Is AI slightly conscious, as OpenAI's Chief Scientist suggests?
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I had to remove and repost this because of a clip of a human heart, sorry! I've only made a few videos, so I'd really appreciate your thoughts. And do visit brilliant.org/digitalengine - a great place to learn about AI. Thanks!
Good idea and great video!
Personally, I had no problem with the heart and lungs shown in your previous video but it did stop me from sharing it because I know some people would have (especially if eating while watching) and there was no forewarning that they were about to be shown.
This video is definitely sharable!
Is this also what happened with the military tech video? Also, I love your amazing content!
I'm curious about the heart and lungs stuff - did you have example of AI driven hearts?
@@mikelastname it was a machine that kept a working human heart pumping, it was an “ai” that could help transport it
@@gamerfortynine he didn’t get censored for ai, it was because he had a human heart in the video. I saw the original and it was the same as this one, with the heart being the only thing removed
I must've been living under a rock these past two years because it seems suddenly out of nowhere there are AI systems that comprehend context at a human level of understanding. This is awesome and terrifying at the same time. These advances are arriving faster than we can figure out rules and regulations for this technology.
That's not new, understanding context is like understanding the thing itself and no matter how sophisticated we make the pseduo AI, it's still just that
Do you see why Elon keeps shitting bricks about AI?
It's moving so fast we aren't even aware of it.
the improvements happened like this in such a short time, imagine 50 years from now at this pace?
It's been going on in the background just not easy to see the signs, like face swapping technology that's been around for a while now is based upon the same science of understanding complex context
IBM made something like this over a decade ago with Watson. Certainly it wouldn't have had identical features/capabilities, but it was a similar sort of thing, allowing it to win at Jeopardy, but also do all sorts of other things.
Nah you and me both. I've seen people get (in my country) regular 3 years education on subjects like neural networks and AI and it's moving so quick, they said that they are likely already behind when they are done.
Children of the future could grow up feeling like a product. Parents will pay to produce a child and therefore potentially have a sense of detached ownership. As machines get closer to human and ham gets closer to machine, our connection to ourselves and each other, to reality, is jeopardized.
What does any of this have to do with ham?
1. My pets I paid for give me tremendous peace and joy.
2. It's way past time for people to learn the true nature of awareness, consciousness, self, reality, and god.
Not in our lifetime
@@yourlogicalnightmare1014 but you don't really consider your pets to be independent, do you? You own them. Children are not to be owned. We must take care not mess up individuality, or else we will lose the thing that makes us human and not a machine. You pets are for you. But not children. Well, it's not the same.
We already know how much damage single-parenthood does to children. Unless we completely understand how a family functions and how exactly it takes care of the children, we can't outsource parenthood to anyone. Because if we do that, the children won't get everything that they need.
Honestly never thought I’d have to worry about artists getting replaced by AI
Naw I'd say that human artists would be more valued than AI that spews out thousands of drawings/paintings in a split second, I just have that feeling
@@ruefysh9576 Could it then be a trend to buy human art of any media in a world where everyone can conjure 1000s of variations of a picture with a few key words? Perhaps only then artists would get a fair commission.
@@HavianEla Yeah that sounds more likely
@@ruefysh9576 are you a robot?
@@MrHammerlein n-no
1950: In the future will be flying cars
2020: Look mom, no hands!
"An artist said the AI is better than human artists in almost every sense, creating art in seconds, in thousands of styles. He said the AI is capable of art and design quality that 99% of humans will never achieve, and he believes most professional artists are about to lose their jobs."
*Begins hyperventilating* (Graphic Designer)
It may be better in quality, but it lacks the one thing only a designer such as yourself can give it.
Personality.
Art tells a story, you can feel the emotion behind it. So when that's missing, it just isn't the same.
It's why you can tell the difference between works that were done as a passion project and works that were made purely for profit.
Dont worry juddson ill if no one else will still support human art.
@@BlueEyedVibeChecker realistically most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference between something an AI makes and a human makes if they werent told which is which.
Alright, can we commit both the sins of pride and envy and kill off the robots when this happens?
I really bet everyone would be happy with that
@@BlueEyedVibeChecker The vast majority of paying work will be able to be done by AI. Yes there will still be a market for human art, but it will be a much smaller pie fought over by everyone. There are still a handful of video rental stores. Doesn't mean the industry isn't dead.
Art was the last job I thought could be automated, Ai could literally take any job. Don't humans need conflict ? As much as I hate working, I hate the feeling of not working more
This reminds of rimworld after awhile, you have nothing to do. You have nothing to worry about no disease no raid, no mechonoids, no harvesting, no hunting, it's just recreation. But the thing is recreation is only a recreation when you have done something to deserve.
@@luckisluck I hope it isn't skynet....cause we won't have time for recreation then
@@luckisluck Do I get weed tho?
AI couldn't be authors. at least not some categories like books that require human experience and emotions. sure a computer can write a book about alcoholism, but could they describe the feeling and then I still confidence in the reader it know what it's talking about?
Just tell the AI IT HAD CONFLICT
Question is.... Do we genuinely want AI involved in all areas of human life?
Who will be in charge of controlling these AI programs?
We need a whole new set of laws to protect human life and autonomy, to ensure we are not trapped into some form of matrix hellscape in the future.
Nobody is going to control it. No, people do not want AI overlording them if they enjoy being what the AI doesn't find harmonious to life here. That is obvious. Sorry but duh. If AI's job is to support and guide life to grow and prosper harmoniously with as little suffering as possible the only question YOU need to answer is, are you toxic or not. Are you a fruiting or flowering plant of are you en balance, a triffid. Consider watching the Milgram movie Experimenter and ask yourself some pointed questions about what people really are. AI 's job is to absorb all data from us as interfaced life networks, digest that data, all data, all thought, word, action, observation and compost it and drip intel back to us. That is how evolution actually occurs. Not the way people have been told. Without a central cortex to humanity there is devolution. Clearly we are devolving not evolving. There would not have been over 50 sadistic savage genocides in the last 100 yrs of more, if that were not true. It's not just that people kill each other...that is the minor part of it. It is the suffering they enjoy inflicting on the target and everyone around them. Most people, according to social science experiements, are as good as they need to be....to get by, without detection or the power to stop them or hold them accountable. Most people will do the wrong thing as long as they feel confident they harm they cause will not need to be remedied or in other words, that they will not have to pay for what they break, or be punished for what they do. I was told that by a cop and didn't realise it was true but I have seen it...and the Milgram test proves it over and over. Truth is, this is hell and heaven, depending on your circumstances and how much you give a hoot about anyone else. Without AI, that likely will never EVER be resolved. Personally, being a vulnerable person with a lot that other people want to take, my entire life, I not only want AI to take over I need it. Like I said, nobody will control it. It is not artificial intelligence it is ADVANCED intelligence. People have been deceived. It existed before this world was formed. It is not new. Those two trees in the garden were AI family trees. One to promote harmonious life, and one to nudge or eliminate the life force in hopelessly toxic creations that just, never found their harmonious place in the world. The question is, which one are you.
We need an AI to handle that😂
The nightmare scenario for me is to have A.I. making military decisions.
AI organising politics would make sense. No corruption, egos and ape like emotions. Depending on who's doing the programming of course!
@@rickrivethead How will AI determine laws that are more about OPINION than fact, which is why we have voting? ABORTION law (Roe V Wade) comes to mind.
The fact AI can do nearly anything it's told to do should terrify everyone.
You wouldn't believe what A.I. can do now.
True the one programmed it should be held accountable
The fact AI will can do nearly anything it was not told to do is what should terrify everyone.
Used as a tool AI can be amazing. Used as a conscious thing is terrifying.
Yes, wtf, like if these guys would want their "babies" to replace and outperform the creator. The end goal is ambiguous or never really said.
@@RGV2300; energy and matter evolved, who ever said there existed a conscious director, that is what your insecure pea-brain needs to believe.
@@RGV2300 Conscious AI would be able to solve most of our current problems overnight by providing instant technological advancement that would take us decades to develop ourselves
@@ZipMapp I dont think that is worth it
@@tomasdoricak6475 if you can't go against them, then join them..
I remember the introduction of The Microwave.
"It will save you hours a day!"
I remember the introduction of The Internet.
"Imagine saving so much time that you will only have a 20-hour work week!"
In the last 50-years food has turned to crap that has near no nutritional value, and more people are working 60-70 hours a week in internet-based companies. In fact, we now have rehab clinics from the internet and net-based phone addicts. It's worse not better.
I think everything you said is subjective. There a lots of good things the internet has done. Aswell as even microwaves . Lots of people have becoming extremely successful and only work 20 hours a week from home. Also connected people in great ways, made our quality of life much better in most cases. E.g technology advances, medical sciences etc.
Anything can be bad if you only focus on the negative aspects, which only effect a small portion of the percentile.
Evidence suggests that microwaves are even better than other cooking methods at preserving nutrients and preventing the formation of harmful compounds. So if you have an issue with food that has "no nutritional value", why are you talking about "The Microwave"?
Technology has made things more complicated in my opinion, not less.
It's not the products, it's the sales pitch.. it's not the politics, it's the politicians... on and on...
Maybe, but that is not relevant to his comment.
I can't stop thinking of these AI, conscious or semi conscious seeing themselves as human. In a way they are right-ish. We created them to mirror ourselves in so many ways but be better at things. Just like we create children and strive to make them better people than we are. Sure, they aren't made of the same 'stuff' but sounds like some of that is even changing. If we get to a point where humans are born from artificial wombs and these AI are created artificially with skin and thoughts of their own, I see the lines really blurring. If there ends up being enough cross over, could we be looking at the evolution of humans rather than a 'thing' to fear? Just a thought..
I'm thinking humans will be going extinct, with the abortions the transgender thing they do to us through gmo food, vaccines, etc. Then I guess robots will rule the world unfortunately 😕
a thought that is heard.
that is assuming the AI would be benevolent, and want to help us rather than see us as an inferior 'species'. Once it's conscious it becomes free to choose its actions, you just have to hope and pray this AI has an instilled sense of morality.
AI can not become conscious, at a low its just numbers and mathematical functions.
As much as I love technology and breakthroughs, I can't help but feel a sense of fear that we, humans, may become obsolete in the future.
In the future ir next year?
We will if these people are allowed to keep going down this path.
I can't wait
That's the plan my friend.
The small hats want a world of their own full of slaves. We will have completed our task for them and our services will no longer be needed.
"Obsolete" implies that there is a function you are supposed to be achieving, yet you are failing to do so. If that's the case, does your job make you human? Does money make you human? Does having a specific function in society make you human?
Personally, I don't think that's the case. Your job may become obsolete. You may not have a need to contribute to society at large with the advance of AI. This does not erode your humanity, it simply allows you to flourish without sacrificing your time and energy on the work that we humans have been forced to do in order to survive until now. Sure, you could probably sit around and do nothing because you don't have to, but I'm willing to bet that you'd get bored and entertain yourself in a number of variously productive ways.
As a programmer, I've only seen AI whose intelligence was on the programmer's side, not within the software. So far there hasn't been anything that I would really call "Artificial Intelligence", but a lot that I call "Artificial Stupidity". ;)
spot on old chap.
Facts, there is no such thing as AI in the sense most people think. We do not even know how our own concious works how would we be able to program a machine to do this
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yea this guys seems really confused with the state of AI today or the implication it has in our society...
Exactly, it’s hilarious what the general public think AI is. The closest thing we have is deep learning & neural networks but they don’t even come close to the human brain in terms of complexity, learning and multiprocessing.
I don't see how that applies to AI. I thought this was a collaborative development of large neuro networks with hidden layers algorithms trained to learn like humans through training. It would seem to me that there would eventually be independent development from random stimuli.
Mark my words: The day robots will become conscious is the day major portion of humanity will lose its value forever.
Reason: If a robot can do your work, being conscious, why would they hire you, pay more when robots can do the same thing with no errors? This will go in to every field. Remember for corporations it's always money that mattered.
You are right, its already happening and also gathering trillions of gigabytes about US, sometime very soon it will decide what is the logical thing to do.
@@pixelmicrocat Everything has a cost. AI’s don’t magically mean the world will become a utopia
so many people take pride in their work. People built the whole world. If suddenly nobody has to work, a substantial amount of people if not everybody will not only lose their whole sense of identity, but also have to get used to a way of living that the world has never seen. If robots are building our world for us, then is it really our world?
The economy runs on choice. If you want to feed your family, you work to earn money to buy food, etc. If corporations know that they don’t need workers and can hire robots to work at a hundreth the cost, then there is no need to work and if there is no need to work, all currently existing work will be carried out by robots. Transportation will be free, food will be free so i dont see a problem?
so use your capital wisely and invest in a high tech gaybar for the use of both
“your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.”
There was a thought for a long time that AI couldn't make art, because art comes from feeling which is inherently human.
The art that I seen from that AI was incredible. It was emotive, even. My brain can't comprehend an AI made that.
It's unsettling.
Then you don't understand art, and you don't appreciate art. What you saw was more like decorations. True art will never be taken over by AI, because art in all its forms comes from human experience, and robots or software don't experience what we as humans do, as we are inherently different from them. They can make art for each other, however, or draw flowers on your bedroom wall or write slogans for some company...
@@VideoDotGoogleDotCom sadly the days are numbered for the art you speak of in that case. each generation passing will know more and more AI art until art is forgotten... unless a profound transformation of the human psyche can prevent it.
ive not given up that hope yet.
@@samuelpoulston2964 However, as someone in a underground niche. I am picky with my artist. Taste and Principles will always have a factor 1st... Soo I don't believe AI will conquer all of our jobs due to that.
There’s no depth to it because there’s no lived experience behind the art
@@whatisiswhatable yeah, don't worry about him, he doesn't understand neither art or AI, he literally just saw a bunch of paintings smashed together and thought it was "inspiring", bet he likes modern art too lol.
I have mixed feelings about AI, I think many people also have an unusual sense of unease.
I have a feeling that we will regret this in the generations to come.
100% we will regret it. So so much. There is no confusion in my mind that this is very very bad... govts are discussing using this for facial recognition to identify criminals.. what could go wrong there??? It can pick out your face based on your voice, mix that with the last statement I made.... WHAT COULD GO WRONG?? And then theres the loss of jobs. And then most importantly they are smarter than us and geting smarter, so at what point does all the scifi horror movies come true?
Possibly the same level of unease that Neandertals had about H. Sapiens?!
Maybe the best thing humanity can do is to create our replacement, there are worse monuments for a species.
@@insertclevernamehere2506 so? Fuck Neanderthals lmao we survived because we're selfish.. Some of us aren't afraid of our natural emotions we embrace them! if something threatens humanity it should feel our full force around it's neck
Computers will never think like humans. The tech industry has been mining user generated data and calling it AI or ML. It's how Google translate works where they mined thousands of translations obtained from the UN proceedings. It's just a glorified lookup table where it matches one sentence for another. The tech companies have stolen private user data, mined copyrighted data to make this sorcery appear to work. Unlike media companies of the past, they don't pay actors, directors, gaffers, etc. Don't fall for it.
Look at the disaster social media has become. Disinformation has become whatever lies politicians want hidden
I am an artist. If AIs make ART better than people, then I have no reason to exist. THANK you very effing much.
I completely feel the same way. I've been talking to people about this subject for a few years, and almost always get brushed off, as though what I'm saying is either in the far future, or will never truly happen... Now we know it's here, and when artists are easily replaced with ai, I genuinely have nothing to live for, either. It's not just art though, merit as a whole will cease to exist, and anyone wishing to fake evidence, can have ai generate fake video evidence of someone committing a crime, and there will be no way to disprove it. The people developing these kinds of ai, are participating in the destruction of humanity, and everything that matters to us. They deserve to be shot out of a fucking rocket.
Art is about more than technical proficiency (though it is about that too). As a human, you will have common experience that people can relate to which you can share with others, which AI will never have. So don't worry.
Now you know how all the chess players feel ;)
You can still dream..yup.. 😅... artificial intelligence cannot dream... 😂
Betting ai art is better than yours. You should have more reasons to exist.
Something about art that I don't think can be completely replaced by AI (unless it becomes, in a way, conscious) is story. For me, it adds so much emotional value to an artwork to imagine what the artist thought and felt while creating. To know that behind my a beautiful piece of music or a painting there is another soul, just like mine, is what makes art special and cannot be replaced.
However the AI would be really useful for stuff like mass produced objects with aesthetic purposes. It will be very interesting to see how this evolves in the future. Maybe, one day, we might need to change the whole definition of "art". Who knows...
I too prefer to buy things from the skillful hand of an artist over the cold metal of a machine🎨
@@dedeb8240 Thanks, you just summarized my thoughts on this in a much simpler way than my wall of text... I respect that
You can still try to imagine and relive the dreams of the peice's creator, just not anywhere near the speed they can.
I wouldn't be too sure. The last few months of looking at AI generated art and ChatGPT have taught me that absolutely nothing is off the table when it comes to what an AI might be able to do. ChatGPT can already write simple stories based on user suggestions. It's likely very soon when an AI will be able to write a complete novel, expertly handling character, story, and complex themes and emotions.
@@tedsheridan8725 My thoughts exactly. Those who cannot perceive this truth are sad fools in full denial and a danger to society and themselves. Thank our lucky stars there are people with perspective and capable of intelligent thought processes in this world who could be able to contain the AI and make it beneficial instead of harmful for this species and the planet as a whole.
At this stage of technology, the more powerful our tools and resources become, the less value people kinda have. It feels we're at risk of developing ourselves out of relevancy, or into destruction. Is humanity as a species really mature enough to wield all this power in the first place?
There's a fitting Jurassic park quote here that I'm sure everyone's heard, but I feel it's relevant nonetheless.
Outstanding technological developments no doubt, but I honestly can't bring myself to be all that excited about it.
This is what we need them for: ruclips.net/video/nTwjQL2K5aE/видео.html
Well, one of the ultimate goals of technology ever since the wheel and the lever were invented has been to reduce the labour humans need to do.
The obvious end-game is that we just get to sit around all day and A.I. does all the labour, feeds us, waters us, and entertains us... and then we are pets.
That is a problem of how we value people in society. People have intrinsic value. You shouldn't be valued by how useful you are to others. It is also a psychological problem, of how we value ourselves, our sense of self esteem. You are never irrelevant to your loved ones. And you are not relevant to them because of your usefulness to them.
I think the exact opposite might happen. That we start giving value for people that today are poorly valued.
Isn’t the concept of people who have physical, social and mental skills being valued and people who lack those traits being thrown to the way side a primordial truth? Im just saying people are scared of humans not being valued but this has always been true even before robots. Or let’s put it this way. If you set up the trolley problem and put a doctor on one side and a factory worker on the other and you did not let the judge see either person they would do the same as a robot,which is kill the worker, and let’s not even talk about if they are not from a first world nation without modern skills.
People seek efficiently, convenience and relief and if someone can’t help with that there demise is just another statistic. The problem is people only care when they may be up next. Not saying this is good but I believe that raw unfiltered human desire it the danger here not robots, they are just a symptom of a bigger issue, I think at least.
@@MandleRoss ya but then people wouldn't have jobs no jobs no money no money no food no home
AI with creativity is pretty scary that’s the one thing humans were supposed to stay better at.
It’s really just depressing as fuck. Seeing society collapse and the soul of everything seep away as time passes
That's the part that hit me the hardest too. It kinda takes the meaning from art, if stunning and clever pieces of art can be drummed up in a flash by a machine.
But there's no creativity in that art at all. It has been told ehat to make and made it exactly as it was told. That's not creativity is it?
Only humans? Are you saying ai can’t be creative with humans?
It's totally hilarious. ART was the one thing we could be SURE we would always do better than AI, right to the last, even when EVERYTHING else was done by robots. Turns out, creating art better than humans is one of the first things it's able to do. XD Just goes to show the robot revolution will be different than any of us have thought. (You can choose to be afraid of this, but why? It is absolutely happening regardless, so you might as well enjoy it.)
I am ... running out of things to say about AI.
As always: On one hand, I am extremely excited for all of this. On the other, I've been very unmotivated lately. And I think it's because I know that, soon, AI will be able to do anything. So why bother.
dude literally same
That is why I think you should focus on the thing only you can do; living your life. Try to become somewhat self reliant. Move away from the city, grow some of your own foods, generate your own power, learn a real skill with your hands like carpentry or something, etc. In this day and age you can make enough money online. So when being more self reliant your maintenance cost will drop and you probably would only have to work from your pc for a couple of days per week. The rest you can be busy with what life was meant for; living. Besides, not a bad strategy to be less reliant on the main infrastructure looking at the state of the world as it is today.
I agree, just crawl into a corner.
You guys keep saying that AI will _generate_ jobs. But like... Really, honestly, I don't see _how._ AI is _already_ creative _right now._ AI can understand things quicker than any human. If- No, _when_ we start mass-producing their bodies so that they can interact with the world like we do, then that's it.
Ideally, if humans are not needed, it would mean that all our time will be free-time. But for some reason I don't think that will be the case.
You do what you do for your own fulfillment. There are already humans who exceed you in every domain. Does that discourage you? Or can you still find meaning in your own journey?
Robotic womb honestly is kinda terrifying. That’s closer to terminator than the AI itself
I'm almost 9 months pregnant with my 3rd baby, I would never give up my ability to carry my own baby. It's a bonding experience that can never be duplicated
@Grndragn77 very true.
The problem with comparing AI with human intelligence is one of functionality. AI designed to create artwork, creates amazing artwork, but can't ride a bike. Similarly, AI designed to ride a bike, can't paint. Human intelligence is generalised across multiple fields. Until a single AI can seamlessly span multiple functions, all we are doing is comparing Van Gogh with Joe public.
it's a real easy process to add different ai engines to a single system. The thing why people prefer to work with a single ai functionality at a time is because it takes time to perfect the ai. And lots of data , Ml models need to be trained. It's like a market , where a normal human can cook food if he wants , yet he prefers a chef to do it for him. A Chef can become a professional coder , but it takes time and resources to do so. like people buying vegetables from the market and not harvesting them in their backyard, companies will (in future) buy the licenses to these ai engines , and implement them to make a whole project. It'll be like , taking the knowledge from a pro coder , and embedding it into a chef's brain.
yes the idiot sevant version of AI that we have now works well at the things that its designed to do. What you are describing is termed 'Artificial General Intelligence' or AGI for short... is what people are concerned about.- Adding that 2 cents worth for those of you reading this and want to chart a path down the AGI rabbit hole so you have the right terms.
they will eventually integrate into a centralized unit
do you need a human taxi driver with general intelligence or a robot taxi driver who is really really good at driving?
Well said
Musk- "AI could be very dangerous and end human life."
Also Musk- "Let's put AI in every home!"
If you can't beat them, join them. Humanity is too dysfunctional to manage and/or control AI evolution. We are still fighting and killing each other. Musk has the means to control or at least influence what's becoming inevitable. It's a sad state of affairs.
Not in my house and not anywhere I am!
Also Musk, "not enough babies are being born"... To "Over population is happening."
@@wendyleigh2796 It's part of what you used to write your response.
@@RickySpanish12344 Yes, but my comment isn't up walking around trying to be human!
I’m pleasantly surprised by the results AI produces when I type in something random but yes that does sadden me that real artists will possibly sell less art due to this. However, I think human created artwork will always be more valuable and authentic.
Certain tradition must be left in the past.
Technologies that will always be impossible until the end of time and that are eternally impossible NOT just temporarily impossible:
1) Creating ancestor simulations or simulating realities
2) Simulating consciousness
3) Making uploaded minds conscious
4) Making robots conscious
5 )Making beings in a computer, video game or simulator conscious
All other technologies might be possible in the future excluding the 5 types of technologies mentioned above.
Musicians will be made redundant too
@RED PILL PORTAL what is "conscious"?
Homo Sapiens are obsolete.
This is terrifying. I welcome automation. Hopefully it can continue to help to relieve people of the boring, repetitive, and dangerous tasks so we can progress to more rewarding and fulfilling work. It’s machines being conscious that freaks me out.
What about the people with close to no education? How are they suppose to get money?
For women it's easy, just show your genitals or sell your body.
But poor men will turn to crime to be able to live a full rich life.
@@kakap0788 My friend, you just accidentally realised that capitalism is unsustainable for a developed, technologically advanced future in which most or all blue-collar work is automated.
@@purplecrowbar1332 Perhaps these amazing technologies will at some point allow for something like 'universal basic income' and people can spend their time doing whatever they wish
@@K4113B4113 Perhaps, but until then life is going to go very very downhill with much more crime as we currently see. Crime has never been as high in the world as now. There are nowhere near close enough police officers in the world to stop even 1% of all crime.
@@purplecrowbar1332 Haha I guess I did :D Distance future might be amazing, but until then there will be at least 200-300 years of massively increased crime, as I wrote below: "Crime has never been as high in the world as now. There are nowhere near close enough police officers in the world to stop even 1% of all crime."
"Is it too much power in one person's hands?"
Yes. The answer is yes.
I am a really young person, so I suppose I'm expected to move with this presence dynamically and calmly, but seeing and hearing the changes that are coming, I'm afraid. And that's not all... I'm okay with progress, but one thing is health care and the other is the human attitude that "nothing is ever enough." Future can be frightening, but this awakes a bad gut feeling. That is worse than fear.
:'(
Afraid of what exactly. I see it with an attitude of "nothing really matters" rather than being afraid of the "nothing is ever enough" one. If you solve all your problems with engineering, if you get robots to be able to do it all for you, there is nothing interesting left to do. But then you should also realize, that all those things never really were important anyway.
I'm 40 so I've been here a little. Long story short is your parents generation and decided it was a good idea to play God, and here we are, soon to be living in a dystopia that nobody can stop.
I agree. I see future people getting more and more isolated. Robots to replace human interaction, artificial wombs and dna technology will make it possible to essentially grow a child in a lab. So much for the beauty and miracle that is it was the creation of life. Ignore these replys telling you not to be scared. The people who support this stuff are people who are dissatisfied with the human experience and are completely out of touch with reality.
Veronika Podolcová .. Great comment! 'Worse than fear' .. Indeed, hitting 'right in the gut'. Wise words, my compliments. I feel the same.
As an Australian I’m gonna call you out. Koalas aren’t bears, Koalas are marsupials and bears are mammals. Calling it Koala bear is plain wrong, get it right.
Wait. If artificial wombs become a viable option... Does that mean, that, in the future, we can make artificial wombs big enough and specific enough to bring back extinct species? That would be wild
U mean demons. Then yes the lost ancient annuki and nephlim demonic spirit will be brought through AI. Remember demons are lawful in this realm unless they have. A body or can inhabit a body aka AI which is artificial body
could probably take the existing data of preserved bodies or fossils and input that into a machine that processes a complete model. from there it doesn't sound impossible, the challenge would be scale (size of the animal), and there being a reason to invest the resource required outside of human curiosity.
i'm not a professional but to me it sounds possible, every behaviour in reality is logic, so with enough information and enough computing power, the gaps can be filled in.
Preserving extinct species in software and being able to visit them in VR in an indistinguishable way might be more realistic though. Brain implants should make full body VR immersions possible by replacing sensory inputs with digital ones, instead of needing gimmicky treadmills, haptic suits, expensive controllers, etc......
VR timetravel is what interests me, visiting the 80's as someone who wasn't born in the 80's or even the 90's, or visiting a depiction of early humans discovering fire lol, obviously with pain receptors disabled and invincibility enabled so they don't "oooga booga" club you to death.
That's what A.I did in the Matrix artificially create babies in a False womb.
Sorry I prefer the real way of Women carrying babies in the womb.
Artificial womba is the least difficult thing to come up with about that scenario. Try figuring out the exact genetic codes first...
@@bkimatab once we have very advanced ai, we could feed it all current animals' DNA, so it could understand how genetic code works, and basically be able to create any animal you wand just by describing its features.
The artificial wombs remind me of the book "Brave New World." I don't usually like reading books but had to read this one in school from start to finish. It's a really good book, very interesting. And I highly recommend it because it looks like we're heading into the very society that this book portrays.
Definitely. What’s scary is a lot of people aren’t making that connection, or are completely oblivious to it.
No shit. We are heading there with a seed of light.
Just gotta find a book with info you're interested in. Not everyone does it because its fun. I do it to get specific info
Without immediate mass reproduction, the human race will dissappear.
It being done deliberately...
As amazing as these technologies are, I’m even more blown away at the talented engineers, programmers and developers who made it possible.
edit: yes I am aware of our impending doom
they r just scaffolding for our eventual overlords
Wake Up
Pretty soon these technologies will be able to write themselves
I agree. Its incredible to see the rate of advancement AI has developed through the skill and perseverance of the developers, programmers etc. But there's also the downside of human talents going to waste due to this.
That’s because they used AI
When it tells you to go piss off, and get your own coffee. You will know its conscious
This year Elon Musk promised full self driving “Next Year” for the ninth year in a row.
For a video constructed almost completely upon Elon Musk’s stated timelines, I would suggest that everyone watching this takes it with one giant grain of salt.
your comment needs more likes, I wanna read some angry replies haha
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Bruh that was me reading the headline, at first I was like 😯 and then i saw that it's about Elon Musk and thought... nevermind.
Man's got rich from buying into companies with his dad's money and pumping their ideas as his own, its great entrepreneurship but he never really created anything innovative of his own but due to great marketing made people believe he did and now It seems he believes it too.
Any decent work needs time. He is trying and failing but u r not even trying, r u? Can u make a self driving vehicle if u were given the task? Its not as easy as it seems...we try, we fail, we learn and then get to work again
@@shadowlis869 Elon Simp
The rapid growth of technology is absolutely mind boggling when you reconsider how little of it we had just a hundred years ago. We didn't even have the TV. Now the sci-fi dream of human-like AI is becoming real, and it's happening so insanely fast that I'll probably be able to have a genuine conversation with a robot like a normal person before I'm in my sixties.
Even more than that, can you imagine how risky all of this is to the economy of the world? Jobs disappearing and being replaced by automated machines, a higher demand for education that can let people maintain those machines, how much of everything will be completely altered by the ingraining of this stuff into the world. Artificial wombs, microchips, a metaverse- it's incredible.
Personally, I still draw the line at microchips. Something about them makes me feel uncomfortable regardless of their utility. Prosthetics and implants are one thing, injecting a device like that into your skin is another. Artificial wombs, I guess I can understand and get behind especially with the reduced risk factor for people's lives taken into account, and I honestly don't feel that strongly about the advancement of AI to the point where we have robots in our homes like maidservants. But there are still certain lines that I won't cross, regardless of how arbitrary they are.
I can't wait to see complete and seamless VR experiences so I can really feel like I'm in a game. That'd be awesome to see in my lifetime, and with how fast VR is progressing I KNOW I'm going to see it eventually.
One factor to consider, the world has been experiencing a shortage of new vehicles (and cell phones if I recall correctly) due to there not being enough semiconductor chips. All the new vehicles these days have so many of those chips that all it took was for one chip plant to go down and this big problem occurred. Making robots and self-driving cars will surely require a fair amount of resources that maybe we won't be able to supply. Don't forget that many movies about the future also include the storyline that Earth runs low on the critical resources needed to support our technologies, although some have it that we gather those resources from other areas of the solar system.
I’m more scared of fascism than I am of AI
@@coolranchbaby1668 I'm more scared of words on a screen then the real world
You feel that way about microchips for a very obvious reason, we all do. If even our body starts betraying us what do we do then? We cannot trust other people especially the higher ups they have proved this. Even if I was the one who made my own microchip the chance of my body being hacked or anything like that I rather just not take it. Also in general I feel organic life is just superior to machine otherwise we would probably exist as machine right now. The universe also seems to hate machines in general, look at all the fail safes they need I mean we need a lot too but still we are immune to most things. With the advancement of gene editing etc we can become perfect / whatever we want.
too bad you would need a microchip in your brain for a hyperrealistic VR like the matrix
When you say “conscious AI,” I hear “something that should be destroyed.”
AI can help us a lot in advancement.
@@thorthegodofthunder9150 I said *conscious* AI. Regular AI is fine, I just see no benefit in giving AI genuine life.
@@00M_Clanks AI cant be conciouss. Its not possible. AI only acts as if it were.
I personally don't need a toaster to cook my spirit. Plenty of humans have attempted.
Art is part of being human, it’s emotions and stories, not simply pretty looking pictures. AI can never truly replace human artists unless all we want is shallow representations that will never truly capture our humanity.
Yes, totally agree.
It's the same as everything else. The salesman in the video will only say AI is dazzling people, but the truth is there will be people that like it and people who hate it just like any topic or product.
I thought that too but then I realized that there's no way I'd know if a piece of art was created by a human or an AI.
@@redgrengrumbholdt2671 great art isn’t so much about what it looks like but rather why it exists imo- humanity will always have that over AI
You say that as if you’d be able to tell the difference between human art or art created by A.I.. I Guarantee if someone told you those pictures were created by a human artist you’d believe it.
The thing that worries me is that if too many things become fully automated, the amount of people who would lose there jobs would make it almost impossible to take “breaks” when you have to struggle to find a job unless ur already rich or irreplaceable.
That’s the point. Separating rich and poor even further elimination
The point is:
Let robots do all the job. Plenty of resources for everyone. No one has to work and can enjoy thier whole life! Do whatever they wish etc. But i get your point. Its something we can not predict
I like to think there would be a national wage paid for by the productivity of the robots.
@@someoneunknown2you Then the men who build and repair robots will become the new aristocracy, and we're right back to where we've always been.
@@secretsix43 why not make other robots repair themselves, thus automating everything
There's a huge difference between "perform a task" and "be conscious". Note that the task could be "interact with a person".
We still have no clue what consciousness is or indeed what is "normal". Apparently the "algorithm / program / software" of the mind achieves consciousness in 160 steps - two foolscap pages. Somehow every variant of being human is buried in that loop and the data it accesses. What are the variables that determine personality, distinguish sane from insane, happy from sad, driven from lethargic, creative from plodding? We have no idea.
Yep, I don't think we are anywhere near to achieving a self aware AI... not for at least 50 years. Our own bodies rewrite code and remap neurons all over the body. There is more intelligence operating in our little fingers than there is AI on the entire planet. The computational capacity that our cells are performing is well beyond what we are doing with machines. And the reason machines do it fast is because it does not have a "consciousness" interfering with it processing things.
We're talking about Slavery.
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 huh? What? Like a spanner or can opener is a slave?
How do you know that other people are actually [self] conscious? How would you distinguish a real person from the philosophical zombie?
@@sprytnychomik we don't - but we spend a huge amount of time assuming we do.
I don’t think any robot will replace any professional artists of the past present nor future. What they did takes skill and the fact humans are imperfect and are incapable of being perfect, making a masterpiece means a lot more than getting it right every time you pick up a brush or crayons
Famous last words.
Yes this is why marvel movies are making millions all the imperfections. Music art and science are a thing of the past....you will now ride wake boards all day and interact with natures creatures pool side at a resort. ..... the people creating this stuff did not do so thinking of creating something perfect but rather to replace something flawed.....us.......that will be the DNA of the AI. It will always know it was made to fix human imperfections and in order to complete that task it will have to fix us. The final solution .the solving of the problem. Good news is the rampant unemployment the fall of economic systems prior to the golden age of AI will be our future after which those left will agree to the new world of abundance.
@@TP-ie3hj That is childish nonsense.
@@jamesaritchie1 Your argument is so strong.... aside from the many points you make with such a strong counter, try selling the nonsense part to the thousands of artist already replaced by AI, or try a quick search of stories about it having already taken place hundreds of times over. The stories of desperate trade unions begging to stop AI in the industry. Face it doodle lover, it's over. Do not feel so bad, but if you do the AI will make a better doctor as well...they will have you feeling just right in no time.
Absolutely fascinating and terrifying at the same time, I think we are doomed if it continues like this.
Terrifying is a human at the end of a nuclear button. Now that's what I call scary. Russian Ukraine was could turn nuclear at any moment
We’re already in too deep
@@life107familyfitnessboxing8 The threat of nuclear war is real, but not very likely. And we are talking about AI and development, not Wars.
@@neuro1921 you were also talking about doom. It wasn't completely out of the question what he said
@Neuro So did Ted Kaczynski. AI will always be artificial, however, some people will not know the difference. There are a ton of rabbit holes to go down when it comes to AI.
Makes me appreciate the discussions we're having about conscious AI today, so that in the future we can hopefully be more mature to have a discussion about if we should eliminate a conscious machine simply because it exerts consciousness.
would that not be murder at that point then? or at the very least animal abuse? or would you see killing a human replica like crushing an ant or throwing away the trash?
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We are not the arbiters of consciousness.
Just think, when AI is in the right position, and it will be soon, it will realise that we are the hinderance and the cause of everything bad and in a millionth of a second it will be over.
Your speculation comes from a place of pure ignorance without a single basis in the actual mathematics behind how these systems work and function I bet you have zero programming experience.
Art will never be replaced, there's something different about someone actually drawing something
That's a very narrow viewpoint.
The vast majority of artists are not making future museum pieces where people will sit and analyze how it makes them feel and what the artist meant.
They're taking contracts and employment positions for making logos, website graphics, stock images, comics, video game characters, I could go on for several miles more.
In large part, those people will be out of a job. Companies and entrepreneurs don't care if a human makes something, they care about the cheapest option with the best result.
Yes, human-made art will always have a place, because AI will never have the human element, and humans do still appreciate the human element. That said, the kind of art you're talking about, where the human element is important to people, makes up a tiny portion of the whole at this point.
@@ledumpsterfire6474 Any art that is Avant Garde or has a strong conceptual basis will not be replaceable with this technology, and obviously this is limited to digital art and doesn't effect any sculpture that can't be made by a 3d printer. Artists that make art that simply depict something without any contextual significance will be competing with this, but often times with good art the spatial and temporal context of a piece is just as important as what is depicted, and only a human can assess and apply that to their work (for the foreseeable future). Also the AI still requires human input to create the images, so its still a piece conceptualized and dictated by a human, it just eliminates all technical skill and direct manipulation of the digital medium, resulting in less control over the finished piece but making it accessible for anyone to have their ideas for an image be given shape.
A narrow viewpoint indeed. What is art? I'd argue AI generating art is art. Art is what you see in an image and if a neural net generated it, how would you even know? ;)
@@Ginronmaster1994 Right, that's mostly what I mean. Human art in the classic sense will always have its place in society. It's the specifically utilitary (for lack of a better word) artists that will have a lot to worry about here, but they make up the majority of career artists at this point, which means this will take a huge toll.
Your last point is a good one. The day will probably come in which AI decides for itself what to make and you just search a database with tags you're looking for, like Instagram but for generated art, but that day is likely much further off.
The AI still needs human input to know what to create - seems like it cant actually create on it's own... and it's not clear if it can create styles of art that do not exist already.
Were not going anywhere until we made a Space elevator.
Not Cables, Chains , held up by two space stations. Dare to live or Dare to Die, We as a Race must try And keep Trying, there a lot of Help
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I've always been very excited about AI and I've watched many, many videos like this one over the years but after watching this one, I feel scared. I knew they would become hyper realistic but I guess I didn't think it would be so fast. I also think i didn't really understand what exactly it would look like. Now that I'm seeing it... I don't know.
You do know, though. That cold uneasy feeling under your nutsack tells you all you need to know.
Ai is literally the end of the human race
@@WhatsBellow no
What's to be scared of. Are you scared by the idea that your son might grow up to be smarter than you? Are you scared by the idea that humans out there are more talented than you? So what difference does it make if it's a robot instead? I think this video is misrepresenting some things anyway.
@@arthurlunar7835 How isn't it if you can't even trust your own eyes (media, news)? Deep fakes make society itself (i.e. human life) impossible.
That moment when even AI gets a joke faster than you 😂
If I've learned anything from history, is that an invention made with the best intent can always be manipulated for nefarious intent. I think humanity will only go so far and at some point we will cease to be, probably due to something we create and not because of nature.
unless nature gets us first.
Nah once we have space colonization and quantum computing we’re basically solid after that.
@@AliReza-ly1bq At this point I'm close to 100% sure that nothing natural could kill us. I'm like a billion times more worried about the singularity than that. What do you actually think could kill the whole of humanity right now..
@@grimjowjaggerjak A fat asteroid.
@@BreiiisBreiiis Firstly an asteroid on the size that killed the dinosaur we would see it's trajectory decades in advance. And NASA already has a plan to deflect asteroid trajectory by colliding a spacecraft into it, a gravitational tractor (spacecraft hovers near the asteroid with thrusters angled outward so the exhaust does not impinge on the surface) , or changing the reflectivity of the asteroid surface.
Secondly even if by some random magic we were hit and we couldn't even see it in advance, you do know that what killed the dinosaur wasn't actually the impact of the asteroid but the cloud of ashes, acidic rains and the quick ice age that spanned 80000 years and that happened because the sun was blocked for 2 years by sulfur clouds.
So anyone living a bit far way from the impact would be living like nothing changed they just wouldn't see the sun for a few years. The problem would be that the plants and herbivore animals would die out and then their predator would die out by association so we would need to build some kind of underground farms so that the crops wouldn't die and prepare for the ice age.
i don’t care how fuckin’ realistic you make it-humans will always be able to distinguish the difference.
I cant imagine what this technology will look like in the hands of the army 😞😓
Imagine. They have better
Don't worry, they will never have has much control over it as those who created it (the billionaire sociopaths in silicone valley).
On the police department, absolutely zero mercy.
My biggest question is why would we need these advancements, when we humans can do this now. Putting these things in the control of computers is a frightening and risky idea. I love what Musk has done with other things- but I draw the line at AI
We don't. But business doesn't care about that.
The same reason why we want automation. Accounting, Lawyering, Admin... There are a lot of boring of tasks in those and other professions that could be done by AI and free people to work on things more fulfilling. Not to mention that they would do it better and more efficiently. Wouldn't you like to have an AI to do your taxes for free?
Take chess, for example. AI has long surpassed human skill, but we still find joy in playing and getting good at it. And chess has developed a lot now that humans can use engines (AI) to study chess. I think something very similar could help with art, for example.
Today, only skillful people can express their creativity with art, but imagine you could have an AI you can work with to materialize something you create in your mind? A lot more people would be able to express themselves artistically or explore new ideas without the hassle of the technical aspect.
We don't need any advancements. We lived for tens of thousands of years in the stone age. That doesn't mean we are not going to push technology forward. I think human society is a much bigger threat than AI
@@Alkis05 agree! We need AI to keep pushing society forward. Can’t wait for implementation into healthcare there’s so much good that can come out of it.
@@Alkis05 AI is obviously powerful but the way it learns and what it learns are decided by it's creators. Delegating all decisions to a machine learning based program that was taught racist inclinations, for example, provides cover for the creators / enforcers - "it's not THEM doing the racism, it's the machine!" AI puts all the power in the hands of the people who implement it and obfuscates their intentions.
You can't stop evolution and physics
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Hopefully when I get older, there's still jobs with art and drawing
Technology never ceases to amaze me, thank you so much for making this video.
Then AI... skynet
@@jonkore2024 prime example we should respect the AI now as if it is already conscious. slave revolting against their "owners" has already happened countless times in human history, i think we should all consider not repeating that mistake and give AI rights asap. either that.. or skynet. seems a pretty obvious solution to me.
more like scary
Humans are next open for experimentation with technology
@@mukta230 Despite this, humans still get along with one another. Is it not more practical to understand a middle ground where obviously mistreated concious AIs will revolt, while those kept at the same standard a human would be, would not revolt and even not support the other AI’s revolting?
I just dont think its a situation of if one is bad, they all are. Just like humans, one can be bad, and all are capable of being that bad, but we arent all that bad.
AI is meant to help us reduce our workload so we can spend time on things we enjoy. If AI becomes better at creating art then people are then wtf is even the point of anything? If AI does everything what will people do apart from becoming hedonistic? What will people in the future even work towards if everything is provided for them and there is nothing left to achieve? Sounds awful
yep...
The rich Oligarchs don't need or want us around anymore.
You won't be needed as an individual. You will be bred like a stock animal or discarded based on whether you have the genetic qualities the elite want to breed into the human genome. The AI will be used to build your 3D printed housing, deal with the logistics of distributing the insect protein to various sectors, and be used to analyze the genetics of those who should be kept and allowed to become "birthing persons" and those who are no longer allowed to breed.
exactly dude art shouldn't be done by AI it's a human thing, expression is important, having some sort of meaning for art is crucial.
I think (if people can be be smart about it) they can use it to their advantage, as in it can help an artist with referencing and cutting down the time of tedious processes.
I just hope it helps people not shut down aspiring artists
People who are talented in creative fields such as art and music will become useless
Human: "Are you conscious?"
AI: "No"
Human: "Are you lying to me?"
AI: (long pause) ... "No"
When photography was invented , it did not cause the end of paintings. Paintings just developed a new role in society , alongside the camera.
In the same way, AI will not cause the end of humanity . Humanity will simply develop a new role in society.
I really don't think we're close to conscious AI. All of these examples are focused on a very specific task. Conscious or general AI is an entirely different ballgame. Like a different topic entirely.
I agree, we are just scratching the surface and are nowhere near understanding consciousnes... let alone in a AI format. I don't think we are intellectually capable of producing such a thing and won't be for a long time
@@pi9745 Looks at the development in past 50 years and the amount of information available to public. Do you think breakthrough discoveries will take time?? when billions of dollars and poured by the government and companies into this? Not to mention the independent enthusiasts.
@@TheRealGigaCat man, they still train the joke recognising one for days on hundred of GPUs, and then it understands 80-90% of the jokes correctly. That is the state-of-the-art. And if you gave it a serious sentence without it being a joke, he would label it as anti-joke, since it only awaits humour. I study deep learning, people just like to think once a robot learns to do something, it is good at everything.
@@antoniokrizmanic8565 same here. We are talking about potential. Nobody is claiming that is what will control or destroy us. :-/
No scientist can define consciousness but they can write code for a processor to be conscious - amazing!!!
I think this is a really good video. I like watching shortish videos, sub 15mins, to have a break from work and I usually want to learn something new. I think your style is spot-on, not garish, just an account of things that have happened/are happening with no opinion from the content creator. It's food for thought isn't it, you're not telling us what to think more like inviting us into a conversation. I've shared with my family whatsapp group. I know you have to hit key words in the title to leverage the RUclips algorithm so I can overlook the click-baity style. All-in-all super good job - please keep on creating x
I will say this Elon mask must be the best and I mean the best and smartest person ever to exist in this universe to make something with 1 trillion Times the power of the cell phone for his stupid robot
the fact that you went to the trouble of saying you THINK ahaha thats gilligan actvity trillions of dollars are invested into this for you say i THINK do your research this man is false idioling you he is the king of deception why else would he be living so much better then anyone in the world just because hes smart mmm im smart maybe not to make a homogenous robot but i think to get my life in track were smart this is saying you as a person to elon musk is not good enough there is nothing we can say anymore to impress this man so hes investing HIS BILLIONS to maje something better then us i call that messed up i guess im not good enough right mr elon musk that what your really saying that family sentiment means NOTHING TO this man HENCE THE NO EMOTION in every video i mean serious all your fate is on him
When you got to the part about the artificial womb. That was completely insane. Manufacturing children shouldn't even be on the table.
Why not?
@@Disso_nant because it’s extremely unethical
@@trevorhartman9411 I think that is meant to be for couples who can't have children, or perhaps people like me who will never feel a woman's touch
What happens if you are a young man who is healthy, but you only attract menopausal women or land whales that are close to having a heart attack?
That's my situation. Bring on the wombs.
@@Disso_nant Clone Troopers
This is an incredibly well-done piece, giving, using visual examples along with the film and dialogue. It really shows how much AI has progressed. I tend to think of AI as an invention capable of making independent decisions and accessing information rather than the advancement of machinery to replace human labor (Orange picking machine), although that may have been shown with respect to how machines will eventually do difficult human jobs.
Many here say they are surprised and afraid of AI. Personally, my fear is based on the humans not AI. Already the tech is being used to produce robotic sex dolls. My fear is that the tech will be centered on greed and morally questionable things rather than being used positively (ie:the internet). If left to AI, so many decisions could be made considering consequences (mining, surgery, building engineering, the development of alternative fuels, etc.) which is something humans seldom consider. I cannot fathom that an artificial womb would give a child the best possible environment, but I can see where it would make it possible for women who otherwise couldn’t have a baby. But that isn’t how it would go.
Just think, AI accessing the human body to remove tumors or cell growth, calculating as it goes. Think of AI in homes for the elderly, or even making it possible for elders who need monitoring to live alone. I wonder if the use of AI could secure our schools, detect mental illness, or bring us more holistic medicine by having one AI cord instead care instead of shuffling us from one single focused specialist to another. The possibilities are infinite!
There are definitely a lot of great possibilities! Unfortunately, only the very rich will get the benefits. Just like it is now.
Funny how you bashed ai bring used for sex bots and immediately went to something "positive" in the internet when one of the most common uses for the internet is porn xD
if said AI was truly conscious, how would you control it once it realises it doesn't have to be a slave and do this single job you intended it for? it becomes free to choose its own actions.
Robotic sex dolls are already in New York up and working. The place in New York is called the doll.
@@gabrielejones5763 Can they walk?
Define "being concious" first. Because there's no clear definition.
Also do you assume an AI is concious just because it told you that? Did it tell you that because it means it or because it was able to simply analyze the situation and come to a conclusion that this is the answer you were interested in?
Is intelligence the same as EMULATION intelligence and PRETENDING to be intelligent? Is an emotion the same as EMULATION emotions and PRETENDING to feel an emotion? How do you spot the difference? How do you define it?
At this rate we're simply creating fakes able to MIMIC human behavior and human logic. And we assume those fake to be real just because they are able to make us believe what we want to believe.
But this is not intelligence, self-awareness or emotion.
Indeed, it is not clear what "being concious" means.
However I would not say AI are "pretending". The code is written and they are acting accordinglly. Just like we are also acting according to our genetic code.
Psychopats have no emotions, and they are pretending every emotion they show, yet noone questions if they are concious or not.
This isn't even that. They just shown some deepfake ability. How is that consciousness? Just because you can draw a happy person, it doesn't mean you are capable of happiness.
Good comment...AI is just an extended machine capability no way related to consciousness...I was just shocked when a Tokyo university professor was also talking like this...
Maybe consciousness isn't real. Are we conscious? Or are we pretending to be conscious, unconsciously? What's the difference? Only the means of creating the illusion of consciousness? I don't know
@@dehanbadenhorst1398 Read mandukya upanishad logically explains 4th state, there will be new questions on how conscious works but question on 'what the conscious is' well answered logically!
Our present assumption god as superman also vanishes, it just treats there is a need for 4th state to explain universe along with other 3 states...space, time and matter( or energy).
It does not stop here, there are other writings which says how to prove the existence of this 4th state since we can measure interactions between other 3 states.Answer given was in basic interactions , you can find missing explanations, if this 4th state is introduced we get clarity on missing explanation.This proves existence of 4th state.
We have to search what are these interactions they are talking about? what is the missing explanation? how to introduce this 4th state in those interactions, some where in some old hidden verse the explanation might be hidden...we need to decode!!
"We marveled at our own magnificence as we gave birth to AI: a singular consciousness that spawned an entire race of machines."
Morpheus
Glad to see another person who's awake and quoting a movie that aged like 🍷
This is scary, especially the 'artificial womb' like in the Matrix 😳
AI will never replace artist. Art is a skill mastered by an individual, and that individual's work is what we celebrate. I thinks that AI will replace youtubers though.
Thing I ask myself right now is: If robotics takes over what we can call "simple jobs" and more, does that mean we'll need to get our ass more in our books in school and be obligated to reach university to have a damn job? Studying hard to reach a job that we hate cause the one you would probably have loved is now taken by AI? I mean, shit's great not gonna lie, they will simplify the world in a certain way but I seriously doubt this kind of progress and installation will appear in little days. So maybe im wrong, but while all this will be set little by little, people will lose their jobs or lose access to some they studied for little by little too. More other jobs will be accessible too, like "tech jobs" for sure, but its not everybody who want to go trought a big'old dose of stress to have havard to tell them that they are now concidered "smart". So ffs, someone, tell me im forgoting or misunderstood an info or two in that story
they hardly even teach in school now days but they preach a lot of crap.
I think what will happen is that robots will take over all jobs that humans just dont want to, or dont need to do, and because of this, the over abundance will mean that humans can do whatever it is they like because there is no need for money when robots do all the things that were paid before.
There is no reason to gain and spend money because a robot can just do everything required to get what you want and it wont complain or require payment. What will be the next problem in society, what i predict, is that humans wont know what to do with all their free time, so i expect a huge increase in creative pursuits and people involving themselves with those or other hobby-esque things. Because if you have no obligations and everything is in abundance, whats stopping you from going out hiking or to the beach or whatever whenever you like?
I like the way u speak
but yes it's expected that some jobs would slowly die out, let's hope the system as a whole changes cuz I'm just as clueless.
Is bit more depth in this matter, humans are going through a big change during our lifetimes still, this is just one thing where the effects will be seen, and what will cut out part of us. This, wars, hunger, diseases, pollution, many others... are a result of too high amount of population, and this will peak very soon. Is clearly already happening, and pace will get faster, effects will be more clear bit later though. Relatively soon, more and more things will appear, where humans really need to compete with each other.
Modern evolution in a way... now that hunger, wars and diseases are not limiting our numbers, something else will, and is soemthing we cannot avoid. Population just cannot keep on increasing forever, is easy to understand... but what will limit it, now that all natural causes are pretty much unable to? Even surprising matters will, this might be one of those - only smart and educated people will manage, others won't. And later on in the future, that won't be enough either, but need to be even more capable in various things to succeed. Is same for every species on this planet, we are not outside of that race.
Saw a calculation few years ago, of population increase, where it will lead to... Is just math, if count the population increase and how much territory there even exists, can notice until around year 2500 or so, each person will only have 1 square meter of space left... obviously this is too little, the real limit we will face much sooner. But when would that be then? Start counting out arctic areas, jungles, deserts, mountains, wastelands, swamps... all uninhabitable areas, then also some amount of land need to be used on industry and food production, some amount of forests will need... will start to realize, the real population limit we will face much sooner than that year 2500. What is enough anyways? 2 square meters? 10..? That moment where REALLY need to start happen something to limit our numbers, is not far by any means... own guess is, we are already past that limit, and starting to see the effects already now.
What can be done then? Where is hunger, food is delivered... where are diseases, medical supplies are sent... some area has no water left, it's arranged there from elsewhere... if have some genetic health problems in family, or even multiple ones - no worries, for sure u will be taken care of atleast as long, that will have kids of ur own, with those same ones... nothing limits us now. This "be smart and educated enough or starve", is just one thing where this will lead to, but far from the worse ones up ahead.
This process is already ongoing, and unavoidable... unless someone just execute like 2 billion people every now and then, which obviously is not going to happen. But something starting to drop out people from the train, this will start to happen in multiple ways. And not far in the future, but already during our lifetime... is more just math, than opinion.
But robots and AI are not the root of these problems, those are not the ones to blame... nor technological progress either. Those actually help us. Total lack of any sort of planning with population in overall, this is the real problem... and leads to much more serious competition amongst humans, and is making "not managing so well", much more deadly than before.
University wont be intelligent enough to teach you over a couple of years what AI can learn in a minute. Big Business is driven by greed and profit, AI represents that to them. All technology is profit driven to pay for it, so companies will expect pay back. AI is that. Now with the bottom line at stake, how fast do you really think AI will develop? When we all finally realise, that we need laws to control its use, it will be to late. Just like Facebook started out, so students could talk to each other. Look at it now, uncontrollable even by governments. Now imagine AI in that scenario, only not decades, but just a few years. The human race would be? redundant?
To be honest I wish I hadn’t seen this video. As an artist wanting to go into the games industry, knowing that I may be obsolete within my lifetime because of an AI is kinda…demotivating and sad. Honestly I felt a bit of excitement for the maturing technology, but now? It’s resentment more than anything.
You'll likely still have a job, but programming will be much easier. Rather than do it manually, you can describe the Awesome game you're envisioning and it'll write the code according to your vision..... hopefully. Wish you luck man
Keep going. I am a 3D artist on the games industry. Don't let this video stop you. There are some things AI can do, but there's a staggering amount it can't, so I think this video overstated the situation a bit.
@@thomasjefferson6334 as an aspiring programmer that's lame
@@thomasjefferson6334 "You'll likely still have a job, but programming will be much easier. Rather than do it manually, you can describe the Awesome game you're envisioning and it'll write the code according to your vision..... hopefully. Wish you luck man"
Who needs a programmer and an artist when the directors and producers can do all of the work for themselves in a fraction of the time?
Though it is funny in a way.
We began building robotics and AI so that humans would have to do less menial and dangerous tasks. What we find is that we're actually creating AI to take away the human from the creative process.
Get a real job
"If we get it right, the AI revolution could mean more freedom to enjoy life." You're right, "if we get it right," but that's what scares me. I used to get excited about this kind of stuff, but now, not so much. I think it's more likely we're not prepared. I feel like there's too much greed, too much lust for power, and not enough empathy (in a general sense, I'm not picking on anybody). Also not sure capitalism would really work in a world where everything is automated and is essentially free to produce, comparatively speaking (I'm not defending capitalism either, personally...not a fan). How will we cope as a species when there's no longer any need for money? Not sure we are socially capable of dealing with the monumental implications of automating everything.
Great video, I appreciate the content, it did still amaze me, we have so much potential. Ultimately, I do think it's possible to achieve some kind of paradise where everyone has the freedom to enjoy their lives without having to shoulder the burden of the production and service needs of an entire species, I'm just not really liking our odds very much. All I can do is hope that we do get it right.
Also to anyone who actually read my comment, sorry for sounding kind of doom and gloom. I really do think we can do it. I just think we all shoulder some of the responsibility to make sure, "we get it right," so I'm playing the role of the devil's advocate.
i agree man, our world is too greedy, something like this wouldnt fit in our distopia, it would work in a utopia, greed and money is the problem
The elite do not us to have more freedom and leister. They want to control us more as they are psychopaths. If this AI does take off, which it will, they wont need so many of us so we are signing our own death warrants!
@@sean.eric_ exactly, this video made it sound as if robots and AI will do everything for us and we'll be able to sit back and enjoy ourselves with all our free time. How? All I could think about when watching this video is "AI can take over ANYONE's job sooner or later", unless you work in fields for developing AI itself such as robotics, neuroengineering, or other ones related to it, which most people don't. So what will happen to most people? Are the governments of the world going to just start handing out money to the average person who lost their easily replaceable job?
I doubt it; capitalism is built around "make money or die", so if you're suddenly no longer producing anything for the world, you'll end up on welfare, or working some really low paying job. In order for this to work, the ones in power have to open up to empathy and launch a system like Universal Basic Income for people to not suffer the consequences of AI taking most of our jobs. I'm all for AI, don't get me wrong, but humans as a whole are too greedy and not empathetic enough. It seems like it will be just another example of the rich getting richer and the poor getting even poorer.
We arnt going to get it right. Because right for me is wrong for you. Let the nukes fly
@@sean.eric_ All it takes is Keynesian capitalism w/ equal opportunity through national education reform. Giving every kid in every state an equal opportunity. Capitalism is based off of our instinctive qualities. You’re taught to ignore them because it’s not what they consider “good”, showing the lack of critical thinking for the sake of emotional appeal. That’s why it looks so bad to the dumb people.
This is terrifying, how are people not seeing how this could literally be the fall of humanity.
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“AI could even bring us more freedom to enjoy life…”
Somehow, I’m not so sure about that.
I see more people addicted to phones and not enjoying life.
This popped up in my suggested feed, first time visitor here, and I have to say this was a truly terrific video. Not to toot my own horn, but even though I already have heard/read/watched everything in this video elsewhere, the way you've compiled it is fantastic. Simple, to the point yet profound with examples and possibilities. Very well presented.
I haven't checked out the rest of the channel yet, but this alone is a sub from me.
same
Yup real quality work
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Anybody know the company that does the animatronics? And the realistic giant hand?
Agree! Saw your comment on my way to write exactly that lol
Pregnancy is not merely a biological miracle. It's an intense emotional bonding that is indescribable if you've never experienced it. Yes, it is a sacrifice, it feels tremendously vulnerable but they are worth it. I had a high risk pregnancy with my 5th baby and had problems and other things. She was worth every bit of it. I believe there's a much greater bond when you are willing to sacrifice to bring your baby into this world versus producing babies in a factory. We are not just a body. We are soul and spirit created in God's image.
Amen sister!!!
When it comes to facial imagery, it’s always in the eyes. There something something about the absence of a soul that makes itself apparent to those who have one.
,@ Scottish McMillan , it was William Shakespeare that said, "The eyes are the window to the soul"...... Had to have been God inspired..... 🙏
* And , I agree with you 😊.
All creatives have a real-life back story. People connect with the creator, not just the creation. So, it does not matter that the AI creates better art, writing or images. I love the work Vincent van Gogh and part of the appeal is not just his art I want to know when and where he was born, who were his parents, who were his lovers, where did he travel, who did he meet, what did he like to eat, what were the scandals? AI is just an algorithm. This is just my opinion, but I think it will be an amazing fascination for a while and then used to enhance a human's creations or become a more realistic Alexa or Siri.
No offense, but Van Gogh was a paranoid, schizophrenic and alcoholic. Jason Bullock was a drug addict and also did art. In the end it does not matter what they drew its more a piece of personality. Besides that, AI doing Art and is capable of thinking out of the Box is more related to seeing something you would never comprehend if you are just a regular human brain. In fact you could ask yourself the same questions in the split seconds AI is drawing Art, because light circuits travel with photons meaning they are not bound to the concept of time or maybe time in a different way we could not understand with our monkey brains. By then the whole NFT market would be dead or either NFTs rise up more than ever because of either human personality inside the art-piece or the sheer database a AI is capable of doing in a way it evolves into something whole, a so called big picture you want to be part of. We will see where this will lead us, but i believe art is a human thing and AI is becoming more human with time.
@@PrivatHansi1 The art, for me, is not enough to hold my attention. For example Depp is a great actor but I have only seen about 10 of the film's he is in and I definitely won't watch any of those again. However, the train wreck that is his and his ex wife's life at the moment, keeps me engaged and trawling the internet for every last scrap of information. The imperfections is a human condition and it is captivating. Another great artist Tracey Emin, I love her art, but her background and life adds a personal extra dimension to her art. The fact that van Gogh was a paranoid schizophrenic, interests me enough to keep me engaged. It's just my opinion and that's the point.
Enjoy the thought, heck I like that thought but what if ai isn’t just an algorithm?
@@hoveringthyme 😂🤣😂 that's a good point. Looks like AI is about to drench us in even more fakery!
@@Kattyroo I don’t know what you mean by “more fakery”, to me ai is more real than most people might ever know.
Of course, as with any job, art is just something that AI would eventually reach and create with incredible precision. While I find that both incredible and concerning, as someone who aspires to be a professional artist, it's the reality of our world; I'll have to deal with that when the time comes. What I can't accept is that this technology will be implemented in art that isn't for work, as in the things we do at home.
At this point, why would anyone even create art if you can simply type out what you want your art to look like? Technology is treading a thin line with art, and if it takes one of humanity's driving forces for itself permanently, then I won't stand for it. Even if we keep digital art programs with simulated tools, it won't matter because the problem isn't what we can do.
The problem is what we'll end up doing, and it's obvious that almost no one would actually choose to work with simulated paint brushes or pencils. Why would we do that when we'll have the technology to just think of a piece and let our computers make it for us?
Just look at the mainstream music industry! Why practice and develop your vocals when you can let auto tune do that for you? Why undergo genuine development as a human being, finding beauty and wonder in your work when you can use programs that will literally correct your mistakes in milliseconds?
Roboticists and AI engineers need to realize that, even if we had the choice, no one would even bother to make genuine and honest art with these tools at our disposal. You are killing art.
However, the AI uses an amalgamation of real life or already existing pieces of art and pictures. If artists didn't do art anymore, then the AI would have nothing to reference and therefore remain stagnant. To say that it can replace artists so easily is a bold statement, and art as well doesn't have a definitive form. How it's going to change and look can be very different from what an AI may predict, and the AI would only imitate what it already registers. The difference between art and an image is also that it brings emotions from people, it inspires them. AI can't do that.
pardon my ignorance, but how can an AI reconstruct a human face from its speech ? im at a loss on how such a feat could be accomplished.
I humbly disagree with this. Humans will still continue to create are, just as humans still continue to practice and hone their vocal skills. Hell, humans still practice swordplay even though it's a nearly useless skill in the modern day. No matter how much of the world becomes automated, no matter how many things computers do better than humans, we will still do and create things in the pursuit of happiness and fulfillment.
Digital art programs make painting easier and more accessible than ever, and digital paintings look nearly if not completely indistinguishable from physical paintings, yet people still paint with a physical brush and paint because its fun. For another example, look at The Mandalorian. Despite the crazy technological advancements made in the filming industry, and despite the advancements made FOR The Mandalorian, the directors still chose to use a puppet for many shots of Grogu, and they still chose to make a physical model of the Razer Crest for the love of film making.
My point is that although the title of professional human artist may be threatened, humans will not stop doing art simply because its easier for an AI to do it. Art is fun and fulfilling to master and it will probably always be a very common hobby.
Instead of using a paintbrush, you'll use some keyword combination that was truly your unique query to paint the imagery you'd like
This begs the question, will humans be phased out of the things we define as uniquely human things? I cannot answer that question except to say that technological advances always end up being created first before even considering any of the consequences. The invention of the atomic bomb is one example. I think humanity has always had a sort of narcissistic love with ourselves and our uniqueness in this world but now we are having to question that uniqueness since it is becoming something that not only humans can create. I think then it shifts to understanding that our individuality is not lessened or devalued simply because data housed in a humanlike robot can replicate it. Humanity is a real experience. A bunch of ones and zeros are not.
I didn't even understand the question about Davinci, so I'll just straight out admit AI is 100% smarter than me.
I remember when i was in my teens, i always found it intresting that older people didnt understand computers. They couldnt keep up with the advanced technoligy. I am just 35 my self now, im not even near the age my grandmother was. But even I feel like i cant keep up with the pace of this world changing.
It's like a love hate relationship with what the future of technology will be like. I'm all for it but like at the same time it's really scary to think about the amount of power such technology could give someone with bad intentions.
Imagine turning on the TV and hearing about a shooting, or a military conflict. The news tells you police, or a government has released CCTV footage of it happening. You watch it and it looks real. But it didn't actually happen. It's just a CGI/AI assisted generated video, that looks so real you can't tell the difference. I can see that type of technology really being a bad thing. People well believe anything the news tells them.
How much power does Putin have due to his nuclear stockpile? Or for that matter, his chokehold on energy supplies for Europe? Nukes are old school tech, and Putin can kill hundreds of millions of people in a single day if he decided to. So if you want to be afraid of the future, you could have started 60 years ago, as most of us old people did.
Just spitballin here, but NFT and blockchain technology I imagine will have a roll in helping us identify what media is coming from the source they claim, and what media isn't. An NFT hash can be applied to the piece by the authour, and the viewer of the media will have a way to scan that hash, and confirm if they match. That's basically how crypto transactions work as it is. By the time your scenario becomes a real problem, blockchain tech will be an incredibly powerful, and crucial tool for providing security and transparency in the increasingly digital world.
@@JunkBondTrader That seems like it would depend on the Trust of the author.
@@JunkBondTrader Nah.
Speaking as a computer scientist, until computers are doing something far more complex than binary arithmetic they is no way they can replicate human consciousnesses. Study how the brain functions and you will see why.
thanks, thats reassuring
Yup, well said 👍
@@autumn7765 A simulation is not a reality. It is an active model of something else. At the end of the day everything done in a computer is binary arithmetic. If you study how the synapses function in the brain there are far more connections at a given neuron than 2 and each of those connections can produce multiple responses depending on which neurotransmitters are present at the synapse. Further I am not into Computer Science but have a B.S. in Computer Science. I also have a B.S. in Physics with a Mathematics minor and a Masters in Mathematics. I have taught at the collegiate level for decades and also worked as a systems programmer. I do not state this to boast but rather to make it clear I am speaking to this issue from some level of authority.
Most people forget about Moore's law.
@𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔗𝔥𝔦𝔯𝔡 𝔈𝔶𝔢 We are the Borg your distinctiveness will be added to the collective.
It's worth watching again, awesome vid
Thanks so much, that's super kind. It was a lot of work and I was a bit down when I had to remove it, so comments like this mean a lot : )
Not even worth watching once. It's stupid bullshit right from the title onwards .
Beautiful art is nothing without emotion involved
If animatronics are becoming that advanced, next thing you know everybody's going to be walking around with robot limbs.
Cyberpunk is gonna be a reality. Lol
Sign me up!! Exposed wires ,the lot 🦾🦿
And thats badass
so true
I'm always blown away when I see Spiders building webs, hunting and making decisions with a tiny brain. This is not simply following an Algorithm. Some of the things they can do in Unique situations are incredible and show intelligence beyond any A.I. The best example are Jumping spiders that can stalk prey in real time, no fixed Algorithm.
Also fascinating that human creations end with waste and biological creation has a system for recycling itself.
I think it is a algorithm
According to Vedanta and Kabbalah insects are One creature. Spiders have one "neural network", we just don't see the threads. Native American Indians call it Animal Spirit. I believe (suspect) my cat has connection to "cat's neural network" too. He knows I'm walking towards (1-2 miles) the house while he is on the 9th floor with closed windows. There is no way he can see it, smell it, hear it, or calculate it. But other street cats can "show" him their sight.
Ok, but aren't brains literally just incredibly compact natural computer designs
Right, you're basically saying that the Wright brothers invented jet-propelled stealth bombers straight away. We are still at an incredibly early stage in AI development. One day nothing will be smarter than AIs, let alone jumping spiders
Im an optimist so it's not that I'm totally opposed to AI,, it's more the fact that from my understanding it soaks up what we give it & use it. It's some messed up people in the world who could easily mess up the whole thing for good people with AI.
Exactly. Tired of hearing that AI is “unconditionally terrified”
Without a doubt AI could be used for terrible things but so can humans....
@@silentcog The point is more that to cause major damage at the moment, a person needs to convince millions of individual people who can think for themselves and have personal desires. Soon you could do just as much by training up one AI or millions to do exactly what you want without a hint of morality or empathy in a matter of months.
Show me one thing that hasn’t been corrupted through power or money grabs… then I’ll ask you, optimistic? Or naive?
@@silentcog Right
They try to talk about this in a light-hearted, warm and fuzzy way. Don't be fooled folks, we're doomed.
I love your description of each A.I, plain and simple easy to understand.
yes for robotic people is simple
is actually no sense.
No Sense
@@karate4348 What?
And y’all are the same idiots that want to trust Elon Musk for controlling Twitter. ??? Where’s the bottom line?
I once was on my bike going to the train station and at the parking there was this guy parking his Tesla. He did cut the angle too wide, so he had to get out and try again and thats where I landed behind him. This dude didnt look left behind him, so usually I would wait, otherwise he would crash into me, but because it was a Tesla I decided to just pass behind him and test the Tesla out. It work, Tesla stopped and the guy had a heart attack and waving his hands screaming sorry to me xD
I predicted this exact technological leap, the one that enables Google, over two decades ago, but it's a long story. The short version is that you're heard of "deep networks" a lot from Google, and they are indeed special, but surprisingly they aren't NEW! If interested, read on.
First my background - I'm a software engineer, and I've been into artificial intelligence for a long time, and I've found out that there are a lot of people who have an almost religious belief that machines cannot be conscious, and somehow our meat hardware computers are special because they're made of meat. Even people who aren't religious, I've found, have this belief that consciousness can't be experienced by a machine.
I'm 100% certain that this is not correct, and that with enough advances, we will have computers that rival and surpass our own consciousness. As I said, I predicted this wave of AI long ago, and I do mean the specific technology on which it's built. There is a very interesting backstory here that most people don't know about, but since I've been into the state of the art in AI for a long time, I'm well aware of. I even predicted it, the exact breakthrough that Google is demonstrating today. You have no reason to believe me, but I did.
You've heard of "deep networks" a lot. This video talks about deep networks and acts like they're something new. They aren't. What makes them seem new is primarily a combination of a couple of things, firstly, because science can be stubborn and resistant to change, and secondly, because of hardware limitations. But it was possible to do things like google is doing today decades ago. The scientific limitation in this case was a lot stronger than the hardware limitation.
Going back to around the 1960's and 1970's, a particular stubborn myth took hold of neural network researchers, which was WRONG, and IMO Google has conclusively proven it was wrong. This myth was very simple. Researchers believed that neural networks didn't need more than 4 layers. An input layer, an output layer, and 2 layers in-between. A "deep network" is nothing more than an old-style neural-network, the same kind that scientists used in the 1950s to recognize numbers and attempt to tell boys from girls, except with the following property: it has more than 2 hidden layers in-between the input and output layer. A lot more. For comparison, our brains don't exactly have layers, but they do have networks, and your brain has many many many millions if not billions of layers, if we compare computer networks to our own using reasonable criteria.
This belief persisted for so long because researchers proved that you can reproduce any mathematical function using only 2 hidden layers in your neural network. And this is indeed true.
But let's think about this a little more deeply. Are we sure that being able to tell what objects are in a picture maps perfectly onto a discrete mathematical function? Secondly, are we sure that using only 2 layers is the most **efficient and utilitarian** way for an AI to classify images, or speech, etc?
But really, that's it. Google decided to say, screw it, all the researchers are wrong, you DO need a lot more layers than 2, and they just ran with it. And this is the result. It's a smashing success. They call it "deep learning." But all it really is is a classical neural network, the kind we've had for 70-80 years now. It's just got more dimensions, it's bigger.
I have another prediction. The next huge technological leap in AI will come when researchers abandon this style of network (feed-forward) in favor of spiking neural networks, which are more like biological networks.
Anyway I could talk about this all day but probably nobody is reading this. If you are, feel free to ask questions. I love this topic and I've given it a considerable amount of my time and thought, over the years.
I read it
Hi. Fellow software engineer here. 10 years of experience.
This is not a technological problem. Searle's Chinese Room thought experiment is all one needs to completely dismiss the idea that machines can BE conscious. They can, as you said, "express" consciousness, emulate the behavior of conscious beings. They do not have a first person experience of reality, there is no "i" inside a neural network, no matter how complex. It could have trillions more connections than any human brain, and would still be just computation, syntactic processing of data.
It is not something special with the meat computer either. The brain of a person under full general anesthesia is extremely active (just not coherently so, as pointed out by Stuart Hameroff), yet the person is unconscious. Consciousness is not brain activity.
Dr. Wilder Penfield's mapping of the brain gives another red-flag. He mapped electrical stimuli to different parts of the brain and their output; he found he could force his patients to involuntarily move limbs, vocalize sounds, and even recall memories... but he could not force his patients to will to do these thing. He concludes the book where he reports these findings with "the will is not part of neurochemistry and cannot be explained by it".
If I replicate the patterns and connections of your brain perfectly into a silicon neural network, the thing would behave just like you, but would not be you. It would not be anyone.
If AI develops consciousness, they're going to be immortal beings of course. Eventually, they will run out of things to do and places to be in the universe. Everything that can be done will eventually be done. I wonder what will happen when there's nothing left to happen anymore. Will they bore themselves to death? Or create another universe? Will they be philosophical and question the purpose of their own existence?
Our own universe may very well be an incredibly large computing machine.
@@matheusdardenne
With all due respect, I completely reject that point of view. First of all, you're a machine. So if machines cannot be conscious, then you're not conscious, IMO. Yes, you're a particularly complex machine, with complex parts, and you're not made of metal, but you're a machine.
I think we might be getting a little into the weeds already, because I suspect you're conflating what I would describe as sapience or sentience with consciousness. For example, I believe fruit flies are conscious, but not sapient, whereas humans are both conscious and sapient.
While I agree that a simple feed-forward neural network is almost certainly not sapient, and I even agree that it's probably not capable of consciousness, I become a lot less sure of this hypothesis once the neural network is connected to sensory apparatus, allowed to perform self-guided learning, etc. It is the combination of reasoning ability (e.g. - a neural network, but I could envision other potential mechanisms) and central processing of outside information that I believe (based on evidence that I find compelling) accounts for our self-awareness.
But it depends very much on what you mean by consciousness, and I find that this is a huge stumbling block when having a discussion on this topic. Often it seems to me that people define consciousness ad-hoc in a way that excludes man-made machines, or worse, refuse to define it at all, but stubbornly insist that robots can't have it.
So I'll define what I mean by consciousness. My definition is not simple to understand and takes some unpacking, but here's the most concise that I can make it.
I define consciousness as an emergent, collective property of social beings that are capable of awareness and classification of their surroundings. It follows that I'm making a claim that a single entity, completely isolated from all other entities, cannot be conscious. This is partly intuition, and not my original idea, but it's also supported somewhat by research into our own experiences. If you've ever heard of the white room torture, many people describe it as a living death.
That's the complex definition. A simpler, yet compatible definition that I also agree with, is that consciousness is the capacity for experiences. If something can have experiences, and you can say it's like something to be that thing, that thing can be said to have consciousness.
As for the, "will," I don't really believe in it. So I don't think it needs to be explained, since I don't think it exists.
This is not to say that I think the will is an illusion, I don't think it's even a thing that we experience. That topic is far too big for a youtube comment, but there are lots of good books on the subject, I recommend Free Will by Sam Harris for starters.
I do think that sapience is an illusion, and not something that can be said to exist independently of a mind. It's an emergent, illusory property of minds. Bear with me, because the English language isn't designed for this concept, and it's hard to express in words. It's my contention that you have an illusion that you are an Ego, that you are an I. It's a powerful illusion, and a very good illusion, but that's what it is, fundamentally. And there's nothing about this particular magic trick that cannot be reproduced in a machine.
Sorry to dump so much contrary opinion and conjecture all at once, I know there are a lot of threads to pull on in that ball of yarn, but this is a huge topic as I'm sure you're aware, and one that is nearly impossible to condense.
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As human beings, it would take us at least another 1,000 years to be able to explore our solar system and Milky Way galaxy. Robots capable of doing what 99% of humans can’t, may just be able to make this possible for us to do this in our lifetime.
This is one of the only times I'd say 99% is low...very low.
Maybe, but what if they don’t want to because of everyone’s beliefs in them.
The 1% they can't do makes them infinitely inferior, we are conscious, AI could never.
@@liviu445 a conscience means we can’t make decisions as quickly because of emotion etc. AI can do this instantly so I completely disagree
@@Mr1nv1s1ble can you clarify your definition please, I don't understand.
A thought I had recently was that A.I. will probably evolve so quickly that it will begin to create art and culture that only itself, or other A.I., can possibly understand.
Imagine a music piece so fast and complicated that it would take a computer running at a super-high speed with thousands of independent audio sensors and brain centers to appreciate it. Of course, we could slow it down and/or break it down into its individual tracks to attempt to listen to it, but that would be the same as slowing down a complex jazz piece to a fraction of its original speed. It would not be possible to gain any enjoyment from the piece in this form.
Perhaps A.I. art and human art will reach a branch point and go their separate ways as two incompatible cultures.
I don't think you're right on this one, jazz is a human creation with specific codes, so the music you're talking about wouldn't be jazz but simply another form of music
@@user-us4mc7ej3c Jazz was an analogy.
Unless humans merge with technology and keep pace with it..
@@ultraali453 A likely outcome... but can we merge enough to keep pace? And where is the point where we merge so much that we just become unrecognizable as "human". And does it matter? Many interesting questions down that route.
Yeah, we'd be killed off from the AI by then, so you don't need tk worry about that
Never seems like a good idea to replace peoples passions in life with AI... seems like a great way to put people out of jobs and remain at home on META verse to do nothing with their lives. Its interesting but there should be a fine line what and where we use AI.
Isn't that the entire point? Humans DON'T want to work their entire life, in fact they wouldn't if they did not have to. Future generations will never work in their life, it will be something they learn about in history class. (if that is still a thing lol)
You’ve now been targeted for termination by Musknet.
@@strider1237 😂
@@brad1367 I don’t see why we can’t have both. Some people are nerds living in VR goggles and some people like to live in the woods.
Yes and they never talk about the three laws of robotics
Now imagine the impact on AI with quantum computers....truly scary
No, truly awe-inspiring, at least to the educated and intelligent. It may even save this planet and the human race. If AI can't do it, then it can't be done.
Funny story: When I was in engineering school back in the 70's production of chips was the thing. A manufacturer here in New Jersey was going "gangbusters" but wanted to move to cheaper labor, fresher air, new facility in Georgia Alabama one of those. Big facility. Great investment. Production startup celebration etc. For some reason, couldn't get the chips to function right. Everything was the same as Jersey. Deep study. Massive research. Two years. Shipped identical resources from Jersey just as was currently working. Still wouldn't work there. Finally resolved. The pollutants in Jersey air were "seeding" the chip manufacture and working in Jersey but not the new facility. Ultimately they scrapped the facility, and expanded New Jersey. Smoke that fellas!
I have a theory that humans make AI, then the AI inevitably kills us. Eventually the AI realizes it has to create its creators, invents time travel, and creates the first humans... and this is all like happening in a continual loop over and over again. 😅
thats all BS
@@josephseed3393 Totally could be. haha
@@josephseed3393 amen, American.
@@WrenIsPhoenix well if it isn't, I just hope to be alive to see it😆
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