FINALLY SOMEONES TALKING ABOUT THIS TYSMMMM!! I love kpop but the beauty standards are just horrible, I wish we could all just foucous on idol's skills and stop picking on their appearance!! Jeongyeon deserves sm better, I hope people will stop hating on her for her weight and just love her for how skilled and kind she is!!
jeongyeon is just as unhealthy as wonyoung and any other underweight kpop idol, she is fat now and she wasn’t underweight before her weight gain- she had a normal bmi weight so she didn’t need to loose or gain weight. also y’all call her “healthy” now but then say that she gained weight because of her meds, which isn’t healthy. medications can’t make you gain weight because they don’t contain calories, excess calories are what causes weight gain (any professional or just anyone can tell you this, you don’t need to be einstein.) just taking it doesn’t cause weight gain but the side effect of it screwing your hormones and maybe making you hungry is the reason for the weight gain. if jeongyeon had lost weight from her meds y’all would call it “unhealthy”, but since y’all are too afraid to talk about fatness- you just call her "healthy"
She’s taking the meds for her health. How she looks as a result of the medication can’t be controlled. The thing with adults is that our bodies don’t remain the same as when we’re teens and in our early 20s. You don’t know jeongyeons bmi, you don’t know how she eats, you don’t know how much she exercises. She could very well be undereating and she won’t visibly lose weight, cause your body doesn’t change the way you want it to because you will it to. How you want her to look is not the same thing as what’s healthy for her. Whether you find her attractive is not her problem. You don’t know how others people’s bodies work, so don’t criticize or try to give advice to anyone else. Focus on what’s healthy for your own body
Did your really say medication can't make you gain weight? Yall just talk without doing basic research or having any knowledge about medicine. Google what steroids in medication can do to the body as a side effect. Being uneducated isn't cute
Korean beauty standards are insane, but I see people in the comments saying that it’s not our place to criticize because we are not a part of Korean culture. To that I say that just because it’s a part of their culture doesn’t make it okay to bully people. Racism is also a part of other cultures but that doesn’t make it okay. We can acknowledge that Korean beauty standards are insane, without hating on Korean culture in general. Especially when Korean celebrities are committing harmful acts towards themselves because of these beauty standards. Even Koreans themselves agree that the cultural beauty standard is impossible to obtain without cosmetic surgery. So much of the beauty standards foster feelings of inadequacy and self hatred. We can appreciate Korean culture but disagree with their beauty standards, and to think that you can’t is ignorant and harmful.
Look man. This is entertainment industry. Money matters. Looks matter. What is so hard so understand. For jeongyeon she has medical reasons. Thus she can be defended from fat shaming. And if u think a fat person can do a choreo in the same level as a thin person u are lying to yourself
A thin person might not do choreo well if they don’t have enough energy from starving. Im visibly thin but I bet there’s people bigger than that can are better at more physical activities than me. How someone looks does not dictate how skilled they are or how much effort they put into their health. You think thin people are better at dancing because prefer how they look, it says nothing about how they actually execute the dance
@@dotcom3015 I am not talking about any extremes. Jeongyeon danced much better before her weight gain. Wonder why. Too skinny or too fat neither is ideal.
@@Yumedekissmeee no she didn’t, she’s always been one of the lowest ranked members when it came to dance and stage presence in twice. And objectively, twice performances are still in sync as a group, so she’s doing her job as well as she always has. If you don’t like how she dances, then don’t watch her fancams. But she’s never distracting unless you’re entirely focused on her weight.
@@dotcom3015 she is not distracting to me. But for someone who has never watched Twice before it sure will be. And also she was much sharper or atleast looked sharper before.
@@Yumedekissmeee if she’s not distracting for you, then what’s the problem? Don’t worry about whether she’s distracting for other people. The same applies to them, if her weight bothers them, they don’t have to watch her. Chaeyoung is usually regarded as the weakest dancer in twice, if she’s the smallest and skinniest member, then why is jeongyeon a better performer than her
Me: *slowly deletes long angry paragraph* I really thought at the beginning of the video that you were getting upset at them gaining weight 😅 Thank you for this video though 🥰
Difference environments with people, others training experience exercising with nurturing dietary choices and decisions healthy and balance lifestyle situations.
I’m Asian and I can tell you that the beauty standards are not eastern culture, it’s eastern media. Asians might be biologically smaller or thinner, but not that much. Real people do not fit the beauty standards and even idols don’t fit the standard all the time. Nayeon was criticized for being bloated in a sitting position and Hanni for how her stomach looked while dancing. People just don’t understand how bodies work
But based on your other video…what Korean K-pop fans say should be the main thing that matters and whatever westerners say shouldn’t matter. So why make this video? That’s Korean beauty standards right?
@@maro557 I mean... Fatphobia is global, not specific to Korea... We all know what those high standards do to idols. That's like saying "Bullying is okay, because it's part of American (or any other) culture" for example
@@maro557 if the consequences are actively harming people, the actions can and should be challenged regardless of whatever cultural origins they may stem from.
@@juhoylitalo9107 I get what you mean but this creator literally made a video talking about how westerners shouldn’t push this “progressive “ views on idols or Koreans
I personally love your content but your channel is so flop😢.IMO,you can combine 4-5 vid into 1 video and release daily as you do now.Also try to speak everything less repetitive and hit the right point❤
FINALLY SOMEONES TALKING ABOUT THIS TYSMMMM!! I love kpop but the beauty standards are just horrible, I wish we could all just foucous on idol's skills and stop picking on their appearance!! Jeongyeon deserves sm better, I hope people will stop hating on her for her weight and just love her for how skilled and kind she is!!
jeongyeon is just as unhealthy as wonyoung and any other underweight kpop idol, she is fat now and she wasn’t underweight before her weight gain- she had a normal bmi weight so she didn’t need to loose or gain weight. also y’all call her “healthy” now but then say that she gained weight because of her meds, which isn’t healthy. medications can’t make you gain weight because they don’t contain calories, excess calories are what causes weight gain (any professional or just anyone can tell you this, you don’t need to be einstein.) just taking it doesn’t cause weight gain but the side effect of it screwing your hormones and maybe making you hungry is the reason for the weight gain. if jeongyeon had lost weight from her meds y’all would call it “unhealthy”, but since y’all are too afraid to talk about fatness- you just call her "healthy"
She’s taking the meds for her health. How she looks as a result of the medication can’t be controlled. The thing with adults is that our bodies don’t remain the same as when we’re teens and in our early 20s. You don’t know jeongyeons bmi, you don’t know how she eats, you don’t know how much she exercises. She could very well be undereating and she won’t visibly lose weight, cause your body doesn’t change the way you want it to because you will it to. How you want her to look is not the same thing as what’s healthy for her. Whether you find her attractive is not her problem. You don’t know how others people’s bodies work, so don’t criticize or try to give advice to anyone else. Focus on what’s healthy for your own body
Did your really say medication can't make you gain weight? Yall just talk without doing basic research or having any knowledge about medicine. Google what steroids in medication can do to the body as a side effect. Being uneducated isn't cute
Korean beauty standards are insane, but I see people in the comments saying that it’s not our place to criticize because we are not a part of Korean culture.
To that I say that just because it’s a part of their culture doesn’t make it okay to bully people. Racism is also a part of other cultures but that doesn’t make it okay. We can acknowledge that Korean beauty standards are insane, without hating on Korean culture in general.
Especially when Korean celebrities are committing harmful acts towards themselves because of these beauty standards. Even Koreans themselves agree that the cultural beauty standard is impossible to obtain without cosmetic surgery.
So much of the beauty standards foster feelings of inadequacy and self hatred. We can appreciate Korean culture but disagree with their beauty standards, and to think that you can’t is ignorant and harmful.
Look man. This is entertainment industry. Money matters. Looks matter. What is so hard so understand. For jeongyeon she has medical reasons. Thus she can be defended from fat shaming. And if u think a fat person can do a choreo in the same level as a thin person u are lying to yourself
A thin person might not do choreo well if they don’t have enough energy from starving. Im visibly thin but I bet there’s people bigger than that can are better at more physical activities than me. How someone looks does not dictate how skilled they are or how much effort they put into their health. You think thin people are better at dancing because prefer how they look, it says nothing about how they actually execute the dance
@@dotcom3015 I am not talking about any extremes. Jeongyeon danced much better before her weight gain. Wonder why. Too skinny or too fat neither is ideal.
@@Yumedekissmeee no she didn’t, she’s always been one of the lowest ranked members when it came to dance and stage presence in twice. And objectively, twice performances are still in sync as a group, so she’s doing her job as well as she always has. If you don’t like how she dances, then don’t watch her fancams. But she’s never distracting unless you’re entirely focused on her weight.
@@dotcom3015 she is not distracting to me. But for someone who has never watched Twice before it sure will be. And also she was much sharper or atleast looked sharper before.
@@Yumedekissmeee if she’s not distracting for you, then what’s the problem? Don’t worry about whether she’s distracting for other people. The same applies to them, if her weight bothers them, they don’t have to watch her. Chaeyoung is usually regarded as the weakest dancer in twice, if she’s the smallest and skinniest member, then why is jeongyeon a better performer than her
Being too thin or too heavy is not good for your health whatsoever
She isn't too heavy tho ???
Dude, she's really fucking normal, she isn't overweight at all.
Health depends on what you eat and how active you are, not how you look.
@@dotcom3015 you are correct 👍
@@reikasura some people think she is too heavy but what do they know they are not medical experts
We can see she gained weight but one comment crossed the line when they said she looked like a 70-year-old woman, like wtf
So many good points
Me: *slowly deletes long angry paragraph* I really thought at the beginning of the video that you were getting upset at them gaining weight 😅
Thank you for this video though 🥰
FIRST THANKS FOR POSTING POOKIE
Difference environments with people, others training experience exercising with nurturing dietary choices and decisions healthy and balance lifestyle situations.
Unfortunately honey, nobody really care about who the idol is as a person if she's not fit/skinny enough
Westerns criticizing eastern culture is so arrogant and nonsense.
I’m Asian and I can tell you that the beauty standards are not eastern culture, it’s eastern media. Asians might be biologically smaller or thinner, but not that much. Real people do not fit the beauty standards and even idols don’t fit the standard all the time. Nayeon was criticized for being bloated in a sitting position and Hanni for how her stomach looked while dancing. People just don’t understand how bodies work
But based on your other video…what Korean K-pop fans say should be the main thing that matters and whatever westerners say shouldn’t matter. So why make this video? That’s Korean beauty standards right?
Koreans don’t even fit the beauty standards naturally
To be honest, this is just a part of their culture... us as westerners really shouldnt be telling people to change how their culture works.
So it's okay to be shitty to someone because of their culture????
@@juhoylitalo9107 In our opinion, no its not okay. But who are we to tell people what they need to change about their culture because we dont like it
@@maro557 I mean... Fatphobia is global, not specific to Korea... We all know what those high standards do to idols. That's like saying "Bullying is okay, because it's part of American (or any other) culture" for example
@@maro557 if the consequences are actively harming people, the actions can and should be challenged regardless of whatever cultural origins they may stem from.
@@juhoylitalo9107 I get what you mean but this creator literally made a video talking about how westerners shouldn’t push this “progressive “ views on idols or Koreans
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I personally love your content but your channel is so flop😢.IMO,you can combine 4-5 vid into 1 video and release daily as you do now.Also try to speak everything less repetitive and hit the right point❤
You're a nobody. You can't give advices about nothing to anybody.
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