Howdy, Japanese speaker here, saw some incorrect interpretations of the episode, so here's a brief summary of the important parts. Moomin plays a word game with his friends, and the word "guitar" comes up. They all start discussing Snufkin's guitar and wondering why he plays, and the line "The guitar must hold many good memories for Snufkin" is said. Moomin wonders what those are. Moomin goes to Snufkin's tent, and picks up the guitar. Snufkin silently takes it away from him, and Moomin starts saying how everyone had been talking about his guitar, how they'd all thought Snufkin's guitars held important memories for him, and he asks for Snufkin to tell him about them, which he doesn't. Moomin smashes the guitar in jealousy. Likely jealous over friends Snufkin may see when Moomin is hibernating, or just being jealous of possibly not being included in any of those guitar memories. He gets pissed, and eventually makes friends with a rabbit who he finds in his secret hideout/base thing. He starts regularly playing with the rabbit in the secret spot. Eventually everyone tracks him to his hideout, and Moomin gets angry at the intrusion of his secret spot where only he and his rabbit friend play together, and angry at the new plans everyone else has for what was supposed to be HIS secret place that he shared with the rabbit. He suddenly realizes this is how Snufkin felt when Moomin had grabbed his guitar and started asking about the memories he associated it with. Moomin apologizes to Snufkin, saying that he had really wanted to know Snufkin's secrets, but learned that secrets are something for yourself. Snufkin simply replies that he just likes playing the guitar, so Moomin asks him to play.
Thanks, I watched a few parts a couple times and still couldn't understand quite what was going on, aside from moomin getting upset and hiding out in his secret area, this really cleared things up. The auto-generated captions also didn't help much, it gave a few hints what they were talking about but there's too much gibberish.
A reason i genuinely love this snufkin is how calm he is. He isn't enraged at moomin or anything. He may be upset about his guitar, but keeps in mind that moomin is only angry in that moment and will settle down in time, as well as the fact that moomin seems very young, and little ones seem more prone to breakdowns and tantrums. It makes me wish i had a friend like snufkin.....this snufkin was actually the first legit crush i had on snufkin, and i think yall can understand why.
Snufkin's (Nuuskamuikkunen), song in these series is called Osabishiyama no uta. I learned to play that song with my guitar when I performed as Snufkin's dad Joxter :) Also this series doesn't quite meet the original colorful universe of Muumit but should be watched and enjoyed with a grain if salt! If you wish to see how Muumit would look check out Tuulikki Pietilä's handmade models! She was together with Tove Jansson. Greetings from Finland!
author's opinion aside, i see a lot of people on here assuming things about something they cant actually understand lol. my japanese isn't great, but i don't think the whole episode is about "i hate snufkin because he wouldn't let me play the guitar." i think whats happening is its around time for snufkin to go south and moomin doesn't understand why he has to go every year, but he cant really communicate his feelings to snufkin so he lashes out and tries to convince himself snufkin is stupid and he doesn't need him anyways. papa talks about snufkin at dinner and moomin has an epiphany, so he goes back to make amends. (why snufkin is still there when its snowing is a mystery to me lol). I feel like this is a really common trope in Japanese media, maybe less so a Scandinavian one lol
I think this is wrong as well, I think he is mad because Snufkin won`t tell all the secrets and stories the guitar has seen to Moomin. Moomin gets furious and breaks the guitar and later finds a rabbit that becomes his new friend. The places where he is with the rabbit and plays with it is Moomin`s little secret and he gets angry when his other friends discover the place. He then realizes he destroyed Snufkin's special guitar like his friends destroyed his and the rabbit's little secret place and goes to Snufkin where Snufkin says he just likes to play the guitar and Moomin asks him to play for him. Or something like that:)
In 1984 I worked in a burger joint in Accrington. I started work at 5pm, and the Moomins were on at 4.20pm. I loved the theme tune so much I wouldn't leave for work till it had finished.
Just read an article from 70’s describing how Tove Jansson hated this version and didn’t allow it to be broadcasted outside Japan. After seeing this I kinda understand her, but without this we probably wouldn’t have the 90’s version either.
I heard it was actually the 1969 version she didn't like (i assume it's because of the amount of guns lol), so they made a different series, a better one
idk what anyone is saying but i tried to understand it anyways. so he tried to befriend the rabbit to replace snufkin, but when the rabbit joined in with the rest of his friends and everyone forgot about him he remembered how nice it was to have a friend that he could just be with on his own, and wouldnt run off with others and forget him. but snufkin keeping his adventures with his guitar to himself was what made him so mad, and he realized thats actually why he liked having snufkin as his friend. he was very moody in this one lol, i like how they drew the moomins though they are very cute
Seems really out of character for Moomin to break the guitar. It also seems really out of character for Snuffkin to not let him play the guitar, and then giving him the silent treatment.
Apparently what actually happened was moomin wanted to know what memories snufkin has of the guitar because him and the others assumed he had memories of it and that’s why he played guitar but then he wouldn’t tell moomin and moomin got smashed the guitar and later learns about how secrets are personal but stifling apparently says he just likes playing the guitar so he can’t really tell memories he doesn’t have? Anyway apparently moomin was upset because it was getting close to the time when snufkin has to leave and/or was jealous of the presumed friends and memories that he won’t share. They aren’t actually being that rude to each other it’s just a misunderstanding basically. Tho I myself don’t know Japanese this is just what I’ve heard so...
Every human being has his or her own world that he or she does not want to share with anyone. Moomin unintentionally stepped into Snufkin's precious world that he should not have entered. Immediately afterwards, Moomin becomes friends with a rabbit → Later, he understands Snufkin's feelings at that time when his own precious world is trampled upon. Other than that, Moomin's sadness toward Snufkin, who will soon leave, and friendship. It contains many other psychological descriptions, but if you don't understand Japanese, it looks like just a story about a child with a tantrum who goes out of control.
Moomin: plays with Snufkins guitar Snufkin: *takes guitar away* "Well this Snufkin is rather abrasi-" Moomin:*FUCKING SMASHES GUITAR* "... no wonder this Snufkin is harsh"
Меня так злит Мумин здесь.. Пожалуй, это и делает персонажа живым во всех недостатках. Просто я понимаю, насколько это бы меня глубоко задело, если бы кто-то сломал дорогую мне вещь и не могу не испытывать досаду. Ещё очень меня удивляет хладнокровие Снусмумрика в этом плане
At the end Snufkin says “I just like the guitar,” but.. idk.. is it just me or does it feel like it reminds him of Moomin if anything and he didn’t want to say that ALSO WHY DID SNUFKIN TRY TO APOLOGIZE BACK AT THE END THERE WAS NOTHING HE COULD EVEN REMOTELY BE SORRY FOR 💀
@@shibanaji945 Yeah, the person who uploaded this episode put the entire series on RUclips too, just search 1972 Moomin and the first result should be a playlist with every episode
moomin: tell me about ur guitar tell me all ur secrets snufkin: no moomin: OK WELL SCREW UR GUITAR *literally destroys it* snufkin: kk welp time to make a new one not the first time its happened with all of mymbles little gremlins*
No idea what the fuck I'm watching, but I sat through the whole thing. Never heard of this show, don't speak Japanese... Seems neat for a Kid's show what with how this Snufkin guy seems sorta somber and wise like he's seen some shit and looks like he's always on the road.
Howdy, Japanese speaker here, saw some incorrect interpretations of the episode, so here's a brief summary of the important parts. Moomin plays a word game with his friends, and the word "guitar" comes up. They all start discussing Snufkin's guitar and wondering why he plays, and the line "The guitar must hold many good memories for Snufkin" is said. Moomin wonders what those are. Moomin goes to Snufkin's tent, and picks up the guitar. Snufkin silently takes it away from him, and Moomin starts saying how everyone had been talking about his guitar, how they'd all thought Snufkin's guitars held important memories for him, and he asks for Snufkin to tell him about them, which he doesn't. Moomin smashes the guitar in jealousy. Likely jealous over friends Snufkin may see when Moomin is hibernating, or just being jealous of possibly not being included in any of those guitar memories.
He gets pissed, and eventually makes friends with a rabbit who he finds in his secret hideout/base thing. He starts regularly playing with the rabbit in the secret spot. Eventually everyone tracks him to his hideout, and Moomin gets angry at the intrusion of his secret spot where only he and his rabbit friend play together, and angry at the new plans everyone else has for what was supposed to be HIS secret place that he shared with the rabbit. He suddenly realizes this is how Snufkin felt when Moomin had grabbed his guitar and started asking about the memories he associated it with. Moomin apologizes to Snufkin, saying that he had really wanted to know Snufkin's secrets, but learned that secrets are something for yourself. Snufkin simply replies that he just likes playing the guitar, so Moomin asks him to play.
Thanks, I watched a few parts a couple times and still couldn't understand quite what was going on, aside from moomin getting upset and hiding out in his secret area, this really cleared things up.
The auto-generated captions also didn't help much, it gave a few hints what they were talking about but there's too much gibberish.
Holy shit thank you 🙏
Hmmm the plot sounds gayer for me and I like it.
Thank you for the info. :)
thanks. this really clears things up. :)
A reason i genuinely love this snufkin is how calm he is. He isn't enraged at moomin or anything. He may be upset about his guitar, but keeps in mind that moomin is only angry in that moment and will settle down in time, as well as the fact that moomin seems very young, and little ones seem more prone to breakdowns and tantrums. It makes me wish i had a friend like snufkin.....this snufkin was actually the first legit crush i had on snufkin, and i think yall can understand why.
👍
Because Moomin was a turd in this episode, Snufkin started to play the harmonica instead in the later series
AHSHDDJDIDHS
damn moomin
His boyfriend Moomin plays it so he wanted to learn it too
Schuhgrhgffyjfdf ye s
Exactly
日本語が分かるのがこんなに良かったと思うことない
何処で勉強しましたか？
@@jishaku38国語辞典
this seems like an angsty au compared to the 90s series lmao
strawberrie'd _honestly lmfao_
Nice dingus kongus icon
@@illegalyoutubechannel5251 thank u
70s Moomin is actually just an adaptation of a fanfic somebody wrote ages ago
@@djkfork wait rlly?
再放送も出来ず、二度と公に見れなくなったの、哀し過ぎる。
誰か何とかして。
ここで見れたの奇跡。
有難うございます。
こんな動画が永く残って欲しい。
スナフキンの弾くギターの音色を実に数十年ぶりに聞き感無量です。半世紀などあっという間に過ぎましたよ。
i love the power-up noise moomin makes when he runs
Haha same
Though it's literally every single time he runs--
This Snufkin be scaring the crows away
Good thing you ran away so quickly.......or you would've felt the true power of the pimp hand.
Straight up
you dont mess with Snufkin, and you *especially* dont mess with his things
ムーミンはスナフキンとは理想の親友で、だから自分のすることには何でも肯定的だし、疑問に思ったことには何でも答えてくれると思い込んでいたのでしょう。 しかしスナフキンは礼儀もなく勝手にテントに入ってきて荒らしてくるムーミンに、無言の抗議を行った。
ムーミンは理想のスナフキンが幻想だったと思い知り、本当の親友など居なかったんだとショックを受けたんでしょう。 彼のギターを壊して夜に泣いていたのはそういう理由。
お父さんから、スナフキンはお別れの季節だから、孤独だろうと聞いて、心配になったムーミンは謝って和解したくなったが、どうしてあのときのスナフキンが冷たかったは理解していなかったために、何をどう謝ったらいいか分からなくて、逃げ出した。
その後ムーミンは秘密の友達を見つけて可愛がって自分の寂しさを紛らわしていたら、図々しい友人たちが秘密基地にやってきて、ウサギと友達になったりプライベートを荒らして来たことに苛立ったときに、スナフキンの立場を理解して、自分の図々しさに気づいたのでしょう。
Snufkin's (Nuuskamuikkunen), song in these series is called Osabishiyama no uta. I learned to play that song with my guitar when I performed as Snufkin's dad Joxter :) Also this series doesn't quite meet the original colorful universe of Muumit but should be watched and enjoyed with a grain if salt! If you wish to see how Muumit would look check out Tuulikki Pietilä's handmade models! She was together with Tove Jansson. Greetings from Finland!
Please don't be offended, but your language is baffling to me. It seems alien. It's like opening a high fantasy novel halfway through.
I love this snufkin his voice soothes me
author's opinion aside, i see a lot of people on here assuming things about something they cant actually understand lol. my japanese isn't great, but i don't think the whole episode is about "i hate snufkin because he wouldn't let me play the guitar."
i think whats happening is its around time for snufkin to go south and moomin doesn't understand why he has to go every year, but he cant really communicate his feelings to snufkin so he lashes out and tries to convince himself snufkin is stupid and he doesn't need him anyways. papa talks about snufkin at dinner and moomin has an epiphany, so he goes back to make amends. (why snufkin is still there when its snowing is a mystery to me lol).
I feel like this is a really common trope in Japanese media, maybe less so a Scandinavian one lol
I think this is wrong as well, I think he is mad because Snufkin won`t tell all the secrets and stories the guitar has seen to Moomin. Moomin gets furious and breaks the guitar and later finds a rabbit that becomes his new friend. The places where he is with the rabbit and plays with it is Moomin`s little secret and he gets angry when his other friends discover the place. He then realizes he destroyed Snufkin's special guitar like his friends destroyed his and the rabbit's little secret place and goes to Snufkin where Snufkin says he just likes to play the guitar and Moomin asks him to play for him.
Or something like that:)
In 1984 I worked in a burger joint in Accrington. I started work at 5pm, and the Moomins were on at 4.20pm. I loved the theme tune so much I wouldn't leave for work till it had finished.
自分の秘密は自分だけのもの、それに気がついたムーミン。
内向的なかまってちゃんが徐々に大人に成長した「密度の濃い1話」
Just read an article from 70’s describing how Tove Jansson hated this version and didn’t allow it to be broadcasted outside Japan. After seeing this I kinda understand her, but without this we probably wouldn’t have the 90’s version either.
huh, thats interesting. i actually like this portrayal of moomin and snufkin more than the 90's version. do you mind sharing which article it was?
I heard it was actually the 1969 version she didn't like (i assume it's because of the amount of guns lol), so they made a different series, a better one
@@emmakeri973
1969 Moomin was so wild and definitely something else 😂
idk what anyone is saying but i tried to understand it anyways. so he tried to befriend the rabbit to replace snufkin, but when the rabbit joined in with the rest of his friends and everyone forgot about him he remembered how nice it was to have a friend that he could just be with on his own, and wouldnt run off with others and forget him. but snufkin keeping his adventures with his guitar to himself was what made him so mad, and he realized thats actually why he liked having snufkin as his friend. he was very moody in this one lol, i like how they drew the moomins though they are very cute
So, it's not about Moomin and Snufkin getting into an arguement and broke up?
もう二度見れないと思ってたので、嬉しいです。
やっぱりスナフキンはカッコいいです😊
watching this snufkin made me realize how baby 90's and 2019's snufkins are
ホント、よくできたアニメだよ。
ありがとうございます。この51話は長崎では見ることができなかったのです。約５０年後に見ることができました。
新スナさんはスタイル抜群だな……。
5:19 *_p i n k h a i r ?_*
_70's_
This is an anime, of course she has pink hair
She Looks like unico
こういういいアニメが今は無い…
当時の教育はこういうアニメに多くあった。こんな言葉にならない気持ちを心情描写で伝えるのって、現代の作品でどれほどできるだろう。
21:40 身をもって学んだから自然に実行できたムーミン。この何でもない一場面が格段にストーリーの質をあげてる。
Seems really out of character for Moomin to break the guitar.
It also seems really out of character for Snuffkin to not let him play the guitar, and then giving him the silent treatment.
For the 1990s version maybe. But I think it’s pretty much in character for this series of the Moomins
Wasn't there some translations and versions of the show where snufkin was really rude?
emeraldquartz snufkin’s pretty nasty to people he doesn’t like, think of teetee-woo for example
@@jeanetteking4887 yeahh true
Apparently what actually happened was moomin wanted to know what memories snufkin has of the guitar because him and the others assumed he had memories of it and that’s why he played guitar but then he wouldn’t tell moomin and moomin got smashed the guitar and later learns about how secrets are personal but stifling apparently says he just likes playing the guitar so he can’t really tell memories he doesn’t have? Anyway apparently moomin was upset because it was getting close to the time when snufkin has to leave and/or was jealous of the presumed friends and memories that he won’t share. They aren’t actually being that rude to each other it’s just a misunderstanding basically.
Tho I myself don’t know Japanese this is just what I’ve heard so...
いやでもスナフキンメンヘラ製造機なのめっちゃわかる。こっちが嫌い！って言っても、そうですかって顔して平気そうなところとかw
追いかける男ではないよね。沼らせて責任を取らない男だ。そんな彼が好きだ…
This is interesting serie and very different than 1991 year Moomin :)
17:08
ギターを修理するスナフキンは初めて見たかも、、
（そもそも昔のムーミンを見た事なかったから、なんか新鮮、、、）
dude the 1972 moomin anime was INTENSE holy shit
but like... wtf is going on
Moomintroll breaks Snufkin's guitar.
9:58 I felt that when Snufkin did
“👁👄👁”
IMPISSINGNOOO
Every human being has his or her own world that he or she does not want to share with anyone. Moomin unintentionally stepped into Snufkin's precious world that he should not have entered. Immediately afterwards, Moomin becomes friends with a rabbit → Later, he understands Snufkin's feelings at that time when his own precious world is trampled upon. Other than that, Moomin's sadness toward Snufkin, who will soon leave, and friendship. It contains many other psychological descriptions, but if you don't understand Japanese, it looks like just a story about a child with a tantrum who goes out of control.
これが私の好きなムーミンかな
懐かしい
ムーミンのアニメほぼ全部観た気でいたけど、こんな古いバージョンあるなんて知らなかった。声優も違ってこっちはこっちで味があって良いね。
本家本元だ
ムーミンと同じくトムとジェリーも古いのがあるんだよ
Actualky, this is closer to the books than the 90s version
Moomin: plays with Snufkins guitar
Snufkin: *takes guitar away*
"Well this Snufkin is rather abrasi-"
Moomin:*FUCKING SMASHES GUITAR*
"... no wonder this Snufkin is harsh"
love the song at the beginning!
子供の頃に観てたやつ、岸田今日子さんのムーミン
スナフキンのあの曲がもう一度聴けるなんて！
でも久しぶりに見たらなんか暗い感じのアニメだったのね。
もっと楽しい感じかと思ってた。
作者が激怒してたから来日した時に放送を見せないようにしたとか、ソフト化できなかったという噂があったけど、本当なのかしら
Snufkin is patient as fuck
スナフキン大好き
ムーミンと言えば､故・岸田今日子さん
ムーミンて意外と面倒くさい坊やだったんだな。
めんどくさいどころの騒ぎじゃない……
なんで壊すねんＷＷＷＷＷ
Haha, obviously no one cares about these episodes being up, but the much more popular 1990 series gets struck down, especially the english dubs
everyone loves Snufkin
I am 17 yers old to play the guitar . I bougth a guitar when I was 16 . My dream came tru I alway wated to learn to play the guitar .
Wished this was subbed I wanna know what they are saying ;-;
Me too ;_:
I Agree.
snufkin’s guitar: *exists*
Moomin: *bouta end his whole career*
Dang snufkin is alot taller in this than what I'm used to seeing
心地好いテンポだなぁ…
I don't understand anything but it's freaking adorable
I really love the riff he plays on the guitar does anyone know if it's from a song I can look up?
SHERWOOD search "snufkin guitar" in japanese, vid made by Master Yori
Sherwood It’s お寂し山の歌(Osabishiyama no uta i think? someone else in the comments section said it was calle that but i’m not sure)
Меня так злит Мумин здесь.. Пожалуй, это и делает персонажа живым во всех недостатках. Просто я понимаю, насколько это бы меня глубоко задело, если бы кто-то сломал дорогую мне вещь и не могу не испытывать досаду. Ещё очень меня удивляет хладнокровие Снусмумрика в этом плане
At 1:25 Moomin does not give a damn about his dad fell down stairs God the Japanese version just made them so hateful to each other :(
19:27-21:52 The best scene, in my opinion.
雪がフィンランドも雪がきれいでえすね頑張れ✊ムーミン
At the end Snufkin says “I just like the guitar,” but.. idk.. is it just me or does it feel like it reminds him of Moomin if anything and he didn’t want to say that
ALSO WHY DID SNUFKIN TRY TO APOLOGIZE BACK AT THE END THERE WAS NOTHING HE COULD EVEN REMOTELY BE SORRY FOR 💀
Hey, do you know where I could watch this series?
@@shibanaji945 Yeah, the person who uploaded this episode put the entire series on RUclips too, just search 1972 Moomin and the first result should be a playlist with every episode
@@thecallumvibes Bro I'm so stupid- I didn't realize that this was one of the episodes! Thank you!
切ない
Oh Jesus, never seen any episodes of this version, and I don’t speak Japanese, but holy frik Moomin why smash the guitar so harshly why omg
is it available anywhere with English subtitles ?
音出したら魚寄りつかないのでは ムーミン勝手だなぁ 勝手にテントに入って物色して無視されたら逆ギレ
9:57 VOI HIIVATTI
What are you doing here
I really wasn't expecting you here 😁😁
高校時代に見た再放送が結局最後の再放送になりました。まさか、その後二度と見れなくなるなんて。ちなみに、「楽しいムーミン一家」はほとんど見ませんでしたね。なんか、いろいろ違って、、。
moomin: tell me about ur guitar tell me all ur secrets
snufkin: no
moomin: OK WELL SCREW UR GUITAR *literally destroys it*
snufkin: kk welp time to make a new one not the first time its happened with all of mymbles little gremlins*
Did they break up
When your bae isn’t paying attention to you😭
ムーミンいかれてるやん
「ＤＶＤ」再発売
希望。
日本人にとっては、こっちのムーミンのほうが、いい。
Jesus freaking Christ
It's so angsty what-
ムーミン情緒どうした
Oh man gawd 1970 is g o l d e n m o o m i n a g e
Yeah, he definitely didn’t break it because snufkin wouldn’t let him play, he’s just jealous.
Moomin:Snufkin listen to Me!!!!
snufkin dies
spoiler
i mean in infinity war
wait lemme do it again
snufkin dies in infinity warzzz
@@bekyll Fuck dude, why'd you spoil it?!?!
Hey finnish people. This is not the same german show we have watched. This is was only shown in Japan.
This show was forbidden in other countrys, right?
RieskaFIN what do u mean German? The popular muumi in Finland was animated in Japan
What did Moomin say at the end?
21:40 He said, "When are you going to go to the southern country?"
*HEY DIO*
hello🖐️
最終回の一歩前の話の内容がこれってなんか意図あっての事なのかといつも思ってしまう。
Is it in English
Or subtitle
16:58 ビデオの作者は私にこの曲へのリンクを与えることができますか🙏😍😍
The house isn’t OSHA compliant that’s why Papa fell
I wish I could speak Japanese.
Person: So what do you do in your free time?
9:58 😑 OW My heart!
Hi, Do you know where I could watch this series?
???
意外に過激なムーミン村。
悪魔が取り憑いてるからって...
超オカルトじゃん？
(笑)(笑)
ムーミン、超短気で情緒不安定やな。笑
めっちゃわがまま
Moomin is a hippo after all🫢
オリジナルのムーミンBlu-rayDVDなって欲しいな
Holy sh- this is...........you know what nevermind
Tämä on väärin
Wait am I the only one who doesn’t know what they’re saying? Whelp time to read the comments and guess what is happening in the video
Why no engrish :P
Bigi This version is only in japanese because Tove Jansson never approved this Moomins's version
Actually, it was the 1962 version she disapproved of. This one was to try and make up for the 1962 one by being more accurate to the books.
No idea what the fuck I'm watching, but I sat through the whole thing. Never heard of this show, don't speak Japanese... Seems neat for a Kid's show what with how this Snufkin guy seems sorta somber and wise like he's seen some shit and looks like he's always on the road.
i hope youve decided to check out the franchise since then theres lot more of that where it came from