Been riding trials for many years, much of it in the expert class. The double blip does not require two clutch releases. I use the clutch to place the front wheel approximately 3/4 of the way up, the suspension compresses and the second blip can be just throttle. The second flick of the clutch lever is certainly not mandatory.
You can orient to a half of a second between clutch releases, remember this pace to be ready to react really quickly, it is much faster than you can expect when imagining the trick in your mind. And you need to start jumping up and forward BEFORE the front wheel touch.
I’m just learning to double tap over logs and finding it quite hard until I started watching your videos. I’ll make a video on my progress soon. Keep them coming guys 🙌🏻
Idiot- 983 I’ve been seriously considering getting a trails bike to practise on. Cross training keep saying how good a trails bike is to improve Hard Enduro skills. I just need to convince some friends 🤪
@@ROCKETRALPH I waited till I was 57 years old to get a trials Bike, don't make the same mistake. I love it you will find little playgrounds everywhere. My back yard looks kool with logs and big rocks.
What a coincidence! I just did a how-to video on the zap. He's double blipping and just rolling the small logs, and using the zap on the big log. Double blip doesn't unload, zap does. What he says about trials bikes needing more precision is so true and I'm always saying that dirt bikes are easier because of that. However trials bikes are easier to learn on BECAUSE of that, because when you don't use the technique correctly you will definitely know.
Having owned a trials bike for a short time period, I totally agree! The learning curve is steep, but once you get it, the payoff will be Huge for the Enduro bike.. I have to give it a go again now that my lower back is getting better, previously I couldn't ride for more than 20 minutes without being in pain.
@@PrimalEnduro when I first got my trials bike it was painful even as a young buck, it's a very different position to be in compared to standing on the dirt bike. Eventually my body adjusted after weeks of 2 or 3 days a week of practice.
@@DirtJunkie Good info. At least I know it's not just another "old man" ailment! I really need to get one again, and see if I can get some friends to join me.
Excellent video. Do you or any of these enduro guys use preloading (mechanical) in the front shocks? Or turn down the rebound? One would think it would add some extra pop to getting the front up.. or would this make it more difficult? It seems like in these videos and some with mr.jarvis you're bouncing the front wheel all over. With my stock suspension its hard to get it bouncing without throttle.
What compression and rebound settings to use for the forks and shock for this style of riding? Pardon me if that’s a dumb question. I ride lightly and recreationally, but am wondering what is a favourable bias for those settings. Because you want help from the forks to lift up the front wheel in most maneuvers, I figure lowering rebound damping is favourable. 🤷♂️
As Tim states in the video, he generally likes his suspension's rebound to be on the quicker side (less damping) to allow the bike to react quickly (more bounce)
My problem is i cant do the punch technique while my fingers is hovering over the clutch(one time my whole left hand slip off the bar) or front brake soon as i grip the handle bar with all fingers i can do it perfect everytime...i dont know how to train for that so for now when i need to cross a bigger log i just go around it...i haven't even try the double bip.
I have seen people move their clutch IN towards the center of the bars, so that the end of the clutch (or brake for that matter) are more towards the center of your grip. The end of the clutch handle is where the most leverage is and doesn't need as much work for that one or two fingers to pull it.
No koolaid here bud. I've had plenty of KTM's but my last 3 bikes have been Beta's and the next will be Sherco. There's nothing wrong with liking Orange, I just prefer something different.
@@PrimalEnduro no.worries.. just thought it was a sponsored ride. Thanks for posting the video though. Yeah, sherco would be my choice if i could choose too.
@@kiwi-moto Having been on Beta since 2014, it's a really solid bike with a few quirks (all brands have some problems) but the one thing that has taken a long time to catch up is aftermarket support. Beta is just starting to get a good bit of it, but Sherco is still way behind them in that department... There is something nice about being able to get parts from multiple sources if your dealer doesn't have what you need on hand. All that being said I would still go for Sherco if I had the chance.
@@PrimalEnduro I hear you on that. Nice being on a Yamaha as parts are really fast/easier to get. In my location the Beta/Sherco dealership are 2hr drive away (4hr round trip) so parts supply tough, and only 1 dealership in the immediate area. KTM/Husky have the draw because of a better relative dealership model.
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The q&A to break it down further on the second clutch in and out was super helpful. Most videos don't mention that
Been riding trials for many years, much of it in the expert class. The double blip does not require two clutch releases. I use the clutch to place the front wheel approximately 3/4 of the way up, the suspension compresses and the second blip can be just throttle. The second flick of the clutch lever is certainly not mandatory.
Thanks for the clarification, maybe the "blip" is actually meant to be just throttle, not necessarily clutch.
You can orient to a half of a second between clutch releases, remember this pace to be ready to react really quickly, it is much faster than you can expect when imagining the trick in your mind. And you need to start jumping up and forward BEFORE the front wheel touch.
I’m just learning to double tap over logs and finding it quite hard until I started watching your videos.
I’ll make a video on my progress soon.
Keep them coming guys 🙌🏻
Thanks! Looking forward to seeing you progress!
You should check out some trials how to videos they help a lot also.
@@idiot-983 Heck Yes! Trials is the foundation hard enduro is built on!
Idiot- 983 I’ve been seriously considering getting a trails bike to practise on. Cross training keep saying how good a trails bike is to improve Hard Enduro skills. I just need to convince some friends 🤪
@@ROCKETRALPH I waited till I was 57 years old to get a trials Bike, don't make the same mistake. I love it you will find little playgrounds everywhere. My back yard looks kool with logs and big rocks.
I love the way Tim explains! Keep it up.
He really does have a great way of explaining and also demonstrating the techniques!
@@PrimalEnduro nice to see he was on a 4T doing it
PrimalEnduro channel your DOING a great job covering very relevant topics. Hope you achieve all your goals this year !! :)
Best explanation ever. Thanks for posting!
What a coincidence! I just did a how-to video on the zap. He's double blipping and just rolling the small logs, and using the zap on the big log. Double blip doesn't unload, zap does. What he says about trials bikes needing more precision is so true and I'm always saying that dirt bikes are easier because of that. However trials bikes are easier to learn on BECAUSE of that, because when you don't use the technique correctly you will definitely know.
Having owned a trials bike for a short time period, I totally agree! The learning curve is steep, but once you get it, the payoff will be Huge for the Enduro bike.. I have to give it a go again now that my lower back is getting better, previously I couldn't ride for more than 20 minutes without being in pain.
@@PrimalEnduro when I first got my trials bike it was painful even as a young buck, it's a very different position to be in compared to standing on the dirt bike. Eventually my body adjusted after weeks of 2 or 3 days a week of practice.
@@DirtJunkie Good info. At least I know it's not just another "old man" ailment! I really need to get one again, and see if I can get some friends to join me.
His bike sounds awesome. What cc is it, and what muffler / exhaust does it have, please? I want that sound!
where's the music and the failed attempts? that's the best part!
I've got a whole separate video with just the gumby's attempts. Should be ready early next week!
@@PrimalEnduro failed attempts yes. Music, naa
Looks so easy... when Tim does it 🙂
Tim makes everything look easy!
Excellent video. Do you or any of these enduro guys use preloading
(mechanical) in the front shocks? Or turn down the rebound? One would think it would add some extra pop to getting the front up.. or would this make it more
difficult? It seems like in these videos and some with mr.jarvis you're bouncing the front wheel all over. With my stock suspension its hard to get it bouncing without throttle.
Yes loosen the rebound
What compression and rebound settings to use for the forks and shock for this style of riding?
Pardon me if that’s a dumb question. I ride lightly and recreationally, but am wondering what is a favourable bias for those settings.
Because you want help from the forks to lift up the front wheel in most maneuvers, I figure lowering rebound damping is favourable. 🤷♂️
As Tim states in the video, he generally likes his suspension's rebound to be on the quicker side (less damping) to allow the bike to react quickly (more bounce)
My problem is i cant do the punch technique while my fingers is hovering over the clutch(one time my whole left hand slip off the bar) or front brake soon as i grip the handle bar with all fingers i can do it perfect everytime...i dont know how to train for that so for now when i need to cross a bigger log i just go around it...i haven't even try the double bip.
Most Pro riders recommend using just one finger on the clutch and brake.
@@PrimalEnduro my clutch is too hard but I'll look into making it softer.
Same as me until I got the clake one light clutch lever.. awesome bit of kit
I have seen people move their clutch IN towards the center of the bars, so that the end of the clutch (or brake for that matter) are more towards the center of your grip. The end of the clutch handle is where the most leverage is and doesn't need as much work for that one or two fingers to pull it.
The breakdown questioning by the peanut gallery IMO actually made it easier to comprehend 😁
From one peanut to another....I agree!
Very good for an 'old Newbee'
Whats PDS?
KTM has a linkless rear shock setup called PDS which stands for Progressive Damping System.
@@PrimalEnduro thank you 👍
Good lesson 🤟😃until I want to ride💪✊pzdr
I got the same bike, the same gear but not the same skills.
Does anyone know what is the right gear for this technique? 1st or 2nd?
I would say first for most bikes.
Is this a 350?
Yes 350exc loaner bike
thanks for the vid. Sponsored by Orange Koodaid? ;-) lots of KTMs there
No koolaid here bud. I've had plenty of KTM's but my last 3 bikes have been Beta's and the next will be Sherco. There's nothing wrong with liking Orange, I just prefer something different.
@@PrimalEnduro no.worries.. just thought it was a sponsored ride. Thanks for posting the video though. Yeah, sherco would be my choice if i could choose too.
@@kiwi-moto Having been on Beta since 2014, it's a really solid bike with a few quirks (all brands have some problems) but the one thing that has taken a long time to catch up is aftermarket support. Beta is just starting to get a good bit of it, but Sherco is still way behind them in that department... There is something nice about being able to get parts from multiple sources if your dealer doesn't have what you need on hand. All that being said I would still go for Sherco if I had the chance.
@@PrimalEnduro I hear you on that. Nice being on a Yamaha as parts are really fast/easier to get. In my location the Beta/Sherco dealership are 2hr drive away (4hr round trip) so parts supply tough, and only 1 dealership in the immediate area. KTM/Husky have the draw because of a better relative dealership model.
can we get more camera angles like a split screen so we can see when he uses what control
Great idea!
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