Would You Use Any of This "Old School" Tech on YOUR Reef Tank?!

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @ReefDork
    @ReefDork Год назад +23

    There's a 2 part dosing product in the UK called Reef Zlements pH Plus that seems to have sodium hydroxide in it. I can't tell you if it's actually sodium hydroxide (I have asked), but it's something that significantly increases pH.

    • @so_so_reef
      @so_so_reef Год назад +4

      It does - I found a MSDS sheet from them when googling that says it contains this. As a tangent, I wonder how they get away with selling such a potentially dangerous chemical without having to say what it is on the bottle! Used for a while and love it, 8.3-8.5 all the time.

    • @so_so_reef
      @so_so_reef Год назад

      Contains 15% sodium hydroxide pa.supply/media/pdf/64/1e/21/SD-Z-pHplus-Part-1BjY3q46z10epC.pdf

    • @6jdhd
      @6jdhd Год назад

      ​@so_so_reef hydroxide is used in alot of reefing products. When diluted for reefing. It's not dangerous. The only one that is dangerous no matter how you much dilute it is potassium hydroxide. This can melt flesh.

  • @tidalgardens
    @tidalgardens Год назад +9

    I am still considering those light rails in my greenhouse!

  • @Eric_Allen
    @Eric_Allen Год назад

    before i clicked on this, i thought "there's no way i'm going to listen to 52 minutes of this, maybe i'll just listen to a few minutes to see what they are saying". Here i am an hour later wishing it wasn't over. seriously great conversation guys! I love the content!

  • @garyjenson1326
    @garyjenson1326 Год назад

    I tore my 180 down a year ago when I moved. I dosed kalk in my auto top off but I still had to supplement alk (mixed reef). I dosed a mix of baking soda and washing soda. When I sold my stock to forest lake pets they were blown away by my corals. I used the brs calculator, thanks guys.

  • @ReefDudes
    @ReefDudes Год назад +4

    Ozone is magical for clarity :)
    for H202 in my experience I consider 1ml/10g to be the safe dose

  • @nathan-d8
    @nathan-d8 Год назад

    I'm setting up a new tank right now. It's been almost 20 years since i had my tank. I havent fallen out of the hobby. Ive been following along this whole time. I will definitely be using kalkwazer

  • @JCSREEF
    @JCSREEF Год назад +1

    I live in Belfast Northern Ireland Thanks to BRS Reefdudes Tidal Gardens WWC AAC and many others i love KALKWASSSER

  • @klowranc
    @klowranc Год назад +1

    The claim ozone eliminates odor. I experience the opposite! Makes the tank smell like skimmate (even when the skimmer is clean). Am i doing something wrong? Do I need to run it more? Ozone breaks down organics so it makes sense it would smell like waste..
    Thanks for all the great content! Love watching both of your channels 🍻

  • @janinesnyder8250
    @janinesnyder8250 Год назад

    So compelling. That sounds so interesting about light ducting.

  • @Fish_Ventura
    @Fish_Ventura Год назад +1

    Great talk guys, thank you!

  • @1GolfJones
    @1GolfJones Год назад +2

    I'm so happy Tropic Marin made their All for Reef into a more affordable powder mix. Its safe, extremely effective, and affordable if you don’t have a big system.

    • @saf1671
      @saf1671 Год назад

      System size doesn't matter - just ones budget. powder though - huge deal.

  • @Merknilash
    @Merknilash Год назад +2

    I’m such a fan of Than the man
    I only shop from Tidal Gardens online
    I mean that’s a lie I’ve gone elsewhere for stuff they don’t have but I prefer TG!

  • @raywells2858
    @raywells2858 Год назад

    My best tanks have all had two things in common...they used Metal Halides with 12-14k bulbs and I dripped Kalk for all make up water. If Metal Halides were more available I would ditch my Kessils and go back to Halides.

  • @davidhackett6298
    @davidhackett6298 Год назад

    Any problem running the versa pump with kalkwasser in a brute container dosing it are hoses ok

  • @flyinbryan7151
    @flyinbryan7151 Год назад

    Every one of my tanks runs kalk. Best stuff.

  • @bobbybenedict1027
    @bobbybenedict1027 Год назад

    Brightwell makes Boost pH+ which is hydroxide based and works great!

  • @janinesnyder8250
    @janinesnyder8250 Год назад

    @22:55 😂that’s exactly what I was thinking 😂

  • @ccopeland45
    @ccopeland45 Год назад +2

    I have been using sodium hydroxide for several years. It gives you the ability to control to a specific pH. I don't think it's as hazardous as many people think. Just be aware of what you are doing.

  • @spittys_reef1343
    @spittys_reef1343 Год назад

    Just started using Kalkwasser on my 60 gallon system about 3 months ago. Never going back!

    • @D.hodge87
      @D.hodge87 Год назад

      Use all for reef instead and it’ll do the same as kalk and it takes care of everything else.

    • @Coldfire1322
      @Coldfire1322 Год назад +1

      All for reef will not raise your Ph though.

  • @coviello1502
    @coviello1502 5 месяцев назад

    On the metal halide topic, what if we were to shoot leds straight up into a specialized reflector in order to get the same coverage and angles of light that we see with halides and t5s?

  • @garyjenson1326
    @garyjenson1326 Год назад

    I had trouble with smooth maricultured acros and peroxide. Other than that it was magic. I also used Baer and iodine. Multi-spectrum antibiotics for nems.i sold literally hundreds of bubbletips.

  • @megacleancab256
    @megacleancab256 Год назад +1

    Ok you need to do a video on kalkwasser for newbs

  • @Edgecrusher28
    @Edgecrusher28 Год назад

    Biomics testing before and after Ozone use would be a very telling piece to shed light on the potential issues of sterilizing the tank or perhaps put that rumor to rest!

  • @TheYear2525
    @TheYear2525 10 месяцев назад

    Kalkwasser is very cool but you need a metric ton of it because the solubility of calcium hydroxide is so low. That's the only reason I don't use it. But I'm constantly re-evaluating the situation xD.
    There are UVC LEDs but they are for professional use and they are indeed stupendously expensive and very rarely to be found on the consumer market.

  • @hunterallen7335
    @hunterallen7335 Год назад +1

    Been using the sodium hydroxide 2-part + kalkwasser (each in about 50% of the alkalinity). Super good. But also pretty dangerous... It's amazing how hot it gets when mixing. It is super basic, at ~14 pH. I've also heard of lower quality dosers actually melting from the high pH solition 😅. If you give it a go, be careful! It is REALLY good, though.

  • @danceswithpaperhands6221
    @danceswithpaperhands6221 Год назад

    So fast forward 20 years and i think VHO and Kalk did a better job for my coralline algae for sure.

  • @jamesbryan1285
    @jamesbryan1285 Год назад

    Kalkwasser is the way to go for me.

  • @TheHemiphil81
    @TheHemiphil81 Год назад

    If I had to choose between a kalkwaser or calcium reactor, which is the better choice????

    • @TheHemiphil81
      @TheHemiphil81 Год назад +1

      @jdamommio thank you for your reply. You helped me tremendously. 👍

  • @Bayareasvc
    @Bayareasvc 11 месяцев назад

    Perhaps the inefficiency of the energy in the form of heat being radiated off of the metal halides was the reason for their success. The sun radiates heat naturally and for corals like acros live in shallow water. Perhaps this might be the missing benefit halides have over LED’s for photosynthesis energy.

  • @Trickmanii
    @Trickmanii Год назад

    I use it...just need a nice Kalk Reactor.

  • @balter5247
    @balter5247 Год назад +1

    Ok just finished the UV section. Couple of talking points.
    1. It sounded like BRS and Than both said UV is good if you have the budget. Please detail the downsides if any. It feels like you eluded to some downsides and didn't really flesh that out.
    2. You talked about the brs160 but in this video didn't say whether or not it's actually running UV. Sorry, I am sure you have talked about the 160 enough times but does it run UV?
    3. I am an electrician, I also worked at as a rep for a lighting company for 5 years, and I want to let you know that the limitations of UV from LED lights is not even close to being solved. The problem is $$$. It will probably come eventually but it needs to be profitable and for the most part it isn't. IF it happens any time soon expect to pay hugeeeee amounts for it. There's no other way.
    Also throughout this whole discussion I'm looking at the 160 and I love it. That's my goal ❤

  • @janinesnyder8250
    @janinesnyder8250 Год назад

    @11:07 tiered kalk. Kalk that’s only for scientists 😂

  • @gritter781
    @gritter781 Год назад

    The only reason halides are going away is because BRS constantly tells us that LED is better. Go look at all of the TOTM systems on reefcentral from back before LED was even an option. Then you tell me which grows coral better. Honestly, it isn't even debatebale. For sps dominant systems specifically, LED still doesn't have the horsepower to compete with lighting systems from 20 years ago. LED will make acros look good, though.

  • @elchappo1320
    @elchappo1320 Год назад

    Thein might as well move to Minnesota!😊

  • @Fish_Ventura
    @Fish_Ventura Год назад

    Yeah UV rules, got a huge pentair and love it.

  • @RobBoryckiGolf
    @RobBoryckiGolf Год назад

    Great videos

  • @Cordelish
    @Cordelish Год назад

    I just set up my 120g. I have a UV. I will learn Ozone. What are the utilitarian fish/inverts I need. I volunteer to be your test subject.

  • @drewlong77
    @drewlong77 Год назад

    On Halide:
    I've heard that halides uv gets to the coral because the bulb is quartz.
    Glass and other surfaces can block uv. How much truth?

  • @UnfilteredJustice
    @UnfilteredJustice Год назад +1

    UV is great. I have 2 return pumps and a UV on both (2x 25 watt). Better for all your water to go through the UV. I use smaller high output units that are much cheaper than those giant, overpriced, units. Philips replacement bulbs. Your bacteria is in rock and sand. That's not a problem.

    • @dans3344
      @dans3344 Год назад

      What units are you using?

    • @UnfilteredJustice
      @UnfilteredJustice Год назад

      @@dans3344 I use the TMC V2 Vecton 600 25 watt. Though I think it's been replaced by the Vecton 850 25 watt. I've only found 1 retailer in the US that sells them online. Mostly sold in Europe.

    • @dans3344
      @dans3344 Год назад +1

      @@UnfilteredJustice thank you for the reply.

  • @gregdepot
    @gregdepot Год назад

    Mimic tang would have ich on a cycle, replaced UV bulb and it hasnt shown ich sense.
    Have a Emperor/Pentair 25w I run at 100-110 GPH. On my 180g so I can be a little underrated but if you can get a full turn over in 2 hours of less it certainly helps. Yes if buying now id get the 40w but whomever says the 25w wont work up to 200g its simply not true it just may not be as effective.

  • @KingQuetzal
    @KingQuetzal Год назад

    Can you run ozone with carbon? Is there any weird reactions or conflicts with typical treatments not mentioned in the video? GFO... etc

  • @megacleancab256
    @megacleancab256 Год назад

    How about 2 ai blades with primes for centers

  • @dannymcelroy
    @dannymcelroy 3 месяца назад

    "It's the pH" Yep, when I maintain a pH above 8 as the over night low, I never lose corals... low pH equals corals that struggle

  • @janinesnyder8250
    @janinesnyder8250 Год назад

    @32:51, magically removed all the irritants.

  • @drewlong77
    @drewlong77 Год назад

    THANDY..!..
    The Dynamic Duo Does It Again!
    Entertaining, Enjoyable & Informative Content.

  • @jamesbryan1285
    @jamesbryan1285 Год назад

    I still have two Build My LEDs. Ten years old and going strong. They were built like a tank. Still growing coral today.

    • @Eric_Allen
      @Eric_Allen Год назад

      The entire thing was basically one massive heatsink right? I think i remember when these came out, but LED's weren't really "proven" yet. And the diodes weren't as strong as they are today. I think "cree LED" was kinda the gold standard for the 3W high output diodes and then LEDs really took off. My first LED light was from Reef Breeders (back when they were still relatively unknown, affordable, wholesale option directly imported from China) and they were fantastic. I'm currently using RedSea LED and i really miss the red/pink colors

  • @mattewdmueller
    @mattewdmueller Год назад

    Give me a 1000W Metal Halide light set up with a 50W power bill and I would be sold. The "quality" of light out of a MH light is different from the LED. I'm not sure what it was, and I'm not an engineer or a scientist, but they just look better in my opinion.

  • @balter5247
    @balter5247 Год назад

    If you actually are set on getting MH gear for your reef tank, also get the ballasts, capacitor and ignitors to match. Its stupidly expensive but the bulbs alone won't do you any good.

  • @davidleach4689
    @davidleach4689 Год назад +2

    LEDs do not produce uv light halides produce a lot and guess what so does the sun you don’t get better than how nature does it and the closer you get to that the better.

  • @reptiles900
    @reptiles900 Год назад

    OSHA guidelines, wink
    Haha I love it

  • @OneMoreTank
    @OneMoreTank Год назад +4

    "cheap peristaltic pumps" "ecotech" lol

  • @janinesnyder8250
    @janinesnyder8250 Год назад

    I love the look of ozone.

  • @doghousereefer
    @doghousereefer Год назад

    Not all sodium/potassium hydroxides are diy, “aqua vitro balance”, works great, and it’s the perfect ratio not to raise your potassium

  • @thomascomber3241
    @thomascomber3241 Год назад +1

    I would never recommend sodium hydroxide! I work in a brewery, it's what we use in a healthy concentration to clean our systems. It is DANGEROUS! It's not safe for someone to use at home.

    • @OneMoreTank
      @OneMoreTank Год назад +2

      Been using it for a couple years now, it's really not that scary. Just use it responsibly and store in a sealed container out of reach of children. It's no different than having a bottle of drain cleaner at home.

    • @TrevorHiller
      @TrevorHiller Год назад +2

      Same handling precaution recommendations as many household chemicals, wearing gloves, goggles and your brain mitigates most of the risk. I do recommend people reference plastic container and tubing compatibility as the higher pH is rough on storage containers. HDPE buckets and PE tubing is safe to use with it.

  • @andibandi1190
    @andibandi1190 Год назад

    In nordic countries heat from metal halide sources might be less inconvenient🤡

  • @82thegonz
    @82thegonz Год назад

    The "climate science" doesnt take into account, volcanoes. Theyve been erupting more than normal underwater, but arent added to any of the climate models. Why?

  • @jeremy87turbo87
    @jeremy87turbo87 Год назад +1

    Guys, I am a grower look up spider farmer. Light timer, you can control your lights by a digital timer. Turning it down percentages. However many times you would like...... And I am going to be trying a Mars. Hydro 400 W LED grow light. Set up on a reef tank to see how it works with the spider farmer. Digital light percentage it's controller to be able to control the percent of light being emitted so I can simulate A full day cycle... Like I do with my plants.