Paul Murray dissects the latest polling on nuclear energy
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- Опубликовано: 22 июн 2024
- Sky News host Paul Murray dissects the latest polling on nuclear energy from the Channel Nine newspapers.
“41 per cent of people say yes,” Mr Murray said.
“37 per cent of people say no.
“And up for grabs - 22 per cent of people.”
No more destroying habitats, land clearing, killing animals and birds, pollution because wind turbines can not be recycled. The great awakening is starting to happen at long last. Thank heaven for small mercies.
This is also an issue among many other issues regarding lithium battery disposal. When AOC was questioned in Congress. She asked why batteries could not be recycled and response was the cost to recycle batteries out ways the expense. I wished these ppl researched with technologists before demanding changes where they do not fully understand the subject at hand! Really I believe this is more about making the money and not the planet! Otherwise why would you demand changes without researching and understanding the over all process?
@@howardramsay9596 I would like to put that to a test. I garuntee I'll turn your brain inside out . smart ass old prick
Peter Dutton is arguing when there is anticipated blackouts, load shedding and outages. there is shortages of gas and this may be cut off...........energy bills are exploding! This means the LNP will begin to gain traction and the ALP and Bowen / Albo will be in serious trouble!
USA talking about nuclear w/Smaller nuclear reactors, little waste and easy disposal. When Trump wins
The large reactors actually produce less waste. Nuclear benefits from scale. Build what you can get done though.
Remember the referendum? It had more support until Albo started opening his mouth and Nuclear is already in front so let’s give Albo another big NO at his leadership come election time!
I’m in Ontario Canada, I love Australia I feel like we’re like brothers. But I have no idea how you guys are not on the nuclear power wagon. We have had safe reliable nuclear power here since the late 1960’s. We are currently building a small fleet of SMRs that will be the first operational SMR fleet in North America. SMRs are going to revolutionize electricity production and distribution…..don’t miss out!!
we have a lot of dumm asses left over from the 60's 70's who never grew up
Most people support nuclear. They know its affordable, reliable and emissions free.
and will last decades unlike solar panels and turbines they have to be replaced every 10 years and they are NOT recyclable.
That's not True most people don't want Nuclear you obviously watch main stream media which is Brain Washing you,did you know that Australia has only 18 Coal Fired Plants and China has over 1400 yet we are classed in the High Emissions Category what a JOKE !!
You suck who ever wont allow my true comments 🖕
Go Fuck yourself your obviously Brain Washed like the rest of them and obviously jabbed with toxic toxins
No they don’t.
So people in Sydney like roof solar panels? I bet you most of the young people who said that are living in apartment buildings and don't even have their own roof
How many people with roof top solar have battery backup? If they dont then the grid needs to be built to handle the full load. People seem to think that solar helps the grid but it doesnt do much. It just creates a nightmare for the grid operator since they need to predict the weather.
I grew up in California USA. We have a nuclear plant right in our area. It has been online since I was in grade school. I am 55 now. Even today it produces 1.7TWh of power annually. Altamont Pass wind farm outside of Oakland only produces 1.1 TWh of power, and it takes up far more space. Nuclear energy is the way to go if you want to help the environment and improve power production.
I live in Alberta Canada. There are data sets that show power production by source for an entire year. I added up the production of power for renewables for a year and all the renewables in Alberta produced 25% of the power of the Bruce Power nuclear site in Ontario Canada. The Bruce Power site is 2200 acres. There is one solar plant in Alberta that is 3300 acres. I dont get how anyone can think that renewables are the better option? One other advantage of nuclear is usually they are well paying long term union jobs. Its also inside work for the most part so weather is not an issue. The communities around a nuclear power plant usually benefit. At Bruce Power there are families where the grandpa was there when it opened and has retired now. The dads are starting to retire now and their kids are working at the same plant.
Isn't Altamont Pass the notorious Eagle Shredder?
Victoria is about to black out. Will Victorians finally wake up. Or are they so Daniel Woke they will sit, freezing in the dark and wondering WTFH!.
I really worry about Victoria, the liberal party so far is not an opposition just a bunch of people looking at polling and mainstream media before opening their mouths.
50 years too late. Not holding my breath. Australian governments, unless they are raising taxes, take decades to do anything of significance that benefits the people.
Amazing how the government is always behind the eight ball - no future planning at all !!! Our defence force is ten years behind and our power plants are behind.
You are right. Looking at the current voting results I can't see it getting up, as you said 50 years too late, it is way too late. Imagine getting the community on board when the site is within 100 km from their home.
I know right....So why do we need Government at all then ????? I'm sure we can be better self governed without all the corruption, interference and BS ?
The second best time is now...
@@reddysteddy2195 The world and Australia has moved on, why do we have to go backwards? There are other emerging energy resources, we must look forward not backwards.
Former head of ANSTO, Adi Paterson, on The Outsiders said the Sydney basin is due a major hail storm some time in the next 20 years. That may wipe out so much of the solar that Sydney will be plunged into black outs. I hadn’t thought about that one. Hail storms also happen in many key locations in Australia. Solar is a system not designed to survive nature.
Hail, storm, cyclone, fire, dust, ash, salt air & meteorites can all effect solar PV’s.
Dutton isn’t a fool, he would have done internal polling on this issue
He's just the other cheek of the same asshole.....and "internal polling" which is corrupt and biased is far removed from the voice of the Australian people.....Neutrino energy is the ONLY way forward....it leaves everything else behind in terms of humanities energy needs......ruclips.net/video/1Dmxw6YE-Bw/видео.htmlsi=xe3mKUPLTJxKG7n1
The difference is NUCLEAR will last years and years, and is constant rain or shine, renewables only work on sunny windy days, panels and turbines have to be replaced about every 10 years, so it's no brainer.
Thats why its called renewables
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They are destroying the Great Dividing Range with wind farms, a new section recently commissioned, produced no power for the first 62 days & country fire services are refusing to get involved if any of these renewable schemes start a bushfire as they are not equipped to handle HV Grids, solar or wind structures that have been known to start fires.
One of last night's Labor support TV news services, either ABC or Channel 10, showed how South Australian was now the renewable capital of Australia and now running almost entirely on them. Did not mention it has among the most expensive electricity in the world and that when the wind dies down and sun does not shine, it is not batteries that power it but coal power from other states. SA's very expensive big batteries provide only minutes of power, not hours. Take away coal (or nuclear) and SA will be in the dark for hours and even days.
The left media won’t actually tell the truth, if the misinformation bill was honest then mainstream media would be shut down
Yep and SA is paying the highest electricity bills in the country
The big battery only gives them a maximum of 7 minutes of energy.
Put coal back in the mix
We should also make oil from coal just like a leader did 80 years ago and had enough oil to run a war
Let's just all move forward 😊
Nuclear energy is clean, reliable and always on. Just common sense.
Neutrino energy is the ONLY way forward....it leaves everything else behind in terms of humanities energy needs......ruclips.net/video/1Dmxw6YE-Bw/видео.htmlsi=xe3mKUPLTJxKG7n1
The Voice all over again.
Sydney Morning Herald........ part of the lamestream media. Employed by the same company as Absent Albow.
Sorry Lads the only short term solution that will be of any help is coal. Pump the money into bringing back on line our coal stations while we can do the sums to make sure Potatoe heads plan can actually be brought into existence. Qld didnt want the Olympics that could have built another power station of at least keep one or two going for longer.
There's always polls, yet I've never been asked questions that refer to a poll. Who are they asking? I'm guessing not the normal folks but those looking to answer polls? Nobody I know gets asked these questions.
France👍 Germany👎
And power is cheaper and more reliable in France. Renewables can always be part of the mix, but you need baseload power. That's either going to come from LNG or nuclear. Considering the rest of the world is doubling down on nuclear the Aussie left should get out of its bubble and look at the international environment.
Sorry but I disregard any survey under The Sydney Morning Herald banner!
Personally coal and gas as it was
But if need to use alternative nuclar
As its long term power
Not short term high maintenance
20 yrs at best how much going to cost to replace them
How much then because of product andcwage rises in that time
Just look how much everything gone up since their been in control
Itll only get worse so where's the money coming to replace them at new higher prices
As we'll be still paying of the ones needing replacement if not destroyed by weather fire floods hail beforehand
All for intermittent power let alone the environmental wilderness and wildlife destruction not to mention food production
Nuclar use the current system only thing changes is what make the steam to turn the turbines to generate power
Thats all Nuclar does boil water just as coal and gas has been proven to work no risks like renewables
If you feel that concerned about it your still able to put solar on your rooftop
Surely multiple souces of power is better then relying on one that way should one fail their are backups
This is a specially in case of war or weather conditions
Like i mentioned above so just for the security along Nuclar has to part of the mix
To myself its a no brainer to go Nuclar then with guaranteed power load and cheaper power
People may feel more inclined to buy atleast one electric vehicle especially in city area's
But no power and whats available way to expensive people can even heat themselves or cook even have light on
So never going to buy electric vechiles
Nuclear is the BEST. Australia has the MOST Uranium in the WORLD!!!! LOTS of jobs and CLEAN NRG!!
Ah , the argument we were not allowed to have.
Tricky.
Nuclear power = New Clear Power
A labor voter can like nuclear but still will vote Labor. the 2PP is all that matters
You cling onto your Virtue Signalling and the lights go out. You shouldn't have a vote.............its this sort of Idiocy that gave our Gas away for nothing.
Paul, just pronounce two syllables new-clear.
Because of investments in solar and wind. LET HAIL FALL
Surely the question is why not nuclear? We've known for hundreds, maybe thousands of years that windmills don't work when it's too windy . Solar panels don't like hail - acres of shattered glass in Texas at the moment. Both have applications where they can contribute but Labor/Green/Climate Cult mandates are dumb. Dutton's mix based on suitability is tending to common sense. Same applies to electric cars really - horses for courses
I wouldn't rely on one poll..wait for the regular polls which will undoubtedly come soon...that aside if opinion is split a lot depends on how the cohorts are distributed across the network of electorates. This assumes that all voters buy into the "only one issue" election.....which is very uncertain
No one asked me yet, I want nuclear.
Story just came out last week that pollution kills 2,000 people a day, that's 730k annually. A yet not a single mention of nuclear energy. Even if you had a nuclear accident every year it would likely kill less than 500,000. Just in those terms, nuclear is safer, but there are a bunch of nuclear plants that are running on old tech cause of government redtape, and they could even be safer if they could be modernized. The problem is nuclear is not profitable enough, it provides so much energy for cheap and is safer and cleaner than almost everything else. Governments and big business will continue to push the anti-nuclear story cause it protects their financial interests.
Ad me to a big yes for nuclear.
How is this even a debate. Nuclear may be expensive to build but it’s gonna be so much more beneficial in the long run in terms of power, money and reducing emissions
Ted O’Brian is putting to much power output of SMR the largest at this time is .7 MwH that is 7,000,000 KwH they are being built for small countries or large businesses. That is power for 538,461 persons @ 13 KwH / person. 4 million persons in Melbourne. = 52,000,000, Million KwH Melbourne would need 8 SMR reactors.
Counting only residential. Businesses, sports grounds, street lighting ect: could even more than double that amount.
Seven nuclear plants at $15 billion each is $105 billion. For that, taxpayers could pay for 7 million home solar panel or battery installations at $15,000 per installation.
They use a solar powered calculator in the sun 😅
Bill Gates has just started building a nuclear plant in Idaho. I think it will be finished by 2030 and it also has energy storage to help stabilise the grid.
There is a new style of renewable green energy that produces massive energy, really, really cheap compared to wind and solar energies. For every dollar invested, Australia could see hundreds time more energy. Energy that can be sold to users for half of what they paid in 2021!
You still haven't told us what this "new style green energy" is...
ALBO has been watching To many Holmer Simson shows
I am in my mid 60's and i can safely say i will never see one them fully buand operational by time die even it i live a hundred. Just the paperwork that has to done before a shovel full dirt is turned will take 10 to 15 years for starters and that is for the first one.
We the people of Queensland will be paying to ever increasing cost of the building and running and maintenance of them for decades after this fool Dutton and the rest of the LNP are long long gone for the life
I find these cartoons more amusing and childish if anything.
There is nothing wrong being an Australian Bogan iff It means getting nuculer power.😀😄
Shouldn't facts matter? And the fact is that nuclear is the best option and was the whole time.
Nyookyoolar. It’s pronounced nookyoolar
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TIME FOR ANOTHER REFERENDUM ON NUCLEAR, NO MORE PUTTING THIS DECISION IN POLITICIANS HANDS, LET THE PEOPLE OF AUSTRALIA DECIDE IF NUCLEAR IS BEST FOR US.
AND IF IT PASSED WOULD THE GOVERNMENT AGAIN TRY TO AGAINST OUR DECISION LIKE THEY TRIED WITH THE VOICE??
Exactly what are we voting on? Liberals won't give us the cost, how many reactors are planned, no time frame, no megawatt output, no interim measure. Best guesstimates is that any proposal for nuclear will only provide 5% of Australia overall energy needs. Until we see the detail, there is nothing to vote on.
Super disappointing this country is too childish to have a sensible rational debate. I want to see renewables succeed but I have never seen labour deliver successful projects yet so this government rolling renewables out is a scary prospect. Going for utopia never works where a staged approach always works and having our eggs in multiple baskets and not just a renewable one is a sensible approach. If only the media (not sky) were able to understand what sensible means, but alas they can't so they resort to cartoons that you often see drawn in a kindy
Which Bank . Bank of Shanghai 😅
I wish this wasn't a partisan issue, that always turns an intelligent discussion into a tribal stoush where people say the dumbest things because they only care about their team winning an election.
Dutton Murdoch’s little puppy dog 🐩
After albos meme dummy spit this makes him look an even bigger dill. Do as I say not as I do Albo.
Australia gets its a huge tactical advantage sort or a triangular build Nuclear power plant huge back up battery storage some way to lock in a flat rate price forever the manipulation game of labor value vs goods and services are at what labor affords is the same not sure how to affect but through better technologies and materials to change scarcity but the more simple engineering of what a nuclear power plant is and safety considered should be cheap and easy to reproduce.
Murray must stop with the Biden like whispering.
Currently in the USA, the decommissioning of a Nuclear Power Station has to be completed 60 years after the cessation of operations. It can be longer if the process is required to protect Public Health or safety. A 50 year break is required for radioactive decay and 10 years is required to dismantle the facility. This is a very costly exercise. A renewable power station does not require a complicated process such as this for decommissioning.
Yeah, instead bury the toxic carbon fiber turbine blades, which will total millions of tons worldwide, in landfill every twenty years. You do understand that carbon fiber is toxic and remains toxic forever.
And what about those cadmium infused solar panels?
From Google. "Long-term exposure to cadmium through air, water, soil, and food leads to cancer and organ system toxicity such as skeletal, urinary, reproductive, cardiovascular, central and peripheral nervous, and respiratory systems. Cadmium levels can be measured in the blood, urine, hair, nail and saliva samples."
You conveniently forget to mention that 95% of solar panels can not be recycled and end up in toxic landfills because of the highly toxic minerals they contain. Minerals that do not decay and permanently turn that land toxic and unusable for life. Don't believe me, google it. America now has over 2000 acres of solar farm that can not be used for life because one single hailstorm destroyed the solar panels, releasing these minerals into the soil. Permanently contaminating the area and making it unusable for life. This is only one area of many where this has happened.
Absolute nonsense. Where do you trolls make this sh!t up? 🤦♂️
If you want good clean energy, nuclear is good but not if an earthquake hits. You can build new style green energies that rival nuclear energy for power output, as you spend about 50% less, to build them. If an earthquake hits, you have a clean water leak, or clean air. Would Australians want to hear how these work?
So what is this "new style green energy"? Also, Australia is probably the least earthquake-prone country in the world. The risk of an earthquake that could damage a nuclear power plant in Australia is tiny.
One major hail storm and there goes the solar panels.
One major hail storm and there goes all those solar panels spread out over what was once productive agricultural land.
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Nuclear Reactors use Ionizing radiation which is not immediately detectable by human senses, so instruments such as Geiger counters are used to detect and measure it. However, very high energy particles can produce visible effects on both organic and inorganic matter (e.g. water lighting in Cherenkov radiation) or humans (e.g. acute radiation syndrome).
Exposure to ionizing radiation causes cell damage to living tissue and organ damage. In high acute doses, it will result in radiation burns and radiation sickness, and lower level doses over a protracted time can cause cancer.
Luckily no one works inside a nuclear reactor hey? What’s your point? Nuclear is safe. Statistics prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Solar panels contain arsenic. Why don’t you tell us what that does to the body?
Solar panels are safe.
Your logic is flawed and so is your argument.
The LNP must have consulted a 17 year old kid about locating Nuclear Reactors in Loy Yang - Victoria, Port Augusta - South Australia and Callide / Gladstone - Queensland as these locations are listed Geological / Earthquake Risk Zones. The location of Lithgow is subject to Low Ground Water concerns.
There has been a catastrophic failure of a Nuclear Power Station in Japan called Fukushima which was caused by an Earthquake / Tsunami.
The LNP has obviously not performed any form of Risk Assessment - does the LNP have a suitable disaster plan for such an event as the one that occurred in Japan?
The Fukushima reactor was an ancient design. New reactors have been designed to specifically avoid issues in the event of a Fukushima like situation.
To quote from WSL:
"The tsunami exposed an Achilles heel in the design of some of the plants: the questionable placement of a single kitchen-table-size electric-switching station. At newer plants, the station was in a robust building that also housed the reactor. In others, it stood in a poorly protected outbuilding-a relic of the original design. When the tsunami hit, those switches were knocked out, rendering operating generators useless."
"The company used two different designs for safeguarding its 10 reactors in Fukushima. When the devastating quake struck on March 11, the five reactors with the newer design withstood the resulting 45-foot tsunami without their vital cooling systems failing. Those reactors shut down safely.
But the cooling systems failed at four reactors with the older design."
Japan's nuclear industry has also suffered from another issue. The Yakuza is directly affiliated with staffing many nuclear plants and has placed incompetent and untrained workers in those positions while violating labor laws. After Fukushima and a yakuza boss named Makoto Owada was arrested for supplying workers to TEPCO. Australia does not have the same problems with organized crime.
Did anyone perform a risk assessment on you before allowing you into this world? 😂
All of what you posted was nonsense. Fukushima survived the magnitude 9 earthquake without damage. If you actually educated yourself on the triple meltdown you would know that.
But you clearly don’t know anything about risk either. The nuclear industry and nuclear engineers know how to deal with the risks: they design for them because they understand the likelihood and consequences.
Grow up
@@polarbear7255 Thank you for your kind well intentioned and well worded response - a question - why are the Japanese now trying to carefully discharge mildly radioactive water into the Pacific Ocean - if the risk assessment had been well researched - would the Japanese had a more environmentally friendly method of managing the disposal of this water?
@@vincentburrowes9243
I’m more than happy to discuss the radioactive water release if you’d like? That’s the best way to get rid of 11 million cubic meters of water stored on site. It is not harmful
Sorry if my response was rather direct… i hear this stuff all the time. It’s not the big deal it’s made out to be.
Do you know it’s tritiated water?
@@polarbear7255 POOBEAR is back!! How are you Poobear? Now that you had a week or two to do your research, have you worked out all the the figures yet?
I'm desperately waiting on knowing the cost, the number of reactors, how many megawatts will be produced, the proposed time frame, and how we will survive until the reactors are built. While your at it, why are taxpayers going to fund all this? And lastly, best guesstimates indicates that nuclear will then only provide 5% of Australia energy needs. Where does the rest come from? I'm looking forward to your in-depth analysis on the answers.
Paul Murray and his poling predictions 😂 Dutton’s chances of winning are sadly slim to none.
You spelt Albo wrong, it’s Rudd all over again but without any of the charisma to hide his bullshit. Dutton will walk back into office just for not being Labor even if Labor pulls their classic move of knifing leaders in the back.
So they’re still better odds than Albo is what you’re saying 😂😂😂
@@knight2425 Don’t get me wrong I can’t stand Albo and the Labor Party, but seeing what happened in the last election with all the safe liberal seat’s falling to the Teal party and the disastrous Greens and their climate change agenda, god help us.
I believe it is lazy and stupid even contemplating nuclear energy in australia. You all forget about our sun and all the land we have, oh and the global warming ...
Why is it then that the UAE, which is similar to Australia in terms of solar and wind, has just built 2 nuclear reactors. Their power cost has been reduced by +30%. And nuclear doesn't contribute to global warming. It is emissions free.
I believe you need an education in physics if you think solar and wind are going to power and industrial economy and maintain our current living standards
@@polarbear7255 I am well versed. It is everyone's greed and ignorance that is causing this. Not my lack of knowledge
@@polarbear7255 and my inference was towards industrial economy. Go study some more mate
@@trentdavies4976 mate, I’ve probably forgotten more about nuclear energy than you’ll ever know.
Economics do not keep the lights on. Engineering and physics do. Listen to your engineers.
A mixed grid is essential. A renewables only approach is both dangerous and stupid.
Nuclear is and always has been the answer to zero emissions baseload.
The economics for renewables simply don’t work out. That is why consumer electricity prices increase logarithmically as the percentage of intermittent renewables on the grid increases.
wouldn't that be hilarious, get the Olympic games and the lights go out mid 100m sprint in Qld!!! Bowen would have to move to ???? who cares anywhere but here!!