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Thanks! The better we understand the app settings the easier it is to operate the inverter correctly. Some folks have had some issues setting up the app and what ever you do, don’t delete your account and start over if you have issues, call the vendor. ☀️👍⚡️🤩
I think you said 50hz but meant 60Hz for the US power. I heard it and looked up and saw 60 so I assume you meant to say 60, cos I'm pretty sure it's 60 at my place. good video. Glad you went through these. I can't set it on the display, too cryptic. I like the webpage method better.
Thanks for the explanation. I am slowly getting how this thing works, I don't like it compared to the flexibility of the Victron system, but for what I have it doing it works ok.
Yeah, I’ve learned that because of what you and I tend to do, we struggle a little bit trying to figure out how all the different systems do things differently. I know for me I just have to come to the realization that everyone does it all differently…
thanks a mill.. i do believe the UI have to be upgraded.. especially for the setting for the timers.. all timers should have a disable and enable setting to you dont have to re enter a time in certain circumstances... PS i have 3 fans 🤷♂,,hope the new update will have a setting for that... nice video thou👌
Thanks for the video. I was under the impression that there was no way to turn off the inverter side (and accompanied idle consumption and noise) while the mppt still charge the battery. You talk about standby mode- or the eps switch. Have you tried this? Looking for a definitive answer as to whether i could use the 6000xp with the inverter off but still bring in charge current through the mppts and utilizing DC loads - off the battery through a dc-dc converter 48-12v and or a small inverter that is super quiet. I'd really appreciate an answer if possible. Thanks!
Thanks for the comment. So you CAN turn off the EPS switch on the side to disable the actual inverter portion while still allowing PV to come in and charge the batteries. The fans will run anytime PV is charging though.
@@alaskahomesteadadventures7579 It's just a regular paddle switch on the side. I would imagine it's designed for regular use, but even if it did wear out for some reason, it would be an easy replacement.
@@alaskahomesteadadventures7579 Not a problem. So the switch is right inside the wiring compartment on the left. It's actually "in front of" all the other components which would make it extremely simple to swap (ruclips.net/video/mP09GCoR_R0/видео.html). The connections aren't soldered on. You would disconnect two wires, pop out the old switch, then reconnect the wires. You would end up spending more time pulling out all the screws on the cover!
Quick question. Is it possible to setup the EG4 6000XP to use PV and Grid as first priority to power the loads, and use Pv and Battery as back up when the grid goes down? I want to purchase one but want to know if this is possible first.
@@BaahSharon From what I'm told it will only use grid power. PV is used to recharge the battery in order to switch off of grid bypass. The two cannot mix in an off-grid inverter because there would be potential for power to get pushed back up to the grid. A hybrid inverter can do this, but not an "off-grid" inverter. At the moment I'm testing out other hardware so I'm not able to confirm.
I was tackling this next, great timing it was like you new all my questions ❤. I got 1 6000xp from a source and planning to buy 2 more from another source. Can the dongles connect together even though they are from 2 different distributors codes? I asked the new vendor but they are waiting to hear back from EG4.
That’s just because I have cameras and microphones pointed at your solar install…looking for content ideas… 🤣 I wouldn’t think there would be an issue with different customer codes. I’m pretty sure that just ties the inverter to a specific vendor list so they can easily support their customers.
@@AdamDeLay07 If you ever have a chance to get to Sunny Orlando Florida look me up I will spring for an Xlarge pizza, a beverage of your choice and we can talk solar. It’s been a crazy few days dealing with my solar vendor to resolve the issues with the 6500ex. BTW I do have a PTZ camera pointing at my solar so I can keep an eye on it during hurricane season remotely. emoji- emoji
I built a lithium DIY battery no battery coms to the BMS I have to use lead acid but not sure on the settings. It would be nice to have a quick start video on how to set that up the charge settings for a LFP battery.
@@Mike-01234 I believe I went through some specifics on programming lead-acid from the display standpoint in my install video. Not sure if this helps or not: ruclips.net/video/mP09GCoR_R0/видео.htmlsi=dp2ZcSmxLUpoafXz&t=1007
How do I know how many amps to put in my solar inverter? If my solar panel states 13.9 amps, do I put 20 amps in my solar inverter. have a in series 400 watt.
Hi adam, thak you for the video, I'm trying get the setting correct before I turn on the inverter. Looked at the official video for the setting from EG4 gave me no real info. I'm using Chins 12.8 v LIFePO4 200 ah batteries. I am puting them in series to make 2 - 48v batteries. The battery banks will be wired to a busbar before going to the inverter. The issue I need help with is 11 and 12 in the settings. Should I use SOC or VOC. What value should I be looking for. Here is the battery info: Charging Limit Voltage: 56.8V Over Voltage Disconnect Voltage: 58.4V Over Voltage Reconnect Voltage: 55.2V Float Charging Voltage: 55.2V DischargingLow Voltage Disconnect Voltage: 46.4V Low Voltage Reconnect Voltage: 49.6V Under Voltage Warning Voltage: 51.2V any help is much appriciated
@@peterpuertorico5925 I don’t believe Chin batteries have communication ability with a 6000 XP inverter. So you would end up setting your values to voltage and not SOC. Option 11 is going to be a shut down voltage that you want your inverter to completely turn off and stop outputting power. It’s kind of like a safety net to keep your batteries from hitting a low-voltage disconnect. Option 12 is going to be the voltage that you want to set your inverter to switch back to the grid to power loads. As far as values, it’s kinda hard to say. I know there’s charts out there that show you a correlation between voltage and SOC for LifePo4 batteries but they’re not that accurate. There’s not a 1 to 1 match between voltage and SOC. You would probably want to set both at or above the Chins low voltage warning level. Just make sure option 12 is higher than 11 if you have grid connected.
@@AdamDeLay07 thank you so much adam, that helped a lot. You are correct, Chins does not have an external bms. So for my situation, the values of 3, 7, 8,11, 12 are the only parameters that need to be adjusted. One other uestion, the unit you used to power the reisitors, is there a video on how to use that for our situation? I purchased one, but not clear on how to use it..... Thank you again, I am in Puerto Rico and trying to get this going before we are hit by a huricane..... any other tid-bites is welcome
Hello Adam. I would like to have the PV input charge my batteries when available, instead of just converting to grid mode to charge as this feature was available on the 6500ex. Is this feature not available on the 6000xp?
Yes, PV will charge your batteries. PV power will first go to cover any loads you may have on your system. If the loads are taken care of and there's still excess PV power available, that power will go into your batteries. This is how I run my system. I very rarely charge from the grid at all (unless my batteries are low and a big storm is coming in). I want to charge as much from PV as I can.
@@AdamDeLay07 I haven't connected any ac input to the inverters yet, so that is why I did not know this. So I guess you don't have a way to modify that setting since it does not exist? Thanks for your response.
Adam on a parallel system with 4 inverters AC charging current set at 20 amps. That will pull 80 amps from the grid. I only have a 100 amp service so it that would only leave 20 amps to run house loads correct? Or should I set to 10amps ea. to leave 60 for house . I have 18 lipo4 batteries. 15k PV. Your thoughts?
With the amount of solar you have, I would set it to 10a each. Ultimately it depends on if you really need to charge from the grid as well as what your grid loads look like. If all your loads are going through the 4 inverters, you could set a higher grid charge. I rarely charge from the grid unless I know a storm is coming and there’s potential to lose power.
I think you’re right about the10 amps ea. if it’s needed, I hope to not use the grid at all but just in case I don’t want to overload my 100 amp service. Great video! Thanks
Hi Adam , your help has been invaluable I was looking to switch ac power out while still allowing pv to charge. It looks like when I set unit via the mobile app to standby,both the power out and pv are off ? Is the a way to access just the eps only so that I can switch just the output while maintaining pv charging ? Thanks
Glad to be able to help! Try turning off the EPS switch on the left side of the inverter. I would be very cautious working inside the inverter while PV is still coming in. Not something I would recommend doing.
@@justanotherdillhole7824 Sorry. I think standby in the app/web monitor is a full system standby. I can't think of anything that will allow you to still charge with PV. Might be worth sending a message to EG4 about a feature request though.
I’m going to go work on a 6000xp system that someone may have programmed incorrectly. How do I reset it to default factory settings so I can start from scratch? Thanks.
I do wond if it's compatible with nmc lithium as a 12s battery pack and set the cut off at 40v and full charge at 49v for the battery pack. Planning on using it for this inverter. Haven't bought one yet but I do plan on getting one. Just setting up the power bank. 50 wkhrs worth that I have going on right now. If this works out for then it's going to be great especially for charging it up during supper off peak times.
@@dr.projectx5142 the spec sheet says that it should handle 38.4-60Vdc if configured in “lead acid” mode. I can’t say I’ve heard of anyone using a 12s before on this inverter.
Hey so I want use this as a server backup power supply! Can this switch from grid to battery inverter and vice versa with 10ms? Like this machine is always going to keep the load alive with either the grid or battery right? I'm trying to go for 100% uptime on these computers.
@@evilsadvocate I wanna say the transfer time is 15ms but even when I was on other inverters with 20ms switch time none of my computers turned off. Most of the time when the switch happened I was working on them and they didn’t miss a beat.
@@AdamDeLay07 holy cow this thing is amazing. So what i want to do is use my extremely cheap overnight rate 0.02c/kwh to charge batteries all night for use during the day. but also have an un-interruptable power supply. realy the UPS functionality is key for me because the server UPS units are kinda expenive and i dont love the intergrated batteries they have. I think im gonna hit the order button!!!
@@evilsadvocate they do have a new working mode section of their website control panel, which will allow you to designate the specific time frames that you want to charge from the grid and then all other times are designated as discharge times. So that sounds like exactly what you would want to configure in order to use those cheap overnight rates.
@@AdamDeLay07 I suppose my big concern is that, If im discharging the batteries during the middle of the day, and my battery state of charge is really low, is there some type of setting to switch over to the batteries (like a UPC) even if they are below the configurable dont use batteries threshold? I love the idea of banking the elericity when cheap but is there a setting for going back to grid when batteries are at say 40%SOC but still continue to discharge beyond that 40% if the grid goes down? Thanks for replying to my comments im just terrified to order a product that doesnt fit my needs c:
@@evilsadvocate yep. You can set the specific SOC or voltage you want to have the system seamlessly switch between battery and grid. ruclips.net/user/shortsVGxbid2btv8?feature=share
As long as you have your paralleled inverter settings correct, when you're on the dashboard of you app, I was told that you can change your device to show all paralleled inverters together. There's a device ID selector at the top. You should see a "parallel" option in that dropdown.
Latest software (ccaa-180B0C) doesn't have export to PDF option. (Have to switch to "Old Setting Page" to get this option) They've also changed some of the headings so things are in different places. New section "Working Mode Setting" ... I don't really understand the options there. (Active Mode, AC Charge, AC First Mode, Self Consumption) I get Failed, error code 3 when I try to change the AC Charge voltage. (AC Charge Based on "Battery Voltage") Thanks for making this video. I have much to learn.
Yeah the "Working Mode" page for settings seems to be an updated interface that they're working on. So the "Working Mode Settings" section allows you to determine how you want the inverter to run at certain times. Do you want it to Charge from AC, do you want it to only run on Grid or do you want it to operate in a normal "Battery first" state (self consumption). It really gives you the ability to fine tune your system based on your needs. As far as the error you receive, do you have battery communication set up between your inverter and batteries? If so, everything will be based on SOC and not voltage. Glad to be able to help!
@@AdamDeLay07 I have LiFe batteries with a BMS but no communication so I've set the battery type to Lead-Acid (per instructions) so it should be able to adjust charging by voltage... but it won't. It now charges the batteries to 54 volts which I suppose is adequate but I would like to charge to a slightly higher voltage.
@@MarkSpohr Gotcha. So are you trying to make this change on the Old Settings Page or the new one? What is the label of the field and what exactly are you trying to put into the field?
@@AdamDeLay07 I tried to make the change on both the old and the new setting page and get the same error 3. (AC Charge Start Battery Voltage(V) and Start AC Charge Volt(V) ) The battery float voltage is set to 54v (on the old page) and that is what it charges to. The new page doesn't have a float voltage setting. I just changed the float voltage setting on the old page to 55v successfully and it appears to have started charging the battery (hopefully to 55v). I still can't change the AC Charge Start Battery Voltage(V) (It gives me the error 3) but it looks like changing the float voltage causes it to start charging (slowly - ~100W).
@@MarkSpohr I don't think you can set the "AC Charge Start Battery Voltage" to a higher voltage than you have set for the "Charge Voltage". AC Charge Start Battery Voltage is used to tell the system when you want to start charging from the AC IN connection. Typically that's going to be a significantly lower value than the Charge Voltage because you want to use the battery power you have stored up. You set the Charge Start value to a low voltage threshold before your system switches over to AC IN/Grid power.
So if you have two inverters, I assume you have to do this for each inverter. I understand that the newest software will allow you to see a combined screen/web interface (when using multiple inverters), so you don't have to do the math to see the total numbers. Have you seen this yet?
I believe you still have to program each one, but I’m not aware of all if the capabilities of a paralleled system. I have seen images of the combined web interface which allows you to see a “system level” picture instead of just an individual inverter.
Ive watched this multiple times but still not sure if there is a settign so when the generator is on that it only charges the batteries without powering loads? The reason i ask is because a client asked why his tv turns off when his 240v generator throttles down while charging the batteries through the inverter
@@tjmooney4181 what are the generator settings set to? Is the generator too small? Is it an inverter generator? I wonder if the sine wave is too poor to be passed through to the loads?
@@AdamDeLay07 hey thanks for the quick response, it's a honda eu6500is Inverter generator. I have the settings as 13. ac in voltage range- default (I never changed anything) 14. Ac charge setting- no changes 15.ac input load timer - no changes 17. Battery wakeup - no changes 18. Max generator input power - changed to 4000 watts 19. Pv off grid - changed from enabled to disabled 25. Generator charge setting - changed to soc, then start to 50 and end at 95 even though auto start is not wired up for this generator yet?
@@tjmooney4181 nothing jumps out at me. Can you look at the charts on the monitoring site when you turn the generator on and see any specific correlation between the charge current and when the ac output turns off?
Is anyone else having issues today 5/21 with the EG4 monitoring website starting about 10am East Coast time? My system is running fine but the website and app don't show any new info
@@AdamDeLay07 It's back up for me now, yeah connectivity was good, odd. I've only had my system going for just over 2 months and totally off grid so I watch it closely. Thanks man for responding
@@slugbyte Not a problem! It did seem a little sluggish at first on refreshing the data, but it picked back up. If it happens again, I would first verify the lights are up on the dongle and then I would go to the Maintenance page on either the monitoring site or the app and see if you can read data from the inverter. Both of those should help verify connectivity between the monitoring tools and the inverter.
@@slugbyte ooohhhh, that's another good place to check. I see I have a similar gap on the Data History section as well. So they must have had some kind of server glitch this morning.
THANKS!!!!!!i couldn't figure out why i ha zero volts battery. i figure i could just hook up everything and go. why should i have to register and connect online, absolutely absurd. and if im not using a fancy rack mounted lifepo4 battery i have to set to lead acid to read battery voltage! WTF. also this thing wont "blend" grid with solar, wow. very disappointed in this thing.
You’re welcome! You can set up the inverter without setting up the dongle by using the front display. It does take some configuration though because every install is unique.
You cannot use the EG4 6500 on the EG4 Monitoring site. You have 3 options for monitoring tools for the 6500. 1. WatchPower - ruclips.net/video/2BvZBawPtl4/видео.html 2. EG4 EX - download from App Store, same install process as WatchPower 3. Solar Assistant - ruclips.net/video/ZzkWqQPdSNY/видео.html
You made a big assumption. I don’t have a computer right now. Please tell me this model can be programmed using the display/control panel? Should I download the app for my smart phone. Might that work to program it? Thanks.
You can use the display to program most of the settings. I think there's only a few advanced settings that are only accessible from the web portal (fan control, factory reset). Even the mobile app doesn't have some of the same advanced settings that the display is missing. You can do all your initial config from the display though. That's what I did. The mobile app/web app just makes it easier to make changes because you don't have to scroll through menus and options on the inverter display.
@@AdamDeLay07Chinese supplier said battery has Pylon technology, so they made me change to Type #2 (it was in Type #4), I did that remotely and now my whole system shut down. I no longer have communication to the inverter, and therefore no electricity to run my internet at that remote location in the Gulf of California. 😢
I am past the frustration phase with eg4. I purchased the 2.4kw all in one system and it's nothing but problems. Why a company would sell a system that is not plug and go is beyond me. I imagine buying a Tesla vehicle but the battery doesn't communicate with the car or the charger and you have to figure that out. - Looking at either getting money back or smashing it with a hammer.
What 2.4kw system are you talking about? I'm not aware of anything like that. Most inverter based systems require some wiring to do a full install. The AC side of things is usually what takes the longest but it really depends on what loads you're looking to power from the inverter. It sounds to me like you want one of those larger portable power stations like the Anker F3800 or the EcoFlow Delta Max. That's about as "plug and play" as you can get (unless you're looking at have it power your entire house).
@@AdamDeLay07 one from shop solar or signature solar. Just a package with panels. Anyway, the solar part has been easy but the battery and charging them has been a nightmare. Currently working on them again. Set to lead acid, no charge. Set to lithium no charge and no communication. Not too impressed with all the leg work needed to operate thousands of dollars in equipment. No wonder the average homeowner stays away.
@@hollywoodj500 unfortunately I don’t have an 18kPV. While I would imagine many of the settings are the same, I know there’s a lot more due to the 18kPVs hybrid abilities.
Now this is my understanding of the settings, so I could be way off...and if I am, please share the correct usage in the comments below for all to see. If you could tag the specific time as well, that would be awesome!
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Thank you so much for sharing. This video needs to be the top video for the EG4 6000ex it saved me time and a headache
Glad it helped! I know they’ve made even more changes recently so I may need to do another video on those as well.
Such a great useful video. Eg4 owes you for this, as it will reduce support calls.
Thanks!
Thank you for making this! This made setting up my new 6000XP’s soooo much easier!
@@smcnish1droid glad it helped!
Thanks! The better we understand the app settings the easier it is to operate the inverter correctly. Some folks have had some issues setting up the app and what ever you do, don’t delete your account and start over if you have issues, call the vendor. ☀️👍⚡️🤩
Agreed! Thanks for the tip!
alrighty now, this is what my son and I need, as we finish up the setup of his system, thank you
Hopefully it helps!
Thank you, that was extremely helpful for me... so you for sure helped at least 1 person!
@@tfettig awesome! Glad to hear!
I think you said 50hz but meant 60Hz for the US power. I heard it and looked up and saw 60 so I assume you meant to say 60, cos I'm pretty sure it's 60 at my place.
good video. Glad you went through these. I can't set it on the display, too cryptic. I like the webpage method better.
Whoops! You’re correct I did say 50…🤦♂️
Good catch! We do use 60hz in the US. Thanks!
Thanks for the explanation. I am slowly getting how this thing works, I don't like it compared to the flexibility of the Victron system, but for what I have it doing it works ok.
Yeah, I’ve learned that because of what you and I tend to do, we struggle a little bit trying to figure out how all the different systems do things differently. I know for me I just have to come to the realization that everyone does it all differently…
Another great video! Thanx Adam
This was very helpful! Thank you!
You're welcome! Glad it helped!
thanks a mill.. i do believe the UI have to be upgraded.. especially for the setting for the timers.. all timers should have a disable and enable setting to you dont have to re enter a time in certain circumstances... PS i have 3 fans 🤷♂,,hope the new update will have a setting for that... nice video thou👌
@@amirrichardson74 thanks!
Thanks Adam. You have helped me several times. I appreciate it.
Glad to be able to help!
Thanks for the video. I was under the impression that there was no way to turn off the inverter side (and accompanied idle consumption and noise) while the mppt still charge the battery. You talk about standby mode- or the eps switch. Have you tried this? Looking for a definitive answer as to whether i could use the 6000xp with the inverter off but still bring in charge current through the mppts and utilizing DC loads - off the battery through a dc-dc converter 48-12v and or a small inverter that is super quiet. I'd really appreciate an answer if possible. Thanks!
Thanks for the comment.
So you CAN turn off the EPS switch on the side to disable the actual inverter portion while still allowing PV to come in and charge the batteries. The fans will run anytime PV is charging though.
@@AdamDeLay07 Thanks. Is the EPS switch designed for regular use? Or will it wear out?
@@alaskahomesteadadventures7579 It's just a regular paddle switch on the side. I would imagine it's designed for regular use, but even if it did wear out for some reason, it would be an easy replacement.
Great news. I guess the guy i talked to at current connected didn't think of that.
@@alaskahomesteadadventures7579 Not a problem. So the switch is right inside the wiring compartment on the left. It's actually "in front of" all the other components which would make it extremely simple to swap (ruclips.net/video/mP09GCoR_R0/видео.html). The connections aren't soldered on. You would disconnect two wires, pop out the old switch, then reconnect the wires. You would end up spending more time pulling out all the screws on the cover!
Quick question. Is it possible to setup the EG4 6000XP to use PV and Grid as first priority to power the loads, and use Pv and Battery as back up when the grid goes down? I want to purchase one but want to know if this is possible first.
I believe you can see the On Grid EOD close to 100% so that the system will act more like a UPS and battery backup.
@@AdamDeLay07 Thank you, Can you confirm if Grid and Pv will take the load jointly after setting the EOD?
@@BaahSharon From what I'm told it will only use grid power. PV is used to recharge the battery in order to switch off of grid bypass. The two cannot mix in an off-grid inverter because there would be potential for power to get pushed back up to the grid. A hybrid inverter can do this, but not an "off-grid" inverter.
At the moment I'm testing out other hardware so I'm not able to confirm.
I was tackling this next, great timing it was like you new all my questions ❤. I got 1 6000xp from a source and planning to buy 2 more from another source. Can the dongles connect together even though they are from 2 different distributors codes? I asked the new vendor but they are waiting to hear back from EG4.
That’s just because I have cameras and microphones pointed at your solar install…looking for content ideas… 🤣
I wouldn’t think there would be an issue with different customer codes. I’m pretty sure that just ties the inverter to a specific vendor list so they can easily support their customers.
@@AdamDeLay07 If you ever have a chance to get to Sunny Orlando Florida look me up I will spring for an Xlarge pizza, a beverage of your choice and we can talk solar. It’s been a crazy few days dealing with my solar vendor to resolve the issues with the 6500ex. BTW I do have a PTZ camera pointing at my solar so I can keep an eye on it during hurricane season remotely. emoji- emoji
I built a lithium DIY battery no battery coms to the BMS I have to use lead acid but not sure on the settings. It would be nice to have a quick start video on how to set that up the charge settings for a LFP battery.
@@Mike-01234 I believe I went through some specifics on programming lead-acid from the display standpoint in my install video. Not sure if this helps or not: ruclips.net/video/mP09GCoR_R0/видео.htmlsi=dp2ZcSmxLUpoafXz&t=1007
Adam when are you going to do one video like that for the 18k inverter?
@@hollywoodj500 it’s funny, I’ve had quite a few people ask me about that. Unfortunately I don’t have an 18kpv to go over the settings.
How do I know how many amps to put in my solar inverter? If my solar panel states 13.9 amps, do I put 20 amps in my solar inverter. have a in series 400 watt.
You would want to program your charging amps based on your batteries and what they recommend.
Hi adam, thak you for the video, I'm trying get the setting correct before I turn on the inverter. Looked at the official video for the setting from EG4 gave me no real info. I'm using Chins 12.8 v LIFePO4 200 ah batteries. I am puting them in series to make 2 - 48v batteries. The battery banks will be wired to a busbar before going to the inverter. The issue I need help with is 11 and 12 in the settings. Should I use SOC or VOC. What value should I be looking for.
Here is the battery info:
Charging Limit Voltage: 56.8V
Over Voltage Disconnect Voltage: 58.4V
Over Voltage Reconnect Voltage: 55.2V
Float Charging Voltage: 55.2V
DischargingLow Voltage Disconnect Voltage: 46.4V
Low Voltage Reconnect Voltage: 49.6V
Under Voltage Warning Voltage: 51.2V
any help is much appriciated
@@peterpuertorico5925 I don’t believe Chin batteries have communication ability with a 6000 XP inverter. So you would end up setting your values to voltage and not SOC.
Option 11 is going to be a shut down voltage that you want your inverter to completely turn off and stop outputting power. It’s kind of like a safety net to keep your batteries from hitting a low-voltage disconnect.
Option 12 is going to be the voltage that you want to set your inverter to switch back to the grid to power loads.
As far as values, it’s kinda hard to say. I know there’s charts out there that show you a correlation between voltage and SOC for LifePo4 batteries but they’re not that accurate. There’s not a 1 to 1 match between voltage and SOC. You would probably want to set both at or above the Chins low voltage warning level. Just make sure option 12 is higher than 11 if you have grid connected.
@@AdamDeLay07 thank you so much adam, that helped a lot. You are correct, Chins does not have an external bms. So for my situation, the values of 3, 7, 8,11, 12 are the only parameters that need to be adjusted.
One other uestion, the unit you used to power the reisitors, is there a video on how to use that for our situation? I purchased one, but not clear on how to use it.....
Thank you again, I am in Puerto Rico and trying to get this going before we are hit by a huricane..... any other tid-bites is welcome
Sorry, just saw your video link from the other video you posted. no need to send that again.
Hello Adam. I would like to have the PV input charge my batteries when available, instead of just converting to grid mode to charge as this feature was available on the 6500ex. Is this feature not available on the 6000xp?
Yes, PV will charge your batteries.
PV power will first go to cover any loads you may have on your system. If the loads are taken care of and there's still excess PV power available, that power will go into your batteries.
This is how I run my system. I very rarely charge from the grid at all (unless my batteries are low and a big storm is coming in). I want to charge as much from PV as I can.
@@AdamDeLay07 I haven't connected any ac input to the inverters yet, so that is why I did not know this. So I guess you don't have a way to modify that setting since it does not exist? Thanks for your response.
@@jeffbaker5837 Not a problem. I believe additional changes are still coming to allow for even more flexibility.
Adam on a parallel system with 4 inverters AC charging current set at 20 amps. That will pull 80 amps from the grid. I only have a 100 amp service so it that would only leave 20 amps to run house loads correct? Or should I set to 10amps ea. to leave 60 for house . I have 18 lipo4 batteries. 15k PV. Your thoughts?
With the amount of solar you have, I would set it to 10a each. Ultimately it depends on if you really need to charge from the grid as well as what your grid loads look like. If all your loads are going through the 4 inverters, you could set a higher grid charge.
I rarely charge from the grid unless I know a storm is coming and there’s potential to lose power.
I think you’re right about the10 amps ea. if it’s needed, I hope to not use the grid at all but just in case I don’t want to overload my 100 amp service.
Great video! Thanks
Hi Adam , your help has been invaluable I was looking to switch ac power out while still allowing pv to charge. It looks like when I set unit via the mobile app to standby,both the power out and pv are off ? Is the a way to access just the eps only so that I can switch just the output while maintaining pv charging ? Thanks
Glad to be able to help! Try turning off the EPS switch on the left side of the inverter.
I would be very cautious working inside the inverter while PV is still coming in. Not something I would recommend doing.
Thanks , I should have mentioned I'm looking to control remotely the eps ? I don't see an option eco or in the app green mode doesn't seem to do it ?
@@justanotherdillhole7824 Sorry. I think standby in the app/web monitor is a full system standby. I can't think of anything that will allow you to still charge with PV. Might be worth sending a message to EG4 about a feature request though.
@AdamDeLay07 thanks adam have a good day
@@justanotherdillhole7824 you too!
thank you ...that was awesome and answered every time of use question i have
@@Ebbrush3 awesome! Glad to help!
I’m going to go work on a 6000xp system that someone may have programmed incorrectly. How do I reset it to default factory settings so I can start from scratch? Thanks.
I'm not sure if there's a way to do it from the display, but I know there's an option in the web portal. It's at the bottom of the Settings page.
are the settings being changed real time and stored into the inverter? or do you have to somehow stores your changes and reboot the inverter? thanks
The settings are being stored in the inverter and they’re being changed in real-time.
@@AdamDeLay07 Thank you so much for that quick response!!!
I do wond if it's compatible with nmc lithium as a 12s battery pack and set the cut off at 40v and full charge at 49v for the battery pack. Planning on using it for this inverter. Haven't bought one yet but I do plan on getting one. Just setting up the power bank. 50 wkhrs worth that I have going on right now.
If this works out for then it's going to be great especially for charging it up during supper off peak times.
@@dr.projectx5142 the spec sheet says that it should handle 38.4-60Vdc if configured in “lead acid” mode. I can’t say I’ve heard of anyone using a 12s before on this inverter.
Hey so I want use this as a server backup power supply! Can this switch from grid to battery inverter and vice versa with 10ms? Like this machine is always going to keep the load alive with either the grid or battery right? I'm trying to go for 100% uptime on these computers.
@@evilsadvocate I wanna say the transfer time is 15ms but even when I was on other inverters with 20ms switch time none of my computers turned off. Most of the time when the switch happened I was working on them and they didn’t miss a beat.
@@AdamDeLay07 holy cow this thing is amazing. So what i want to do is use my extremely cheap overnight rate 0.02c/kwh to charge batteries all night for use during the day. but also have an un-interruptable power supply. realy the UPS functionality is key for me because the server UPS units are kinda expenive and i dont love the intergrated batteries they have. I think im gonna hit the order button!!!
@@evilsadvocate they do have a new working mode section of their website control panel, which will allow you to designate the specific time frames that you want to charge from the grid and then all other times are designated as discharge times. So that sounds like exactly what you would want to configure in order to use those cheap overnight rates.
@@AdamDeLay07 I suppose my big concern is that, If im discharging the batteries during the middle of the day, and my battery state of charge is really low, is there some type of setting to switch over to the batteries (like a UPC) even if they are below the configurable dont use batteries threshold? I love the idea of banking the elericity when cheap but is there a setting for going back to grid when batteries are at say 40%SOC but still continue to discharge beyond that 40% if the grid goes down? Thanks for replying to my comments im just terrified to order a product that doesnt fit my needs c:
@@evilsadvocate yep. You can set the specific SOC or voltage you want to have the system seamlessly switch between battery and grid.
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any chance you have guidance on the parallel settings. I have 2 inverters and can only monitor 1 on the app
As long as you have your paralleled inverter settings correct, when you're on the dashboard of you app, I was told that you can change your device to show all paralleled inverters together. There's a device ID selector at the top. You should see a "parallel" option in that dropdown.
@@AdamDeLay07 Thank you for the response!! I got it figured out with this!!!
Latest software (ccaa-180B0C) doesn't have export to PDF option. (Have to switch to "Old Setting Page" to get this option)
They've also changed some of the headings so things are in different places.
New section "Working Mode Setting" ... I don't really understand the options there. (Active Mode, AC Charge, AC First Mode, Self Consumption)
I get Failed, error code 3 when I try to change the AC Charge voltage. (AC Charge Based on "Battery Voltage")
Thanks for making this video. I have much to learn.
Yeah the "Working Mode" page for settings seems to be an updated interface that they're working on.
So the "Working Mode Settings" section allows you to determine how you want the inverter to run at certain times. Do you want it to Charge from AC, do you want it to only run on Grid or do you want it to operate in a normal "Battery first" state (self consumption). It really gives you the ability to fine tune your system based on your needs.
As far as the error you receive, do you have battery communication set up between your inverter and batteries? If so, everything will be based on SOC and not voltage.
Glad to be able to help!
@@AdamDeLay07 I have LiFe batteries with a BMS but no communication so I've set the battery type to Lead-Acid (per instructions) so it should be able to adjust charging by voltage... but it won't. It now charges the batteries to 54 volts which I suppose is adequate but I would like to charge to a slightly higher voltage.
@@MarkSpohr Gotcha. So are you trying to make this change on the Old Settings Page or the new one?
What is the label of the field and what exactly are you trying to put into the field?
@@AdamDeLay07 I tried to make the change on both the old and the new setting page and get the same error 3. (AC Charge Start Battery Voltage(V) and Start AC Charge Volt(V) )
The battery float voltage is set to 54v (on the old page) and that is what it charges to. The new page doesn't have a float voltage setting. I just changed the float voltage setting on the old page to 55v successfully and it appears to have started charging the battery (hopefully to 55v).
I still can't change the AC Charge Start Battery Voltage(V) (It gives me the error 3) but it looks like changing the float voltage causes it to start charging (slowly - ~100W).
@@MarkSpohr I don't think you can set the "AC Charge Start Battery Voltage" to a higher voltage than you have set for the "Charge Voltage".
AC Charge Start Battery Voltage is used to tell the system when you want to start charging from the AC IN connection. Typically that's going to be a significantly lower value than the Charge Voltage because you want to use the battery power you have stored up. You set the Charge Start value to a low voltage threshold before your system switches over to AC IN/Grid power.
Are all the default battery settings set up for Eg4 Lithium batterys?
I believe you just set the battery type to Lithium and the Lithium Type to 0 (EG4), the battery should program all the default values for you.
Single and split phase are sinusoidal at 90 and 180 degrees, three phase is sinusoidal at 120 degrees
So if you have two inverters, I assume you have to do this for each inverter. I understand that the newest software will allow you to see a combined screen/web interface (when using multiple inverters), so you don't have to do the math to see the total numbers. Have you seen this yet?
I believe you still have to program each one, but I’m not aware of all if the capabilities of a paralleled system. I have seen images of the combined web interface which allows you to see a “system level” picture instead of just an individual inverter.
Ive watched this multiple times but still not sure if there is a settign so when the generator is on that it only charges the batteries without powering loads? The reason i ask is because a client asked why his tv turns off when his 240v generator throttles down while charging the batteries through the inverter
Does he turn off the EPS switch on the side when he charges from the generator? That’s the only thing that comes to mind.
@@AdamDeLay07 no he never touches anything, just turns on the generator manually. He has 0 issues without the generator on 🤔
@@tjmooney4181 what are the generator settings set to? Is the generator too small?
Is it an inverter generator? I wonder if the sine wave is too poor to be passed through to the loads?
@@AdamDeLay07 hey thanks for the quick response, it's a honda eu6500is
Inverter generator. I have the settings as 13. ac in voltage range- default (I never changed anything)
14. Ac charge setting- no changes
15.ac input load timer - no changes
17. Battery wakeup - no changes
18. Max generator input power - changed to 4000 watts
19. Pv off grid - changed from enabled to disabled
25. Generator charge setting - changed to soc, then start to 50 and end at 95 even though auto start is not wired up for this generator yet?
@@tjmooney4181 nothing jumps out at me. Can you look at the charts on the monitoring site when you turn the generator on and see any specific correlation between the charge current and when the ac output turns off?
Great video thanks so.much as always 👍
Thanks TJ
really helpful thank you.
Awesome! Glad to help!
Is anyone else having issues today 5/21 with the EG4 monitoring website starting about 10am East Coast time? My system is running fine but the website and app don't show any new info
I'm seeing data for my system. Do you see all 3 green lights on your wifi dongle?
@@AdamDeLay07 It's back up for me now, yeah connectivity was good, odd. I've only had my system going for just over 2 months and totally off grid so I watch it closely. Thanks man for responding
@@slugbyte Not a problem! It did seem a little sluggish at first on refreshing the data, but it picked back up.
If it happens again, I would first verify the lights are up on the dongle and then I would go to the Maintenance page on either the monitoring site or the app and see if you can read data from the inverter. Both of those should help verify connectivity between the monitoring tools and the inverter.
@@AdamDeLay07 I have a data gap from 10:06 until 12:34
@@slugbyte ooohhhh, that's another good place to check. I see I have a similar gap on the Data History section as well. So they must have had some kind of server glitch this morning.
You said the US uses 50hz but it is 60hz You set it write but said it wrong. 9:31
@@Off-Grid thanks, yeah I misspoke.
THANKS!!!!!!i couldn't figure out why i ha zero volts battery. i figure i could just hook up everything and go. why should i have to register and connect online, absolutely absurd. and if im not using a fancy rack mounted lifepo4 battery i have to set to lead acid to read battery voltage! WTF. also this thing wont "blend" grid with solar, wow. very disappointed in this thing.
You’re welcome! You can set up the inverter without setting up the dongle by using the front display. It does take some configuration though because every install is unique.
How to configure the EG4 Monitor on EG4 6500 Inverteer
You cannot use the EG4 6500 on the EG4 Monitoring site.
You have 3 options for monitoring tools for the 6500.
1. WatchPower - ruclips.net/video/2BvZBawPtl4/видео.html
2. EG4 EX - download from App Store, same install process as WatchPower
3. Solar Assistant - ruclips.net/video/ZzkWqQPdSNY/видео.html
You made a big assumption. I don’t have a computer right now. Please tell me this model can be programmed using the display/control panel? Should I download the app for my smart phone. Might that work to program it? Thanks.
You can use the display to program most of the settings. I think there's only a few advanced settings that are only accessible from the web portal (fan control, factory reset).
Even the mobile app doesn't have some of the same advanced settings that the display is missing.
You can do all your initial config from the display though. That's what I did. The mobile app/web app just makes it easier to make changes because you don't have to scroll through menus and options on the inverter display.
I have two docan 48 lithium batts, but my eg6000xp is only detects one 😢
@@obedcastro5254 I’m not familiar with those batteries. Do you have to configure specific ids for each battery (dip switches)?
@@AdamDeLay07I have tried the dial dip switch (4 switches) master: 1000 (address 1) , slave: 0100 (address 2)
@@obedcastro5254 if you only connect one at a time, does each battery show up?
Yes...one at the time
@@AdamDeLay07Chinese supplier said battery has Pylon technology, so they made me change to Type #2 (it was in Type #4), I did that remotely and now my whole system shut down. I no longer have communication to the inverter, and therefore no electricity to run my internet at that remote location in the Gulf of California. 😢
Good video
I am past the frustration phase with eg4. I purchased the 2.4kw all in one system and it's nothing but problems. Why a company would sell a system that is not plug and go is beyond me. I imagine buying a Tesla vehicle but the battery doesn't communicate with the car or the charger and you have to figure that out. - Looking at either getting money back or smashing it with a hammer.
What 2.4kw system are you talking about? I'm not aware of anything like that.
Most inverter based systems require some wiring to do a full install. The AC side of things is usually what takes the longest but it really depends on what loads you're looking to power from the inverter.
It sounds to me like you want one of those larger portable power stations like the Anker F3800 or the EcoFlow Delta Max. That's about as "plug and play" as you can get (unless you're looking at have it power your entire house).
@@AdamDeLay07 one from shop solar or signature solar. Just a package with panels. Anyway, the solar part has been easy but the battery and charging them has been a nightmare. Currently working on them again. Set to lead acid, no charge. Set to lithium no charge and no communication. Not too impressed with all the leg work needed to operate thousands of dollars in equipment. No wonder the average homeowner stays away.
@@paulbuoniconti5275 Sorry to hear you're having issues. Hopefully they get you squared away soon!
I haven't had one issue with mine. Followed the instructions everything synced and charged once the setting were correct
No EG4 me. Only a far more superior Schneider Electric low frequency, transformer based inverter will do for my real-world applications.
Schneider makes great inverters. What real-world applications do you run yours for?
When you will be doing one like that for the 18K PV Inverter?
@@hollywoodj500 unfortunately I don’t have an 18kPV. While I would imagine many of the settings are the same, I know there’s a lot more due to the 18kPVs hybrid abilities.