How do you feel about the way hero pools are managed at the moment? Has it been a net positive or negative impact since the system was introduced this year?
I like it. It demonstrates just how pro these players are by having to constantly change it up. Teams can adapt by signing somebody to cover the gaps when certain players are not comfortable with certain available comps, sure; but most of them don't need to and are instead finding their own playstyles that will define them.
@@lucagallo8932 Naw, even if he didn't make the mistakes he did Mirror still whiffed a lot and would've been useless because he missed. That's what happens when you have an off game and/or get countered on a hero like Doomfist. No idea why they didn't switch him to another hero because Doom wasn't generating the plays needed to win.
@@night4345 As we both know, a single ability usage can completely shift a teamfight , I just wonder what wouldve happened if mirror actually recieved more bubbles . Maybe he would be able to escape with a slither of hp and force out important abilities such as immortality field.
Nikolas Anastaselos I understand but the video makes it seem like they intend to do these 900 iq plays (I’m talking about mechanics of individual play), when in reality they are just playing the game
BaconOrigins the don’t just play the game, if you’ve played Overwatch for a long time and have researched the game you can understand the thought that goes into every play by watching them. Almost everything is planned out in practice
The people that complain about solo carry potential in Overwatch miss the whole beauty of the game. Overwatch's depth of teamwork is unrivaled in the FPS world, and the things a team can do together when executing properly are just awesome to watch and do. In competitive, teams make plays all the time but rarely actually understand why what they did worked. That's just how complicated the game is. All the more reason to love in depth visual analysis videos like these!
@@MefoWho Overwatch has an excellent balance between individual impact and team dynamics. HotS was a MOBA competing against 2 giants that already dominated the genre.
I think the idea is excellent but we're just meta cycling. Widow and McCree have been banned for the third time now and Echo will probably receive a second ban next week because her playrate will be high once again
Kieran Calverley that’s the point of it though, instead of being stuck on double shield for 8 months, you rotate between that, dive, brawl, etc. There isn’t always a week x meta (that’s not why it’s there anyways), but you also aren’t stuck on Moira/Orissa jail for multiple months.
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Thank you for your content! I don't know if it's a possible video topic, but Shanghai Dragons running over Soul Dynasty like nothing may be a good examination. I really want to know how Shanghai made it look effortless.
You guys definitely deserve more recognition than you do now. Every one of these analysis videos are clearly edited and have really good insight on what really goes on in these OWL games. Keep it up!
@@Yousefbarakat310 Obviously Seoul didn't have a great day and they could definetly play better but I think we also learned that Shanghai is even better than anyone could've expected so I think an analysis of that match would be a good idea ngl
@@bendix8383 an analysis of what though? Fleta shooting down on Seoul without any counter whatsoever. Fits not getting healed by Bdosin but equally playing out of position consistently, whilst lip enjoys a free shooting gallery. Boring af. Don't analyse such a joke of a match.
Hi this is hochilee, the script writer of this video. I think there are less interesting pointers to give about this one but I've been still thinking about covering it considering how its the same seoul conversely struggling. I'll sleep on it. Thank you for the feedback.
This is such great analysis!!! A lot goes into this. I wonder why they didn't swap once they began countering them. I see the strategy they are going for and like the video says it can work if you make no mistakes. But continuing running Hammond and doom into a mei, Mccree, and brig seems counter productive.
I really agree with how the hero pools really help make the games much more interesting. I was personally hoping for choosing which heroes to ban, but I guess this is good enough.
man gladiators have always been my fave team. From season 1 to now they've always had the most interesting comps. Even though the players changed. Must have some creative coaches.
I swear this vods are awesome for teams. I know 2 schools around made overwatch teams and they’re playing in tournaments, but my school thought it’s not a good idea at all ☹️☹️
@Akshon Esports have you ever heard about the PS4 and XBOX "Overwatch with Cars", OnRush? I would enjoy a video showing the game to learn some tricks and to show up this wonderful game. Thanks.
I have no idea how to even start thinking like this. I barely understand synergys. Does Anyone know where i can go to start understanding the game beyond "this guy can shoot stuff"? (looking for comprehensive guides and the like)
hi Sat. I'm the script writer for this piece. you can ask me when i stream and i can let you know of some basics. also i might do a fundamental guide of some sort too about strat and comps eventually :). www.twitch.tv/hochilee
Hi script writer here :). so the string effect that shows the range of pull is actually not precise. So at max pull range the string will start to connect, but it would stay connected even when the distance becomes slightly higher than max range again. This is actually pretty common to see if you play orisa.
In my opinion ( as an NYXL supporter), i think NYXL, SF Shock, Shanghai Dragons, Philadelphia Fusion and Seoul Dynasty are the best teams in the league. This was so smart by Seoul
Shanghai was the first team to actually do this, I feel like it’s only fair to do one with them since they sort of showed how to best play the composition
![Blox Fruits Dragon Rework Update [Full Stream]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EqDAp8udhm0/mqdefault.jpg)
How do you feel about the way hero pools are managed at the moment? Has it been a net positive or negative impact since the system was introduced this year?
Akshon Esports negative people can’t play what they want because of the bans and some characters have been banned 3-4 times ( mecree and widow)
Akshon Esports negative
Hate it pepehands. Thought it would be a good addition, [spoiler] it’s not.
I like it. It demonstrates just how pro these players are by having to constantly change it up. Teams can adapt by signing somebody to cover the gaps when certain players are not comfortable with certain available comps, sure; but most of them don't need to and are instead finding their own playstyles that will define them.
I'm lllklll) lklsll
Mirror got so countered it looked like he was throwing
Monique Novak that’s the outcome of playing that shit hero
I think space was the main problem there
@@lucagallo8932 Naw, even if he didn't make the mistakes he did Mirror still whiffed a lot and would've been useless because he missed. That's what happens when you have an off game and/or get countered on a hero like Doomfist. No idea why they didn't switch him to another hero because Doom wasn't generating the plays needed to win.
@@night4345 As we both know, a single ability usage can completely shift a teamfight , I just wonder what wouldve happened if mirror actually recieved more bubbles . Maybe he would be able to escape with a slither of hp and force out important abilities such as immortality field.
@@night4345 Some of it was definitely space's fault by missing bubbles but I agree whiffing was what killed it.
jeez, i wonder how many times these guys have to watch the replays to know what’s going on from all perspectives... very impressive
Too many hours have been spent on the Replay viewer.
6:13
“Lands a direct punch...
On the air...”
😂😂😂
An attempt was made. BTW how did Baptiste break tether?
*it killed me how they put a full camera shot and joke in for a mistake, it's these small moments that make me love how precise OWL plays have to be*
bruh lol. yeah that was funny.
LOL
The skill level in here is not human anymore......
it is human just the video makes it seem like they intended to do 100% of the things they did, and like it was all planned out
I mean they are the best in the world... what you see in the owl is the best possible mechanics, comms and team comps one team can run
Nikolas Anastaselos I understand but the video makes it seem like they intend to do these 900 iq plays (I’m talking about mechanics of individual play), when in reality they are just playing the game
BaconOrigins but they do intend to do what the video says, they have strategies and every play is practiced in scrims
BaconOrigins the don’t just play the game, if you’ve played Overwatch for a long time and have researched the game you can understand the thought that goes into every play by watching them. Almost everything is planned out in practice
The people that complain about solo carry potential in Overwatch miss the whole beauty of the game. Overwatch's depth of teamwork is unrivaled in the FPS world, and the things a team can do together when executing properly are just awesome to watch and do. In competitive, teams make plays all the time but rarely actually understand why what they did worked. That's just how complicated the game is.
All the more reason to love in depth visual analysis videos like these!
well said my friend!
too much teamwork killed hots, we will see what happen when blizz decide ow is no longer profitable
@@MefoWho It's already not profitable
@@Yokie32 oof
@@MefoWho Overwatch has an excellent balance between individual impact and team dynamics. HotS was a MOBA competing against 2 giants that already dominated the genre.
Dude these vids are so freaking good like damn
so good that I feel I should be paying to watch these or at least support them on patreon if they had one
I don’t even play overwatch but they are still some of my favorite videos
The match can be summed up as Mirror messes up with poor Space trying to save him but none of the bubbles connecting.
I like the hero pools! They force teams to be more creative and think outside the box. I have had a lot of fun in comp with it!
I think the idea is excellent but we're just meta cycling. Widow and McCree have been banned for the third time now and Echo will probably receive a second ban next week because her playrate will be high once again
@@kierancalverley220 echos play rate will go down over time, as people on ranked realize she's an average dps
Kieran Calverley that’s the point of it though, instead of being stuck on double shield for 8 months, you rotate between that, dive, brawl, etc. There isn’t always a week x meta (that’s not why it’s there anyways), but you also aren’t stuck on Moira/Orissa jail for multiple months.
Ja Curururur yeah honestly echo is not that good Kids In masters and below play her and are so bad at Echo
Ratchet6859 Yea but then again it’s just 2 metas that keep cycling
6:10 "Mirror keeps going and lands a direct punch on the air"
That was the tipping point for me. Subbed.
Welcome aboard!
i don’t even play overwatch anymore but these videos are so well written/edited that i keep coming back to them
Hi guys this is Hochilee, the script writer of this piece :). Hope everyone is coping well with Covid-19. I'm very content to see that many of you enjoyed the analysis. Also thank you to the media team and the VO for an awesome editing of the content. Please let me know which match ups you'd like to see covered next :)!
I also stream and would welcome anyone who'd discuss Overwatch and various other things with me. It'll help me get ideas!
Mind the Korean language though :D
Twitch: www.twitch.tv/hochilee
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You guys make some pretty good vids. Every video feels like an educational documentary, but they're highly entertaining. It's phenomenal
Thank you for your content! I don't know if it's a possible video topic, but Shanghai Dragons running over Soul Dynasty like nothing may be a good examination. I really want to know how Shanghai made it look effortless.
You guys definitely deserve more recognition than you do now. Every one of these analysis videos are clearly edited and have really good insight on what really goes on in these OWL games. Keep it up!
@@kaoskongo i decided to cover their match yes. the round of hanamura to be exact. Similar squad plays are shown and i loved it.
Thank you so much for your hard work! These videos are AMAZING, they're well appreciated ❤️
This really looked like the Gladiators throwing the match.
Your videos are just insane. I'm a big fan of the owl and I your videos helped me to understand these matches better
Hi im the editor for the video. Thank you for your feedback :)
Thx for the likes❤
@@hochilee2118 you do a good job man keep going
Like the use of Skullgirls music
Edit: if you want to know what part of the soundtrack it is. It's the character select screen music.
What is a Skullgirl
@@tayshawnparchment5414 it's a videogame
Is it from skull girl ? Ive been listening to this song for awhile but didn't know that
@@BigBoss-sm9xj the Skullgirl's music is in the beginning
@@3ur0maticz3ro4 the jazzy sounds at the end too
It's fun seeing teams actively change their team comps mid game. It's makes for a more interesting game.
Can y'all make one of these for the Seoul vs Shanghai? Please.
Nothing to do with this game Seoul was so bad they were not ready to play the dragons
@@Yousefbarakat310 Obviously Seoul didn't have a great day and they could definetly play better but I think we also learned that Shanghai is even better than anyone could've expected so I think an analysis of that match would be a good idea ngl
@@bendix8383 absolutely, I think Seoul could play better but i think the dragons are the best team in the league
@@bendix8383 an analysis of what though? Fleta shooting down on Seoul without any counter whatsoever. Fits not getting healed by Bdosin but equally playing out of position consistently, whilst lip enjoys a free shooting gallery. Boring af. Don't analyse such a joke of a match.
Hi this is hochilee, the script writer of this video. I think there are less interesting pointers to give about this one but I've been still thinking about covering it considering how its the same seoul conversely struggling. I'll sleep on it. Thank you for the feedback.
this puts everything into perspective, overwatch at this tier level is legit a chess match
6:15 this is the state of overwatch with its stuns lmao
Lol
You guys are like inherited from blitz when they disbanded. Really love these kind of videos.
This was probably the best commentary I've heard. This was more interesting than watching the actual game live
I want to see more torb....
Same
I miss Dafran
@Kamran Haq lmao mercy hasnt been meta for 2 years, moth meta was one year and that was 3 years ago. ana is more in need of a nerf tbh
Hell no I want to see less torb
@@jonwicked7031 yOu sHOuLd TrY mY mEaTbALLs
This game is literally saying "You have activated my trap card!" twenty times.
Your league skin thumbnails are on point as always
Good job mate 👍
Ii really enjoy these play breakdowns. Very informative and well delivered.
Wow such a perfect Video... Really, REALLY good job, please more of it👍👍
Nice content. Keep uploading consistently i beleive in you 😊
The birds chirping at the end sounded so real that I thought the sound was coming outside my window at night time lmao
9:50 i just love the casual sleep, as if it's a regular thing
This channel is so fucking underrated it hurts
wow rly nice analysis there !
Thx for that !
I really appreciate them =)
This is such great analysis!!! A lot goes into this. I wonder why they didn't swap once they began countering them. I see the strategy they are going for and like the video says it can work if you make no mistakes. But continuing running Hammond and doom into a mei, Mccree, and brig seems counter productive.
still love how you make these
I really agree with how the hero pools really help make the games much more interesting. I was personally hoping for choosing which heroes to ban, but I guess this is good enough.
Amazing analysis, great job👍
There are 4 former london players in this match.
I bet they weren’t thinking any of that. I bet they’re like gun go shoot
Carpes torb next? Perhaps the clown fiesta of busan last fight philly v washington?
Your OST selections are always a bop and fit your videos perfect.
Skullgirls this time right? Paw-some!
Is it just me or I can hear FGO: Zettai Majuu Sensen Babylonia OST 『Absolute Demonic Front』at 5:55?
Love the video and analysis so much
Yoo that Maplestory music tho 9:05 😎👌
Omg the Maplestory BGM at 9:06
ACKNOWLEDGE THE MUSIC YOU USE THANK YOU VERY MUCH
imagine birdring fighting 3 former teammates
@@Balling630 done now you
Anyone know the name of the music at 2:11?
man gladiators have always been my fave team. From season 1 to now they've always had the most interesting comps. Even though the players changed. Must have some creative coaches.
Did Bap turn into widow? 8:00
He meant window (bap ult) haha does sound a bit like widow
But tobi sniped birdrings tracer tho
8:00 - did you say Widow instead of window? Is that a typo in the script?
0:46 you actually predicted the gladiator skin😂
1:45 kinda odd to see the soundtrack from Furi in here but I like it nonetheless
Anyone noticed they used the bgm of maplestory in deep leafre likd the skelegon maps for this video
I think we need a Seoul vs. Shanghai dragons analysis now
I swear this vods are awesome for teams. I know 2 schools around made overwatch teams and they’re playing in tournaments, but my school thought it’s not a good idea at all ☹️☹️
Great video!
I really do enjoy the Skullgirls music. Great use of it in the video. 👍
holy shit the margin for errors were so miniscule. fascinating to watch.
Damn can we get an analysis video like this for the hunters v nyxl game??
I love these tumbnails design! How do you make them?
Amazing video
Can you do more longer ones???
Why's a song from the Furi soundtrack playing in the background
I hear that 6.24 in the beginning
birdring playing like a bronze player using a death blossom when everyone is dead on point
Some people have a bad habit of wasting ults after the fight is over. Jinmu wastes dragon blade sometimes.
I was really hoping LA to pull this off!
Both teams played at inhuman levels and it was great to watch ☺️
My plan:
-Remove the hero pool, and role lock.
- Add no limits to hero selection.
-Ban every hero except for 1.
-all torb meta
Pls jeff
That would actually be insane 😂😂😂
Now i can agree with that
You had me at the first half ngl
why
@Akshon Esports have you ever heard about the PS4 and XBOX "Overwatch with Cars", OnRush? I would enjoy a video showing the game to learn some tricks and to show up this wonderful game. Thanks.
"Akshon's already maxed out theoretical production value, right? Even skillful play can only look so cool, right?"
--> New video. : O
Good videos but +1 for the Furi music :)
These vids are so good
I have no idea how to even start thinking like this. I barely understand synergys. Does Anyone know where i can go to start understanding the game beyond "this guy can shoot stuff"? (looking for comprehensive guides and the like)
hi Sat. I'm the script writer for this piece. you can ask me when i stream and i can let you know of some basics. also i might do a fundamental guide of some sort too about strat and comps eventually :).
www.twitch.tv/hochilee
Thanks
I love this stuff
Thanks!
I don’t like ban phases
While There was no ingame ban phase yet the best banning system was papers picked by a cat.
whats the point of using a doomfist comp if doomfist uses no rollouts to atack?
rollouts use all of your cooldowns and some rollout spots are illegal, like wherever you get a jump up.
How did bap avoid Orissa pull? 6:08
Hi script writer here :). so the string effect that shows the range of pull is actually not precise. So at max pull range the string will start to connect, but it would stay connected even when the distance becomes slightly higher than max range again. This is actually pretty common to see if you play orisa.
I don't know what's going on but it's still entertaining
Nice. More Risk of Rain 2 music. Love the videos, keep it up!
Respect for the Furi music :D
This analysis makes gladiators look like a quick play stack
that skullgirls character select music 👌
Looks to me like Profit and Marve1 did a lot of the heavy lifting. Good play.
I thought I was hearing things but yeah that's the skullgirls menu theme lol!
Am I crazy, or is that msm music from sf 80???
Around 9:20
Nice Video!!!
I need to keep up with league when did profit switch teams?
He was traded during the preseason.
11:27 *really, a NORMAL, SUPER COMMON play in Gold that DPS make all the time*
In my opinion ( as an NYXL supporter), i think NYXL, SF Shock, Shanghai Dragons, Philadelphia Fusion and Seoul Dynasty are the best teams in the league. This was so smart by Seoul
that fate grand order ost tho
Shanghai was the first team to actually do this, I feel like it’s only fair to do one with them since they sort of showed how to best play the composition
2:11
Because you can never have too much cc!
wow... Gladiators feels like my Gold comp on ranked...
Its actually called 'quickplay'
Exactly! Great plan, nice adaptability, but couple mistakes made it all worthless.
At least they do not tilt on each other every time shit happens
mirror is a secret gold player.
better explanation than owl...
Damn did that foomfiat punch that wall and the air
I freaking love the skull girls soundtrack in this
I think the combo of McCree and Sigma ults should be called Hangman, but that's just me *shrugs*
Skill vs CC
4:07 This Aged A Bit TOO Well
I like hero pools! Simply because that one week without echo was heaven
Allen Day for me was hell because I couldn’t tracer
13 minutes of Space missing his bubbles on doomfist
nice content more please