Merry Christmas all! This video is a compilation of some of the strange disappearnces that I've covered over the last year. There will probably be one more for next week before I get properly set up again for the week following I hope you're all having a great time. Be safe
There is a guy who went missing near where I live, quite a number of years ago now. I don't think his case has ever been covered by anyone on RUclips. Not that I know of. Probably because no one knows about it! His name was Theodore Leonard Dengerud, and he went missing on 3 April of 1982, in rural Swift County, Minnesota. Ted, as he was known, was last seen in Sunburg, which is in neighbouring Kandiyohi County, asking for directions, as he was somewhat lost. A day or so later, his car was found crashed into a small tree off a road in rural Swift County. Ted was no where to be seen, and he has never been found. No one knows what happened. The police in both Swift and Kandiyohi Counties, think that after having a small accident, Ted may have wandered off and later perished of exposure. But, no one knows for sure. He was married, and had a baby daughter. His daughter must be an adult now and is probably also a married woman, as well. I know it is not a classic 411 case, but Ted Dengerud is still missing and his remains have never been found. I would love to see someone cover his case, and I didn't know if you would be interested or not, but there you go. Ted's case can be found on DoeNetwork under the missing males for Minnesota. It would be so cool if Ted's remains can be found. His wife and especially his daughter, deserve that. They have never really had closure. Great video, as always! I love your narration and your voice, and you cover a lot of interesting cases. Thank you!
It's sad to consider, but the easiest explanation is that Arnold and Ruby left the car to perhaps try and get help and, being drunk and confused - possibly injured - after the crash, walked along the ditch instead of going up to the road. Perhaps there was a steep incline and they were trying to find a spot to scale it. It is absolutely, unfortunately normal that the police just don't try when it comes to cases involving First Nations people. It wouldn't surprise me if they just missed that they were there because they didn't look beyond the immediate crash site. As for the varying decomposition; there's so many variables that could influence that that it also doesn't seem that weird to me. I'd say the shoes missing would be weird to me, but it's not. I don't know if it would have happened here, but taking the shoes and outwear of First Nations people that cops consider 'troublesome' and sending them for a 'night walk' is very much a thing that happens. It's appalling. Basically, at the end of it, my instinct is to literally never trust anything that cops say when it comes to the disappearances and murders of First Nations people.
@@chloedoritoloco8537 even worse...they were Native Americans. most police don't put much effort when it comes to Natives. I remember this from Unsolved Mysteries. Tracy seemed so shook over it all, they were close and she didn't think Ruby would've abandoned her.
When you started to speak of Indigenous peoples, I had to check to see if it was me that typed this lol you sound just like me. Please continue to spread the word about the night walks - people seriously do not know about this! Even after #NODAPL -- you'd think awareness would be better honed but... Much love from this tiny portion of the Ojibwe, RoundSeal.
I had no idea about the cops taking Native people's shoes! I do however know that there are many missing Native women! That the media pays no attention to. I live close to the Navajo Nation. The way they treat the Native people's is disgusting!
Two bodies that died at the same time in the same location could have varying rates of decomposition because one of them was in a part of the ditch that was shallow, the sin warms the water quicker, decomp begins sooner and occurs more frequently than a body that was perhaps in a part of the ditch with deeper water or with a tree shading it from the sun, meaning the ice doesn't thaw as easily or as quickly preserving the body better. The same read snow stays longer on the side of a house that's shaded from the afternoon sun. Just a thought about how you can have significant differences in decomp in the same place at the same time.
That's what I think water speeds up decomposition but if it was cold and ice wouldn't that kind of froze and preserve the bodies how did they not find footsteps in the snow leaving the vehicle and find a hole in the ice almost makes me think that they were ran off the road by another vehicle and wore taking but how could they have movd the decomposing bodiies and the corners not notice
I would think the cops investigation was not thorough or they didn't try but if that were the case they would have tried to cover it up and not say they thought something else happened like foul Play
Being that Tracy was in a state of confusion, she may have thought that she was talking to Ruby after the accident when in reality, it was likely prior to the occurrence of the accident. I'm fairly certain they both died in the accident, by being ejected from the car or shortly afterward. It's also possible that the car landed on top of Arnold, essentially pinning him under the water/ice. As for the difference in decomposition, it's known that in places where oxygen in low, decomposition is delayed. You need look no further than the mummified bog bodies, for evidence of this. After all, it was noted that the water needed to be drained, in order to locate Arnold's body.
To begin with, Arnold’s body was submerged. His body was also found not frozen to the ground like Ruby’s. The problem isn’t that they decomposed at different rates. The problem is that everything surrounding the location of each body indicated that Arnold’s should have decomposed a lot faster, but in fact, the opposite occurred. Ruby’s remains were in such a bad state that they were only sure it was her when someone managed to recognize a tattoo on her body while Arnold’s body was relatively fresh. The second problem was that these remain were basically found in a ditch that everyone should have seen the moment they looked into it. Or at least that’s what everybody, not just the cops, who actually saw the accident site and where the bodies were found, believed. There were people who claimed they walked right by the ditch and didn’t see them, even though they should have. And finally, there’s people who have claimed to have seen Arnold after his supposed death, alive. The Sheriff also says that Arnold had a set of keys on him, a vehicle key and a couple of house keys, that he has never been able to match to anywhere. That doesn’t mean that I necessarily believe foul play was involved. Occam’s Razor suggests the simplest explanation is the right one, which, in this case, is that they died of exposure. And that actually is the official finding of the autopsies, which I would think would not be the case if the cops were trying to cover up a botched investigation. They could easily have it be indeterminate or something like that. And I’m quite sure that people who saw the evidence were quite capable of reasoning it out the same as you have. It doesn’t mean they can’t be wrong, anymore that you can. But I do understand why many people involved in the case or close to the victims believe there’s something funny about the accident, even if I don’t hold the same opinion. And it has nothing to do with what the police did or did not do. It’s more that most people thought the police shouldn’t have had to search for the bodies, period. They should have been right there, and they were…a few months later.
Idk if I'd word It like that.. after all, we want to send love & support to these families. These are horrific incidents. We shouldn't be celebrating anything besides justice for the family. I love true crime, but reading some comments like this worries me, we need to make sure we are still understanding these are REAL people with REAL hurting families that can see this. I know you meant well, but just take a moment to think about the families' healing from these traumatic events.
Paul is under a rock and shaleslide...I imagine he went of trail, slipped, slid down loosening material as he slid, this caused a larger slide which followed behind him, covering his tracks, scent and ultimately his body...he's under rubble somewhere on that mountain.
@welsh.truth.dragon3914 Obviously this is just a theory, I know nothing for certain, I'm just a chump on RUclips. In the segment its mentioned early on that the mountain has a large amount of loose shale and material, and that runners were told about how hard going some parts could be. Add this to his poor eyesight and the fog and rain that came in shortly after he was last seen and you have seriously poor visability. He could easily have lost his way, wondered off the main pathway onto some loose material, slipped, slid down a section disturbing more material as he slid, possibly causing something like a small avalanch. This material then buries him wherever he came to rest, possibly unconscious, injured or even dead, or the weight of the material is such that he can't escape, and this is where he may still be. It would explain the lack of tracks, it would explain why both search and cadaver dogs got no scent, it would explain why thermal imaging picked nothing up, it would explain why no items were found and why no body could be seen anywhere. Wherever he slipped would probably look no different to how it usually looks due to the shale regularly sliding down as it does. As I said, its just an idea, but it does fit the location, the conditions, and does give a plausible explanation to the more mysterious elements.
I hope that OP don't minde me. I just wanted to share that Arnold and Ruby was also aired on Unsolved Mysteries tv show, narrated by legendary Robert Stack. Such a strange story it chill me till the bone.
If the ditch had to be drained before Arnolds body was found, he was fully immersed in the water therefore decompostion time would differ especially if it was freezing. I dont believe Ruby was shouting for for help before leaving the vehicle and Tracy on her own. I think its plausable this was Tracy hallucinating as she was unconscious. I think they were both ejected from the car during the accident.
Underrated comment... I think thats very likely and since they went off Tracy's story it'd a total mystery however if you hadn't heard the story from her there wouldn't be much mystery at all. How sad. 😢
Why is it that law enforcement always seems so shady in these missing person cases, like they're trying to cover something up? Shockingly incompetent search teams, gross negligence, complete lack of urgency from police captains, laughably lazy and obviously incorrect conclusions... it's so strange.
Thank you! I don't plan on stopping, there are lots of these kinds of disappearances that I want to cover, should also have some other interesting topics for next year too
I went to a school down the street from st Thomas and my buddy/roommate at that time went to St Thomas with Anna and knew of Dan… there’s no way in hell he fell into the river. River road/Mississippi blvd are easily 100’ above the river and are cover with trees/brush and boulders thick enough that there’s no way evidence of him going through it doesn’t show up, let alone get caught up in it before getting to the water. That guy was put in the water 100%
The girl that vanished in the Pyrenees, search teams never found her, but her boyfriend kept at it and found her years later. Otherwise it would be a mystery.
I have heard of the cases of the two intoxicated young men. Bizarre. Appalling coverage and investigation in the US case. My heart goes out to both families in the US and UK. May they find justice.
I lost track of your channel, Adam~ I honestly panicked I mean I went through it ~ then I saw your logo I relaxed a bit But what really convinced me was that signature wolf which howls at the onset of each of your videos Thanks for being consistent Idk about anyone else but I definitely rely on some of the smaller details to finding channels and other stuff on the internet 🚩Keep that howling wolf please and thank you 🚩
In the case of Arnold and Ruby, I feel that they fled the scene in fear thinking their friend was dead and they had been drinking. I feel they hid and died from exposure. I also feel that someone came upon their bodies, and without wanting to get involved, left them near the accident scene so they would be found and recognized.
I think The articles offered implies that the FBI know something about ruby's death, And should have offered up their conclusion instead of just dismissing their case and saying That they just appeared was a natural ending to everybody. 's suspicions
So far this story about Paul (marathon participant) was covered well especially about his wife's comments and Paul's bad eyesight. Didn't know that the family sued the marathon organization (made sense as he was the last participant and no organization member made sure Paul descended and reached the end successfully to officially close the marathon).
The first story has a very simple explanation. They both fell into the ditch on the night of the crash. The cold icy water and whatever they were in was first penetrated by the crash and they sank deep in while the cold ice sheet folded in over the top of them like a blanket. One of them was deeper than the other and left in a more preserved state. As the weather heated up they slowly were exposed on the surface as melting occurred.
I would guess the FBI being involved in the first case may have something to do with the fact that the victims were indigenous, though any hope of an investigation may have been lost by the change of jurisdiction.
47:39 for what i learn from missing hikes that were found weeks, a kid vanished when the parents took eyes off him for a second and they turned around and he was gone! I don't remember how he was found but he told them that something grabbed him and took off at supernatural speed! From his description it looks like a 7ft tall dogmen., another kid was taken care by a hairy men , a nother one was taken care by a ghost girl when she was lost and , another guy just wondered off like a sleeping person without knowing where he was going he also was found far far away, ALSO there was people that was found in a very inaccessible places!. If anyone knows this mountains are millons of years old so no doubt there is supernatural being there! If anybody familiar with dolores canon you will understand that dimensions merge all the time, that explains why the guy in this sección of the video couldn't find even when they search the place they believe he got lost, he could of been at the same place the whole time they were searching for him but in a different dimensions
I think there’s something to the dimensions theory. At the same time, if I had a nickel for every missing kid case that begins with a parent who “only took their eyes off them for a second,”, I’d be able to buy the New York Yankees. More likely? They weren’t paying attention to their kid for a lot longer than they’re willing to admit.
An important fact about Dan Zamlen's case that was not given enough attention was that he has diabetes severe enough to require an insulin pod and he had been drinking alcohol. Anyone that is familiar with diabetes or has been around diabetics will know the effects if there is a disturbance severe enough. Strange psychological behavior would not be unusual.
Paul entered into a portal. It's the only logical answer. OR, he was swiped by a crawler. Just like Tom Messick did. They always take everything on their body like guns, phones, ammo, bow n arrows food, backpacks, etc etc etc. Nothing is ever left as clues. Yep something weird happened to Paul too!!!
No one commenting about WHY they came home to go to bed and go out again being INTOXICATED BUT STRANGER that the woman who knew Arnold and saw him in a car three weeks after he and his girlfriend had disappeared, in a different vehicle with the couple in the back, who later failed the lie detector but the woman passed? Why would she lie about seeing him. Plus the ditch was searched, they were not there. 🤔😱😭
When I see or read about these strange disappearances, my imagination takes me to past cases even in the cities. People suddenly disappear without a trace. There has to be a solid reason. When even search dogs cannot detect anything and no one witnessed the disappearance, my mind goes to possibilities. I've read about parallel universes where there is an invisible curtain that exist here on planet earth that separates us from another dimension. What could be on the other side; who can speculate? Somehow they make it back to our dimension and usually when searchers had already gone over the area they disappeared. We humans aren't advanced enough to accurately read the whole situation, but hope somebody can eventually figure all this out.
@MissingVoidTV I did! Hey Adam, I don't usually make requests but would you mind taking a look at the case of Juan Pedro Martinez Gomez? Just type that into Google and "missing". I think you'll be interested.
In relation to the frozen ditch story. Ice and snow can cover a body pretty easily. And winter in the northern USA lasts for nearly 7 months, with snow not usually melting til april or may. I think it's actually pretty likely that the guy was thrown from the car and embedded deeply into the snowbank. Then the girl went looking for him and died due to her injuries from the accident and the cold. If it snowed even 4-5 inches, her body would be completely invisible, and because of how snow compacts you could even step on it without realizing it was there. Searching for bodies in winter is notoriously hard, look into military efforts to find their casualties during winter if you don't believe me. There are many cases in war of whole squads of the dead not being found til spring because of the snow.
I agree with you that snow causes difficulty in searches. When it is compacted (due to sleet, rain, trampling, or time), it is probably easy to simply think nothing could be underneath that covering.
RE: Missing in mountain race Those advocating the new installed practice rule are either being Captain Obvious or are encouraging runners with a low skill set to endanger themselves. 1. First of all, Mt. Marathon is in Alaska , not the safest place in the world for mountain travel or even outdoor travel. 2. July 4 or not, with conditions given as foggy, rainy and slick, the mountain was even more dangerous. See the record of serious falls of runners who have run the Mt. Marathon 5k before. 3. Much is made of LeMaitre being experienced, but it was his first Mt. Marathon race. That he was around the 3 hour mark in a 5k and not quite at the halfway point shows lack of experience in uphill race climbing. In contrast, the winner in his age group finished the 5k in just over an hour. Did none of volunteers that passed him going down tell him to consider giving up and trying again next year? 5k races are not worth anyone's life. 4. If one is to practice for the Mt. Marathon, then obviously one should practice on the same course. However, there will be no race stewards marking the way. Weather can always change suddenly on a mountain. Your channel has several stories of people deciding to push themselves going up mountains with deadly consequences despite ample warning.
I knew 4 guys who died in a terrible car accident. The car flipped into a ravine. The authorities only found 3 bodies. While the 4th man was dead not far from the crash site. It took them weeks to locate his body. So the 1st story I would have to see pictures of the accident site. Then get more information. Although this narrator does a great job at helping the listener visualize.
Hello, In your research of man missing during mountain marathon did you come across the story that the searchers got distracted from this search by two other people in the race in two different locations that needed rescuing at the same time as this man? Two other people got off course and fell at the same time in different locations and the rescue team had to help them which took precious time away from searching for this man. When the rescue team asked how these two people got so far off course they both replied they didn't know what happened. If you ask me this is highly suspicious and has all the earmarks of the other strange missing 411 cases.
I'm wondering how deep the water was in that ditch as well. It couldn't have been deep enough to conceal 2 bodies for months with no one seeing anything. It's so weird...
im not trying to mean or anything like that but i have an very honest question... why do ppl feel safe with their Grandparents taking part in all these wilderness activities???? Especially when they have heart, eye, hearing memory ect problems!!!
Paul seamed to disappear,and lets mot sell the dogs and handlers short for a second. We all know these dogs can smell from miles away especially cadaver dogs. From what i understand thery are able to smell these circumstances, or bodies for many miles away no matter if they are deceased and buried under much debris many feet below. It seems to me that sadly he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and was taken by something far more intelligent than i am even able to wrap my mind around. So sad for the family. Thank you and have a Blessed and prosperous 2024
Frozen in a ditch story sounds like a crime of opportunity. Serial ki££er happened upon them and took advantage. Arnold may have been the primary target, hence his lack of decomp. He took Ruby because she probably regained consciousness while he was taking Arnold, so she was also taken in order to cover his tracks. This theory would also explain FBi involvement.
@@shaunnewbedford736 From a mainstream point of view, all cases like this are virtually impossible. That's because a Human has never been documented returning a body to a crime scene. Let alone two. On two separate days! I'm not saying bodies haven't been returned to where they disappeared, I'm just saying it's not something Humans are doing. imho
Back in the 90's I went Mesa Verde with my family and went to The Balcony House... climbing down the ladders that they have one broke and I almost slipped off and fell to my death. That might be where my fear of ladders came from but yeah, it gets HOT, quick. And it does feel a little.. off. I duuno what it was but I felt super anxious being in the entire park
I hope one day I'm featured in this channel, I want my last moments to be filled with fear and paranoia as something chases me in the dark as I'm never seen again.
Are you really a Dt Lt? Those are some wild words you just spoke over your own life; & then committed to writing. There are too many monsters roaming in the U.S wilderness to wish such horror on yourself. . & your lived one's. Stop it now. Please. 🙏 🇭🇲
I think that bringing water a cell phone and someone else when you go for a quick hike. But what the heck happened to Dale. I think something supernatural happened. Poor man.
Re David, what type of a scream was it? - out of frustration? Anger? By the sounds of it, according to his mates, he was pretty aggressive and quick to anger that night. The quote: "I'm turning right, turning right, turning right" might have been followed by a scream of anger / frustration at being lost and being directed remotely over the phone. His parents stated that they'd never heard him swear before too.
Yeah sitting in a police station while being hooked up to a polygraph is stressful, so it is understandable why ppl fail it and that is the exact reason why Polygraphs aren't admissible in the courts bc its unreliable and gives false positives.
That's truly weird that the area had been searched for weeks after the wreck, finding nothing, and then finding both of those bodies in the same ditch close by where their car had wrecked. Were all three people dead? Was the woman, found first, dead, or alive when found? There wasn't any blunt force trauma on either of them? Did the coroner see any tiny puncture wounds on their bodies? What if they were pulled into a portal and experimented on, and then returned to their car when they were done with this couple. It's just weird.
As a Minnesotan the Twin cities are very dangerous. Much more so than they occasionally get credit for. Also people here, especially college students, have a tendency towards very extreme binge drinking. There are literally several deaths a year from alcohol poisoning overdose, because people drink that much. I won't say it was for sure an accident, or for sure foul play, but the Mississippi River is HIGHLY dangerous. First advice you get is don't EVER go in the water, not even in the middle of summer to cool off. It looks calm, but there's fast flowing currents under the surface that will pull you down and hold you under. There are stories of people being dragged along the bottom of the river for hundreds of feet. So yeah, there's a lot of actual accidents, so I can understand why they'd assume that even if it doesn't feel like it did here.
I remember when this happened & you don't pronounce Seward or Kenai right at all, other than that good job.Greetings from Anchorage, Alaska. New to your channel, Happy New Year 🎉 but this is still very sad for Paul's family not noing what happened to their loved one.
A 66-year-old man with poor eyesight ran up a notoriously unforgiving mountain after being told not to do so if it was his first time . . . and his death is a MYSTERY??? SERIOUSLY??? Is this a JOKE???
I'll be totally honest about all your stories as interesting as they are and baffling I couldn't be able to offer any explanation as to what happened to these ppl who went missing. It's a strange state of affairs mystical even . Thanks for a very good reading . I'll tune in again soon
As baffling as the Paul case is, it's really not. A lot of those wild forests are much much much bigger than any one internet sleuth can wrap their heads around. It's possible that he's still there, but it's still next to impossible to find him because of the vastness of Alaska. Adding to that, Nature is constantly changing and shifting, making it so that scents, prints, etc could easily have been covered up. There's also the simple fact that nature is violent and unpredictable. Even the most experienced hikers can still be caught off gaurd and at the mercy of nature.
I hate how the family sued the people on the second story you was talking about the guy missing on the mountain the people that held the contest clearly told people if they never been up there before to not enter the race you're a grown-ass person he chose to go up there knowing he never been up am I saying he deserved to die know but I'm saying he chose that as a optional fate of his own
Merry Christmas all! This video is a compilation of some of the strange disappearnces that I've covered over the last year. There will probably be one more for next week before I get properly set up again for the week following
I hope you're all having a great time. Be safe
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Nice AI sideways baseball cap on a cop dude.
There is a guy who went missing near where I live, quite a number of years ago now. I don't think his case has ever been covered by anyone on RUclips. Not that I know of. Probably because no one knows about it! His name was Theodore Leonard Dengerud, and he went missing on 3 April of 1982, in rural Swift County, Minnesota. Ted, as he was known, was last seen in Sunburg, which is in neighbouring Kandiyohi County, asking for directions, as he was somewhat lost. A day or so later, his car was found crashed into a small tree off a road in rural Swift County. Ted was no where to be seen, and he has never been found. No one knows what happened. The police in both Swift and Kandiyohi Counties, think that after having a small accident, Ted may have wandered off and later perished of exposure. But, no one knows for sure. He was married, and had a baby daughter. His daughter must be an adult now and is probably also a married woman, as well. I know it is not a classic 411 case, but Ted Dengerud is still missing and his remains have never been found. I would love to see someone cover his case, and I didn't know if you would be interested or not, but there you go. Ted's case can be found on DoeNetwork under the missing males for Minnesota. It would be so cool if Ted's remains can be found. His wife and especially his daughter, deserve that. They have never really had closure. Great video, as always! I love your narration and your voice, and you cover a lot of interesting cases. Thank you!
It's sad to consider, but the easiest explanation is that Arnold and Ruby left the car to perhaps try and get help and, being drunk and confused - possibly injured - after the crash, walked along the ditch instead of going up to the road. Perhaps there was a steep incline and they were trying to find a spot to scale it. It is absolutely, unfortunately normal that the police just don't try when it comes to cases involving First Nations people. It wouldn't surprise me if they just missed that they were there because they didn't look beyond the immediate crash site. As for the varying decomposition; there's so many variables that could influence that that it also doesn't seem that weird to me.
I'd say the shoes missing would be weird to me, but it's not. I don't know if it would have happened here, but taking the shoes and outwear of First Nations people that cops consider 'troublesome' and sending them for a 'night walk' is very much a thing that happens. It's appalling.
Basically, at the end of it, my instinct is to literally never trust anything that cops say when it comes to the disappearances and murders of First Nations people.
Police baffled 🙄 will say and blame anything other than they could possibly be incompetent
@@chloedoritoloco8537 even worse...they were Native Americans. most police don't put much effort when it comes to Natives. I remember this from Unsolved Mysteries. Tracy seemed so shook over it all, they were close and she didn't think Ruby would've abandoned her.
Hmmm. Truly sad.
When you started to speak of Indigenous peoples, I had to check to see if it was me that typed this lol you sound just like me. Please continue to spread the word about the night walks - people seriously do not know about this! Even after #NODAPL -- you'd think awareness would be better honed but... Much love from this tiny portion of the Ojibwe, RoundSeal.
I had no idea about the cops taking Native people's shoes! I do however know that there are many missing Native women! That the media pays no attention to. I live close to the Navajo Nation. The way they treat the Native people's is disgusting!
Two bodies that died at the same time in the same location could have varying rates of decomposition because one of them was in a part of the ditch that was shallow, the sin warms the water quicker, decomp begins sooner and occurs more frequently than a body that was perhaps in a part of the ditch with deeper water or with a tree shading it from the sun, meaning the ice doesn't thaw as easily or as quickly preserving the body better. The same read snow stays longer on the side of a house that's shaded from the afternoon sun. Just a thought about how you can have significant differences in decomp in the same place at the same time.
That's what I think water speeds up decomposition but if it was cold and ice wouldn't that kind of froze and preserve the bodies how did they not find footsteps in the snow leaving the vehicle and find a hole in the ice almost makes me think that they were ran off the road by another vehicle and wore taking but how could they have movd the decomposing bodiies and the corners not notice
I would think the cops investigation was not thorough or they didn't try but if that were the case they would have tried to cover it up and not say they thought something else happened like foul Play
Being that Tracy was in a state of confusion, she may have thought that she was talking to Ruby after the accident when in reality, it was likely prior to the occurrence of the accident. I'm fairly certain they both died in the accident, by being ejected from the car or shortly afterward. It's also possible that the car landed on top of Arnold, essentially pinning him under the water/ice.
As for the difference in decomposition, it's known that in places where oxygen in low, decomposition is delayed. You need look no further than the mummified bog bodies, for evidence of this. After all, it was noted that the water needed to be drained, in order to locate Arnold's body.
@@Craig-if6pvno, suggesting another party's involvement is exactly what I would do if I wanted to cover up an inadequate search effort.
To begin with, Arnold’s body was submerged. His body was also found not frozen to the ground like Ruby’s. The problem isn’t that they decomposed at different rates. The problem is that everything surrounding the location of each body indicated that Arnold’s should have decomposed a lot faster, but in fact, the opposite occurred. Ruby’s remains were in such a bad state that they were only sure it was her when someone managed to recognize a tattoo on her body while Arnold’s body was relatively fresh. The second problem was that these remain were basically found in a ditch that everyone should have seen the moment they looked into it. Or at least that’s what everybody, not just the cops, who actually saw the accident site and where the bodies were found, believed. There were people who claimed they walked right by the ditch and didn’t see them, even though they should have. And finally, there’s people who have claimed to have seen Arnold after his supposed death, alive. The Sheriff also says that Arnold had a set of keys on him, a vehicle key and a couple of house keys, that he has never been able to match to anywhere.
That doesn’t mean that I necessarily believe foul play was involved. Occam’s Razor suggests the simplest explanation is the right one, which, in this case, is that they died of exposure. And that actually is the official finding of the autopsies, which I would think would not be the case if the cops were trying to cover up a botched investigation. They could easily have it be indeterminate or something like that. And I’m quite sure that people who saw the evidence were quite capable of reasoning it out the same as you have. It doesn’t mean they can’t be wrong, anymore that you can. But I do understand why many people involved in the case or close to the victims believe there’s something funny about the accident, even if I don’t hold the same opinion. And it has nothing to do with what the police did or did not do. It’s more that most people thought the police shouldn’t have had to search for the bodies, period. They should have been right there, and they were…a few months later.
An hour long video of strange disappearances?? What a great Christmas present!
@@YeahNoTellTheTruth omg you are so right. I feel like crap. Wow
Well weve already heard them , sadly
Idk if I'd word It like that.. after all, we want to send love & support to these families. These are horrific incidents. We shouldn't be celebrating anything besides justice for the family. I love true crime, but reading some comments like this worries me, we need to make sure we are still understanding these are REAL people with REAL hurting families that can see this. I know you meant well, but just take a moment to think about the families' healing from these traumatic events.
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I remember this first story.. this was really strange!
Great channel😊
Thank you Cora 👍
Paul is under a rock and shaleslide...I imagine he went of trail, slipped, slid down loosening material as he slid, this caused a larger slide which followed behind him, covering his tracks, scent and ultimately his body...he's under rubble somewhere on that mountain.
What makes you say that?
@welsh.truth.dragon3914 Obviously this is just a theory, I know nothing for certain, I'm just a chump on RUclips. In the segment its mentioned early on that the mountain has a large amount of loose shale and material, and that runners were told about how hard going some parts could be. Add this to his poor eyesight and the fog and rain that came in shortly after he was last seen and you have seriously poor visability. He could easily have lost his way, wondered off the main pathway onto some loose material, slipped, slid down a section disturbing more material as he slid, possibly causing something like a small avalanch. This material then buries him wherever he came to rest, possibly unconscious, injured or even dead, or the weight of the material is such that he can't escape, and this is where he may still be. It would explain the lack of tracks, it would explain why both search and cadaver dogs got no scent, it would explain why thermal imaging picked nothing up, it would explain why no items were found and why no body could be seen anywhere. Wherever he slipped would probably look no different to how it usually looks due to the shale regularly sliding down as it does. As I said, its just an idea, but it does fit the location, the conditions, and does give a plausible explanation to the more mysterious elements.
@@shanepitt195It's a theory that makes more sense than anything like ufo or bigfoot related.
@@MarvinHartmann452Bigfeet piloting UFO'S?
doubt that. dogs would still be able to smell him. personally I think he was abducted by aliens.
Love seeing how much this channel has grown over the last 4-5 years! Merry Christmas, Adam!
Merry Christmas! Hope you had a great day & enjoy boxing day
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Great episode
@@MissingVoidTV same to you, man. Keep up the awesome work! Best damn channel of it's kind, on here. And love the new name!
I hope that OP don't minde me. I just wanted to share that Arnold and Ruby was also aired on Unsolved Mysteries tv show, narrated by legendary Robert Stack. Such a strange story it chill me till the bone.
Of course not! I'm pretty sure I've seen that episode in the past, great show
It's unbelievable that after more than 11 years ,the marathon runner remains haven't been found yet.
Thank you for this Christmas day treat i hope you have had a good day
If the ditch had to be drained before Arnolds body was found, he was fully immersed in the water therefore decompostion time would differ especially if it was freezing.
I dont believe Ruby was shouting for for help before leaving the vehicle and Tracy on her own. I think its plausable this was Tracy hallucinating as she was unconscious. I think they were both ejected from the car during the accident.
Underrated comment... I think thats very likely and since they went off Tracy's story it'd a total mystery however if you hadn't heard the story from her there wouldn't be much mystery at all. How sad. 😢
I love listening while I'm doing other things. Thanks for all the great videos. All the best for 2024!
(BTW: "Sioux" is said like "Soo/Sue)"
Merry Christmas to everyone and thank you Adam... 🎉
Merry Christmas and most welcome
Mitchell Dale's remains have been found off the trail below the abandoned village, 4 miles from where he was last seen in 2020.
I enjoy your narrating! Thank you
Thanks so much tav, much appreciated 👍
He sounds like a.i. to me tbh
Thank you Adam Merry Christmas to you
Merry Christmas!
Why is it that law enforcement always seems so shady in these missing person cases, like they're trying to cover something up? Shockingly incompetent search teams, gross negligence, complete lack of urgency from police captains, laughably lazy and obviously incorrect conclusions... it's so strange.
Your Videos are very cool! Please never stop reportering this strange dissappearnces. ❤
Thank you! I don't plan on stopping, there are lots of these kinds of disappearances that I want to cover, should also have some other interesting topics for next year too
Merry Christmas to us all!!❤
Merry Christmas!
Lots of detail. Very interesting, puzzling cases.
Enjoyed the images also.
Thank you and the Patreon. 🌲
Thanks Adam for more bizarre accounts. Your channel's artwork is amazing and incredibly atmospheric!very merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas and happy holidays. In the first story I think they were way more intoxicated than what was initially thought of.
I went to a school down the street from st Thomas and my buddy/roommate at that time went to St Thomas with Anna and knew of Dan… there’s no way in hell he fell into the river. River road/Mississippi blvd are easily 100’ above the river and are cover with trees/brush and boulders thick enough that there’s no way evidence of him going through it doesn’t show up, let alone get caught up in it before getting to the water. That guy was put in the water 100%
The girl that vanished in the Pyrenees, search teams never found her, but her boyfriend kept at it and found her years later. Otherwise it would be a mystery.
Merry Christmas ❤ I needed this ...
Merry Christmas to everyone! I’m enjoying this very much!
I have heard of the cases of the two intoxicated young men. Bizarre. Appalling coverage and investigation in the US case. My heart goes out to both families in the US and UK. May they find justice.
I lost track of your channel, Adam~ I honestly panicked
I mean I went through it ~
then I saw your logo
I relaxed a bit
But what really convinced me was that signature wolf which howls at the onset of each of your videos
Thanks for being consistent
Idk about anyone else but I definitely rely on some of the smaller details to finding channels and other stuff on the internet
🚩Keep that howling wolf please and thank you 🚩
In the case of Arnold and Ruby, I feel that they fled the scene in fear thinking their friend was dead and they had been drinking. I feel they hid and died from exposure. I also feel that someone came upon their bodies, and without wanting to get involved, left them near the accident scene so they would be found and recognized.
Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
I think The articles offered implies that the FBI know something about ruby's death, And should have offered up their conclusion instead of just dismissing their case and saying That they just appeared was a natural ending to everybody. 's suspicions
Absolutely love your channel.
Merry Christmas to all and happy new year 🎆 great channel thanks for the hard work
Arnold and Ruby's case baffles me for sure too.
Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas!
So far this story about Paul (marathon participant) was covered well especially about his wife's comments and Paul's bad eyesight. Didn't know that the family sued the marathon organization (made sense as he was the last participant and no organization member made sure Paul descended and reached the end successfully to officially close the marathon).
The first story has a very simple explanation. They both fell into the ditch on the night of the crash. The cold icy water and whatever they were in was first penetrated by the crash and they sank deep in while the cold ice sheet folded in over the top of them like a blanket. One of them was deeper than the other and left in a more preserved state. As the weather heated up they slowly were exposed on the surface as melting occurred.
I would guess the FBI being involved in the first case may have something to do with the fact that the victims were indigenous, though any hope of an investigation may have been lost by the change of jurisdiction.
Top 5 best channels.. Gives great explanation and details. Bless this channel and hope it grows big.
47:39 for what i learn from missing hikes that were found weeks, a kid vanished when the parents took eyes off him for a second and they turned around and he was gone! I don't remember how he was found but he told them that something grabbed him and took off at supernatural speed! From his description it looks like a 7ft tall dogmen., another kid was taken care by a hairy men , a nother one was taken care by a ghost girl when she was lost and , another guy just wondered off like a sleeping person without knowing where he was going he also was found far far away, ALSO there was people that was found in a very inaccessible places!. If anyone knows this mountains are millons of years old so no doubt there is supernatural being there! If anybody familiar with dolores canon you will understand that dimensions merge all the time, that explains why the guy in this sección of the video couldn't find even when they search the place they believe he got lost, he could of been at the same place the whole time they were searching for him but in a different dimensions
I think there’s something to the dimensions theory. At the same time, if I had a nickel for every missing kid case that begins with a parent who “only took their eyes off them for a second,”, I’d be able to buy the New York Yankees. More likely? They weren’t paying attention to their kid for a lot longer than they’re willing to admit.
The ones where people just vanish. With out any clued? Always make me think that there are just some things people don't know yet.
A great Christmas present indeed. Thanks for the wonderful, delight of an hour plus or your voice and great research.
At 26:18 there are 3Stones in the creek that stand over another, but this is unreal!!!
Wow that is crazy! Wonder if humans did that or it's one large stone with erosion? Just seems so weird! Good catch!
An important fact about Dan Zamlen's case that was not given enough attention was that he has diabetes severe enough to require an insulin pod and he had been drinking alcohol. Anyone that is familiar with diabetes or has been around diabetics will know the effects if there is a disturbance severe enough. Strange psychological behavior would not be unusual.
So everyone was drinking and the father just let them drive off while drunk ? Good parenting
If my Native friend's tell me not to go somewhere. I listen.
Paul entered into a portal. It's the only logical answer. OR, he was swiped by a crawler. Just like Tom Messick did. They always take everything on their body like guns, phones, ammo, bow n arrows food, backpacks, etc etc etc. Nothing is ever left as clues. Yep something weird happened to Paul too!!!
Excellent Boxing Day Present! Happy Boxing Day Adam!, Yeah, dead bodies come and go from ditches all the time, nothing bizarre about that!
No one commenting about WHY they came home to go to bed and go out again being INTOXICATED BUT STRANGER that the woman who knew Arnold and saw him in a car three weeks after he and his girlfriend had disappeared, in a different vehicle with the couple in the back, who later failed the lie detector but the woman passed? Why would she lie about seeing him. Plus the ditch was searched, they were not there. 🤔😱😭
I just had a Mandela effect. Has this channel always been named missing void? I swear it was named something different.
No he changed it 😅
Unexpained Mystery
It used to be called Disappeared Void before
@@watcher171 No it wasnt
No it used to be called Top Mysteries! Changed around a month ago
@@shaunnewbedford736Hi, you are right. I just wanted to make a joke on the Mandela effect 😉. It was Top Mysteries before of course
Thanks Adam!! This is Great!! Have a nice New Year!!
When I see or read about these strange disappearances, my imagination takes me to past cases even in the cities. People suddenly disappear without a trace. There has to be a solid reason. When even search dogs cannot detect anything and no one witnessed the disappearance, my mind goes to possibilities. I've read about parallel universes where there is an invisible curtain that exist here on planet earth that separates us from another dimension. What could be on the other side; who can speculate? Somehow they make it back to our dimension and usually when searchers had already gone over the area they disappeared. We humans aren't advanced enough to accurately read the whole situation, but hope somebody can eventually figure all this out.
Thank you for a great year Adam.
Happy New year 2024🍾cheers!
Merry Christmas Adam
Merry Christmas David, I hope you had a nice boxing day
@MissingVoidTV I did! Hey Adam, I don't usually make requests but would you mind taking a look at the case of Juan Pedro Martinez Gomez? Just type that into Google and "missing". I think you'll be interested.
In relation to the frozen ditch story. Ice and snow can cover a body pretty easily. And winter in the northern USA lasts for nearly 7 months, with snow not usually melting til april or may. I think it's actually pretty likely that the guy was thrown from the car and embedded deeply into the snowbank. Then the girl went looking for him and died due to her injuries from the accident and the cold.
If it snowed even 4-5 inches, her body would be completely invisible, and because of how snow compacts you could even step on it without realizing it was there. Searching for bodies in winter is notoriously hard, look into military efforts to find their casualties during winter if you don't believe me. There are many cases in war of whole squads of the dead not being found til spring because of the snow.
I agree with you that snow causes difficulty in searches. When it is compacted (due to sleet, rain, trampling, or time), it is probably easy to simply think nothing could be underneath that covering.
Love the video and perfect timing on Christmas. Wish you would go back to filming yourself narrating the videos as well.
RE: Missing in mountain race
Those advocating the new installed practice rule are either being Captain Obvious or are encouraging runners with a low skill set to endanger themselves.
1. First of all, Mt. Marathon is in Alaska , not the safest place in the world for mountain travel or even outdoor travel.
2. July 4 or not, with conditions given as foggy, rainy and slick, the mountain was even more dangerous. See the record of serious falls of runners who have run the Mt. Marathon 5k before.
3. Much is made of LeMaitre being experienced, but it was his first Mt. Marathon race. That he was around the 3 hour mark in a 5k and not quite at the halfway point shows lack of experience in uphill race climbing. In contrast, the winner in his age group finished the 5k in just over an hour. Did none of volunteers that passed him going down tell him to consider giving up and trying again next year? 5k races are not worth anyone's life.
4. If one is to practice for the Mt. Marathon, then obviously one should practice on the same course. However, there will be no race stewards marking the way. Weather can always change suddenly on a mountain. Your channel has several stories of people deciding to push themselves going up mountains with deadly consequences despite ample warning.
The couple found in the ditch; maybe Tracy had seen Ruby’s spirit walking away.
I knew 4 guys who died in a terrible car accident. The car flipped into a ravine. The authorities only found 3 bodies. While the 4th man was dead not far from the crash site. It took them weeks to locate his body. So the 1st story I would have to see pictures of the accident site. Then get more information. Although this narrator does a great job at helping the listener visualize.
Awesome creepy stuff.
Merry Christmas bro. God bless.
Merry Christmas Keno, hope you're having a great time
Great recap video Adam. Watched and commented for the Algo overlords.
Hello, In your research of man missing during mountain marathon did you come across the story that the searchers got distracted from this search by two other people in the race in two different locations that needed rescuing at the same time as this man? Two other people got off course and fell at the same time in different locations and the rescue team had to help them which took precious time away from searching for this man. When the rescue team asked how these two people got so far off course they both replied they didn't know what happened. If you ask me this is highly suspicious and has all the earmarks of the other strange missing 411 cases.
great stuff well done very strange
Hello, thank you for this! Will you eventually have merch?
Does any one ever say how deep the ditch is?
I'm wondering how deep the water was in that ditch as well. It couldn't have been deep enough to conceal 2 bodies for months with no one seeing anything. It's so weird...
GEEZUS !
Is there an ENGLISH version of this ?
This IS an English version. What are you implying. Or are you just being rude about Adam’s accent and narrative style.
Merry Christmas everyone 🎉
Merry Christmas!
Outstanding!💜👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍
im not trying to mean or anything like that but i have an very honest question... why do ppl feel safe with their Grandparents taking part in all these wilderness activities???? Especially when they have heart, eye, hearing memory ect problems!!!
When he says “Any Whaaa” I laugh every time 😂 okay warrio lol
Merry Christmas, ya filthy animals! 🎄🇺🇸
Merry Christmas!
@@MissingVoidTV Thank you, brother, man! Keep up the great work and narrations. Hope you and yours enjoy many blessings for the year to come.
Amazing narration!
Paul seamed to disappear,and lets mot sell the dogs and handlers short for a second. We all know these dogs can smell from miles away especially cadaver dogs. From what i understand thery are able to smell these circumstances, or bodies for many miles away no matter if they are deceased and buried under much debris many feet below. It seems to me that sadly he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and was taken by something far more intelligent than i am even able to wrap my mind around. So sad for the family. Thank you and have a Blessed and prosperous 2024
Frozen in a ditch story sounds like a crime of opportunity. Serial ki££er happened upon them and took advantage. Arnold may have been the primary target, hence his lack of decomp. He took Ruby because she probably regained consciousness while he was taking Arnold, so she was also taken in order to cover his tracks. This theory would also explain FBi involvement.
Sure. But why would a serial killer return the body (s) to the scene of the crime?
@@AverageAmerican Mind Boggiling for sure
@@shaunnewbedford736 From a mainstream point of view, all cases like this are virtually impossible. That's because a Human has never been documented returning a body to a crime scene. Let alone two. On two separate days! I'm not saying bodies haven't been returned to where they disappeared, I'm just saying it's not something Humans are doing. imho
Just like a Missing 411 case.
@@susieklimeck9609 What about it reminds you of Missing 411 cases?
Maybe Ruby and Arnold were run off the road by someone they were aquainted with, and their friend may know more than she is willing to give.
Yesss been craving this!
Thanks so much 😊
Back in the 90's I went Mesa Verde with my family and went to The Balcony House... climbing down the ladders that they have one broke and I almost slipped off and fell to my death. That might be where my fear of ladders came from but yeah, it gets HOT, quick. And it does feel a little.. off. I duuno what it was but I felt super anxious being in the entire park
Who wants to keep a decomposing body and then take it back to the scene of the crime where people are looking and searching?
Thanks mate 👍🏻
Great video...all the very best for your channel in 2024...
I hope one day I'm featured in this channel, I want my last moments to be filled with fear and paranoia as something chases me in the dark as I'm never seen again.
Fuk dat
That's terrible! I can't imagine what these people went through in their final moments, terrified and alone...
Are you really a Dt Lt? Those are some wild words you just spoke over your own life; & then committed to writing. There are too many monsters roaming in the U.S wilderness to wish such horror on yourself. . & your lived one's.
Stop it now. Please. 🙏
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Weird, like hairless pets.
Mad sod! 😅
I think that bringing water a cell phone and someone else when you go for a quick hike. But what the heck happened to Dale. I think something supernatural happened. Poor man.
Re David, what type of a scream was it? - out of frustration? Anger? By the sounds of it, according to his mates, he was pretty aggressive and quick to anger that night. The quote: "I'm turning right, turning right, turning right" might have been followed by a scream of anger / frustration at being lost and being directed remotely over the phone. His parents stated that they'd never heard him swear before too.
Great detail
Can anyone please tell me what the narrator's accent is?
I'm from Yorkshire!
@@MissingVoidTV aha. What's interesting is that it reminds me of Ozzy Osbourne's accent and he's from the west if I'm not mistaken. Ah well 🙂
He's British
Yeah sitting in a police station while being hooked up to a polygraph is stressful, so it is understandable why ppl fail it and that is the exact reason why Polygraphs aren't admissible in the courts bc its unreliable and gives false positives.
I wanna kiss the narrator for new years!!!!!!!😘😘🤣🤣😭😭😭😭
That's truly weird that the area had been searched for weeks after the wreck, finding nothing, and then finding both of those bodies in the same ditch close by where their car had wrecked.
Were all three people dead? Was the woman, found first, dead, or alive when found?
There wasn't any blunt force trauma on either of them? Did the coroner see any tiny puncture wounds on their bodies? What if they were pulled into a portal and experimented on, and then returned to their car when they were done with this couple. It's just weird.
Perhaps a giant eagle or bird took him into the heavens. No trace! I live on a Res near the Canada Mts. and known people who have seen them!
My family owns 12 grocery stores named giant eagle lol they’re the big grocery chain in pa and Ohio
I think Occam's Razer suggests the search was just inadequate. The bodies were there the whole time, they were just missed.
As a Minnesotan the Twin cities are very dangerous. Much more so than they occasionally get credit for. Also people here, especially college students, have a tendency towards very extreme binge drinking. There are literally several deaths a year from alcohol poisoning overdose, because people drink that much.
I won't say it was for sure an accident, or for sure foul play, but the Mississippi River is HIGHLY dangerous. First advice you get is don't EVER go in the water, not even in the middle of summer to cool off. It looks calm, but there's fast flowing currents under the surface that will pull you down and hold you under. There are stories of people being dragged along the bottom of the river for hundreds of feet. So yeah, there's a lot of actual accidents, so I can understand why they'd assume that even if it doesn't feel like it did here.
I remember when this happened & you don't pronounce Seward or Kenai right at all, other than that good job.Greetings from Anchorage, Alaska. New to your channel, Happy New Year 🎉 but this is still very sad for Paul's family not noing what happened to their loved one.
Arnold and ruby were there the whole time, but were shielded from being seen by other worldly forces or entities!
A 66-year-old man with poor eyesight ran up a notoriously unforgiving mountain after being told not to do so if it was his first time . . . and his death is a MYSTERY??? SERIOUSLY??? Is this a JOKE???
I'll be totally honest about all your stories as interesting as they are and baffling I couldn't be able to offer any explanation as to what happened to these ppl who went missing. It's a strange state of affairs mystical even . Thanks for a very good reading . I'll tune in again soon
As baffling as the Paul case is, it's really not. A lot of those wild forests are much much much bigger than any one internet sleuth can wrap their heads around. It's possible that he's still there, but it's still next to impossible to find him because of the vastness of Alaska. Adding to that, Nature is constantly changing and shifting, making it so that scents, prints, etc could easily have been covered up. There's also the simple fact that nature is violent and unpredictable. Even the most experienced hikers can still be caught off gaurd and at the mercy of nature.
❤yassss! Hot Chocolate time!!! Love this!!!
I hate how the family sued the people on the second story you was talking about the guy missing on the mountain the people that held the contest clearly told people if they never been up there before to not enter the race you're a grown-ass person he chose to go up there knowing he never been up am I saying he deserved to die know but I'm saying he chose that as a optional fate of his own