genetic migraine. I have too many migraines to continue the work at this time. I did not watch your video because the subject is emotional for me, especially since I do not know if I will ever be well enough to resume work. I believe the VM is about fertility, sort of a medical book. Just before I had to stop work, I found this, "The wickedness of the world is the dream of the plague." That is especially true at this time. LOL! One of my ancient in-laws may have been involved with the manuscript so I have a real life interest.)
Thank you for sharing your video!
0:08 no
00:08 - It means that I'm probably not going to become a millionaire if that's what you're asking
15:44 THE STAINS OF TIME
It is remarkable that the second letter containing information about the amount of treasures that is berried is the only one that has been cracked and non of the others. The reason is to trigger greed and hopes of cracking the rest. The third letter is the one of less interest because no treasure hunter wants to find others that can claim their shear if the treasure is found. It is also remarkable that all of these miners agreed to let the treasure be hidden. It is more likely that they would have claimed their shear and lived a good life after that. It is more likely that this is the grandmother of the typical Nigeria letters that is now on the internet. The only person that benefits from the whole story is the mysterious code cracker. Besides today it should be possible to run the numbers through a computer to see if any combination makes some sense. You may need some widely available documents from that time to see if there is a match. My guess is that the Bible,the Declaration of Independence or the constitution would be a good choice. Newspaper articles or novels are unlikely keys to the puzzle.
How did it take me until today to realize he says “hey there thoughty two here” and not “hey there 42 here”
The Lee Resolution (also known as "The Resolution for Independence") had 3 parts. Declaration of Independence
Plan of treaties to be proposed to foreign powers
Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union
We know are 3 coded papers, wonder if they relate to the 3 parts. As one has been solved I expect the other two are real to beable to be (whether the overall story is a hoax is another thing). Ive only just come across this, interesting story, my hunch it may all relate around the independence. Do the numbers go backwards from the end, repeat where start again if numbers run out in terms of words, last letter of a word, so many possibilities.
0:23 You know what Thoughty2? When the son of the deposed king of Nigeria emails you directly, asking you for help, you help. His father ran the freaking country. Okay?
i link when 42 winks at the end . what a cool guy .
Should use the substitution on the other papers.
Fantastic video!
I live in NM and this makes sense but I've never heard this
I don't see what's hard about them at all. In fact if just simply convert the numbers to letters then they say "go up there to Virginia and go on down that road for about 50.62 miles and hook ya left there on that road with big ole tree next to it. Go down about 2 tenths of a mile and merge right at the fork and take that there bridge over the creek and just past it a about 84 feet there's a rock that's a big un and you gotta toss that rock off the bridge and watch the ripples as it goes and on the last ripple look on the right of the bank and they'll be big ole elm tree. Go down there and dig up a small box that will contain the key to the lock box. After that you get back on your horse and go back the way you came. Except once you get at the fork where you merged right you keep on going down there road a good little bit. About 14 miles or until your rump is good and sore from the long ride. They'll be an old barn with a broken down wagon and 5 chickens and one rooster and an ornery old hound dog named Jumper. Cause he'll jump up on ya. Anyways directly across from the barn with the broken wagon 5 chickens a rooster and an ornery dog name Jumper you'll see three trees in a perfect line. Walk to the middle tree and turn to your left. Count out 12 paces and look directly down. What do you see? Pull out the key and get ready as you look down at what you think is the fortune of a lifetime and just know that right under your feet is nothing but dirt because like the ciphers it's all a load of horse crap and fake as it gets"....... 🤣
9:13 I forget his name, he wrote that book, Utopia.
I live in Montvale and we have had so many people come look for it. So far nothing. Not even a good coin. The Buford’s Inn building still stands along 460 but its a private residence now. Not to mention it’s a small town so if someone found it, we’d all know thru word of mouth by now 😆
Lol I live in St Louis almost everyone pronounces it with a hard S. So St.lewis not St.louie. You are actually correct but it just changed over time. Some still pronounce it that way because there is a large portion of French and Italian settlers.
But we usually only pronounce it that way in a facetious manner.
Easy, find all Locations Beale traversed and go to the nearest beach, find the cove in Virginia and dig 60 feet in circumference, 24 feet down, and come back and thank me by sharing it with me when ya find it.
if that Innkeeper forgot about the box for 23 years, i bet the letter came either 10 years on the dime and the Innkeeper threw it out thinking it was junkmail or it came at some other time and someone else opened it and didn't know what it was and threw it out, or he did that, one of those possibilities
Thanks
Stupid suggestion, but what if letter one's code is a likewise substitution cipher. But the key is the 2nd letter. And third letters code is based on 1st lettee
That's crazy to think the treasure is still somewhere.