@@TrevA102 nah... customers are a dime a dozen. Theres only so manu g wagons, in so many specifications, at the color, equipment, etc.. that you want. We know what we got and we know someone will pay... kick rocks. Sure... maybe YOU will say no... no problem becauee HE will say yes
My old roommate was in car sales. “Sounds like the other dealership is giving you a great deal, probably should go with them”. Very standard reply to this.
Is that because they think they're calling your bluff or do they not care if you are telling the truth as they'd rather miss a sale in order to not have to deal with you?
@@topfueljunkie100 Trust me, you want this question answered. And true story. Do not even say this unless you're willing to walk out, or you lose face and respect from these sharks.
@@MB-gd6be no one cares about some fkn respect from a car salesman 😂😂 just give me a good deal or I'll go find someone who will, it's never been easier to find than now
Your friend was a garbage salesman then. It's very easy to play dealers against each other if you have even a slight clue what you're talking about. Especially if the car is being sold at multiple dealers close by
@@AS-hu2ek lol that’s kinda funny, i have 2012 civic coupe, payed off and she still runs like a champ. Not the most luxurious car in the world but at least I don’t gotta worry about ole Betsy she’s running strong
Bro, G-Wagons are 100k over sticker right now, and nobody really leases them, most is cash or finance for the tax write off .. You will never get it nowhere near a sticker price right now
I’m an F&I Manager and this is not right, money factor is a special rate program by the manufacturer, cannot be modified and it only goes up depending on your tier (credit)
False, the money factor can not be equated to interest rate. The two serve different purposes and depreciate the collateral differently. The money factor works in tandem with the residual to net out a payment.
I sell bikes in a shop and privately, whenever someone says a competitor can do it cheaper I tell them it's a good deal and they should take it, my bikes always end up selling at the asking prices so I'm not worried about it
Since when in recent history does the customer have any power? Shortages everywhere, you will be lucky to find a car you want let alone 20 dealers who have one. If I were a dealer I would just a wait a day and get someone who will pay more.
Awe we like customers who try and tell the salesperson how it’s going to go. Fun fact we do this all day everyday. When your home sleeping on Saturday and working from home we are in the lions den. But please step in I’m hungry.
Yea this only works when there are competitors that actually have vehicle inventory. Everywhere you go they won’t drop prices at all unless you have a connect cause of supply and demand so you’re stuck getting screwed by dealerships. That’s the reality we’re living in in 2022 folks.
Wow amazing negotiation please keep dropping this incredible knowledge on us 😂😂😂😂 this is how that would go. “The dealer across town, we own that store who did you speak with ??” The G wagon currently retails for about $20,000 over sticker price and we don’t typically negotiate with first time customers. Is this vehicle to expensive for you ? You might be interested in one of our certified pre owned vehicles? Let me know when you’ve made a decision I have important clients to follow up with.. he sounds like one of those Mavens that’s so good at negotiating he leaves without the vehicle 😂😂😂
Once i pick which car I wanna buy Call all dealers, narrow it down to 2 best Pack ur breakfast, lunch, dinner Go visit the dealer. Usually takes about 3-4days
Since when is a g wagon 100k and especially if you are leasing it which means it’s a new car, it’s closer to 200k, and dealerships won’t say yes to this, you need to have evidence so bring papers from different dealerships so they might consider the deal
G wagon is probably not the best example. G wagons are definitely way higher than $100k. Your money factor estimate should be pretty close to real life. Mileage is determined by the buyer. It adjusts the residual. If you need help, I can give substantially more information on how that really works. Those aren’t fees.
$7000 a year if your put $100k in a interest bearing account you can about 3.5% instead of buying it cash you'll save $3500k so the whole deal is $3500k\year. That's how much my car cost.
There really isn’t much room for negotiation on new cars these days. We were already seeing a supply shortage stemming from the chip shortage last year, and now many European car manufacturers have halted production due to Russia’s war since Ukraine is home to manufacturing facilities or essential wiring components, and Russia basically controls the global supply of two essential raw materials in car manufacturing, PLUS China is going crazy with lockdowns and might end up declaring their support for Russia’s war which would halt trade with China, and Chinese parts and materials are essential to US car manufacturing. If you can find a dealer who will sell to you even $1 under MSRP, that’s probably the best deal you’re going to find anywhere right now. With record inflation, I’ve also been seeing a decrease in 0%-1.9% APR finance offers that used to be a dime a dozen for new cars.
Salesman: “Cool, Let’s run your credit”.. moments later.. “great news you’re approved, price is $100k” Customer: “thought you were going to lower the price” Salesman: “I never said that” .. and now i ran a hard inquiry on your credit score for the next dealership to see . Hit the road window shopper
Don't follow anyone that's advising you on leasing a vehicle. Also, why would anyone want a G Wagon? I remember a guy I worked with showing me one online telling me how awesome it was. I had never heard of them so I was going into this conversation cold. I was like, that is one of the most hideous vehicles I've ever seen. That was 17 years ago, I've only seen one in person and I can confirm that I was right 17 years ago!
Wtf. Hahahaha. I worked in auto business as sales/internet/fleet. These type of buyers gets their calls dropped cause no one putting up with that bullshit for a lease that payouts out little
Sir other car is $90,000. Because it has less options. Ya not compairing apple to Apple sir ... sir your credit ain't at our stand requirement... your score is 590 . Your payment will be higher than your credit score...
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"damn bro, go check out the other guys then"
no actually car salesman are much more lenient in lowering prices bc of commission
@@TrevA102 nah... customers are a dime a dozen. Theres only so manu g wagons, in so many specifications, at the color, equipment, etc.. that you want. We know what we got and we know someone will pay... kick rocks. Sure... maybe YOU will say no... no problem becauee HE will say yes
@@mattnunez8660we’re talking about regular cars my guy 💀
@@mattnunez8660delusional
Honestly
My old roommate was in car sales. “Sounds like the other dealership is giving you a great deal, probably should go with them”. Very standard reply to this.
Is that because they think they're calling your bluff or do they not care if you are telling the truth as they'd rather miss a sale in order to not have to deal with you?
@@topfueljunkie100 Trust me, you want this question answered. And true story. Do not even say this unless you're willing to walk out, or you lose face and respect from these sharks.
@@MB-gd6be no one cares about some fkn respect from a car salesman 😂😂 just give me a good deal or I'll go find someone who will, it's never been easier to find than now
Your friend was a garbage salesman then. It's very easy to play dealers against each other if you have even a slight clue what you're talking about. Especially if the car is being sold at multiple dealers close by
@@topfueljunkie100they are calling your bluff and also it’s to make them in a stronger position because they don’t come off as desperate
“I found a dealer across town that will do it for $90,000”
So why are you here then
no actually car salesman are much more lenient in lowering prices bc of commission
To compare prices.most people recommend to get numbers from different places and then make up your mind.
You clearly don’t know what shopping around is , obviously even if the first offer is good you still want to shop around 🤦♂️
@@shadowk4718gotta be a young one. they messing up the whole game
I found another dealer for 90k , ok good go to him 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah for real lol this is probably going to be the response
no actually car salesman are much more lenient in lowering prices bc of commission
Armenians and cars :) ehehehe
@@J35Y6 Tell me you suck at Sales
Lol hearing a salesman say fair enough is like hearing my ex wife say we can share custody
thats one way of looking at it. she just wants to date and go partying while you take care of the kid.
@@BobRooney290facts
As a man who is a car salesman this sh*t doesn’t work
as a car salesman, if i’m allowed to lower prices to match, i easily do this for the commission
@@TrevA102 that’s cause your ass. A real salesman closes for all the money
Why would we listen to you y’all known for ripping people off
My APR is 0 because I don’t lease
Tell me you drive a 97 civic without telling me you drive a 97 civic.
@@AS-hu2ek no i drive a no payment car
@@AS-hu2ek lol that’s kinda funny, i have 2012 civic coupe, payed off and she still runs like a champ. Not the most luxurious car in the world but at least I don’t gotta worry about ole Betsy she’s running strong
This will never work right now due to a chip shortage. And who pays 7% APR lol
Very common on leases…
Ignorant fools.
There's no chip shortage
there's no chip shortage. they are using that excuse to scam people.
@@buryato_banderovetsright that 💩 was like 5 years ago lol
This shit don’t work like that 😂 they’ll tell you to kick rocks everyone gotta make money bro
I don’t think they gonna tell you to kick rocks, they just gonna try and pull some more grimey shit lol
no actually car salesman are much more lenient in lowering prices bc of commission
why would go back to the dealership that charges more? so you can throw it in their face? why waste time like that?
When I worked with Dealers the only people that called and did this were all Asians lol 😂 😂😂😂😂
Bro, G-Wagons are 100k over sticker right now, and nobody really leases them, most is cash or finance for the tax write off ..
You will never get it nowhere near a sticker price right now
Last time I tried to negotiate at a dealership, I was escorted out by security!
This guys out of his mind, you can’t buy a G Wagon at sticker anywhere 😂
Never be so in love with a vehicle that you're not willing to walk.
Real life - salesman just says "well just go to other place then if u can get it for that price"
I’m an F&I Manager and this is not right, money factor is a special rate program by the manufacturer, cannot be modified and it only goes up depending on your tier (credit)
Always choose Lowest miles they’ll wave your fees if you trade for a new lease or if you purchase your lease.
If you trade in or buy the lease out it waives your overage fees. Only time you pay on overage is if you just return the car.
oh really?
Let me get this dealership that accepts every offer I give
Literally no dealership on the planet will ever just buckle like that. Fuck the internet is the worst.
False, the money factor can not be equated to interest rate. The two serve different purposes and depreciate the collateral differently. The money factor works in tandem with the residual to net out a payment.
If the other dealers price is so cheap then why the hell are you here?
It's like hearing someone replay an argument in their head and saying what they wanted to say.
I sell bikes in a shop and privately, whenever someone says a competitor can do it cheaper I tell them it's a good deal and they should take it, my bikes always end up selling at the asking prices so I'm not worried about it
Ok
The dealer would literally be like “ are you fucking stupid why didn’t you take that deal”
Who the hell can afford not even owning the vehicle and it's $100,000?!
Just buy the damn thing.
Since when in recent history does the customer have any power? Shortages everywhere, you will be lucky to find a car you want let alone 20 dealers who have one. If I were a dealer I would just a wait a day and get someone who will pay more.
Bro, this is no match for a good car salesman 😂
J“Hi, I would like that DBX 707. Could you do $5,000 cash?” C”Sure”
I’m almost certain this guy knows nothing about anything
He a Millionaire......are you?
Dealership will just tell you to go with the competitors 🤣
This might of worked in 2015 but not anymore 😂
What? They don’t charge you high mileage fees? Even if you go over the set amount, it’s like 5-10 pounds per 1000 miles lol
Mercedes doesn’t allow lease mark up for more than .002. Don’t believe a word this guy is saying
Leasing is the biggest fake flex. It’s a rental agreement lol.
Launched from the showroom
Awe we like customers who try and tell the salesperson how it’s going to go. Fun fact we do this all day everyday. When your home sleeping on Saturday and working from home we are in the lions den. But please step in I’m hungry.
90k only you lease the vehicle??? In U.K. you’d own it outright, it’s called a hire purchase.
Wildly unrealistic in any car. And completely impossible on a g wagon
When you’re negotiating with a car salesman and he says “okay, fair enough…” 😂😂😂
Yea this only works when there are competitors that actually have vehicle inventory. Everywhere you go they won’t drop prices at all unless you have a connect cause of supply and demand so you’re stuck getting screwed by dealerships. That’s the reality we’re living in in 2022 folks.
Bro this guy has never negotiated in his life
Wow amazing negotiation please keep dropping this incredible knowledge on us 😂😂😂😂 this is how that would go. “The dealer across town, we own that store who did you speak with ??” The G wagon currently retails for about $20,000 over sticker price and we don’t typically negotiate with first time customers. Is this vehicle to expensive for you ? You might be interested in one of our certified pre owned vehicles? Let me know when you’ve made a decision I have important clients to follow up with.. he sounds like one of those Mavens that’s so good at negotiating he leaves without the vehicle 😂😂😂
Money factors are determined by the manufacturer not the dealer. They are non negotiable....
Yea not that n this market bub lol maybe try the scooter store
Once i pick which car I wanna buy
Call all dealers, narrow it down to 2 best
Pack ur breakfast, lunch, dinner
Go visit the dealer. Usually takes about 3-4days
Or if the first deal was so good, just go with that one rather hassling the other salesman for a discount 😄
Automation is charging a Xtra grand for the Floormats . Ain't no one taking 10k off nothing.
LEASING IS A FANCY TERM FOR RENTING THE DARN THING. NOT MUCH OF A WRITE OFF EITHER. 😁
How to get laughed at at every dealership. Have you ever bought a car and not gotten fucked fr?
When u negotiate yourself its easy...
Since when is a g wagon 100k and especially if you are leasing it which means it’s a new car, it’s closer to 200k, and dealerships won’t say yes to this, you need to have evidence so bring papers from different dealerships so they might consider the deal
If you know the competitor is better why don’t you go there first
Please don't try negotiating like this and think it will work.
Fun fact the rates are determined by the manufacturers and they’re national offers
This would have worked a couple years ago. They don’t negotiate like that anymore 😂
i dont negotiate with sales terrorists that rip people off.
Next time you lease a car know you are in no place to invest.
Just install bigger tires. You'll get more actual driven miles than odometer reading. Then switch them back at the end of the lease.
7% acting like he got a steal lol
Lmao that may work on a BMW 3 series or an MBZ C-Class!!
G wagon is probably not the best example. G wagons are definitely way higher than $100k. Your money factor estimate should be pretty close to real life. Mileage is determined by the buyer. It adjusts the residual. If you need help, I can give substantially more information on how that really works. Those aren’t fees.
$7000 a year if your put $100k in a interest bearing account you can about 3.5% instead of buying it cash you'll save $3500k so the whole deal is $3500k\year.
That's how much my car cost.
Man don’t try this in today market they don’t need ur sale when they have hella buyers for one car
There really isn’t much room for negotiation on new cars these days. We were already seeing a supply shortage stemming from the chip shortage last year, and now many European car manufacturers have halted production due to Russia’s war since Ukraine is home to manufacturing facilities or essential wiring components, and Russia basically controls the global supply of two essential raw materials in car manufacturing, PLUS China is going crazy with lockdowns and might end up declaring their support for Russia’s war which would halt trade with China, and Chinese parts and materials are essential to US car manufacturing. If you can find a dealer who will sell to you even $1 under MSRP, that’s probably the best deal you’re going to find anywhere right now. With record inflation, I’ve also been seeing a decrease in 0%-1.9% APR finance offers that used to be a dime a dozen for new cars.
I did this. They told me to leave someone else will pay for it
Any APR over 5% is too much...
Salesman: “Cool, Let’s run your credit”.. moments later.. “great news you’re approved, price is $100k”
Customer: “thought you were going to lower the price”
Salesman: “I never said that” .. and now i ran a hard inquiry on your credit score for the next dealership to see . Hit the road window shopper
Multiple inquiries..like 10
This is bad information. It's stupid to lease a car.
I found a blah blah....okay...go to that dealership and enjoy
If only he hassled the guy doing it for a lower price
For anyone that takes this guy seriously, don't
Note: dealership nowadays has a system that could check if you visited the other dealers nearby. You can't just lie.
how can they check?
Next time you lease a car, don't.
“No price is set.”
In the real world the salesman would be like go with the competition then
Second dealer should’ve just said go to the first dealer if they’re giving you such a good deal
I got a junkyard truck that barely runs for $500
You can negotiate your interest rate but this guy full of it
There's like three ways to calculate APR and they all give you a different answer. APR is a con and not a good metric for comparing loans.
What do you suggest?
Next time you RENT a car....don't. it's dumb
a gwagon for below sticker? 😂 they are sold out for the next few years mercedes doesn’t even take orders anymore..
@@weaverdetails4747 I don’t pay over sticker no matter what, never have never will. I always find the dealer willing to do less. Never had a problem
You want to buy a $100,000 car and you’re worried about the payment? Buy a $30,000 car, it will get where you need to go for far less.
You never lease a car in the first place
I work at a dealer and when we see people price shopping we send them out the door just as quickly as they barged in
Ok
Very Nice
Don't follow anyone that's advising you on leasing a vehicle. Also, why would anyone want a G Wagon? I remember a guy I worked with showing me one online telling me how awesome it was. I had never heard of them so I was going into this conversation cold. I was like, that is one of the most hideous vehicles I've ever seen. That was 17 years ago, I've only seen one in person and I can confirm that I was right 17 years ago!
Never that easy lmao
Everything you did was illegal everything the second guy said is against the law
Negotiations are not illegal
@@TGMacro Not only is it a felony the first thing but the second third and four things are all against the consumer protection act
7.x% is stupidly high for a car. My apr is 1.3%
He playing the game I guess but why does price dictate how many miles you can drive? Business model is FOS!
Wtf. Hahahaha. I worked in auto business as sales/internet/fleet.
These type of buyers gets their calls dropped cause no one putting up with that bullshit for a lease that payouts out little
If you need a $100k car to make you feel good in life, you don't know the meaning of life.
Yeah they're not going to haggle on a g wagon
Would work if you find a dealer desperate enough. You’ll get booted out that’s for sure.
Step 1, don't lease a car.
Step 1, always lease a car. you can deduct the lease off your LLC taxes.
Leasing is a fantastic financial tool. What makes you say “don’t lease “
Sir other car is $90,000. Because it has less options. Ya not compairing apple to Apple sir ... sir your credit ain't at our stand requirement... your score is 590 . Your payment will be higher than your credit score...
I went to college and dont know wtf a Apr is without google
Proving that Asians are good in math.
7.2% APR is trash lmao. The highest I’ve ever got is 1.9%
Was it a g wagon
@@gradog2095 F80 M4.
Right now you can’t get lower than a 2.9 unless a company is offering 0% which isn’t very common in this state of cars
How about never (f)lease a car. Ever.