IT DIED ON STAGE AND I SOLD IT. I feel like that really needs to be stated clearly here. I loved this bass at first, but the output jack has a fundamental design flaw. I couldn't trust it after that. I could have replaced the jack, but I decided to sell it instead.
I understand the frustration. I have a Sire guitar and the electronic gave up quick. This is how Sire gets the prices that low, there's no magic! Apart from the jack socket, did you experience any other issues with the bass?
I've played Sire basses (V7) almost exclusively live for the past 7 years. They are incredible bang for the buck instruments, but there are 2 negatives worth mentioning. 1. They're all pretty heavy. I've yet to encounter one under 9-1/2 lbs. 2. The input jack will eventually go and need to be replaced. 3. I find the newer battery compartment covers annoying. The V1s had simple flip up battery covers for much quicker battery replacement.
Well… sad to say a few weeks after I posted this video, the jack cut out on me - on stage - and I lost a lot of love for the instrument. I inspected it and determined the terminal pin inside is just too flimsy and bends out of shape easily with ordinary use. It would need to be replaced, but then I decided I also didn’t like the stacked knobs. They were binding up a bit, and the knobs themselves felt cheap. But because of their non-standard design they’re not easy to swap out. Things that could be fixed, but they made me lose my love for the instrument. So once again… I sold it.
It’s funny… I am generally a Yamaha enthusiast. I own all 4 of the Reface mini keyboards, and a Yamaha clarinet and bass clarinet. I _know_ they make great gear. But there’s something about their guitars and basses… they just look weird to me. I’m sure they are quality instruments but I can’t get excited about their appearance.
I disagree with you on Schecter - perhaps yours had some quality control issues, but my stiletto studio has perfect pots and is of excellent build. The battery compartment is easily accessible with scredriver and it takes less that couple of minutes to change the batteries. I have seen your video about the schecter, you have the red/orange one. Mine is the black color, thus the only two cons for me in Schecter are - the finish on the back of the neck, while silky smooth, makes my palm sweaty, which doesn't hinder my playing but makes me anxious that the neck would become dirty; and while the knobs are perfect, the do get a bit in the way when I am palm muting, a slight con I worked around by adjusting my technique. Great video though, this sire looks and sounds great!
I'd need to be able to change the batteries in seconds, not minutes, with no tools, before I'd be comfortable having an active-only bass on stage. I would have actually needed _two_ screwdrivers… a Phillips to remove the cover and a flathead to pry the batteries out. No thanks. It's a shame because other than that and the flaky pan pot, it was a really great bass.
I must’ve gotten lucky with my fender elites, Jazz and precision 4 strings. They’re the best instruments I’ve ever owned. Settle on those after a bunch of higher end instruments. I like these videos!
I defretted a v7 with an ebony fretboard and it's super sweet ... it looks nice with block inlays ... i asked a luthier to laquer the neck n put a skunk stripe too ahaha
Is there a reason you chose the Pj over the jazz... Im having a mild meltdow about this choice... the pbass just looks so cool.. also maybe a different tone in the middle position of both basses... thanks
I tend to prefer the sound of the split-coil P pickup, but I also just like the body shape a bit better. But I would refer you to my pinned comment: this bass died on me on stage in the middle of a gig due to a defect in the input jack design. As a result I really can't recommend these basses, but I'm just talking about my own personal experience.
@@room34 Ok thanks. yes I am having second thoughts now about what to get and maybe I should go for a cheaper model or one of the passive ones.. although I do love the active slap tones.. mark king, stanley clarke etc ...
@@room34What happened to your instrument does not mean that all basses in this series have similar defects. Perhaps this was a problem with your copy. Overall the V8 is a great tool for the money.
@@room34Why not just change the connector? You behaved like an offended child who was not given his favorite toy and out of resentment threw it out the window. This is not seriously simple.Because of some connector, give up such bass?! LOL.
I own a fender Jazz ultra V and I couldn’t disagree more with your assessment of the instrument… Great build quality excellent action and a phenomenal tone. It’s by far the best bass I have ever owned or played. I own 5 other basses which includes an EBMm 4 H and they all collect dust now. I will say I think the build quality on my EBMM is slightly better than the Fender. However I have heard and read excellent reviews on this particular bass. The consensus is for the price it is the best bass for the $$$. .
Yep quite good basses, had a V7 and P7. Sold both for a Squier 40th anniversary precision and a Yamaha TRBX304 which are even better value. Battery cover was a stupid design on the P7 and the V7 was like a boat anchor.
Sadowsky MetroExpress are sold in America for around $1,000. But Thomann in Europe has them under $500. Sure the shipping from Thomann is expensive (up to $100 depending on where you live in America). But thats still $400 less than buying one from an American dealer.
The first RSD (Rodger Sadowsky Design) basses were horrible , the claim they fixed the new ones and they are branded as Sadowsky. I have always brough a backup bass wherever i have gone . I also have a Stilleto studio but it is a 8 string model its a keeper. Im looking to get a fretless again too , my first was a 80s G&L 2000 with a traditional fingerboard ( stolen in the 90s) Ive had a few fretless since that had lined finger boards i prefer no lines . Id like to try a Warwick or a Sadowsky if i can see them in person first. 😊
My experience with the original American Professional series was pretty good, but I'm concerned that Fender USA's QC has fallen off over the past 3-4 years. I don't know if the issues I had with the American Ultra were design flaws specific to that series or just general slips in quality.
These do tend to be a bit on the heavy side. Sweetwater weighed my particular instrument at 9 pounds 5 ounces, but they had some that were as much a 9 pounds 12 ounces. It is well balanced. I used it last night in a 2 hour rehearsal and I noticed there’s no neck dive, but I was starting to feel the weight a bit by the end.
I own and love several Yamaha keyboards and woodwind instruments, so I know they are good. There’s just something about the design aesthetic of their guitars and basses… they’re just… weird looking to me. Since looks matter a lot more with guitars and basses than with most other instruments, I just can’t get past that.
@@room34 sorry for delay :))) BB Series are the few basses that historically emerges with a non-imitating design idea of the classic Fender Jazz or Precisions, but... De gustibus etc etc :)) ciao!
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IT DIED ON STAGE AND I SOLD IT. I feel like that really needs to be stated clearly here. I loved this bass at first, but the output jack has a fundamental design flaw. I couldn't trust it after that. I could have replaced the jack, but I decided to sell it instead.
Tough.. probably should have replaced it though
I understand the frustration. I have a Sire guitar and the electronic gave up quick. This is how Sire gets the prices that low, there's no magic!
Apart from the jack socket, did you experience any other issues with the bass?
Couldn’t you have just replaced the electronics with passive ones?
This channel is a hidden gem in the sea of s*it often produced on social media. Well done!
Nicely done. I particularly love your outro tune! 👂🤌💯🧡🎸
I've played Sire basses (V7) almost exclusively live for the past 7 years. They are incredible bang for the buck instruments, but there are 2 negatives worth mentioning. 1. They're all pretty heavy. I've yet to encounter one under 9-1/2 lbs. 2. The input jack will eventually go and need to be replaced. 3. I find the newer battery compartment covers annoying. The V1s had simple flip up battery covers for much quicker battery replacement.
Well… sad to say a few weeks after I posted this video, the jack cut out on me - on stage - and I lost a lot of love for the instrument. I inspected it and determined the terminal pin inside is just too flimsy and bends out of shape easily with ordinary use. It would need to be replaced, but then I decided I also didn’t like the stacked knobs. They were binding up a bit, and the knobs themselves felt cheap. But because of their non-standard design they’re not easy to swap out. Things that could be fixed, but they made me lose my love for the instrument. So once again… I sold it.
The second generations are very light, the first gens were heavy though, very
How old are these v and p8 models? Are they not considered way past the 1st generation
Can one get a Reverend input jack to replace it?
Wow I feel the same way about the headstocks, amazing you play that many instruments - great video. 👍🏽
Thats a very helpful reply you post, that you fell out with it and sold it.👍
Great video. I was torn between a V8 or a P8. Think you convinced me to go P8. Thanks.
I’ve never owned a bass with the PJ pickup combo before… that was the reason this one worked for me. If you get one let me know what you think!
I appreciate you. This is great content and you seem very honest without an agenda. Thank you.
The head stock is awesome! And yea all the marcus miller basses from sire seem to be top notch
The Price is Right! Great theme!
Thanks for the vid.
I’m just a hobbyist revisiting bass as I get older. I am really enjoying my Sire V5. It’s passive and easy to mess with.
I loved the video :) That bass is a beast.
also, I recommend you to try the Yamaha BB734A.
It’s funny… I am generally a Yamaha enthusiast. I own all 4 of the Reface mini keyboards, and a Yamaha clarinet and bass clarinet. I _know_ they make great gear. But there’s something about their guitars and basses… they just look weird to me. I’m sure they are quality instruments but I can’t get excited about their appearance.
Just got a Sire V8 and I LOVE it, Flawless and same gig bag.
I'm waiting for mine to arrive! can't wait that transparent white one looks so good with the bindings and the inlays!
How is it holding up. I got concerned after reading the messages...
I disagree with you on Schecter - perhaps yours had some quality control issues, but my stiletto studio has perfect pots and is of excellent build. The battery compartment is easily accessible with scredriver and it takes less that couple of minutes to change the batteries. I have seen your video about the schecter, you have the red/orange one. Mine is the black color, thus the only two cons for me in Schecter are - the finish on the back of the neck, while silky smooth, makes my palm sweaty, which doesn't hinder my playing but makes me anxious that the neck would become dirty; and while the knobs are perfect, the do get a bit in the way when I am palm muting, a slight con I worked around by adjusting my technique. Great video though, this sire looks and sounds great!
I'd need to be able to change the batteries in seconds, not minutes, with no tools, before I'd be comfortable having an active-only bass on stage. I would have actually needed _two_ screwdrivers… a Phillips to remove the cover and a flathead to pry the batteries out. No thanks. It's a shame because other than that and the flaky pan pot, it was a really great bass.
Thanks for the video. I have a P5R and a V5, love the way they play and the tone, as well great build quality. And the headstock, hmm? I like it! LOL!
I must’ve gotten lucky with my fender elites, Jazz and precision 4 strings. They’re the best instruments I’ve ever owned. Settle on those after a bunch of higher end instruments. I like these videos!
Elite was a completely different beast from Ultra, and I think QC on the Ultras has really fallen off in the past couple of years.
lovely sweet sax outro dude!
After reading the comments Ide also like to ask about the v5 passive ones..I particularly like that green 4 string
A very beautiful instrument!
I defretted a v7 with an ebony fretboard and it's super sweet ... it looks nice with block inlays ... i asked a luthier to laquer the neck n put a skunk stripe too ahaha
Is there a reason you chose the Pj over the jazz... Im having a mild meltdow about this choice... the pbass just looks so cool.. also maybe a different tone in the middle position of both basses... thanks
I tend to prefer the sound of the split-coil P pickup, but I also just like the body shape a bit better. But I would refer you to my pinned comment: this bass died on me on stage in the middle of a gig due to a defect in the input jack design. As a result I really can't recommend these basses, but I'm just talking about my own personal experience.
@@room34 Ok thanks. yes I am having second thoughts now about what to get and maybe I should go for a cheaper model or one of the passive ones.. although I do love the active slap tones.. mark king, stanley clarke etc ...
@@room34What happened to your instrument does not mean that all basses in this series have similar defects. Perhaps this was a problem with your copy. Overall the V8 is a great tool for the money.
@@room34Why not just change the connector? You behaved like an offended child who was not given his favorite toy and out of resentment threw it out the window. This is not seriously simple.Because of some connector, give up such bass?! LOL.
Looking forward to you getting a Sadowsky
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@@room34 try charvel too. i bought charvel over sadowsky.
I own a fender Jazz ultra V and I couldn’t disagree more with your assessment of the instrument… Great build quality excellent action and a phenomenal tone. It’s by far the best bass I have ever owned or played. I own 5 other basses which includes an EBMm 4 H and they all collect dust now. I will say I think the build quality on my EBMM is slightly better than the Fender. However I have heard and read excellent reviews on this particular bass. The consensus is for the price it is the best bass for the $$$. .
Out of curiosity, what year is your Ultra? I’ve heard Fender Corona’s QC declined a lot after covid hit. Mine was a 2022.
What dimarzios do you have on the Squire Jazz Bass? I've been using the ultra jazz and LOVING them!
Yep, those are the ones.
@@room34 amazing! Can’t wait for my p8 to show up tomorrow and thanks for the detail you packed in
Yep quite good basses, had a V7 and P7. Sold both for a Squier 40th anniversary precision and a Yamaha TRBX304 which are even better value.
Battery cover was a stupid design on the P7 and the V7 was like a boat anchor.
Headstock definitely looks better with roasted maple. That was always my main gripe with the earlier, lighter models.
The sunburst is not like the fender style strong ones, it’s closer to honey burst than sun burst it’s really beautiful
0:35 I know earthbound battle music when I hear it
What was that great tune at the end?
The Price Is Right theme!
@@room34 lol thanks!
I have played Sire bass live and in studio for about seven years now
Anyone else have problems with the active circuit? It works sometimes and other times not.
Rumor says they shaped that headstock that shape to keep from being sued by Fender! Kiesel guitars also say the same thing!
Sadowsky MetroExpress are sold in America for around $1,000. But Thomann in Europe has them under $500. Sure the shipping from Thomann is expensive (up to $100 depending on where you live in America). But thats still $400 less than buying one from an American dealer.
Is that the same instrument?
Is this the size more like a Jazz or more like a P?
@@pblue24 I didn’t do a side-by-side comparison but it’s basically a P body (size and shape) with a J neck.
The first RSD (Rodger Sadowsky Design) basses were horrible , the claim they fixed the new ones and they are branded as Sadowsky.
I have always brough a backup bass wherever i have gone .
I also have a Stilleto studio but it is a 8 string model its a keeper.
Im looking to get a fretless again too , my first was a 80s G&L 2000 with a traditional fingerboard ( stolen in the 90s)
Ive had a few fretless since that had lined finger boards i prefer no lines . Id like to try a Warwick or a Sadowsky if i can see them in person first. 😊
omg, i also am a web developer, play clarinet in the orchestra, and play bass guitar everywhere else!
Ha! Are you sure you're not me?
how is "classic fender look" a pro ? ^^ but very nice vid thx !
Well… taste is subjective, but I think there's a reason half of the instruments out there are copying Fender's designs.
My ultra has none of those issues to each their own though
American professional II looks pretty good to this newb? I saw you got rid of the green (1)one.
My experience with the original American Professional series was pretty good, but I'm concerned that Fender USA's QC has fallen off over the past 3-4 years. I don't know if the issues I had with the American Ultra were design flaws specific to that series or just general slips in quality.
I got a fender Mexican jazz for $612 brand new from sweet water
OK the headstock of sire doesn't look good. But do you really care about it when you play?
the real bass
What is the weight of the p8?
These do tend to be a bit on the heavy side. Sweetwater weighed my particular instrument at 9 pounds 5 ounces, but they had some that were as much a 9 pounds 12 ounces.
It is well balanced. I used it last night in a 2 hour rehearsal and I noticed there’s no neck dive, but I was starting to feel the weight a bit by the end.
Do yourself a favour and get an Ibanez SDGR bass…beats all those basses. My SR600 kicks ass!
For me, way better the Yamaha BB 734A. Zero neck diving (classic Sire problem). Perfect balance sound-ergonomics-price. W Yamaha.
I own and love several Yamaha keyboards and woodwind instruments, so I know they are good. There’s just something about the design aesthetic of their guitars and basses… they’re just… weird looking to me. Since looks matter a lot more with guitars and basses than with most other instruments, I just can’t get past that.
@@room34 sorry for delay :))) BB Series are the few basses that historically emerges with a non-imitating design idea of the classic Fender Jazz or Precisions, but... De gustibus etc etc :)) ciao!
I agree the headstock's awful ...
But everything else is great ... i own 3 v7's
TO HEAD
charvel makes a better bass, no pick guard demarzio pick ups, roasted neck with 1.5 nut. rounded fret board. IMHO .