This, this is the Gold standard of how to do an A/B test...exactly how you can tell the difference, anyone whoever A/B's or ABX TEST AUDIO, THIS IS HOW 10/10 & Good to see mackie is back... time to trade in a pair or 450's v1 made in Italy
Great comparison between these two great sounding speakers. I have been planning to buy a QSC k12.2, but this video has definitely changed my mind. I will go for the Mackie SRM212 because of the depth in the sound.
This is a great review. Mackie SRM212 V-Class Sounds a lot better the the QSC. Been a solid Mackie user for over 10yrs now. This SRM really nailed it. I love you Mackie.
Great review. Welcome back again Mackie. Big fan from the Srm 450 first model and in my opinion I think Mackie did it again with more powerful innovation structure sound with the quality that we all know from the Srm V1. Well done 👏🏻
Great review! The sound difference between the initial comparison. I have the K12.2’s and absolutely love them, to a point. Never been a fan of the new “Dance” mode. Wish there was just a deep mode like the original K-series. There’s too much midrange cut to make it sound decent without extra EQ. The SRM212 sounded really full and nice across all presets. Outdoor/ Indoor mode seems great. Thanks for the review!
"Full across all presets" is a great way to put it. I agree with you on the midrange cut on the K12.2's - It becomes more evident when listening to them side by side with the SRM's, (or even 3-way speaker cabinets) that they lack a bit in the mid range. But like you said, we still love them up til that point. Thanks for watching!
@@BrianDiener there is a reason for midrange cut it makes voices cleaner. when tuning systems almost always mids have to be cut to clean up voices on mics. this would make the k12 better for live music and srm212 better for dj. but an eq can fix alot.
I love this review. I've been on the fence on these for a while. Just rewatched this and I'm getting a pair of 12s and 15s. Also going with a single DRM sub for when I need the added bass.
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what a nice and professional comparison video. I have no more questions...
The mackie sounds significantly better in every respect imo. It's just a cleaner sound. I wonder why pa hasent moved to nicer drivers yet though, because both are trounced by what can be done with the budget on parts express
I'm pretty blown away, are these 12s? I had the k12.2 and thought awesome but these new mackie sound great here. Im pretty shocked. Wow. Great review. Just need to hear someone singing on them now using backing track. As I sing solo.
Thanks for sharing. This video made you a new subscriber 🙏 im a Dj and play only Techno and Psytrance, so i wish you did do this test with some electro music. I planing to host small outdoor events for 2-500 peoples. Will 2 x 15" speakers and 2 x 18" do the job ? To answer you'r video on the review i did think the Mackie sounded much fuller and deeper than the QSC. Im a JBL fan to be honest, but listening to this test with my headset, it was easy to pick Mackie over QSC. Thanks again for the review. If you want to recomend me a bigger set up for my outdoor Raves than 2 x Mackie SRM212 i be happy 🙏
This is an incredibly informative video! The outdoor sound comparison between the Mackie SRM212's & QSC K12.2's was very clear & very helpful. I've been on the fence for a bit as to which speaker line I'm going to upgrade to (I'm coming from the Mackie SRM550 & SRM650 series), and this video has solidified my decision in going toward Mackie's new SRM212 & SRM215 V-Series line. Thank you!
Glad my video could help in your decision! Feel free to purchase through the affiliate link in my video description if you'd like. Enjoy your new speakers!
Great Review! As per the qsc vs mackie When comparing side by side it is expected to sound different due to each manufacturers design and specs. But I do say mackie stepped it up with that sexy look and all in all it does sound much more "Full" in sound. More depth but if you adjust the eqing on the qsc It will sound good. This is definitely a game changer because now people have an additional choice of speakers. 6 year warranty is definitely why qsc also led the market but now that mackie has done it now entertainers have a choice. Whats very important in all is this. Mackie Jbl Qsc Ev are 4 of the top competitors making speakers in different spec ranges and prices. Ultimately you have to budget, listen and choose. There are alot of speaker companies out and the best way is to simply try and decide what works best. I personally had the chance to listen to their drm line array stuff and must say it sounded very nice. Price is definitely a deciding factor. Excellent video and very good job on description of detail. Thanks for the video.
I got QSC K12.2 speaker 10pc ....all have been repair in last 2yr, Qsc K12.2 has alot of power supply problem, speakers get Turn off during the events... I am planing to switch it to SRM 215, I hope it doesn't turn up like QSC K12.2
For me the Macke the has more like a typical active sepeaker sound but the QSC 12.2 is more like a professional sounding cabinet, and the build quality is also much better on the K12.2. If you miss something you can just adjust the eq. I don’t think a speaker needs to sound great out of the box, its better to have a more flat and compressed sound becaouse you can easly adjust it to the room.
Compared to the K12.2s cold sound the SRM 215 vclass is a warm sounding speaker that people will enjoy a lot more than just a cold tin sound from a K12.2
I was looking at the srm’s, qsc and Rcf, the srm’s are surprisingly good but I would need to listen to them to make a decision. I have the Mackie Thumps 2xt15’s and the 115s sub woofer which sound good but I need something more. Let’s see what happens. Thanks for the video.
Kinda feel the Mackie's are a little fat in the low-mids, but that can be addressed with the equalizer. Whereas, the K12.2's seemed a little thinner or somewhat hollow in the mid-voice range, but definitely offered clearer voices.
In dance mode, before the voice kicked in, I found the ksc tighter, but yes the highs are really a selling point for the mackies. But as we just play techno/psytrance. I’m not sure which might be better.
the srm215 will have amazing punch - I bought the 210 and am blown away by the throw of the punch. I can’t imagine how good the 15’s would sound over decent 18” subs
Almost all speakers are on sale right now, Mackies don’t always sound the best I have 3 thumps one of which is a different generation that are not bad but not good but - these sound pretty dang good in my option. I may have to go with these over QSCs. I love QSCs if they didn’t fail and crap out on you and need constant updates or whatever just to work I’d go with QSC, but I think I can work with a little mid range punch these mackies have to get the reliability they offer. I’ve never had a mackie crap out on me. But I know lots of people who have QSCs crap out on them, and my band had it happen once too with one of ours. Could not get it to work at all at a gig., took it home, plugged it in, and it worked fine. Just absolutely ridiculous that they can’t figure this out. I thousand dollars for a damn speaker should at least get reliability out of it.
Thanks for the review. Question: When you switched the Mackie to "Live" and "Club" EQ presets, did you also switch the QSC to its "Live" and "Dance" presets? If so, that is an incredible difference! If not, it's not a fair comparison.
Yes that is correct. The label at the top of the screen shows the mode both speakers are set to so it's as equal as possible! Live versus live. Club versus dance. And so on. However, these presets are each company's vision for what the speaker should sound like in that given situation with their respective herbs and spices of DSP and EQ. These presets are inherently subjective, so they're not really supposed to sound identical just because the modes are both the same. Rather, it's up to the listener to determine which recipe tastes better!
Hi! I want to know if i synchronize two speaker SRM V-Class, and a single one speaker is connect to mixer with xlr cable, the other speaker not need cable for signal? Thank you!
The SRM215 and SRM212 effectively have the same voicing and signal processing. Only difference is the 215 has a three inch bigger low frequency driver - meaning, it will be able to hit slightly lower frequencies and have a slightly higher peak SPL.
Yes I have, plenty of horsepower. They're on par with K12.2's in terms of output. Wider dispersion at 90º versus the K12.2's at 75º. But the SRM212 V Class has slightly more dB output, so they kinda even out. They limit differently than the QSC's though. The QSC's have an overall volume dip at limit. Whereas the Mackie's sound more like a frequency-specific dip at the problem area.
@BrianDiener okay thanks when you were testing outside did you have any issues with the mids being over powered. Last question how do feel about ev speakers
Overpowered mids wasn't something that I noticed, no. EV is one brand I rarely get to work with, so I don't really have an opinion. But they seem to have a good reputation and acceptable sound quality.
Great great video,can u make a video with thump 212xt,i want to bay this speakers,but i want to be sure ,i have thump12A and i want to keep this brand MACKIE,THANKS
During my testing, I let them sit in the sun for about an hour on a 90ºF day - no issues to report there. I've yet to use them in the sun at a longer event, but I'm not worried about it. The SRM212's are fully HALT tested and approved, which involves letting them run at max volume for 100 hours while the room temperature gradually increases to well over 100ºF. So that inspires confidence for me knowing they can pass the stress test. The current temperature of the speaker can also be checked and monitored in the "about" section of the digital interface as well.
@@BrianDiener thanks I’ve been really looking at these in their price point the feature set is really attractive. I just need a chance to hear them against the EKX and DXRmk2. Might have to actually head to the dj expo next month too hear everything since big box stores have very little right now.
You’re debating on the size of the woofer or the overall size and weight of the speaker cabinet? Haven’t personally used the 15’s - I would recommend testing them in person at your local music store before buying!
@@BrianDiener I say this because the SPLs are 1 digit away from each other. I know the 15s pack bass, and they can be used w/out a sub depending on the crowd. Thanks for responding back.
@@kapisithekid2843 Gotcha! Yeah in that case, it just depends what you plan to use them for! If you're playing for larger crowds, the extra bit of woofer size couldn't hurt.
Aside from the fact the Thump A series is discontinued, the Thump12A is capable of 126dB peak SPL. Whereas the SRM212 is capable of 135dB peak SPL. That's a massive difference in output.
Sure thing! You may have just pointed out a missing link in this product series that most people haven't realized. Hopefully Mackie is working on a V-Class sub. I think that would be a fantastic addition.
QSC are a bit over priced & over rated imo. So many audio guys just go straight to what ever brand is deemed the "industry standard" & QSC is it for active cabinets. But there's lots of others offer just as good or better sound for less money.
I was always convinced that mackie where a low level cheap brand but after using their dlm series I was instantly impressed with the compact design and now mackie are one of my favourites
This, this is the Gold standard of how to do an A/B test...exactly how you can tell the difference, anyone whoever A/B's or ABX TEST AUDIO, THIS IS HOW 10/10 & Good to see mackie is back... time to trade in a pair or 450's v1 made in Italy
Mackie for the win. Clarity at louder levels. DRMs are wood cabinets & amazing!!!
Great comparison between these two great sounding speakers. I have been planning to buy a QSC k12.2, but this video has definitely changed my mind. I will go for the Mackie SRM212 because of the depth in the sound.
This is a great review. Mackie SRM212 V-Class Sounds a lot better the the QSC. Been a solid Mackie user for over 10yrs now. This SRM really nailed it. I love you Mackie.
Do you know where is the limit indicator?
Great review.
Welcome back again Mackie.
Big fan from the Srm 450 first model and in my opinion I think Mackie did it again with more powerful innovation structure sound with the quality that we all know from the Srm V1.
Well done 👏🏻
Great review! The sound difference between the initial comparison. I have the K12.2’s and absolutely love them, to a point. Never been a fan of the new “Dance” mode. Wish there was just a deep mode like the original K-series. There’s too much midrange cut to make it sound decent without extra EQ. The SRM212 sounded really full and nice across all presets. Outdoor/ Indoor mode seems great. Thanks for the review!
"Full across all presets" is a great way to put it. I agree with you on the midrange cut on the K12.2's - It becomes more evident when listening to them side by side with the SRM's, (or even 3-way speaker cabinets) that they lack a bit in the mid range. But like you said, we still love them up til that point. Thanks for watching!
@@BrianDiener there is a reason for midrange cut it makes voices cleaner. when tuning systems almost always mids have to be cut to clean up voices on mics. this would make the k12 better for live music and srm212 better for dj. but an eq can fix alot.
@@jhue73 Absolutely!
I love this review. I've been on the fence on these for a while. Just rewatched this and I'm getting a pair of 12s and 15s. Also going with a single DRM sub for when I need the added bass.
what a nice and professional comparison video. I have no more questions...
Wow I am blown away by your video quality. You can really tell that this video has been shot on a professional Camera. Keep up the great work
Again, great review my friend. Those Mackie's are wonderful, as are the QSC's.
The mackie sounds significantly better in every respect imo. It's just a cleaner sound. I wonder why pa hasent moved to nicer drivers yet though, because both are trounced by what can be done with the budget on parts express
love your edits, quality review and video, subbed
I'm pretty blown away, are these 12s? I had the k12.2 and thought awesome but these new mackie sound great here. Im pretty shocked. Wow. Great review. Just need to hear someone singing on them now using backing track. As I sing solo.
The best speakers comparison video I ever saw.
There is a huge volume and fullness difference wow
Thanks for sharing. This video made you a new subscriber 🙏 im a Dj and play only Techno and Psytrance, so i wish you did do this test with some electro music.
I planing to host small outdoor events for 2-500 peoples. Will 2 x 15" speakers and 2 x 18" do the job ?
To answer you'r video on the review i did think the Mackie sounded much fuller and deeper than the QSC.
Im a JBL fan to be honest, but listening to this test with my headset, it was easy to pick Mackie over QSC.
Thanks again for the review. If you want to recomend me a bigger set up for my outdoor Raves than 2 x Mackie SRM212 i be happy 🙏
This is an incredibly informative video! The outdoor sound comparison between the Mackie SRM212's & QSC K12.2's was very clear & very helpful. I've been on the fence for a bit as to which speaker line I'm going to upgrade to (I'm coming from the Mackie SRM550 & SRM650 series), and this video has solidified my decision in going toward Mackie's new SRM212 & SRM215 V-Series line. Thank you!
Glad my video could help in your decision! Feel free to purchase through the affiliate link in my video description if you'd like. Enjoy your new speakers!
Wow your Productions Value was amazing you really did a Lot of work very Professional Review thanks for the info
Great Review!
As per the qsc vs mackie
When comparing side by side it is expected to sound different due to each manufacturers design and specs. But I do say mackie stepped it up with that sexy look and all in all it does sound much more "Full" in sound. More depth but if you adjust the eqing on the qsc It will sound good. This is definitely a game changer because now people have an additional choice of speakers. 6 year warranty is definitely why qsc also led the market but now that mackie has done it now entertainers have a choice. Whats very important in all is this. Mackie Jbl Qsc Ev are 4 of the top competitors making speakers in different spec ranges and prices. Ultimately you have to budget, listen and choose. There are alot of speaker companies out and the best way is to simply try and decide what works best. I personally had the chance to listen to their drm line array stuff and must say it sounded very nice. Price is definitely a deciding factor. Excellent video and very good job on description of detail. Thanks for the video.
I got QSC K12.2 speaker 10pc ....all have been repair in last 2yr, Qsc K12.2 has alot of power supply problem, speakers get Turn off during the events...
I am planing to switch it to SRM 215, I hope it doesn't turn up like QSC K12.2
Is this frequent??? I’ve been having the same problem with the k12.2
For me the Macke the has more like a typical active sepeaker sound but the QSC 12.2 is more like a professional sounding cabinet, and the build quality is also much better on the K12.2. If you miss something you can just adjust the eq. I don’t think a speaker needs to sound great out of the box, its better to have a more flat and compressed sound becaouse you can easly adjust it to the room.
un qsc lover no acepta la realidad
@@jdaguilera3753 😂😂😂 Mackie lover does not accept reality
Compared to the K12.2s cold sound the SRM 215 vclass is a warm sounding speaker that people will enjoy a lot more than just a cold tin sound from a K12.2
I’m on the fence between the 12s and 15s. I play solo and need a deep bass. So you think the 15s make that much of a difference? Thx
The mackie sounds so much better than the qsc
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Greetings!
Excluding Bose F1, etc.. which loudspeaker systems are the best money can buy?
just… no.
I agree with you based on what I heard through my earphones while watching this video
@@josealfredfernandeslol Greetings , but I cannot decided for you, I don’t know what you like from what you don’t like.
Este video es mejor que el mio
Saw your written review on the Guitar Center website!! Great video!!
I was looking at the srm’s, qsc and Rcf, the srm’s are surprisingly good but I would need to listen to them to make a decision. I have the Mackie Thumps 2xt15’s and the 115s sub woofer which sound good but I need something more. Let’s see what happens. Thanks for the video.
Now I am between these and RCF Art 9. Which one sounds best?
@6:00 the mackies do sound much crisper. K12 sounds a bit muddy....
Awesome review. Sold me on it.
So in the long run those would be worth while
That wasn't neck and neck; not through my headphones, at least. SRM for the win.
Yep
Kinda feel the Mackie's are a little fat in the low-mids, but that can be addressed with the equalizer. Whereas, the K12.2's seemed a little thinner or somewhat hollow in the mid-voice range, but definitely offered clearer voices.
In dance mode, before the voice kicked in, I found the ksc tighter, but yes the highs are really a selling point for the mackies. But as we just play techno/psytrance. I’m not sure which might be better.
the srm215 will have amazing punch - I bought the 210 and am blown away by the throw of the punch. I can’t imagine how good the 15’s would sound over decent 18” subs
Almost all speakers are on sale right now, Mackies don’t always sound the best I have 3 thumps one of which is a different generation that are not bad but not good but - these sound pretty dang good in my option. I may have to go with these over QSCs. I love QSCs if they didn’t fail and crap out on you and need constant updates or whatever just to work I’d go with QSC, but I think I can work with a little mid range punch these mackies have to get the reliability they offer. I’ve never had a mackie crap out on me. But I know lots of people who have QSCs crap out on them, and my band had it happen once too with one of ours. Could not get it to work at all at a gig., took it home, plugged it in, and it worked fine. Just absolutely ridiculous that they can’t figure this out. I thousand dollars for a damn speaker should at least get reliability out of it.
Thanks for the review. Question: When you switched the Mackie to "Live" and "Club" EQ presets, did you also switch the QSC to its "Live" and "Dance" presets? If so, that is an incredible difference! If not, it's not a fair comparison.
Yes that is correct. The label at the top of the screen shows the mode both speakers are set to so it's as equal as possible! Live versus live. Club versus dance. And so on. However, these presets are each company's vision for what the speaker should sound like in that given situation with their respective herbs and spices of DSP and EQ. These presets are inherently subjective, so they're not really supposed to sound identical just because the modes are both the same. Rather, it's up to the listener to determine which recipe tastes better!
Awesome review I now need to hear them in person I currently have qsc
Hi! I want to know if i synchronize two speaker SRM V-Class, and a single one speaker is connect to mixer with xlr cable, the other speaker not need cable for signal? Thank you!
Great question, I'm actually not sure. Let me test it next week and get back to you.
Does it has better sound than Mackie SRM215 V-Class 15" 2000 Watt ? great video!
The SRM215 and SRM212 effectively have the same voicing and signal processing. Only difference is the 215 has a three inch bigger low frequency driver - meaning, it will be able to hit slightly lower frequencies and have a slightly higher peak SPL.
Can you pair that speaker with the regular SRM450
@@BrianDiener
Yes you can link it to any other powered loudspeaker via an XLR cable.
Have you pushed these to see how loud they get before clipping
Yes I have, plenty of horsepower. They're on par with K12.2's in terms of output. Wider dispersion at 90º versus the K12.2's at 75º. But the SRM212 V Class has slightly more dB output, so they kinda even out.
They limit differently than the QSC's though. The QSC's have an overall volume dip at limit. Whereas the Mackie's sound more like a frequency-specific dip at the problem area.
@BrianDiener okay thanks when you were testing outside did you have any issues with the mids being over powered. Last question how do feel about ev speakers
Overpowered mids wasn't something that I noticed, no. EV is one brand I rarely get to work with, so I don't really have an opinion. But they seem to have a good reputation and acceptable sound quality.
So long story short are these keepers are return
Great great video,can u make a video with thump 212xt,i want to bay this speakers,but i want to be sure ,i have thump12A and i want to keep this brand MACKIE,THANKS
Mackie sounds way much better 🔥
How is the bass on these things live?
Have you used them in the sun and experience any thermal issues.
During my testing, I let them sit in the sun for about an hour on a 90ºF day - no issues to report there. I've yet to use them in the sun at a longer event, but I'm not worried about it. The SRM212's are fully HALT tested and approved, which involves letting them run at max volume for 100 hours while the room temperature gradually increases to well over 100ºF. So that inspires confidence for me knowing they can pass the stress test. The current temperature of the speaker can also be checked and monitored in the "about" section of the digital interface as well.
@@BrianDiener thanks I’ve been really looking at these in their price point the feature set is really attractive. I just need a chance to hear them against the EKX and DXRmk2. Might have to actually head to the dj expo next month too hear everything since big box stores have very little right now.
For party srm v class/ for singers qsc 12.2
Exactly that's what I thought the QSC sounded cold/softer
best reviewer for speaker
Hi Brian, is it an overkill speaker for solo signing with only delay and reverb and without any instruments?
It depends on the size of the audience!
👍🏻 nicely shot
In your opinion, are the 12s as close to the 15s? Really debating on the size.
You’re debating on the size of the woofer or the overall size and weight of the speaker cabinet? Haven’t personally used the 15’s - I would recommend testing them in person at your local music store before buying!
@@BrianDiener I say this because the SPLs are 1 digit away from each other. I know the 15s pack bass, and they can be used w/out a sub depending on the crowd. Thanks for responding back.
@@kapisithekid2843 Gotcha! Yeah in that case, it just depends what you plan to use them for! If you're playing for larger crowds, the extra bit of woofer size couldn't hurt.
Can those lights on the front be turned off during playback? I think they look awful 😞
Yes you can turn off or change color from green to white
What's the difference between the srm and the thump A? Speaking about power be cause both are 650 RMS
Aside from the fact the Thump A series is discontinued, the Thump12A is capable of 126dB peak SPL. Whereas the SRM212 is capable of 135dB peak SPL. That's a massive difference in output.
@@BrianDiener that is a difference right there thank you
Why no buddy talking about this !!!!
QSC k12.2 is professinal grade. Adjust the sound to your liking with EQ❕️
That’s what I’m thinking I’m about to pull the trigger on the qsc speakers it’s all eq
s there a V-class Sub woofer available?
I don't believe there is a V-Class subwoofer out yet. The next closest thing I could find is the SRT Series SR18S.
Thanks SO much@@BrianDiener
Sure thing! You may have just pointed out a missing link in this product series that most people haven't realized. Hopefully Mackie is working on a V-Class sub. I think that would be a fantastic addition.
Ive had mine not quite a year and the woofer is blown
Which speaker
Mackie is the best
Thank you!
Mackie wow 🔊🔥😳
QSC are a bit over priced & over rated imo. So many audio guys just go straight to what ever brand is deemed the "industry standard" & QSC is it for active cabinets. But there's lots of others offer just as good or better sound for less money.
Yes I agree qsc are pretty overpriced for what you get mackie are better at their price point
Wooowwwww….Mackie🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
It is shocking to hear how lame QSC sounded after being compared side by side with Mackie
I was always convinced that mackie where a low level cheap brand but after using their dlm series I was instantly impressed with the compact design and now mackie are one of my favourites
From the video sound I don’t hear any difference between the 2 boxes.
Clean ur ears bro
@@mrdobika4635 yea there was a pretty big difference between them
live mode sound best for mackie
A lot more bass from Mackie
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But does it have more drop
Deep base than a headrush 1/12 🤔 anyone ?