As the man says,you won't be disappointed with these cutters. I recently ordered a set and have tried them out on steel,dural and plastics. They are the real McCoys.
I just got a set recently, they were so cheap and so sharp. I love them. I bought a spare set. The first ones are still perfect. Under $60 AUD delivered.👍👌🇦🇺
These cutters work as well as any brand that I have used, and at 1/4 the price, I am extremely happy. Also the service was excellent. (I am comparing with Australian prices)
impressive for what they cost, I think they saved money on a simple grind profile, I see the leading edge pushes a long chip in every cut, but that isn't a problem.
In fact that's my question as well. I don't know why on the selling page of this product on Banggood it has not mentioned aluminum. This makes me doubt little bit about whether it can be used for aluminum or not. Although based on things that I have read in some sources, the ones that have aluminum in their coating (likeTAlN) cannot be used for aluminum, and this one doesn't seems to have any aluminum in it.
recomendet cutting speed for Hss in steel is 20 m/ min what equals to a 8 mm endmill in 1000 rpm. Cutting speed for carbide in mild steel is 200 m/min what would be 10000 for a 8 mm or about 5000 for a 16 mm. A 12mm should be somewhere in between but way up over 1500 ... Also use this endmills and have nothing to complain.
Dear Tompas11, Thank you for the good reviews! They are very useful to me. In the video 2:04 there is a mistake for me, please help me, if you could. I bought the same endmill set like you bought. Literally the same. I weighed the 10mm end mill bit with a kitchen scale, and then a 0.01g scale. The 10mm bit's weight is: 63.38g. You weighed the same bit more than 70 gramms. Or your scale is bad, or I don't understand. My measurement is surely accurate (two scales gave the same results). Zsolt
Hi Zsolt Nagy, well I don't have any other scale than the one in the video so I cannot make a comparison between different scales. Sorry about that. The reason why I made this comparison was to show the difference in weight between carbide and high speed end mills. Maybe there are carbide and there are carbide if you know what I mean, (different quality) or that my analog scale does not show so accurately as yours. Thanks for watching and comment.
HI @@tompas11A3n52KkX Thank you for the answer and the video again. Well, then your scale has the measuring problem, because the mill you have, the same as the mine, surely. On banggood, and ebay, etc, is available digital scales 0.1g accuracy about 5-10 dollars, I reccomend them to You. Nice gadgets. Your videos are very useful!
@@tompas11A3n52KkX i had milled mild steel I beam with 12mm (wood router bit ) with my cnc router before (12000 rpm ) at low feed (20mm / s ) and depth (0.1 mm ) it cut nicely and now damage at all even without cooling .....that is why i asking about this milling tool ....are you sure about ? .....can you try it under this high rpm and inform us about the result ?
Hi Shaun. At first I used a 10mm end mill at 500rpm and feed rate was 58mm/min. Then I used a 12mm end mill at 1000rpm and the feed rate was at first pass 58mm/min and 1mm deep. The next pass was done at 1000rpm and the feed rate was 116mm/min and 1mm deep. The last pass was done at 1500rpm and the feed rate was 116mm/min and 1mm deep. Hope that answers your question.
the machine is super stiff,, otherwise you would destroy the end mill very quickly. end mills have to cut with the side, that's what they are best at.. is it an ABENE milling machine ?
okay,, nice machine .. looks like a Deckel machines ,, same construction .. i have a Maho 400T cnc / tnc355 heidenhain .. it can mill hoisontal and vertical and with a rotating spindle it can be used as a cnc lathe ,, cool
These end mills look so huge compared to the .025" - .040" cubic diamond ones I work with, but look tiny next to the 4" diameter ones I used to work with. Lmfao.
For example I use Sandvik carbide inserts all the time in the lathe. There is no need to make videos on Swedish machine tools because everyone knows that they are good, but expensive. Much more interesting making videos on low price tools (China made) to see if they are good or just crap. Of course some are good and some are crap, and it's nice to see what's what. The end mills in this particular video are really good for the price. Would I buy them? Yes I would, and if they were crap I would not recommend or buy them.
Хорошие фрезы....в России в основной массе продают китайский металорежущий инструмент(фрезы,метчики,плашки....и прочее).Китайский инструмент ниже всякой критики.....резцы крошатся!!!плашки резьбу не режут,метчики ломаются!!!!Часто даже на один раз не режут.Делают из дешевого метала...инструмент в мусор - деньги на ветер.Другого в продаже нет.
Скучный. У вас нет производства в России? Все из Китая неплохо. Эти концевые фрезы на самом деле очень хороши и к тому же дешевы. Конечно, есть и те, кто лучше, например SECO, но и стоят они значительно дороже. Спасибо за ваш комментарий.
@@tompas11A3n52KkX В СССР металорежущий инструмент делали хорошего кочества....но в свободной продаже его небыло.Даже хлеб продавали - 2 булки в одни руки...любая ,,хрень,, была в дефиците! После развала СССР разорили сотни крупных и тысячи мелких производств,в том числе и металорежущего инструмента.Пример - завод ,,Калибр,, отлично помню метчики,плашки,сверла ,пальчиковые и дисковые фрезы с маркировкой этого завода.Но завода 30 лет как нет ....а инструмент говеного качества с былой маркировкой есть!!! Китай однако....электроинструмент продают с маркой,,калибр,,....тоже из Китая.Причем на одинаковые вещи клеят этикетки несуществующих заводов.Заходишь в магазин - абсолютно одинаковые дрели,но разные этикетки.Жулики продолжают наживаться на хорошей репутации умерших советских заводов...
@@АндрейШмырев-х8н Да, как я уже сказал, это печальное развитие событий. Но вы делаете хорошие истребители, вертолеты и подводные лодки. Не все так плохо, правда?
@@tompas11A3n52KkX Do you get free tools in exchange for promoting their products. That is why you like them. From a strict consumer point of view, it is the worst company to buy anything from. Shipping takes 6 to 8 weeks, returns are almost impossible they don't allow negative feedback or honest product reviews. Anything less than 3 stars is removed. It is the opposite with Ebay and Amazon
@@rogermaury7722 I am not promoting their products, I am doing a review and a test of the products I select. I am not liking all their products, if you look at this video ruclips.net/video/HjhkTt4qd8A/видео.html at 4:13 and 7:38 you can see what happens. And in this video ruclips.net/video/0Afb-2YUHp0/видео.html at 4:07. Bad quality that is and I am showing it. I am always trying to do an honest review.
Odd that they list the RC at 50 when carbide is in the hi 80's. Sure cuts like quality carbide. Seems the fellow testing the blue coated couldn't get thru his head that he was running dangerously low rpm. can't teach an old dog anything I guess. Many machinist commented on it, he just made excuses and ignored them. LOL!!! He'll hae one blow up in his face eventually at 270 rpm. GRRRRR!!!
As the man says,you won't be disappointed with these cutters. I recently ordered a set and have tried them out on steel,dural and plastics. They are the real McCoys.
Yes for sure they are.
I just got a set recently, they were so cheap and so sharp. I love them. I bought a spare set. The first ones are still perfect. Under $60 AUD delivered.👍👌🇦🇺
Looks like good tooling. I used to make tungsten carbide years ago. Expensive raw materials and sintering costs but it works great.
Yes these end mills are really good. So you've been a tool maker in the past, interesting. Thanks for watching and comment.
Looks like these exact ones aren't available anymore. Do they have an equivalent replacement?
Sorry but I don't know if there's an equivalent replacement available.
These cutters work as well as any brand that I have used, and at 1/4 the price, I am extremely happy. Also the service was excellent. (I am comparing with Australian prices)
Yes they are very good. I am very happy with these.
impressive for what they cost, I think they saved money on a simple grind profile, I see the leading edge pushes a long chip in every cut, but that isn't a problem.
Yes they impressed me too. Thanks for watching.
have you tried these on aluminium?
No I have not done that yet but I think they will perform well on alu too.
In fact that's my question as well. I don't know why on the selling page of this product on Banggood it has not mentioned aluminum. This makes me doubt little bit about whether it can be used for aluminum or not.
Although based on things that I have read in some sources, the ones that have aluminum in their coating (likeTAlN) cannot be used for aluminum, and this one doesn't seems to have any aluminum in it.
You would want to use a 2 flute cutter on aluminum. Also some lubricant to prevent the aluminum sticking to the end mill.
recomendet cutting speed for Hss in steel is 20 m/ min what equals to a 8 mm endmill in 1000 rpm. Cutting speed for carbide in mild steel is 200 m/min what would be 10000 for a 8 mm or about 5000 for a 16 mm. A 12mm should be somewhere in between but way up over 1500 ... Also use this endmills and have nothing to complain.
Yes very good endmills for the price.
Dear Tompas11,
Thank you for the good reviews! They are very useful to me.
In the video 2:04 there is a mistake for me, please help me, if you could.
I bought the same endmill set like you bought. Literally the same.
I weighed the 10mm end mill bit with a kitchen scale, and then a 0.01g scale.
The 10mm bit's weight is: 63.38g. You weighed the same bit more than 70 gramms.
Or your scale is bad, or I don't understand. My measurement is surely accurate (two scales gave the same results).
Zsolt
Hi Zsolt Nagy, well I don't have any other scale than the one in the video so I cannot make a comparison between different scales. Sorry about that. The reason why I made this comparison was to show the difference in weight between carbide and high speed end mills. Maybe there are carbide and there are carbide if you know what I mean, (different quality) or that my analog scale does not show so accurately as yours. Thanks for watching and comment.
HI @@tompas11A3n52KkX
Thank you for the answer and the video again.
Well, then your scale has the measuring problem, because the mill you have, the same as the mine, surely.
On banggood, and ebay, etc, is available digital scales 0.1g accuracy about 5-10 dollars, I reccomend them to You. Nice gadgets.
Your videos are very useful!
Thanks for your nice words and and for your recommendation on scales. I wish you all the best!
can this tool be not damage in 12000 rpm speed ?
12 000 rpm and the tool will be destroid yes.
@@tompas11A3n52KkX i had milled mild steel I beam with 12mm (wood router bit ) with my cnc router before (12000 rpm ) at low feed (20mm / s ) and depth (0.1 mm ) it cut nicely and now damage at all even without cooling .....that is why i asking about this milling tool ....are you sure about ? .....can you try it under this high rpm and inform us about the result ?
@@hardford1 1500 rpm is the highest speed on my milling machine so I'm sorry I can't help you there.
@@tompas11A3n52KkX thank you so much friend ....i will be in contact with you
What is that spray on oil you use? Great review. Nice to see the tool in action before purchasing. Thank you!
Thank you.
This is the cutting fluid I'm using.
www.biltema.se/en-se/car-care/lubrication/grease/cutting-fluid-2000018828
What milling machine did you use?
Aciera F3 made in Switzerland 1959.
Thanks, another good review. Can you please keep mentioning, feed rate and rpm, it really helps out beginners like me 😀. Cheers
Hi Shaun. At first I used a 10mm end mill at 500rpm and feed rate was 58mm/min. Then I used a 12mm end mill at 1000rpm and the feed rate was at first pass 58mm/min and 1mm deep. The next pass was done at 1000rpm and the feed rate was 116mm/min and 1mm deep. The last pass was done at 1500rpm and the feed rate was 116mm/min and 1mm deep. Hope that answers your question.
Sorry, feed rate should be 125mm/min and not 116mm/min.
Do you have a smart phone? Just download the fs wizard feed and speed app.
the machine is super stiff,, otherwise you would destroy the end mill very quickly. end mills have to cut with the side, that's what they are best at..
is it an ABENE milling machine ?
Nope it's an Aciera F3 made back in the glory days 1959.
okay,, nice machine .. looks like a Deckel machines ,, same construction .. i have a Maho 400T cnc / tnc355 heidenhain ..
it can mill hoisontal and vertical and with a rotating spindle it can be used as a cnc lathe ,, cool
@@gertkristensen6451Thanks. With my machine i can also mill both horisontal and vertical. The machine is very universal.
These end mills look so huge compared to the .025" - .040" cubic diamond ones I work with, but look tiny next to the 4" diameter ones I used to work with. Lmfao.
Mmmm me to LOL.
Why is your channel name Tompas11?
Who knows.
Great review. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you very much!
Thanks, another "good"review ! ! ! ! ! ! for Banggood ! ! ! ! !make some videos on great Swedish machine tools also.
For example I use Sandvik carbide inserts all the time in the lathe. There is no need to make videos on Swedish machine tools because everyone knows that they are good, but expensive. Much more interesting making videos on low price tools (China made) to see if they are good or just crap. Of course some are good and some are crap, and it's nice to see what's what. The end mills in this particular video are really good for the price. Would I buy them? Yes I would, and if they were crap I would not recommend or buy them.
Great review, cheers
Thanks.
Thanks for testing
Thanks for watching.
With a name like Banggood it's got to be good🤣
Mmm sometimes and sometimes not so good.
Their pretty good!
Yes Coy they are indeed.
Хорошие фрезы....в России в основной массе продают китайский металорежущий инструмент(фрезы,метчики,плашки....и прочее).Китайский инструмент ниже всякой критики.....резцы крошатся!!!плашки резьбу не режут,метчики ломаются!!!!Часто даже на один раз не режут.Делают из дешевого метала...инструмент в мусор - деньги на ветер.Другого в продаже нет.
Скучный. У вас нет производства в России? Все из Китая неплохо. Эти концевые фрезы на самом деле очень хороши и к тому же дешевы. Конечно, есть и те, кто лучше, например SECO, но и стоят они значительно дороже. Спасибо за ваш комментарий.
@@tompas11A3n52KkX В СССР металорежущий инструмент делали хорошего кочества....но в свободной продаже его небыло.Даже хлеб продавали - 2 булки в одни руки...любая ,,хрень,, была в дефиците! После развала СССР разорили сотни крупных и тысячи мелких производств,в том числе и металорежущего инструмента.Пример - завод ,,Калибр,, отлично помню метчики,плашки,сверла ,пальчиковые и дисковые фрезы с маркировкой этого завода.Но завода 30 лет как нет ....а инструмент говеного качества с былой маркировкой есть!!! Китай однако....электроинструмент продают с маркой,,калибр,,....тоже из Китая.Причем на одинаковые вещи клеят этикетки несуществующих заводов.Заходишь в магазин - абсолютно одинаковые дрели,но разные этикетки.Жулики продолжают наживаться на хорошей репутации умерших советских заводов...
@@АндрейШмырев-х8н Да, как я уже сказал, это печальное развитие событий.
Но вы делаете хорошие истребители, вертолеты и подводные лодки. Не все так плохо, правда?
@@tompas11A3n52KkX только на оборонных предприятиях порядок и остался....больше нигде.
Вы прям без охлаждения по стали работаете???
да, чтобы проверить качество
Banggood is a terrible company to buy from. Buy the same from Ebay or Amazon and you'll get it faster with better service
On the contrary, I have other experiences.
@@tompas11A3n52KkX Do you get free tools in exchange for promoting their products. That is why you like them. From a strict consumer point of view, it is the worst company to buy anything from. Shipping takes 6 to 8 weeks, returns are almost impossible they don't allow negative feedback or honest product reviews. Anything less than 3 stars is removed. It is the opposite with Ebay and Amazon
@@rogermaury7722 I am not promoting their products, I am doing a review and a test of the products I select.
I am not liking all their products, if you look at this video ruclips.net/video/HjhkTt4qd8A/видео.html at 4:13 and 7:38 you can see what happens. And in this video ruclips.net/video/0Afb-2YUHp0/видео.html at 4:07. Bad quality that is and I am showing it. I am always trying to do an honest review.
@@tompas11A3n52KkX Try to make an honest product review on their website. They will never post it if it is honest. Pure Chinese censorship
U make 0.5 to 1.5
Maybe...
фрезы говно, брал такие. У полушара затылок выше режущей кромки
???
Odd that they list the RC at 50 when carbide is in the hi 80's. Sure cuts like quality carbide.
Seems the fellow testing the blue coated couldn't get thru his head that he was running dangerously low rpm. can't teach an old dog anything I guess. Many machinist commented on it, he just made excuses and ignored them. LOL!!!
He'll hae one blow up in his face eventually at 270 rpm. GRRRRR!!!
LOL!