Real filters allow the bloom to be visible even when the light source is out of frame. Whereas the emulation only blooms when the light is in frame. Just another detail to consider 👍🏽
As a DP I completely agree there is no real replacement, but as an editor I have been given footage that needs to match other footage or just something to give it a look.
@@JericTamayo true, i'd rather take the flexibility to add it if needed than being there to ruin certain scenes without the ability to remove it since it's baked in. An "outside the frame" bloom can easily be replicated in Fusion, AE, Premiere, etc.
One of the very FEW videos that actually presents some really useful tips, it's interesting and the free pro mist is an amazing bonus. Thank you so much, subscribed instantly.
I would say that the actual physical properties of fog and haze are even better. What they do is that light sources farther away will be more diffused than light sources close by. The problem with glass diffusion filters is that they make everything glow the same amount regardless of depth. So if you would implement davinci's depth mapping, you could actually approach a more natural fog/haze look rather than emulate the approximation that is a glass filter.
Good ideas. I'll consider taking a deeper dive there. And by the way... The fog and smoque filters are real names for similar optical filters as pro-mist.
Physical filter black pro mist 1/4. For davinci there is a great alternative that saves money on physical filters of all categories - Scatter from Video Village.
This is inaccurate when he states that the glow (halation) is the same amount regardless of depth. The strength of the filter and the type and intensity of the light source will have an affect on the amount of halation in the image.
WOW you are actually a legend. Just subbed, liked this video, commented and watched a bunch of your other videos. You got a new fan! This is an INSANE powergrade thank you so much
I do the same for replacing my Dream FX filter look in photoshop, in case I need the sharp photo and just want an alternate more creative look. It is near identical, but I know that with the highlights, the mist scatters the hot points more and can actually benefit the sensor with a slight bit more of a flat appearance in those whites. That's nice, because I use these for events, but needing to be prepared and not fumbling with filters is the difference between getting an important shot and not. I'm glad I figured out the trick on my own. I had a hunch you were going to blur your way to this look! It really does work so well and is nigh indistinguishable!
In premiere pro, you can do this by creating an adjustment layer, adding a lumetri color, lowering the exposure by a few notches, raising the contrast by 100, the whites by 100, the blacks by -100, adding a gaussian blur to about maybe 100 or so, going up to the blend mode, changing it to screen, and then changing to opacity to your desired strength
Dude you're awesome! This is such a cool and free product! Not sure up close, what is the actually granular difference, but dayum you really did a whole experiment. And it is free. How can i say no :)
I think this is a good tool for folks to have. There is a time and a place where physical filters make the most sense, a time and a place where fog or haze or smoke make the most sense, and a time and a place where a post-process effect like this makes the most sense. I definitely agree that as individuals, owning a complete set of lens filter options is an unreasonably expensive option, but that's what rental houses are for! I mean, very seriously, the idea that individuals would own all the gear they would ever possibly use is pretty new. I've shot a couple projects with some mist filters and every time I was able to rent the two strengths I needed for the given project for a fraction of the cost of purchasing a single filter. Arguably, the only filters a camera owner needs to own and keep in their kit at all times are ND filters (unless their camera has built-in ND).
Thank you, so very much, for making this emulation and sharing it for free. Things like this really make a huge difference in this very expensive field.
After obsessive research comparing glass filter tests I just bought my first diffusion filter -- a Tiffen Pearlescent 1/8th, because out of my top options it was the least expensive when I saw a used 82mm sized one on sale for 50% off... still about $80. I'm pleased to have one real one, but I think before I indulge in buying any more subtle alternatives, I'm going to just try on these emulations. The tight halation of a Soft FX filter, as well as a Hollywood Black Magic filter would be my favorite for many scenes.
Sometimes, the algo shares me good things like your video. I've always had a thing for low light shots, but now I know I dont have to save-to-splurge on a pro mist filter anymore, I can finally experiment! Thank you for this, and thank you for the free download. Going to stalk your other videos now...
The real pro mist seems to have a bit more of a contrast reduction as well as more of the colour transfers over the the lines of the silhouettes than the digital filter.
If I understand correctly, this matches my observations. A long time ago, I tried some simplistic experiments emulating pro mist filters in resolve. Pixel peeping, I saw that a mist filter reduces the contrast across high contrast borders by both blooming the light on the darks side of the border AND reducing brightness along the bright side of the border. As a result, the mist filter preserves some image data on bright side of borders (like backlit subjects) that would otherwise blow out. Without the mist filter, those blown out pixels don't have image data to recover in software, so you can't emulate mist filters perfectly.
This is awesome! I have a lot of backlog footage that I am editing so this will be awgreat to use as an alternative for that since I did no have a pro mist filter at the time
Well, the only problem with this is that it adds to the post production stack of things that have to be done and at the low budget level it really depends how many other things you also have in the stack, particularly if you have to get involved with masking to focus the effect in a different place. At the higher budget levels it’s just another way you can potentially lose control of the look you’re going after because it could be someone else making the decision. For some projects this will be great, but for others not so much.
Thanks for the free download! I use a 1/8 Black Pro Mist most of the time, but it's nice to have a post emulation diffusion effect to add more diffusion if desired. This should be especially useful when switching to wider focal lengths where more diffusion is needed to match the diffusion effect of longer focal lengths.
A very good point and something I had not considered before! I bought two glimmerglass filters earlier this year and I love the look, but I'm definitely going to play around with this and see which one I prefer! Thanks!!
instead of an alternative this could be another thing on its own like if you want a misty look without the large blooming of the lights or get filmic kinda look without the large amount of bloom incase you're in a place where the lights are going wild
My first thought was that I love my pro mist 1/8 to soften blown out sources like the sun, but def downloading your powergrade as well for different focal lengths - perfect! Cheers
really no bullshit channel and giving it away for free is really respectful. Several years ago I bought Dehancer and, as you showed, their halation sucks and messes up the image more often than not. excited to try and compare that one.
Two reasons. 1. Bloom increases the brightness values of the image on the highlights, optical diffusion keeps that the same (lowers is a bit acutally, because it's spreading the light.). 2. The roll off on bloom looks like a gaussian bell curve around the light source. On the optical filters the roll off looks like more like a peak, with a long tail roll off around the light source. I used to use the glow effect instead of these for long time. It's ok, but these look like the real thing.
Some great compelling reasons to choose emulation over the real filters. For me personally, the no.1 the reason I gave up on real filters (I own bpm 1/4 and 1/8) is the back reflections! This is also a matter of preference but I personally cannot stand back reflections!
Glass filters look very different. Maybe you can't tell one from the other (really!?) but I can, and it is more apparent when there are bright specular flares.
Thanks for this great technical video. Something for budding DOPs to think about… Roger Deakins does not use any filtration on his movies. And Messerschmidt added filtration and flares in post in The Killer with Fincher. Sometimes adding filtration onto the lens can limit you and I see people over do it all the time. My view is to use it if it adds to the shot not just because everyone else is doing it.
Wow. This is beoynd pro! Both production itself and the actual content. Very very good! It is not every day, or every week or month for that matter II subscribe to a channel, but this time I was hitting the subscribe button like in the hammering game in Särkänniemi!
In my experience professional DPs use it every single time, specially to control excess definition and smooth skin in close ups. I would not recomend using high grades of mist in exterior day scenes as it tends to look dreamy or old
Some filter emulations are "kind of same", but I tested scatter and I think my method is pretty much the same as theirs. They might add some minor additions to the mix as well. As the optical filters have color casts and they do blur the image just a tad. So maybe scatter is adding those tiny additions too. Or maybe not. If you are considering buying scatter, go for it. It's bit expensive though. :D
From the point of view of the lens and the sensor. A big light far away or a small light near are the same. It's the same amount and similarly orientated fotos hitting it in any case. I can't imagine a reason why the distance by it self would make a difference. Other that further lights have more atmosphere to fly trough, but the diffusion happens in front of the lens, so that doesn't matter.
Thanks for sharing and for giving a freeby! I think there is no better tool, just a palette of tools that will serve you at its time. Maybe I would replace a promise (in the front) by your plug in. But for now, after testing so many diffusers for years, a good Tiffen Black Satin 1/2 is top notch. If you could emulate it, I'll be your first client!! Video Village Scatter might be a good option too. So is using black thin stocks at the back of a lens.
Hey I'm wondering if the mist filter diffuse more regarding the wavelength and the average size of the "particles" on the filter. If so, could be an improvement for the emulation
I am a very amateur "filmmaker" ... I use Osmo Pocket 3 with Black Pro Mist filter and I absolutely love it. Recently I added to my bag a camera with some prime lenses and I was wondering how to make my both cameras footage look similar if I want to combine footage. I think I found a solution because I saw that filters can be as much expensive as the camera itself :) Thank you for sharing your knowledge :)
Love this video. Certainly useful for amateurs without the budget. However, there is no comparison to filters vs emulation in this case. When close is not enough in a professional workflow. A real filter is used.
Excellent comparison. Using filters in post is a better choice to me too since i can always soften, blur and process the video but it is not possible to make this the other way round. Anyway, these filters such as mist and other softening are over-rated mainly due to influencers. Using optical filters made sense in the past but at the age where we can create video from text using AI, ruining our raw video seems a bit outdated. I know many film makers would argue about this claim but old film makers and photographers will remember similar argument in the past regarding using a digital camera and look where we are now at (good luck finding a film and processing it). Progress is always the way, do what you find is best suitable to your workflow and create your films and content according to your artistic taste.
Looks like I’ll be buying all your node based diffusion filter powergrades… I saw that Smoque and Glimmerglass emulation and I was sold. It’s such a pain carrying 5+ filters with me at all times.
Maybe for work, even though in this case it would be easier to justify the cost of the filter, it makes much more sense to use the free alternative. It's one less item in your bag, one less thing that can make the process of shooting slower, and just one more process when editing, having total control over the results. When shooting for yourself, in my case i try to commit to some "limitations" (using just one lens, limiting yourself to a specific topic/color....). Thankfully in this case there are also free alternatives to the extremely expensive Promist filter
Heyy thank you so much for showing an alternative for expansive filters! Could you do a video tutorial for us super begginers? I was unable to apply the emulation because I lack davinci knowladge lol When I dragged the file to the node part, it didn´t show the "Show Compound Node" option
I'm not proficient in light room at all. This one is tricky because this uses scene refered values and I don't think you can do that in lightroom. In Photoshop you could build something like this... But in lightroom... Maybe there is some plugins...
I feel like emulation have better use case for filming in low conditions for example but even in perfect condition because of price one but also because light can be trick by creating a solid or mask just as shown in the video. Real filters don't let you adjust the brightness of your scene keylight or nd do the job but again on the pricey end plus they are cumbersome and require loads of space that digital reproduction present free of charge pun do intended.
Töttöröö ja heipä heiluville! Excellent content again. I would add, that there's 2 parts that I care about in softening filters. First, no suprise, is the softening of the "sharp pixels" and getting haze wihout a fog machine. But the second is the contrast lowering aspect of it. And with relatively cheap cameras I have to use, or with any priced cameras in high contrast situations like outside, the sensor gets a bit more and "compressed" information to record before clipping or disappearing to the noise of the darkness. So that's a not an option in post. Not taking anything away from what is said in the video, just how I feel about using Pro Mist on my lens. Anyway, as said, great video(s)!
Wouldn't you be able to achieve basically the same effect with the "glow" effect in DR? That's also easy to adjust. Or what separates your power grade from the glow effect?
If you like the look... But it doesn't look like promist filter. The roll off is very different and it's adds exposure to highlights, changes color etc. Glow looks like glow and diffusion looks like diffusion.
TIFFEN the optical filters company had come up with Tiffen DFX v4 Digital Filter Suite back in 2015 which was great but it is no longer available. It cost $599 and the suite had pretty much all the Tiffen optical filters in digital LUTs and you could play around and tweak hem.
I wonder if the "LUTs" where actual Look up tables... Of so, then they can't do what these emulations do. I remember reading about those back in the day.
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Real filters allow the bloom to be visible even when the light source is out of frame. Whereas the emulation only blooms when the light is in frame. Just another detail to consider 👍🏽
Good point.
As a DP I completely agree there is no real replacement, but as an editor I have been given footage that needs to match other footage or just something to give it a look.
Professionalism and experience - that's what matters! I believe that both of these approaches can be useful in different circumstances.
Which is for most cases an annoying thing.
@@JericTamayo true, i'd rather take the flexibility to add it if needed than being there to ruin certain scenes without the ability to remove it since it's baked in. An "outside the frame" bloom can easily be replicated in Fusion, AE, Premiere, etc.
That smooth roll off in the emulation is really impressive!thanks for posting this and the free download
One of the very FEW videos that actually presents some really useful tips, it's interesting and the free pro mist is an amazing bonus. Thank you so much, subscribed instantly.
I don't even make video or editing video but the story telling and explanations are so good that I watched everything to the end
What if you are not shooting log at all?
Nothing but QUALITY from this channel. I'm always amazed. I really appreciate you and all your amazing work. So grateful ‼️🙏🏼
agreed
I have been thinking this for years. Glad someone finally did it
Me too. Always thought that these pro mist filter were an unpractical bulshit nonsense.
I would say that the actual physical properties of fog and haze are even better. What they do is that light sources farther away will be more diffused than light sources close by.
The problem with glass diffusion filters is that they make everything glow the same amount regardless of depth.
So if you would implement davinci's depth mapping, you could actually approach a more natural fog/haze look rather than emulate the approximation that is a glass filter.
Good ideas. I'll consider taking a deeper dive there. And by the way... The fog and smoque filters are real names for similar optical filters as pro-mist.
Physical filter black pro mist 1/4. For davinci there is a great alternative that saves money on physical filters of all categories - Scatter from Video Village.
@@human_support Scatter is $500 for a licence. :D OR Get ALL my preset for $35
@@human_support A great alternative but a very expensive one.
This is inaccurate when he states that the glow (halation) is the same amount regardless of depth. The strength of the filter and the type and intensity of the light source will have an affect on the amount of halation in the image.
WOW you are actually a legend. Just subbed, liked this video, commented and watched a bunch of your other videos. You got a new fan! This is an INSANE powergrade thank you so much
I do the same for replacing my Dream FX filter look in photoshop, in case I need the sharp photo and just want an alternate more creative look. It is near identical, but I know that with the highlights, the mist scatters the hot points more and can actually benefit the sensor with a slight bit more of a flat appearance in those whites. That's nice, because I use these for events, but needing to be prepared and not fumbling with filters is the difference between getting an important shot and not. I'm glad I figured out the trick on my own. I had a hunch you were going to blur your way to this look! It really does work so well and is nigh indistinguishable!
In premiere pro, you can do this by creating an adjustment layer, adding a lumetri color, lowering the exposure by a few notches, raising the contrast by 100, the whites by 100, the blacks by -100, adding a gaussian blur to about maybe 100 or so, going up to the blend mode, changing it to screen, and then changing to opacity to your desired strength
And it looks solid too!! But it’s not as good as done in DaVinci
@@RumleKjaer yeah, it also just needs some adjusting to make it look better but it works really well
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Dude you're awesome! This is such a cool and free product! Not sure up close, what is the actually granular difference, but dayum you really did a whole experiment. And it is free. How can i say no :)
I think this is a good tool for folks to have. There is a time and a place where physical filters make the most sense, a time and a place where fog or haze or smoke make the most sense, and a time and a place where a post-process effect like this makes the most sense. I definitely agree that as individuals, owning a complete set of lens filter options is an unreasonably expensive option, but that's what rental houses are for!
I mean, very seriously, the idea that individuals would own all the gear they would ever possibly use is pretty new. I've shot a couple projects with some mist filters and every time I was able to rent the two strengths I needed for the given project for a fraction of the cost of purchasing a single filter. Arguably, the only filters a camera owner needs to own and keep in their kit at all times are ND filters (unless their camera has built-in ND).
Thank you, so very much, for making this emulation and sharing it for free. Things like this really make a huge difference in this very expensive field.
Just discovered this channel and I have to say that it's outstanding. Thank you.
I'm always happy you're still making fabulous content.
Thanks - I purchased your elements pack, looking forward to to playing with it :)
After obsessive research comparing glass filter tests I just bought my first diffusion filter -- a Tiffen Pearlescent 1/8th, because out of my top options it was the least expensive when I saw a used 82mm sized one on sale for 50% off... still about $80.
I'm pleased to have one real one, but I think before I indulge in buying any more subtle alternatives, I'm going to just try on these emulations.
The tight halation of a Soft FX filter, as well as a Hollywood Black Magic filter would be my favorite for many scenes.
If you end up testing how these compare with your filter, do tell me. :D
Love your work, brother! The background music is super chill, too! ^_^ X
Sometimes, the algo shares me good things like your video. I've always had a thing for low light shots, but now I know I dont have to save-to-splurge on a pro mist filter anymore, I can finally experiment! Thank you for this, and thank you for the free download. Going to stalk your other videos now...
Awesome !!! Great video, great power grade. Cheers for making them 🙏
This is amazing. I'm using Scatter and am pretty happy with it but this technique looks as good as the real thing.
The real pro mist seems to have a bit more of a contrast reduction as well as more of the colour transfers over the the lines of the silhouettes than the digital filter.
If I understand correctly, this matches my observations. A long time ago, I tried some simplistic experiments emulating pro mist filters in resolve. Pixel peeping, I saw that a mist filter reduces the contrast across high contrast borders by both blooming the light on the darks side of the border AND reducing brightness along the bright side of the border. As a result, the mist filter preserves some image data on bright side of borders (like backlit subjects) that would otherwise blow out. Without the mist filter, those blown out pixels don't have image data to recover in software, so you can't emulate mist filters perfectly.
This is awesome! I have a lot of backlog footage that I am editing so this will be awgreat to use as an alternative for that since I did no have a pro mist filter at the time
Well, the only problem with this is that it adds to the post production stack of things that have to be done and at the low budget level it really depends how many other things you also have in the stack, particularly if you have to get involved with masking to focus the effect in a different place.
At the higher budget levels it’s just another way you can potentially lose control of the look you’re going after because it could be someone else making the decision.
For some projects this will be great, but for others not so much.
Thanks for the free download! I use a 1/8 Black Pro Mist most of the time, but it's nice to have a post emulation diffusion effect to add more diffusion if desired. This should be especially useful when switching to wider focal lengths where more diffusion is needed to match the diffusion effect of longer focal lengths.
A very good point and something I had not considered before! I bought two glimmerglass filters earlier this year and I love the look, but I'm definitely going to play around with this and see which one I prefer! Thanks!!
instead of an alternative this could be another thing on its own
like if you want a misty look without the large blooming of the lights
or get filmic kinda look without the large amount of bloom incase you're in a place where the lights are going wild
Amazing! I was actually trying to create that effect digitally. The algorithm did its job well, haha!
My first thought was that I love my pro mist 1/8 to soften blown out sources like the sun, but def downloading your powergrade as well for different focal lengths - perfect!
Cheers
That's an intelligent creator there....Good works my friend
Bro what's with the Midsommar fit?
Awesome information as usual, thank you!!! So kind of you sharing this for free!
really no bullshit channel and giving it away for free is really respectful. Several years ago I bought Dehancer and, as you showed, their halation sucks and messes up the image more often than not. excited to try and compare that one.
this tips comming from CGI to use linear gamma is working for color balance accuratly also.
This is so helpful! Great explanations and looks amazing 🙌
You are a Great Man
Thank you for providing this for free :)
thankyou so much if i get a chance i will use it
Can someone explain how this is different from adding a bloom effect?
I have the same question
Two reasons.
1. Bloom increases the brightness values of the image on the highlights, optical diffusion keeps that the same (lowers is a bit acutally, because it's spreading the light.).
2. The roll off on bloom looks like a gaussian bell curve around the light source. On the optical filters the roll off looks like more like a peak, with a long tail roll off around the light source.
I used to use the glow effect instead of these for long time. It's ok, but these look like the real thing.
Some great compelling reasons to choose emulation over the real filters. For me personally, the no.1 the reason I gave up on real filters (I own bpm 1/4 and 1/8) is the back reflections! This is also a matter of preference but I personally cannot stand back reflections!
Thats a good point, I didn't even condsier it, but I have them in the very video above. :D
I also don't like that real filter makes the whole setup slightly bulkier.
incredible and fascinating work as always
Glass filters look very different. Maybe you can't tell one from the other (really!?) but I can, and it is more apparent when there are bright specular flares.
Thanks for this great technical video. Something for budding DOPs to think about… Roger Deakins does not use any filtration on his movies. And Messerschmidt added filtration and flares in post in The Killer with Fincher. Sometimes adding filtration onto the lens can limit you and I see people over do it all the time. My view is to use it if it adds to the shot not just because everyone else is doing it.
Excellent result. Thanks for putting this out. It would be amazing if you had a version for Premiere.
Wow. This is beoynd pro! Both production itself and the actual content. Very very good! It is not every day, or every week or month for that matter II subscribe to a channel, but this time I was hitting the subscribe button like in the hammering game in Särkänniemi!
Tampere rules! Nyt tosin oon Thaimaassa, mutta asun virallisesti Tampereella.
It needs a slight blur adding also
This is great, thank you! I didn't know you need to reduce the strength of the filter if you increase the focal length of the lens, interesting.
Yeah, focal length is like zooming into the image, so things get bigger, the halos as well. So to compensate, decreasing the strength makes sense.
My question is, if we have a promist filter, in what cases do we use it? or do we have it forever in the lens?
In my experience professional DPs use it every single time, specially to control excess definition and smooth skin in close ups. I would not recomend using high grades of mist in exterior day scenes as it tends to look dreamy or old
Wow, used it right now and it looks awesome. Thank you so much.
thanks for the video and plugins!
I would love to know what you think about other emulation software like Scatter!
Some filter emulations are "kind of same", but I tested scatter and I think my method is pretty much the same as theirs. They might add some minor additions to the mix as well. As the optical filters have color casts and they do blur the image just a tad. So maybe scatter is adding those tiny additions too. Or maybe not. If you are considering buying scatter, go for it. It's bit expensive though. :D
Thank you for the idea! I wonder if the distance from the light source affects the appearance of a halo around it?
From the point of view of the lens and the sensor. A big light far away or a small light near are the same. It's the same amount and similarly orientated fotos hitting it in any case. I can't imagine a reason why the distance by it self would make a difference. Other that further lights have more atmosphere to fly trough, but the diffusion happens in front of the lens, so that doesn't matter.
@@JooWorks Thank you for your comprehensive material and answers to my questions!
Would you consider making a version of your filter for Premiere Pro? Thanks!
Is it possible to use it if i already filmed a video in color profile? That is, when I did not record in a log profile?
Thanks for sharing and for giving a freeby!
I think there is no better tool, just a palette of tools that will serve you at its time. Maybe I would replace a promise (in the front) by your plug in. But for now, after testing so many diffusers for years, a good Tiffen Black Satin 1/2 is top notch. If you could emulate it, I'll be your first client!! Video Village Scatter might be a good option too. So is using black thin stocks at the back of a lens.
Hey I'm wondering if the mist filter diffuse more regarding the wavelength and the average size of the "particles" on the filter. If so, could be an improvement for the emulation
Thank You! Looking forward to trying it out.
This one is real gold! Thank you very much, again.
Amazing work, thanks for sharing this knowledge
I am a very amateur "filmmaker" ... I use Osmo Pocket 3 with Black Pro Mist filter and I absolutely love it. Recently I added to my bag a camera with some prime lenses and I was wondering how to make my both cameras footage look similar if I want to combine footage. I think I found a solution because I saw that filters can be as much expensive as the camera itself :) Thank you for sharing your knowledge :)
pls more videos! love the vibes
One point missed is with filters, the effect is baked in, no going back.
That shot of the girl in the hat looks straight out of a 60s Hollywood film. 👌🏼👌🏼
Cost saving, time saving (while filming), flexibilty; i would agree that the free alternative is definitely more worth it 🔥
Time to throw away my mist filters 🤣
This is amazing. Awesome work!
Super insightful! Just earned yourself a new sub 🫡
Love this video.
Certainly useful for amateurs without the budget.
However, there is no comparison to filters vs emulation in this case.
When close is not enough in a professional workflow.
A real filter is used.
Definitely need to give this a shot!
BTW did you make that transition yourself or where did you get it from? I love the look of it.
this is an awesome alternative, i'll try it for sure !
Excellent comparison. Using filters in post is a better choice to me too since i can always soften, blur and process the video but it is not possible to make this the other way round. Anyway, these filters such as mist and other softening are over-rated mainly due to influencers. Using optical filters made sense in the past but at the age where we can create video from text using AI, ruining our raw video seems a bit outdated. I know many film makers would argue about this claim but old film makers and photographers will remember similar argument in the past regarding using a digital camera and look where we are now at (good luck finding a film and processing it). Progress is always the way, do what you find is best suitable to your workflow and create your films and content according to your artistic taste.
Thanks for the free bloom effect. How do you apply to rec 709 footage? Just change acescct to rec 709 in input and output? Colors become weird for me
Awesome video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
did you try to double the effect? Like making 2 times and if it will be hard effect than just decrease the second layer like try 50% or something
It just happens to be so that 1/8 * 2 = 1/4 visually, but 1/2 @50% opacity looks bit different from 1/4 visually.
This is incredible!
Thanks for sharing, looking forward to testing this out 👌
Awesome. Thanks so much for the alternative and files.
Looks like I’ll be buying all your node based diffusion filter powergrades… I saw that Smoque and Glimmerglass emulation and I was sold. It’s such a pain carrying 5+ filters with me at all times.
Maybe for work, even though in this case it would be easier to justify the cost of the filter, it makes much more sense to use the free alternative. It's one less item in your bag, one less thing that can make the process of shooting slower, and just one more process when editing, having total control over the results. When shooting for yourself, in my case i try to commit to some "limitations" (using just one lens, limiting yourself to a specific topic/color....). Thankfully in this case there are also free alternatives to the extremely expensive Promist filter
You are genious my friend. Just amazing
Heyy thank you so much for showing an alternative for expansive filters! Could you do a video tutorial for us super begginers? I was unable to apply the emulation because I lack davinci knowladge lol
When I dragged the file to the node part, it didn´t show the "Show Compound Node" option
Where to put this if I work in Davinci Intermediate gamma ? Before rec2020 to Intermediate or before Intermediate to rec709 ?
Any tips on recreating in lightroom?
I'm not proficient in light room at all. This one is tricky because this uses scene refered values and I don't think you can do that in lightroom. In Photoshop you could build something like this... But in lightroom... Maybe there is some plugins...
I feel like emulation have better use case for filming in low conditions for example but even in perfect condition because of price one but also because light can be trick by creating a solid or mask just as shown in the video. Real filters don't let you adjust the brightness of your scene keylight or nd do the job but again on the pricey end plus they are cumbersome and require loads of space that digital reproduction present free of charge pun do intended.
does this filter work well when shot on an iphone 16 pro in prores video format?
looks too good to be true :D amazing content thank you Joo
I would like to see if you can find a pleasing method to de-tune clinically sharp images through davinci resolve. Thank you!
Never mind just looked on your website and found my answer 😂
@@perrisjames7611 Hehee! If you just want that one preset, send me a message on my webpage and I'll send it to you for free.
Töttöröö ja heipä heiluville! Excellent content again. I would add, that there's 2 parts that I care about in softening filters. First, no suprise, is the softening of the "sharp pixels" and getting haze wihout a fog machine. But the second is the contrast lowering aspect of it. And with relatively cheap cameras I have to use, or with any priced cameras in high contrast situations like outside, the sensor gets a bit more and "compressed" information to record before clipping or disappearing to the noise of the darkness. So that's a not an option in post. Not taking anything away from what is said in the video, just how I feel about using Pro Mist on my lens. Anyway, as said, great video(s)!
That's a good point. Because I do use these all the time to lower the contrast, but if you can't do that anymore in post... Good point.
Would you KINDLY, and PRETTY PLEASE do this for Premiere at some point?? Amazing video and amazing effect!
Wouldn't you be able to achieve basically the same effect with the "glow" effect in DR? That's also easy to adjust. Or what separates your power grade from the glow effect?
If you like the look... But it doesn't look like promist filter. The roll off is very different and it's adds exposure to highlights, changes color etc. Glow looks like glow and diffusion looks like diffusion.
no windows version ?
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Final Cut?
Interesting. Definitely going to try it. Curious how it’s going to works with my anamorphic glass
TIFFEN the optical filters company had come up with Tiffen DFX v4 Digital Filter Suite back in 2015 which was great but it is no longer available. It cost $599 and the suite had pretty much all the Tiffen optical filters in digital LUTs and you could play around and tweak hem.
I wonder if the "LUTs" where actual Look up tables... Of so, then they can't do what these emulations do. I remember reading about those back in the day.
Wow! THANK YO SOOOO MUCH!
Is it possible to do this in Premiere pro or AE?
Amazing, thank you so much!
Amazing video ! Also Could you put the link of the cinematic sound you used in this video ? I want to use it for a violin cover piece