I made many of theses in the past with no leaf springs and the rear trailing length of the axle arm was longer than the front arm . it made for easier trailing for the two wheels. With no leaf springs the trailer sits lower and still pulls smoothly over bumps. Those trailers were my pickup trucks moving trailer.
Rocker beam suspension has been used on HD trucks for years. Suspension is very smooth. If you need more load capacity install heavier springs. If the rest of the suspension will support it. It’s only as strong as the weakest link.
*Я немного не успел доделать этот вариант подвески, а вы уже выложили!!) Резино-жгутовая ось. Срезается рычаг или делается из квадрата 50х50. Профильная труба 100х50х3, а лучше со стенкой 4мм. Синхронная сквозная сверловка с отслеживанием перпендикуляра. Лучше на координатно-расточном. А ещё лучшее откалибровать плазму/лазер и вперёд! Только в путь. Трубу оси стремянками к рессоре и вперёд! И да, лучше подобрать короткий амортизатор, чтобы поставить вертикально. И кстати, между рессорой можно воткнуть ещё пружину, а лучше пневмо-подушку... И будет VIP-подвеска!) Главное подобрать рессору правильную, и за резиновые жгуты оси переживаю... В общем нужны испытания. Жгуты на таких длинных рычагах не рассчитывались разработчиком.... Поэтому неизвестно как (сколько) ходить будут... А вы что скажете?*
Не всё так просто. Там резиновые жгуты. В россии нет стабильной экструзии резины. отсюда проблемы с качеством. и еще не уверен в прочностных характеристках это подвески - слишком большое плечо хода....
@@BagemRuStudio-Trailers , Не думаю что там жгуты стоят , да и не должны они там стоять им нет смысла там быть , предполагаю что там принцип обычного балансира , я сам достаточно давно использую прицепы к коммерческой технике , к газеле , были прицепы и на рессорах и на резиножгуте , в данное время его использую , поменял бы с удовольствием резиножгут на такую подвеску .
@@Вячеслав3962 они хотели тут совместить плавность балансира, с двумя точками опор к раме, а не как в КАМАЗе рама в одной точке давит на балансир. В принципе, если добавить а-образные рычаги, с ногами к ступицам, а вершина А через шаровую опору к оси, то неплохо будет.
Notice they don’t show the full trailer as they take the bumps. Only the axle with little angle reference. Not sold. Also not really sure why anyone would really need this aside from like 2 or 3 people..
Wow! All the backyard mechanics show up to comment now! Its about balance people. Go outside an build something instead of all the negativity. You took time out of your day to be an ass. It is an upgrade to a single axle, and probably tows better too. Sound like the old V8 guys who just got whipped by a 4 cylinder. Different strokes!
И что здесь такого. Я ещё в детстве собирал машинки из конструктора и подвеску делал такой, получался вездеход 8*8 с независимыми колесами. Мне нравилось как колёса преодолевали неровности а платформа в целом оставалась горизонтально.
@Метхун Чакраборти ну смотри, тут по хорошему развернуть аммортизатор на другую сторону балки, Нет тяги панара чтоб зафиксировать тележку от сильного продольного смешения. И от продольного держат только болты крепящие рессоры, а они ведь не должны быть намертво прикручены... Хотя там может сайленты...
As fitted to the Scammell lorries built before the second world war, with a transverse front spring they had awesome off road ability, check out the vids on the tube.
@@VitaliyMonastyrev Apparently you did not watch the video. There is a pivot where the beam attaches to the single axle. This ensures the load is distributed to both wheels at each axle end.
This is better then 4 individual springs on a dual axle. If you drive over something a dual axle will have all the weight on one axle, until the other wheel is able to reach the ground again. Leaf springs has been able to carry many tons of weight for 100 years, why should it not work on this trailer? The pivot system also keeps the load equal on the wheels, no matter if the trailer is front heavy or not. The dual axle i use will block the wheels when braking over speedbumps, because the wheels leave the ground at low load. This pivot system keeps road contact. I am guessing 2 larger shockabsorbers would also be cheaper then 4 small ones.
@@VitaliyMonastyrev these trailers have a max weight of 750kg sins he has no brakes. On this trailer both axles can have 750kg so there is no problem because they can handel the weight by themselves
no brakes?? NO THANKS! i have trailers with 1 and 3 separate axles. and yes the 3 axle one have 6 brake drums. working shocks and a thorson bar is all you need to make a good riding trailer. AND the trailer get to be lower then with a leaf spring.
You would be paying for 4 wheels/tires to do same job as what 2 would be capable of doing. I don't see the point, but it is different, so I guess a novice buyer might be impressed by the sales pitch.
all 4 tires carry an equal load... you just need to double the spring capacity , this is a walking beam assembly, been used in heavy duty trucks for over 50 years... at first look I see your logic but you are probably thinking it is the same spring as a single wheel axle but it's not, it's built with twice the capacity so the tires can carry the same load as a traditional axle configuration
@@gspgil2581 As with any other blown tire, break the lugs, lift the trailer, remove the blown tire, replace it with a spare, let the trailer down, gather your tools and continue on your way. I have owned a trailer with this configuration for over 20 years, have had blown tires on the front and rear, never any problems changing the tires. Have hauled tractor with heavy bush hog or heavy disc on many occasions without any problems.
@@venomhell5084 no tengo tiempo para perderlo con un pelotudo que seguramente no tiene vida social y se escuda en comentarios poco creativos para insultar y probablemente hacerse escuchar, porque en la vida real debés ser un fracasado y muy probablemente un gay reprimido que no se anima a salir a la luz. Suerte querido y seguí asi!!
I have a tandem axle trailer with air suspension. Works a whole lot better. Is aloud to carry a lot more then the cars can pull in Europe. Drives a whole lot better then with this.
Bogus design... You have two tires supported by only one spring which actually has no dampening on either tires movement other than the entire axle itself...? I can easily see how this will create excessive bouncing of the two tires, which is horrible for tire reliability.
Crazystuffyousee maybe you should look up walking beam suspension systems. They’ve been being used in big rigs, trailers, and heavy duty military vehicles for a long time. It’s a tried and true design.
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I made many of theses in the past with no leaf springs and the rear trailing length of the axle arm was longer than the front arm . it made for easier trailing for the two wheels. With no leaf springs the trailer sits lower and still pulls smoothly over bumps. Those trailers were my pickup trucks moving trailer.
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Rocker beam suspension has been used on HD trucks for years. Suspension is very smooth. If you need more load capacity install heavier springs. If the rest of the suspension will support it. It’s only as strong as the weakest link.
Yes sir, drove a fuel truck with a walking beam suspension, keeps better traction than some other air-bag suspensions do.
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I think the fact that a Chrysler 300 pulling a trailer is cooler than the trailer itself
You've made me curious about the suspension on my trailer. I'll have to check it out.
*Я немного не успел доделать этот вариант подвески, а вы уже выложили!!) Резино-жгутовая ось. Срезается рычаг или делается из квадрата 50х50. Профильная труба 100х50х3, а лучше со стенкой 4мм. Синхронная сквозная сверловка с отслеживанием перпендикуляра. Лучше на координатно-расточном. А ещё лучшее откалибровать плазму/лазер и вперёд! Только в путь. Трубу оси стремянками к рессоре и вперёд! И да, лучше подобрать короткий амортизатор, чтобы поставить вертикально. И кстати, между рессорой можно воткнуть ещё пружину, а лучше пневмо-подушку... И будет VIP-подвеска!) Главное подобрать рессору правильную, и за резиновые жгуты оси переживаю... В общем нужны испытания. Жгуты на таких длинных рычагах не рассчитывались разработчиком.... Поэтому неизвестно как (сколько) ходить будут... А вы что скажете?*
Давно пора сделать и выпускать такую конструкцию подвески , проста как пять копеек .
Не всё так просто. Там резиновые жгуты. В россии нет стабильной экструзии резины. отсюда проблемы с качеством. и еще не уверен в прочностных характеристках это подвески - слишком большое плечо хода....
@@BagemRuStudio-Trailers , Не думаю что там жгуты стоят , да и не должны они там стоять им нет смысла там быть , предполагаю что там принцип обычного балансира , я сам достаточно давно использую прицепы к коммерческой технике , к газеле , были прицепы и на рессорах и на резиножгуте , в данное время его использую , поменял бы с удовольствием резиножгут на такую подвеску .
Поверьте мне. Это резино-жгутовая ось! Причем фирмы Кнотт Аутофлекс. Труба квадратная.. 4 резиновых жгута с каждой стороны
@@BagemRuStudio-Trailers Всё может быть , но хотелось бы взглянуть своими очами !
❤ nice video thanks
This is a single axle with dual hubs or wheels per side..
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Tandem
This is really impressive, and it looks very stable and top quality hot dip gavalaized chassis
Wonder how it would handle a tire blowout.
It works very well on road bumps
Подвеска на 1 оси с плавующим механизмом хороша, но если перегруз и ось прогнёться то что?
Если учесть что прицеп тягают ролсом(много ли вы видели ролсов с прицепами?) то цена такого прицепа будет примерно 1 - 2 ляма
Что дурак что-ли. Или тоже еденарос.
@@disilberg9896 Эээээтооооо Ээээссттоооониииииияяяяя
После каждой поездки рихтовать схождение - на любителя
Проще и надёжнее на балансирах сделать. Две оси подразумевают серьезную нагрузку, а эта конструкция если и выдержит, то сильно деформируется
@@Вячеслав3962 они хотели тут совместить плавность балансира, с двумя точками опор к раме, а не как в КАМАЗе рама в одной точке давит на балансир.
В принципе, если добавить а-образные рычаги, с ногами к ступицам, а вершина А через шаровую опору к оси, то неплохо будет.
How does a transfer all that ENERGY? Time for a DRINK! Curious logo you have there.
Looks ok. A go concept. What is it like loaded?
Hola Percy sigues teniendo el Peugeot rojo ?
That’s what we know as a walking beam suspension.
And shocks. Really good design guys. Finally someone builds it right.
It's been around for almost a century, used extensively on heavy duty application class 8 trucks, known as walking beam suspension.
Notice they don’t show the full trailer as they take the bumps. Only the axle with little angle reference.
Not sold. Also not really sure why anyone would really need this aside from like 2 or 3 people..
I agree not a fully disclosed system I see potential problems
This system is designed for a single axle capacity and tandem axle stability without tandem axle cost
@@ridestreet20 yet they show it fixed to a 2T trailer
The upper shock mount seems vulnerable too
Looks more to prevent the axle moving from the left to the right.
Hola podrias poner mas fotos o enviarme mas fotos del sistema tamdem
Wow! All the backyard mechanics show up to comment now! Its about balance people. Go outside an build something instead of all the negativity. You took time out of your day to be an ass. It is an upgrade to a single axle, and probably tows better too. Sound like the old V8 guys who just got whipped by a 4 cylinder. Different strokes!
I'll stick with Torflex... if nothing else less moving parts.
И что здесь такого. Я ещё в детстве собирал машинки из конструктора и подвеску делал такой, получался вездеход 8*8 с независимыми колесами. Мне нравилось как колёса преодолевали неровности а платформа в целом оставалась горизонтально.
Вот и у меня вопрос, ГДЕ ИННОВАЦИИ, если У Кразов и Камазов так-же реализовано.
Correction: SINGLE AXLE DUAL HUBS/WHEELS,
Tandem wheels
called tandem axle because it's two axles in tandem
How we can buy one ? And we need the diagram to make one
Anybody know where I can buy a system like this in the USA?
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@Метхун Чакраборти принцип птс 9 на т-150
@Метхун Чакраборти ну смотри, тут по хорошему развернуть аммортизатор на другую сторону балки,
Нет тяги панара чтоб зафиксировать тележку от сильного продольного смешения.
И от продольного держат только болты крепящие рессоры, а они ведь не должны быть намертво прикручены...
Хотя там может сайленты...
@Метхун Чакраборти Плохо смотрели есть даже двух осные с независимой подвеской колес на одной стороне
Отличный прицеп...
Why were they demonstrating this inside a disco ??
So the age old walking beam is new again!
As fitted to the Scammell lorries built before the second world war, with a transverse front spring they had awesome off road ability, check out the vids on the tube.
Тоны две загрузить как татра станет.
в обратную сторону)))
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Eee amigo los vehículos y los remolque no son para subirlos al anden.
may be fantastic, but I wouldn't call almost empty, and a 4 inch curb at 5 mph, "most demanding conditions"
Same physics as the Equalizer spring setup. Although I think this one may be simpler.
Totally defeats the load carrying capacity of a dual axle system. The leaf springs in this video would be lucky to carry 1 tonne.
not to mention tire load capacity, on uneven surface all the weight could go on two wheels because of rigid connection between all four.
@@VitaliyMonastyrev Apparently you did not watch the video. There is a pivot where the beam attaches to the single axle. This ensures the load is distributed to both wheels at each axle end.
This is better then 4 individual springs on a dual axle.
If you drive over something a dual axle will have all the weight on one axle, until the other wheel is able to reach the ground again.
Leaf springs has been able to carry many tons of weight for 100 years, why should it not work on this trailer?
The pivot system also keeps the load equal on the wheels, no matter if the trailer is front heavy or not.
The dual axle i use will block the wheels when braking over speedbumps, because the wheels leave the ground at low load. This pivot system keeps road contact.
I am guessing 2 larger shockabsorbers would also be cheaper then 4 small ones.
This trailer has no brakes so in Europe you can only pull a total weight of 750kg without brakes. So doenst need to carry 1 ton
@@VitaliyMonastyrev these trailers have a max weight of 750kg sins he has no brakes. On this trailer both axles can have 750kg so there is no problem because they can handel the weight by themselves
What's wrong with the standard equalizer tandem axle or a 1700kg rated single?
There is nothing wrong with the standard
Interessante o sistema de suspensão.
no brakes?? NO THANKS!
i have trailers with 1 and 3 separate axles. and yes the 3 axle one have 6 brake drums. working shocks and a thorson bar is all you need to make a good riding trailer. AND the trailer get to be lower then with a leaf spring.
This is not a good idea if you have a blow out on one tire the other tire will hit the underside of the deck and possibly blow out as well
Bumps stops.
Gostei muito canto custa uma dessa
Max capacity with this design?
Achei muito legal essa suspensão
In the trucking industry that is known as a bogie axle. Next time you see a concrete mix truck, look at the suspension on the rear axles.
You are wrong
can you send trailer to me
1700 klg non freine !!!!!!
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Colocando 2 molas espiral no eixo 1 de cada lado da certo?
Opa beleza.viu sabe dizer se esse cistema de suspensao fica como um eixo ou dois exos no documento
Wauuuu...Im so suprised🧐🙄21st century
You would be paying for 4 wheels/tires to do same job as what 2 would be capable of doing. I don't see the point, but it is different, so I guess a novice buyer might be impressed by the sales pitch.
all 4 tires carry an equal load... you just need to double the spring capacity , this is a walking beam assembly, been used in heavy duty trucks for over 50 years... at first look I see your logic but you are probably thinking it is the same spring as a single wheel axle but it's not, it's built with twice the capacity so the tires can carry the same load as a traditional axle configuration
@@JamesEDennison Thanks for clarifying
Just a question what about if one of the tires blows
@@gspgil2581
As with any other blown tire, break the lugs, lift the trailer, remove the blown tire, replace it with a spare, let the trailer down, gather your tools and continue on your way. I have owned a trailer with this configuration for over 20 years, have had blown tires on the front and rear, never any problems changing the tires. Have hauled tractor with heavy bush hog or heavy disc on many occasions without any problems.
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Breaks?
what broke?
Jens Weier you mean “breaks” or “brakes”?😑🤨
think the weight will be shifted to the vehicle as the center of gravity shifts
Fantastico
Lo ideal sería manejar x la calle no x las veredas!
@@patriciofripp841 te agradezco la oferta pero no le pego a los gays, beso en la cola...
@@patriciofripp841 si no se culear entonces como naciste vos boludin, por suerte no te di el apellido....
@@venomhell5084 no tengo tiempo para perderlo con un pelotudo que seguramente no tiene vida social y se escuda en comentarios poco creativos para insultar y probablemente hacerse escuchar, porque en la vida real debés ser un fracasado y muy probablemente un gay reprimido que no se anima a salir a la luz. Suerte querido y seguí asi!!
@@patriciofripp841 ja ja de aca se siente como te duele el orto ja ja ja
Boa noite eu queria ver mais detalhado um eixo
Gostei q mais detalhes dessa carretinha
Rolls royce + trailer = swag
*Chrysler 300
How tf did u think that’s a roller
LMAO where do you see a Rolls Royce??
Зачем ти нам траурку показиваеш. Что небило нормального авто?
Muito bom.
La suspension es similar a la de un trailer no es muy relevante
Прицеп почему без тормозов. минус кто его изготовил 👎
I have a tandem axle trailer with air suspension. Works a whole lot better. Is aloud to carry a lot more then the cars can pull in Europe. Drives a whole lot better then with this.
fast so wie die kuraz trailer aus absurdistan
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У нас за такие тачки прицеп не цепляют)))
Головы нет на плечях вот и не цыпляют
Не то что наши мзса
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Po shit walking beams all trucks have air ride now. Trailers will go to air ride to
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Bogus design... You have two tires supported by only one spring which actually has no dampening on either tires movement other than the entire axle itself...? I can easily see how this will create excessive bouncing of the two tires, which is horrible for tire reliability.
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Crazystuffyousee maybe you should look up walking beam suspension systems.
They’ve been being used in big rigs, trailers, and heavy duty military vehicles for a long time.
It’s a tried and true design.
Steve J ...true , even have seen one design with a live front axle !
Everyone thinks they’re an engineer in the RUclips comments 🤣
Esse cistema ai consta como um eixo no documento ou fica como dois eixos.obrigado