That literally allows you to rob yourself of the content of the game. I understand players not wanting to play arty, and occasional line that doesnt suit them, but limiting yourself just to one or two or 3 or 5 tech tree liens an playing just that, is like crazy.
I like the concept of it. I grinded a good number of good lines when I was terrible at the game. Now I get to experience one of them again if I so choose, and I can actually appreciate it.
or lets say I have the T110E5 that I loved the line grind, but I dont like lets say BC-25T line, so u can sacrifice the E5 line for a BC-25T, and then grind the E5 all over again
People will primarily use this feature to swap to brand new tech line releases. Instead of burning 1.5 million free XP they take a line they like and swap it for a new tech tree, then re-grind the favored line to await the next new tech tree release.
I don't want the weather effects to affect my view range and ground resistances. The only thing I want is to play ONE Map on a sunny day, during a thunder storm and in winter. I want Map variety, not one more thing I and new players have to adapt to. Most players don't even understand the current view- and concealment mechanics. How on earth is WG expecting THIS to go another way? Just give me more stuff like Winter Himmelsdorf, Fiery Salient, Ruinberg on Fire or Winterberg. JUST FOR ONCE let something just be an visual effect and not a new mechanic we have to learn.
I mean World of Warships has cyclones/storms randomly occur on some maps which affects concealment range + spotting range. I can't recall the last time I saw or heard a complaints about those so . . .
Well, the current view/concealment mechanics are pretty dumb when you think about it. ONLY in WoT can tanks go invisible right in an open field just because some stats crossed a given threshold.
@@matthewkabanuk443 Warships has maps/seas large enough for weather to only effect part of the map, except when the map already has some condition as part of it's individual specific feature, not as another layer of randomly happenings upon a range of maps/seas that will likely not occur as randomly as intended for, to feel purposefully against each player. WoT random battles is potentially complex enough with 41 or more maps to learn, let alone additional Assault versions and Onslaught versions of them (163+ variations) to learn ..and then random weather as well.. I'd rather they added another additional equipment & a consumable slots to tier 1's, 2's and 3's, than for what few if any players never asked for or wanted, this weather effects BS
@@skorpion7132scaling is wrong in pretty much every game, because 2km or higher cannon ranges would require maps to be a few times bigger than FL maps, which creates issues with RAM and computer specs to render, SSD space to store and time to create these maps. games like WARNO with repsfrago or steel division have realistic ranges if you remove the scaling thing that displays football fields as being 400m across. but even without, anti air at spawn can destroy an aircraft spawning at the opposite side of the map already. so imagine distances were 4x as large. apart from fog, there is stuff like eg early night vision optics only having a detection range of 800m, which would be 200m scaled down to WG sizes (wowp has airplanes shooting 700m+ actually, though, yet flight altitudes still don’t exceed 6.5 or so km). armored recon irl does exist because tanks can fire further than they can spot (across an open field though, not through obstacles). keep in mind also that this portrays stuff like scratches, dust and other imperfections ruining the quality of the optics, which makes it more difficult to see than 3rd person does. you also can’t see something that doesn’t have LOS with viewports in wot, yet eg War thunder just makes optics irrelevant: you can hit every shot even if all optics are just piles of glass shards at that point. so if you imagine 400m spotting range was 2.2km distance irl and view ports also have a smaller field of view, so you either focus on one area or skim 360° in which case you miss concealed vehicles, which is how the spotting circle (instead of: cone) works in wot). the 10s spotting time is so that concealment can change when firing, but a tank that has fired remains spotted. for gameplay consistency and tge like, this also results in plays utilizing that mechanic in an unrealistic way, but it’s still better than wo spotted time
wouldnt have a problem with it. at least then wot plus would have smth worth getting it for unless the trade costs extra money/gold on top of the wot plus cost
@@Wakuinot everyone has a rich uncle that gives them more money than they could spend. some people also play other games than wot and don’t want to be coerced into paying 100€/year for a subscription on top of premium time and premium tanks
@@gonozal8_962 wot plus doesnt have anything that a player must have. if they do add this trade feature in wot plus, youll be paying for a convenience. its no different than paying for a premium tank to progress faster. nobody is forcing you to pay
@Mutombo-d1s it could if they wanted to do it, they just wont. Drastically shorten the range on all vehicles but lights. As your lights die, it requires your team to stick together.
All I fucking want is new maps. I didn’t want the dynamic map stupidity. I didn’t want the revised perk system. They had some good maps in recon, but then pulled them back. I don’t want this idiotic trade-in silliness. All I want is one thing: new maps.
If you want to play tanks on new maps. I suggest you go try WoT Modern Armor. They have some new maps that aren't on PC. On Xbox you can play WoT Modern Armor with keyboard and mouse. That's how I play it.
Totally agree new maps, bigger maps that allow a couple of fall back positions behind each other, when you see a Zerg rush coming. Maps with cover that allow TD's to do their thing. Maps that arent centred around this mad rush to be "World of Medium Tanks" where mobility is the be all and end all. There needs to be a higher risk in the Zerg rush. Maps where semi static play is 'the thing" for those maps. Theres something like 44 maps with a map size built around a 5 minute game time and P6 PC. Weve got high quality graphics give us more high quality maps, how about putting more maps in circulation, random map loading these days seems to mean the same map 3 times in 10 games. Aaaaaaaargh. BTW I have nearly all the tech tree tanks, I think I need 10 (the crappy ones so I wont get them anyway}, so a swap option has no interest in me whatsoever. What they should do is make the tanks that are crap have some fun element about them that makes them playable (I'm looking at you mid tier British TD's) instead of introducing these money grab tanks.
Weather seems pretty cool... depending on implementation. They should factor the smoke from a dead vehicle as potential camo, likewise fog/rain/smoke from fires. Also, a tank that gets destroyed - particularly by burning or ammo detonation - should potentially cause local forest fires, potentially ones that spread. Fires should also cause efficiency loss of crews sitting in it and vehicles with damaged fuel tanks could actually catch fire.
Weather/smoke/fire etc will kill the scouts even more after the removed scouting and td spots from the maps. What can you do? The whole maps become useless for scouts accept yolo too death. 😂❤ They tried too make the game more and more arcade. I think its not the right way. 😊
@Mutombo-d1s I agree that bigger maps are needed big time. Then those new things are not needed to cover up the poor maps and changes what they have done. The maps are not fitting now with the powercreep/meta. ❤
This is going to reduce variety of tanks in the MM. Everyone will move from nerfed / bad tanks to the hot and popular tanks. But what matters to WG is that they will make MONEY from this.
One thing I'm paranoid about with this weather stuff is making it a lot harder on peoples PCs. I know plenty of people that play this game on potato PCs.
Depends, if it's fog effect. It could actually improve FPS since the fog will be obscuring so much detail they simply don't have to be rendered on screen.
I think the tech tree trade-in feature will be a great feature for players who join their first clan. When they find out what kinds of tanks the clan wants for battles they could trade in some of the early lines of tanks they ground out that do not get used in competitive play and it would be a win for both player and clan.
I'd love to be able to do this to dump branches that I realized suck before I've reached tier 10. I get to tier 9 and realize they blow chunks and would rather shift to a more competitive line. Since I'm flat swapping there should be zero fee associated whatsoever - because the CREWS don't transfer over and those have to be re-trained from scratch. They'll at least be converted to recruits, though I would hope all of their XP would be retained. But, honestly, the primary use this function will see is people swapping to brand new tech tree lines before they get nerfed so they'll get to bully people grinding the slog way.
Tech tier swap is only helpful if you have kept all the proceeding vehicles as you move up the tree. I don't think many casual players keep the tree full as they move up as they need the credits to purchase the next tier.
Im amazed something like the research bureau in WoWS has not come to WoT, the idea is pretty good and it could add option for a new store and some more weird blue print tanks, I mean call me crazy but that’s actually perfect for WG
i like the extra additions like weather effects this changes the way the games will go they should just make it an option to turn off for ppl who do not like it😄
I just hope it will be a one time only. What will happen when WG buff a new tank? 90% of the player base will trade-in a tech tree for this tank and spam the MM with it?
This tech-tree exchange addition.... perfect WG thinking! AS EXAMPLE: they will make some kind of "shit" line, let's say like Type 5 Heavy is currently, you will change it for K-91 line, after few months they will nerf K-91 as it's statistically stronger, and you will change it for a different line that is currently in "meta", over and over again, of course only for people who don't play that much and don't have many tier X's.
Dez, if you want to test the mode, maybe you give the community some announcement, when is the next try you would like to test it? I could imagine that you find enough people to at least click to enter the queue 😀
I would maybe exchange my Panzer 7 line for a Shitbarn line, as me researching the Panzer 7 was just a byproduct of me researching the Maus line. And compared to the Maus line, it absolutely sux. The only problem is that my Panzer 7 crew is nothing to write home about. But I´ll probably retrain my GSOR 1008 crew, plus add the loaders. And the others will be simply sent to other British tanks. So, IMHO, it´s not such a bad addition. Honestly, as a quite vocal critic of Wargaming since at least 2018, I´d say that the last few updates were not that bad.
If the trade in is cheap swapping from tier 10 to tier 10 only you could use the function to trade in a tank currently on top of the tree to one that won't be like arty then free xp/blueprint the top of the tree tank again effectively buying the other one for a discount. Really depends on the price tho
I am one of those players who will benefits from the trade in. I no longer really play the random battles. By the time I log in, the clan is into Advances and Skirmishes already. So I go right into competitive play, about every night. We do play pubs at the end of the night, but we are usually already burned out. We play random battles mostly to try to recover money we lost, if we didn't do so well in comp play.
They should do it for free, it sucks to grind weeks for a line and realise the tier 10 is bad af or u dont like the playstile of the tank. If WG does this i would start playing the game again for sure.
I dont think it is a bad deal at all, i have so many of these nation tickets or whatever that I'll be able to exchange it hassle free 😂 So I think if you want to actually play, you def should. I would fold immediately after hearing this news. Its awesome!!!!
Do you need to have all the tanks from tier 6 to 10 in your garage to be able to swap them? Pretty useless feature for me then, because I usually only have 2 or 3 tanks per line which I keep.
As a casual player, I feel like there is very few places for optimal Hull down gameplay (I like my 60tp). I know, I know, I'm trash, but I try. I feel for anyone who gets stuck with me as I try to play the tank the way it *looks* it should be played, but rarely do I ever get maps that feature environments that has that old heavy v heavy brawls. Pretty sure I get noob accusations based entirely alone on my movement, But Sometimes I do play the tank right and get some insane games because my mistake resulted in me being in the right place at the right time. I would really like to see a entire new set of maps because at least then I'm not the only one struggling to know if my route is what I *should* do
as others have said, the only real way I'd see this being useful would be to cover a line that is just horrendous to grind with one that is not so bad. Still probably wouldn't do it though, especially if it's much more expensive. By the time you're throwing all those bonds and other stuff at it, it's probably not too far out of the scope to free xp most of the line anyway. Or Blueprint.
I would use it in a different way, for example: if I'm a good player with a light tank and I'm very good with a certain tree, I'd change for example a heavy tank tree that I don't want to play or it's bad, and then I'd play my favorite tank tree again
Do you need to own all the vehicles from the line you want to trade?for example i have the amx m4 54 but only the t10,i cant trade that if i dont have the other tiers owned in my garage?
@@iybizuku1366 Not really? WT auf Pz. IV is just better in pretty much everything, turret turns fully, better dpm, camo is ALOT better, more flexible only things which it loses is accuracy by 0.06 and it just seems Grille doesnt hit shots which it should hit easily
Only have 2 tech tree lines not unlocked (2 newest lines), so the trade-in is no use for me, but does sound interesting. Although I do prefer when folk know how to play specific tech tree tanks, rather than jumping into a tier X tank without knowing how to play that type of tank. Although, as someone who wants to have all tanks unlocked, and not really being a light tank player, it might help me unlock that line, and then replay a line I enjoyed. Ah Westfield with the pipes playing and the rain, will feel even more like home in Scotland lol.
This is why I play war Thunder more now than I play WoT. On War Thunder the lowest pop I've seen on the NA server is 88k. I come on WoT and see 8-12 k during primetime on the NA server. One would think WG would be more interested in what the players are wanting. WG is ALWAYS making changes not asked for, and then NEVER listening to the mass player base on changes they want, like restructured MM, doing something about hacks etc. There are already too many mechanics in WoT IMHO.
I really like the idea of random events but I do feel they almost all counter lughts a bit ... surely the extra camo is nice but if you cant spot anymore what benefit does it have?
I have always thought weather effects would be a good idea. Surprised Wargaming is actually considering it as reducing view range could lead to longer battles and this seems to be opposite of where Wargaming has been heading lately.
I don't think random events on most maps actually improve the gameplay so it makes them useless if not harmful. Doubt weather will be any different. That's exactly why an option to disable would be nice it'll allow every player to choose by personal preference
the weathe should be random an on random spots of the map. Not prefixed things that will happen. Than it would be a change worth looking into. But scripted events on fix positions will be used/abused like every other changing feature on maps nowadays.
I would be cool if the first five minutes had forest fires, then it started to rain...Then with 5 minutes left, the fires are out and most of the forest is gone so there aren't as many places to hide.
@@jaygunter3828 i'm fine with the game and if not, i'll just leave and won't cry about it like you do. Just do something else instead of wasting your time coping about a game you stopped playing and seem to despise
Tech tree swap is useless, who grinds a line to X that he doesn't like? Weather effects should be cool, especially if ground resistance increases in rain and you'd get stuck in a swampy area close to lakes and rivers.
@@rogusmith2630 OK, there may be some exceptions. I got all tech trees tanks & modules researched and all Tier X in the garage - so this is mega useless to me.
wait for example i finished the type 5 line but i only have the type 5 in my garage could i trade the type 5 line even tho i dont hav oho type 4 in my garage? would i still get fv4005, conway charioteer?
I would definitely use the trade-in if it's not expensive. I would trade in easy to grind tree for a hard to grind. But I can't see any really good candidate for myself (what to trade in and what to get).
I hate being negative, but i think everything here is a terrible idea. The trade in event just further promotes ppl have no idea how to play their tanks, and it takes away from the prestiege of putting in the time to grind. The weather is a nice idea, but everyone and their mom will just disable it like random event (which should not be optional imo). So all in all its a lot of dev work for nothing.
lol. I wonder how long it take for some to come up with mod to remove weather or tone it down, which would be like cheating. If forest in on fire, even if it does not effect spotting range, but the effect likely will effect player own eyes...Whole thing is a bad idea, and another tool for cheater to abuse....
Here we are... The Dawnfall has begun. Letting players swap techtree so they can access tier 10 faster on multiple branches. Making a faster way to reach the end of the game is what starts the dawfall... Without needing to grind other branches and being able to select the one you want is an absolute middle finger to all the older players who spend months grinding for their T10.
Confused how it's faster when it's a tier for tier trade...to get a tier X trade, you needed a tier X...I mean yes it's game breaking to be able to swap from a recently nerfed line to something you'd actually want to play at a 1:1 tier for tier that even forces you to train a new crew...
@@Faelen_furry Did you understand that you can only use the trade in only once? So what's the point of trade in if you want to keep your old line? This only a trade-in though it will make popular tanks more popular and viceversa for more rare tanks. It won't make reaching tier 10 any faster.
It's high time to just farm one line you like, exchange it for other line and repeat whole process
careful, it clearly states NOT ALL lines can be selected as target ;)
You can do that once per account. Good luck
That literally allows you to rob yourself of the content of the game. I understand players not wanting to play arty, and occasional line that doesnt suit them, but limiting yourself just to one or two or 3 or 5 tech tree liens an playing just that, is like crazy.
I like the concept of it. I grinded a good number of good lines when I was terrible at the game. Now I get to experience one of them again if I so choose, and I can actually appreciate it.
@@lanelesicyou already can do that with blueprints and free XP
Tech tree swap would be handy for personal missions...if you never play arty you could swap over and get arty to finish the misisons
Or swap it after you do missions and never play arty again like every men should.
or they could just remove arty missions
@@Eren03eren along with arty themselves
Or just use books and you don’t need play arty at all
or lets say I have the T110E5 that I loved the line grind, but I dont like lets say BC-25T line, so u can sacrifice the E5 line for a BC-25T, and then grind the E5 all over again
Genius.
I thought of the same thing😅
People will primarily use this feature to swap to brand new tech line releases.
Instead of burning 1.5 million free XP they take a line they like and swap it for a new tech tree, then re-grind the favored line to await the next new tech tree release.
bc25t line is S tier tho
I don't want the weather effects to affect my view range and ground resistances. The only thing I want is to play ONE Map on a sunny day, during a thunder storm and in winter. I want Map variety, not one more thing I and new players have to adapt to. Most players don't even understand the current view- and concealment mechanics. How on earth is WG expecting THIS to go another way?
Just give me more stuff like Winter Himmelsdorf, Fiery Salient, Ruinberg on Fire or Winterberg. JUST FOR ONCE let something just be an visual effect and not a new mechanic we have to learn.
I mean World of Warships has cyclones/storms randomly occur on some maps which affects concealment range + spotting range. I can't recall the last time I saw or heard a complaints about those so . . .
Well, the current view/concealment mechanics are pretty dumb when you think about it. ONLY in WoT can tanks go invisible right in an open field just because some stats crossed a given threshold.
@@matthewkabanuk443 Warships has maps/seas large enough for weather to only effect part of the map, except when the map already has some condition as part of it's individual specific feature, not as another layer of randomly happenings upon a range of maps/seas that will likely not occur as randomly as intended for, to feel purposefully against each player.
WoT random battles is potentially complex enough with 41 or more maps to learn, let alone additional Assault versions and Onslaught versions of them (163+ variations) to learn ..and then random weather as well..
I'd rather they added another additional equipment & a consumable slots to tier 1's, 2's and 3's,
than for what few if any players never asked for or wanted, this weather effects BS
@@skorpion7132scaling is wrong in pretty much every game, because 2km or higher cannon ranges would require maps to be a few times bigger than FL maps, which creates issues with RAM and computer specs to render, SSD space to store and time to create these maps. games like WARNO with repsfrago or steel division have realistic ranges if you remove the scaling thing that displays football fields as being 400m across. but even without, anti air at spawn can destroy an aircraft spawning at the opposite side of the map already. so imagine distances were 4x as large. apart from fog, there is stuff like eg early night vision optics only having a detection range of 800m, which would be 200m scaled down to WG sizes (wowp has airplanes shooting 700m+ actually, though, yet flight altitudes still don’t exceed 6.5 or so km). armored recon irl does exist because tanks can fire further than they can spot (across an open field though, not through obstacles). keep in mind also that this portrays stuff like scratches, dust and other imperfections ruining the quality of the optics, which makes it more difficult to see than 3rd person does. you also can’t see something that doesn’t have LOS with viewports in wot, yet eg War thunder just makes optics irrelevant: you can hit every shot even if all optics are just piles of glass shards at that point. so if you imagine 400m spotting range was 2.2km distance irl and view ports also have a smaller field of view, so you either focus on one area or skim 360° in which case you miss concealed vehicles, which is how the spotting circle (instead of: cone) works in wot). the 10s spotting time is so that concealment can change when firing, but a tank that has fired remains spotted. for gameplay consistency and tge like, this also results in plays utilizing that mechanic in an unrealistic way, but it’s still better than wo spotted time
@@skorpion7132play WT then😅
what's the chances they put this behind "WOT PLUS" ?
Ikr.
oh, I didn't even think of that, but that's entirely possible.
wouldnt have a problem with it. at least then wot plus would have smth worth getting it for unless the trade costs extra money/gold on top of the wot plus cost
@@Wakuinot everyone has a rich uncle that gives them more money than they could spend. some people also play other games than wot and don’t want to be coerced into paying 100€/year for a subscription on top of premium time and premium tanks
@@gonozal8_962 wot plus doesnt have anything that a player must have. if they do add this trade feature in wot plus, youll be paying for a convenience. its no different than paying for a premium tank to progress faster. nobody is forcing you to pay
I'd really like new maps more often than just once every several years!
What they need to do is make radio stuff matter more. Its been in the game forever and exists just to make you grind
@Mutombo-d1s it could if they wanted to do it, they just wont. Drastically shorten the range on all vehicles but lights. As your lights die, it requires your team to stick together.
All I fucking want is new maps. I didn’t want the dynamic map stupidity. I didn’t want the revised perk system. They had some good maps in recon, but then pulled them back. I don’t want this idiotic trade-in silliness. All I want is one thing: new maps.
yeah since the new perk system my active time played on a weekly basis has dropped by about 70%
If you want to play tanks on new maps. I suggest you go try WoT Modern Armor. They have some new maps that aren't on PC. On Xbox you can play WoT Modern Armor with keyboard and mouse. That's how I play it.
I agree, literally not 1 person has ever asked for crew changes. Pointless and stupid. I just want new maps. Not the shit like oyster bay
Totally agree new maps, bigger maps that allow a couple of fall back positions behind each other, when you see a Zerg rush coming. Maps with cover that allow TD's to do their thing. Maps that arent centred around this mad rush to be "World of Medium Tanks" where mobility is the be all and end all. There needs to be a higher risk in the Zerg rush. Maps where semi static play is 'the thing" for those maps. Theres something like 44 maps with a map size built around a 5 minute game time and P6 PC. Weve got high quality graphics give us more high quality maps, how about putting more maps in circulation, random map loading these days seems to mean the same map 3 times in 10 games. Aaaaaaaargh.
BTW I have nearly all the tech tree tanks, I think I need 10 (the crappy ones so I wont get them anyway}, so a swap option has no interest in me whatsoever. What they should do is make the tanks that are crap have some fun element about them that makes them playable (I'm looking at you mid tier British TD's) instead of introducing these money grab tanks.
I miss Charkov, and they should ad Stalingrad too. :D
Weather seems pretty cool... depending on implementation.
They should factor the smoke from a dead vehicle as potential camo, likewise fog/rain/smoke from fires. Also, a tank that gets destroyed - particularly by burning or ammo detonation - should potentially cause local forest fires, potentially ones that spread. Fires should also cause efficiency loss of crews sitting in it and vehicles with damaged fuel tanks could actually catch fire.
Weather/smoke/fire etc will kill the scouts even more after the removed scouting and td spots from the maps. What can you do? The whole maps become useless for scouts accept yolo too death. 😂❤ They tried too make the game more and more arcade. I think its not the right way. 😊
Learn and adapt. Simple
@@iybizuku1366It will result in more camping and pasive play, exact the opisite what they try too force with this stuff. 😂
@Mutombo-d1s I agree that bigger maps are needed big time. Then those new things are not needed to cover up the poor maps and changes what they have done. The maps are not fitting now with the powercreep/meta. ❤
This is going to reduce variety of tanks in the MM. Everyone will move from nerfed / bad tanks to the hot and popular tanks. But what matters to WG is that they will make MONEY from this.
As long as weather is better executed than in World of Warships, where it only serves to help bigger ships and screw over DDs.
I'm expecting the weather effects to appear similar as to how they did it in World of Tanks Modern Armor.
One thing I'm paranoid about with this weather stuff is making it a lot harder on peoples PCs. I know plenty of people that play this game on potato PCs.
It has some levels to choose. I was going to test the impact on performance, but not yet able to get in to maps, no players.
Depends, if it's fog effect. It could actually improve FPS since the fog will be obscuring so much detail they simply don't have to be rendered on screen.
@@NexuJin true, but the rain one will definitely not do that. Wows is a perfect example, whenever you sail into the rainstorm performance drops.
@@hebrewhammer4086 Yes, that's the opposite. But pretty much what people first thinks of when it comes to rendering weather costing FPS.
Yeah, I run at 30-40 average fps at 100ish ping might break my game
I think the tech tree trade-in feature will be a great feature for players who join their first clan. When they find out what kinds of tanks the clan wants for battles they could trade in some of the early lines of tanks they ground out that do not get used in competitive play and it would be a win for both player and clan.
Finally! The Patton line will be at least useful for something :)
my first t10 and only rn, its gonna be the exchange for the 60tp 😂
@@Revonyn Lol don't, go for other line.
@@nimay13 why?
@@Revonyndon't listen to him. 60TP is meta.
or at least meta in onslaught and really good in Pubs.
@@Loudnose thats my point aswell
Type 5 Heavy line:" My Time Has Come."
Very informative video thanks Dez!! 👍
I'd love to be able to do this to dump branches that I realized suck before I've reached tier 10. I get to tier 9 and realize they blow chunks and would rather shift to a more competitive line.
Since I'm flat swapping there should be zero fee associated whatsoever - because the CREWS don't transfer over and those have to be re-trained from scratch. They'll at least be converted to recruits, though I would hope all of their XP would be retained.
But, honestly, the primary use this function will see is people swapping to brand new tech tree lines before they get nerfed so they'll get to bully people grinding the slog way.
After hearing Max von Krieger I am interested in all kind of commander voices
Tech tier swap is only helpful if you have kept all the proceeding vehicles as you move up the tree. I don't think many casual players keep the tree full as they move up as they need the credits to purchase the next tier.
Very true. Or when you can buy them back during discount.
Those sounds effects almost sounded right for use in Red Alert 3! I would use a DezGames Hammer Tank!
Im amazed something like the research bureau in WoWS has not come to WoT, the idea is pretty good and it could add option for a new store and some more weird blue print tanks, I mean call me crazy but that’s actually perfect for WG
Imma drop my Pz7 line. But for the 430U line. I didn’t mind the panzer grind..was actually a nice grind
i like the extra additions like weather effects this changes the way the games will go they should just make it an option to turn off for ppl who do not like it😄
Nice! I need the e50 line for the bloc missions haha
I just hope it will be a one time only. What will happen when WG buff a new tank? 90% of the player base will trade-in a tech tree for this tank and spam the MM with it?
really good ideas, weather and trade in. im excited
This tech-tree exchange addition.... perfect WG thinking!
AS EXAMPLE: they will make some kind of "shit" line, let's say like Type 5 Heavy is currently, you will change it for K-91 line, after few months they will nerf K-91 as it's statistically stronger, and you will change it for a different line that is currently in "meta", over and over again, of course only for people who don't play that much and don't have many tier X's.
You can only exchange once
I believe this would be a limited time offer.
I like this, would help many people from grinding terrible lines.
They invest all this energy in various BS ....and we still play one the same maps since ages
Dez, if you want to test the mode, maybe you give the community some announcement, when is the next try you would like to test it? I could imagine that you find enough people to at least click to enter the queue 😀
I would maybe exchange my Panzer 7 line for a Shitbarn line, as me researching the Panzer 7 was just a byproduct of me researching the Maus line. And compared to the Maus line, it absolutely sux.
The only problem is that my Panzer 7 crew is nothing to write home about. But I´ll probably retrain my GSOR 1008 crew, plus add the loaders. And the others will be simply sent to other British tanks.
So, IMHO, it´s not such a bad addition.
Honestly, as a quite vocal critic of Wargaming since at least 2018, I´d say that the last few updates were not that bad.
They had weather on consoles for a long time,it does make the gameplay better imo
If the trade in is cheap swapping from tier 10 to tier 10 only you could use the function to trade in a tank currently on top of the tree to one that won't be like arty then free xp/blueprint the top of the tree tank again effectively buying the other one for a discount. Really depends on the price tho
I am one of those players who will benefits from the trade in. I no longer really play the random battles. By the time I log in, the clan is into Advances and Skirmishes already. So I go right into competitive play, about every night. We do play pubs at the end of the night, but we are usually already burned out. We play random battles mostly to try to recover money we lost, if we didn't do so well in comp play.
I tried 3 days to test weather maps. No luck.
They should do it for free, it sucks to grind weeks for a line and realise the tier 10 is bad af or u dont like the playstile of the tank. If WG does this i would start playing the game again for sure.
I dont think it is a bad deal at all, i have so many of these nation tickets or whatever that I'll be able to exchange it hassle free 😂
So I think if you want to actually play, you def should. I would fold immediately after hearing this news. Its awesome!!!!
i agree atleast the first time but is wargaming they go direct to the give me more money
Yeah, at least make it free once a week or a month.
Do you need to have all the tanks from tier 6 to 10 in your garage to be able to swap them? Pretty useless feature for me then, because I usually only have 2 or 3 tanks per line which I keep.
As a casual player, I feel like there is very few places for optimal Hull down gameplay (I like my 60tp). I know, I know, I'm trash, but I try. I feel for anyone who gets stuck with me as I try to play the tank the way it *looks* it should be played, but rarely do I ever get maps that feature environments that has that old heavy v heavy brawls. Pretty sure I get noob accusations based entirely alone on my movement, But Sometimes I do play the tank right and get some insane games because my mistake resulted in me being in the right place at the right time. I would really like to see a entire new set of maps because at least then I'm not the only one struggling to know if my route is what I *should* do
as others have said, the only real way I'd see this being useful would be to cover a line that is just horrendous to grind with one that is not so bad. Still probably wouldn't do it though, especially if it's much more expensive. By the time you're throwing all those bonds and other stuff at it, it's probably not too far out of the scope to free xp most of the line anyway. Or Blueprint.
I kinda like the tech tree swap thing. I'll be able to trade one of the clicker line hopefully so fine by me
I would use it in a different way, for example: if I'm a good player with a light tank and I'm very good with a certain tree, I'd change for example a heavy tank tree that I don't want to play or it's bad, and then I'd play my favorite tank tree again
Nice to see WG knows how weather works. It shouldn't be static and if players in fog shot they should be visibly for half the time.
Thanks Dez!
Sandstorm and listen to it with Darude, perfect, but weather must be a thing. That is great. Trade in, not so much at all.
Do you need to own all the vehicles from the line you want to trade?for example i have the amx m4 54 but only the t10,i cant trade that if i dont have the other tiers owned in my garage?
Trading the Grille for FV005 then I'll grind the Grille line again as it is fun.
But as you say, that depends on if the cost is worth it.
Grille, your time is up!
Bad players call Grille bad😂.
Grille is getting insta yeeted once this patch drops
I love my grille.
People who get rid of tanks just to have to grind them again are dumb
@@iybizuku1366 Not really? WT auf Pz. IV is just better in pretty much everything, turret turns fully, better dpm, camo is ALOT better, more flexible only things which it loses is accuracy by 0.06 and it just seems Grille doesnt hit shots which it should hit easily
Only have 2 tech tree lines not unlocked (2 newest lines), so the trade-in is no use for me, but does sound interesting. Although I do prefer when folk know how to play specific tech tree tanks, rather than jumping into a tier X tank without knowing how to play that type of tank. Although, as someone who wants to have all tanks unlocked, and not really being a light tank player, it might help me unlock that line, and then replay a line I enjoyed.
Ah Westfield with the pipes playing and the rain, will feel even more like home in Scotland lol.
this is pointless for old players that have every line already unlocked
This is why I play war Thunder more now than I play WoT. On War Thunder the lowest pop I've seen on the NA server is 88k. I come on WoT and see 8-12 k during primetime on the NA server. One would think WG would be more interested in what the players are wanting. WG is ALWAYS making changes not asked for, and then NEVER listening to the mass player base on changes they want, like restructured MM, doing something about hacks etc. There are already too many mechanics in WoT IMHO.
DBV-152 assembly shop tank after the frontlines event might be 🤔
Like the weather effects idea. Tech tree swap seems like a price gouging waste of time.
I really like the idea of random events but I do feel they almost all counter lughts a bit ... surely the extra camo is nice but if you cant spot anymore what benefit does it have?
Honestly I just wanted weather for aesthetic reasons, cut the extra effects on the field 💤
i dont have gold for that and also is this update out or not yet? or it will be out after the current event ends
The tech tree sounds amazing then you could just regrind the same line over and over if they allow you to do that
holy f i was waiting weather update for years
I have always thought weather effects would be a good idea. Surprised Wargaming is actually considering it as reducing view range could lead to longer battles and this seems to be opposite of where Wargaming has been heading lately.
I hope an option to disable weather will be available just like random events, enough gimmicks is enough
You like stationary shit battles right?
I don't think random events on most maps actually improve the gameplay so it makes them useless if not harmful. Doubt weather will be any different. That's exactly why an option to disable would be nice it'll allow every player to choose by personal preference
the weathe should be random an on random spots of the map.
Not prefixed things that will happen.
Than it would be a change worth looking into.
But scripted events on fix positions will be used/abused like every other changing feature on maps nowadays.
@@Loudnose hhahahahaha gold !
@@CFox.7 That's probably what this dude uses too.
I have a feeling that some part of wot developer team is working on world of tanks 2.0 and that will be new graphics with like raytracing and stuff
I think the graphics of World of Tanks Modern Armor looking pretty fun. Textures detail is lower, but the overall effects are better balanced.
Cant wait to try and shoot in the rain with raindrops on my screen
I would be cool if the first five minutes had forest fires, then it started to rain...Then with 5 minutes left, the fires are out and most of the forest is gone so there aren't as many places to hide.
To play recon misson you have to play really early in the morning
This used to be a fun game. Tired of all the gimmicks, constant changes, and premium tank spam.
Change is the way of life. Get used to it. If it doesn't change everyone would say it was stale
@@jonathanprescott558I stopped playing a couple of years ago. No thanks.
@@jaygunter3828 then why still crying about it?
@@nico7674 Too big a leap for you huh?
@@jaygunter3828 i'm fine with the game and if not, i'll just leave and won't cry about it like you do. Just do something else instead of wasting your time coping about a game you stopped playing and seem to despise
What about the special crew members, like for example, my Max von Krieger in my maus, what will happen to him? I would not lose him, right?
Hold on, then the achievement will be change from the America one to the French one is it? Or is just a free achievement for both?
They could have buffed tech tree lines that needed it, but why do that when then can get you to trade it in for a 'small' fee?
Tech tree swap is useless, who grinds a line to X that he doesn't like? Weather effects should be cool, especially if ground resistance increases in rain and you'd get stuck in a swampy area close to lakes and rivers.
how about flash floods =), or white outs in a blizzard
@@brucenorman8904 I can see it now... Your health bar slowly depletes, then a message pops up: "Your crew froze to death."
i would i got type 5 the day it came out an loved it then. but now its kinda useless. id love if i could trade it for another
@@rogusmith2630 OK, there may be some exceptions. I got all tech trees tanks & modules researched and all Tier X in the garage - so this is mega useless to me.
I made the mistake of going for the t110e4 and is4 lines. Now I can finally switch that dogshit out for something good.
I’m still waiting for another blueprint trade-in Dx
2021’s feeling like a while ago already.
Finally recon missions are back
Definitely looking to trade in my STB-1 for another tier 10, not sure if I want to go for another medium tank or something like the IS-4
Yep they totally overlooked the MM again.
wait for example i finished the type 5 line but i only have the type 5 in my garage could i trade the type 5 line even tho i dont hav oho type 4 in my garage? would i still get fv4005, conway charioteer?
I'm so glad I have all lines opened:)
Don't care about them :))
I would definitely use the trade-in if it's not expensive. I would trade in easy to grind tree for a hard to grind. But I can't see any really good candidate for myself (what to trade in and what to get).
I can see people exploit it to grind a fun line, trade it in for a less fun one. And do it all over again.
Very good I don't use light tanks as I really can't be arsed
... why not give us some more maps, there must be 10+ just waiting to be released.
Would've loved this feature 8 years ago.... too bad WG taking things in the right direction but almost a decade after it should've been implemented
You just know you're a hardcore gamer when you refer to the sound of rain drops as a sound effect... 😂
I hate being negative, but i think everything here is a terrible idea. The trade in event just further promotes ppl have no idea how to play their tanks, and it takes away from the prestiege of putting in the time to grind. The weather is a nice idea, but everyone and their mom will just disable it like random event (which should not be optional imo). So all in all its a lot of dev work for nothing.
It would be interesting to trade my CGC with American arty. As well as the type 5 heavy line with something better
@DezGamez what about fog and CVS?!
3:20 meming aside, personally I think the french arta is lowkey the best arta in game. I kno, I kno, hot take for 50% of wot population
so you can only trade one time ever the tech tree?
So one line for another and then never every again?
ye
lol. I wonder how long it take for some to come up with mod to remove weather or tone it down, which would be like cheating. If forest in on fire, even if it does not effect spotting range, but the effect likely will effect player own eyes...Whole thing is a bad idea, and another tool for cheater to abuse....
when this trade in will be availiable?
Can one trade in a tech tree where there is only one tank or no tanks cause one sold them all, just to unlock a new tech tree?
i would love partly random generated maps tbh ... and an engine upgrade with less sharp edge texture/polygons ...
like minecraft
Imagine if they add rain and thunder in the map.
Here we are... The Dawnfall has begun.
Letting players swap techtree so they can access tier 10 faster on multiple branches.
Making a faster way to reach the end of the game is what starts the dawfall...
Without needing to grind other branches and being able to select the one you want is an absolute middle finger to all the older players who spend months grinding for their T10.
Confused how it's faster when it's a tier for tier trade...to get a tier X trade, you needed a tier X...I mean yes it's game breaking to be able to swap from a recently nerfed line to something you'd actually want to play at a 1:1 tier for tier that even forces you to train a new crew...
It's still force you to do grind because lose the fully research one, downfall for it just unbalanced match every update.
@@jakobusswart1376 like someone else Saïd, juste grind the same line over again
@@Faelen_furry Did you understand that you can only use the trade in only once? So what's the point of trade in if you want to keep your old line? This only a trade-in though it will make popular tanks more popular and viceversa for more rare tanks. It won't make reaching tier 10 any faster.
if you have a line that u have researched and sold all the tanks since u hate them can you trade for other line plus credits?
let me gues, this only works for fuly grinded lines and not up untill tier 9 for example
Make it cost 10k gold, be unlimited
and price increases 5-10k each time you do it
I only keep tier 10. I sell the lower tiers as I progress the line. Can I switch just a tier 10 with another tier 10 with this?
I would like to trade in my old laptop for new one. For bonds and blueprints 😅
I tried to get on the test server last night and it was down :(
So what happens with any vinyls and (3D) skins applied on the tanks that you are trading in?
*sent to depot.
update date?
R.I.P voice chat
i like that weather thing