I would not put it past Riz to have devised a full gamified quantifying system in order to track his and his friends’ progress. This outburst is canon.
As much as DM's like to pretend people in the game wouldn't do or know that sort of thing, there is very blatantly Spell Levels and Spell Slots. Characters would know what's what. Lean into the game guys, it lets bits like this happen.
@@demonzabrak People in real life use game theory and terminology to refer to their actions, abilities, and options. What is a military rank system if not a milestone based leveling system that gives you access to more options?
@@demonzabrak Hell, even if characters don't know the exact terminology of it, they can definitely understand "hey, it's harder for me to cast these spells or to make these spells stronger, and I can only cast so many per day before I'm god damn tired" Not to mention wizards would be most aware of it, especially copying a spell into their spell list takes 2 hours and 50 gold per spell level, at least in RAW. I'm sure the nerds would figure out there's some reason for that.
@@ParanoidYoshi you are correct, i didn't even notice she's also Small! either it was homebrewed or a mistake went unnoticed in the heat of the battle 🤔
Love that what bother's Riz so much about Kipperlily isn't that she's a trauma vulture, its that she is a level grinder. "I find the trauma stuff objectionable, but I find the level grinding despicable" is what I imagine the prerogative is
I dunno if he's considered this in depth, but speaking as a kid from a broken family structure, people being weird or horrible about it sort of just hits a flak vest of "Your childish and offensive response to this just shows how emotionally immature you are." Like, yeah, to genuinely think Riz is lucky to be bereaved is disgusting, but at the end of the day, Riz doesn't have anything to do with that - she's fixated on something weird she doesn't really understand. They are both rogues though, and she actually *might* have a valid philosophy regarding the way adventurers get strong. Like it or not, the Ratgrinders' method doesn't create cohesion, but it does create raw strength. I think Riz's outburst is kinda like his insecurity rising to the surface. He's right, but he's only reacting because he's defending his ideals. When it comes to her fixation on Pok, he's secure, because he actually knows what it's like to lose a parent, and she doesn't.
I like goldndusty’s comment A LOT; will just add as someone with diagnosed complex ptsd from childhood garbage- finding out a person like kipperlily was _jealous_ of not coming from a happy, loving home, to the point she tried to break it herself, fills me with a holy rage that absolutely justifies going full feral mask off. Especially with how much of a hypocrite she’s been about “things are unfair to ME! That’s why I’m trying to build a new god of colonialist rage, and how I did that was by delivering finishing blows on tortured monsters :3” Kipperlily makes me feel genuine fury and disgust- Brennan’s really good at building antagonists that drive the anarchist in me batshit
I loved the constant string of Riz completely outdoing Kipperlily KL: slashes Riz for 7 damage Riz : *Counter slashes for triple that damage* KL: mocks him Riz *annihilates her soul* KL: Jumps into the cracks Riz: Jumps into *Lava*
I love more that it's not even intentional. Riz is just doing what Riz do in a world threatening situation, and that's genuinely enough to do better than a kid that had her hand held the whole way.
Murph is deeply insulted that the Rat Grinders got to the same place as the bad kids without the stress of having to save the world. It all exploded in this scene.
This episode has some of the hardest shit talk - Fabian making an Ivy skin rug, Fig telling Ruben his music will suck for the rest of his short life, and this Riz and Kipperlily moment was my absolute favorite!!
And what is more quintessentially teenager than that just verbally destroying people only to probably regret those words when your frontal lobe has finished developing
Riz going off on KLCK was truly all I needed 😂 Riz is literally the most straight-laced of all the Bad Kids and *he's* the one KLCK has a bone to pick with? Get absolutely dunked on
It’s kinda funny that their rivalry can only be seen with how they help their allies and all the cloak and dagger tactics but the moment it’s one on one kipperlerly gets dunked on
He read her file from Jawbone. She's pissed that Riz's dad is dead, so he has more of that good old rogue's trauma. Some kids just get pissed they don't have as much complain about.
One thing i love about thr Rat Grinders thematically is that this statement is true 1:47. They’re insanely high leveled but poor at coordination and not doing the kind of prep and teamwork the Bad Kids learned from years of adventuring
Absolutely! Kipperlily running at Riz when she could have gotten a sneak attack at range, Mary Ann not having a single throwing weapon in case she couldn't get right on top of an enemy, Oisine not already having summons out as a conjuration wizard, Ivy not being hidden and likely not having alert resulting in her not getting a turn for a gloomstalker+action surge pop off. These children are terrible strategists.
In Coffin Run, there's a character called Wetzel who is a mastermind rogue but during the campaign gets an equivalent of Rage as a homebrew. I wouldn't be mad at Riz getting something similar.
Kipperlilly is the dark souls player that grinded 4 hours to hit max level before finishing the game and goes around in PvP dunking on noobz Riz is the type of player to cap how much he can level before defeating a boss and is just straight up mopping the floor with combat know how
Riz has all of Arin's "Why do you keep jumping around like that?! YOU'RE A FREAK! A FREAK!" energy, with none of the suffering of failing at Mario Maker action.
That's the kinda rage you get from bottling it up for almost an entire season lol. The moment Murph realized the rat-grinders were power-levelers who refused to play the game right, this moment was foretold.
What’s amazing about this fight is that the play style of the Ratgrinders in the final fight shows how inexperienced they are in PvP. They launch their biggest spells in the beginning with no regard for action economy, they waste whole turns and they don’t work together. Like Kipperlily not disengaging when she left Riz’s melee. Thanks to grinding, they don’t have the strategy or the creativity to do combat effectively.
I love Brennan’s choice to play kipperlily true to almost _all_ trauma vultures- she had every opportunity to go out with her adventuring party and experience real adventuring trauma. That’s kinda what she’s in school for. Adventuring is grimy, bloody-knuckled business. But she chose not to. She chose to help elevate and create a god of not rage, not fury, not even necessarily anger- but of petty, cowardly domination, because at her core, kipperlily and people like her (and like Porter, like Dawn, like Jace) are cowards in a very deep and dangerous way. Porter’s descended from imperialist losers and he’s angry to be deposed as a “normal” person when he should frankly be more grateful his lineage was allowed to survive, because the people his family slaughtered and colonized didn’t want the same things his family did. Nope. Man would rather die horribly trying to become Sol’s anger translator than reflect on the horrors of imperialism. He doesn’t feel Rage rage, he’s throwing a tantrum in Charlottesville that papa isn’t still in power. Kipperlily is such a perfect synthesis of the kids that ACTUALLY become neon4zis. Nothing. Happened. To her. Nothing is wrong. She has a loving home, a strong friend group, she’s incredibly talented, and it isn’t enough. She wants the flavor of trauma but is too cowardly to go out and get it, because some part of her knows the risks, and she isn’t interested in the pain, just the texture. The shit she’s done, if it traumatized her or not, is a debate for the people who study her brief life to have, because she’s not gonna be allowed to hurt anyone else trying to achieve her perfect backstory. Listen the way this world builds both individual antagonists and systems of colonial imperialism is *_incredibly important to me😂_*
Wait a minute I just realized he shouldn't have been able to use Fury of the Small on her, she's a halfling. That feature is for when you damage a creature one of more sizes *larger* than you (they are both size Small)
@@galaxycroissant6527 I mean the entire point of the Fury of the Small feature (it's a race feature for goblins) is the idea of 'you are small and you are angry' so when you attack a creature bigger than you you can use that feature to deal a little bit of extra damage because of the 'tho they be but little they are fierce' thing Since it's a goblin feature (and goblins are Small) it works on any creature size medium or above, so that's humans, elves, most monsters, even dwarves (which most people think of as being short) are actually size medium. 'Medium or bigger' is going to apply to most of the enemies you fight 9 times out of 10, so it's not really an 'unfair' restriction. And I mean if you're fighting someone the same size as you why would you have 'Fury' about your being small? It's in the name. The rule makes perfect sense 🤷
whether it’s technically legal or not, as a fellow DM, the stress and anger that kipperlilly has caused to Riz, narratively it makes sense to use it and i would allow it lmaooo
just being a dnd nerd but murph would relate… he shouldn’t be able to use fury of the ball bc it only works on creatures you are a size smaller than and KLCK is a halfling which means they’re the same size
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I would not put it past Riz to have devised a full gamified quantifying system in order to track his and his friends’ progress. This outburst is canon.
As much as DM's like to pretend people in the game wouldn't do or know that sort of thing, there is very blatantly Spell Levels and Spell Slots. Characters would know what's what. Lean into the game guys, it lets bits like this happen.
@@demonzabrak People in real life use game theory and terminology to refer to their actions, abilities, and options.
What is a military rank system if not a milestone based leveling system that gives you access to more options?
@@demonzabrak Hell, even if characters don't know the exact terminology of it, they can definitely understand "hey, it's harder for me to cast these spells or to make these spells stronger, and I can only cast so many per day before I'm god damn tired"
Not to mention wizards would be most aware of it, especially copying a spell into their spell list takes 2 hours and 50 gold per spell level, at least in RAW. I'm sure the nerds would figure out there's some reason for that.
never watched dimension20?
@@pluemas Most militaries are sorted by pay grade these days.
"if you chop his head off he can't be revivified," riz says, like a maniac.
murph played riz truly deranged this episode lmao
It tracks, just earlier that day he was suddenly smoking while shooting dragons with cannons. Rogue teacher is influencing him haha
Riz, Fabian and Fig were particularly feral, like they were being influenced by the rage stars.
At least he didn't say he wanted to lose his virginity on a rug made out of elf skin
Baron: _sighs dreamily_
I laughed harder and harder reading these replies before losing it at @@benjaminoechsli1941‘s 😂
I love this community
I cannot express how much I love that it’s called Fury of the Ball now
It's always been named "Fury of the ball"
@@codycarney2311 i believe officially it's Fury of The Small
yes but it got homebrew renamed during the first season
It shouldn’t have worked on another Small creature right? Or has it been homebrewed more OP to count for any creature who is not The Ball?
@@ParanoidYoshi you are correct, i didn't even notice she's also Small! either it was homebrewed or a mistake went unnoticed in the heat of the battle 🤔
Love that what bother's Riz so much about Kipperlily isn't that she's a trauma vulture, its that she is a level grinder.
"I find the trauma stuff objectionable, but I find the level grinding despicable" is what I imagine the prerogative is
I dunno if he's considered this in depth, but speaking as a kid from a broken family structure, people being weird or horrible about it sort of just hits a flak vest of "Your childish and offensive response to this just shows how emotionally immature you are." Like, yeah, to genuinely think Riz is lucky to be bereaved is disgusting, but at the end of the day, Riz doesn't have anything to do with that - she's fixated on something weird she doesn't really understand. They are both rogues though, and she actually *might* have a valid philosophy regarding the way adventurers get strong. Like it or not, the Ratgrinders' method doesn't create cohesion, but it does create raw strength. I think Riz's outburst is kinda like his insecurity rising to the surface. He's right, but he's only reacting because he's defending his ideals. When it comes to her fixation on Pok, he's secure, because he actually knows what it's like to lose a parent, and she doesn't.
@@GoldnDustydamn, what an absolute banger of a take. This is some like academic level psychological break down and I love it
I like goldndusty’s comment A LOT; will just add as someone with diagnosed complex ptsd from childhood garbage- finding out a person like kipperlily was _jealous_ of not coming from a happy, loving home, to the point she tried to break it herself, fills me with a holy rage that absolutely justifies going full feral mask off. Especially with how much of a hypocrite she’s been about “things are unfair to ME! That’s why I’m trying to build a new god of colonialist rage, and how I did that was by delivering finishing blows on tortured monsters :3”
Kipperlily makes me feel genuine fury and disgust- Brennan’s really good at building antagonists that drive the anarchist in me batshit
"I can excuse the trauma vulture, but I draw the line at power grinding"
"You can excuse the trauma vulture?"
I loved the constant string of Riz completely outdoing Kipperlily
KL: slashes Riz for 7 damage
Riz : *Counter slashes for triple that damage*
KL: mocks him
Riz *annihilates her soul*
KL: Jumps into the cracks
Riz: Jumps into *Lava*
I love more that it's not even intentional. Riz is just doing what Riz do in a world threatening situation, and that's genuinely enough to do better than a kid that had her hand held the whole way.
Motivation determines quality apparently.
Just showing up and ticking the boxes doesn't equate to actually experience.
Murph/Riz has been holding that one in the whole season!
Since the moment he learned _why_ they were called the Rat Grinders.
Murph is deeply insulted that the Rat Grinders got to the same place as the bad kids without the stress of having to save the world. It all exploded in this scene.
This episode has some of the hardest shit talk - Fabian making an Ivy skin rug, Fig telling Ruben his music will suck for the rest of his short life, and this Riz and Kipperlily moment was my absolute favorite!!
And what is more quintessentially teenager than that just verbally destroying people only to probably regret those words when your frontal lobe has finished developing
vicious mockeries were flying left and right fr
after Lou says what he says the table talk, like woah that was alot man got over shadowed
“You’re a bad teacher.”
“…No.”
“Look what you’re doing.”
my favorite's probably "loser says what?" "...what?" "....o*OH!!*"
Riz going off on KLCK was truly all I needed 😂 Riz is literally the most straight-laced of all the Bad Kids and *he's* the one KLCK has a bone to pick with? Get absolutely dunked on
It’s kinda funny that their rivalry can only be seen with how they help their allies and all the cloak and dagger tactics but the moment it’s one on one kipperlerly gets dunked on
(I know it's pedantic but I just want to point out the acronym would be KLCK, not KLKC, it's Kipperlily Copperkettle not Kipperlily Kettlecopper)
@@aldar8240 littledoggy girlcollar
@@aldar8240 Oh you're so right, thank you for correcting me
He read her file from Jawbone. She's pissed that Riz's dad is dead, so he has more of that good old rogue's trauma. Some kids just get pissed they don't have as much complain about.
One thing i love about thr Rat Grinders thematically is that this statement is true 1:47. They’re insanely high leveled but poor at coordination and not doing the kind of prep and teamwork the Bad Kids learned from years of adventuring
Absolutely! Kipperlily running at Riz when she could have gotten a sneak attack at range, Mary Ann not having a single throwing weapon in case she couldn't get right on top of an enemy, Oisine not already having summons out as a conjuration wizard, Ivy not being hidden and likely not having alert resulting in her not getting a turn for a gloomstalker+action surge pop off. These children are terrible strategists.
camera panning to the minis whenever the pcs lose it was so deeply funny to me
Murph fully became a fuming goblin at that moment, beautiful hahaha
I'm honestly surprised Riz didn't multiclass into barbarian from all the times the Rat Grinders had left him pissed off
Honestly even in freshman year he was berserk, remember when he told Fabian to eat Dayne’s eye!?? Lovable.
In Coffin Run, there's a character called Wetzel who is a mastermind rogue but during the campaign gets an equivalent of Rage as a homebrew. I wouldn't be mad at Riz getting something similar.
Riz Gukgak going absolutely mad on these lads
and then "swimming" happened, mr. riz gukgak went full ham in the finale
"Deeply injured (both physically and emotionally), she leaps into the cracks in between the floor, vanishing."
Get 'er, The Ball!
Murph's choice to take the R.G.'s grinding SO personally is pure gold!
I love that Riz is the one character breaking the forth wall. "Do you have water vehicle proficiency Jawbone??" "You suck at this game!"
Honestly, this is my favorite murph sound.
“You sUCK!”
Mine new favorite one is him just coughing/weezing/cackling after Zac said "even cowgirls get the blues"
The back to back to cuts from Riz and Kipperlily is so funny, it brought me back to playing with my dolls
PLOTTWIST: Riz is Neo, knowing he’s in “the Matrix” (TTRPG)
Senior Year manifesting this
Kipperlilly is like a Dark Souls PvE build trying to PvP
Not even ,portor and Jace beat up the monsters for them
Kipperlilly is the dark souls player that grinded 4 hours to hit max level before finishing the game and goes around in PvP dunking on noobz
Riz is the type of player to cap how much he can level before defeating a boss and is just straight up mopping the floor with combat know how
@@Nick-ib3hw i feel like kipperlilly is more of a AFK farmer
Now THATS what I call “Fury of the Ball”
Murph went for both the physical and the emotional damage
in this instance, i know in my heart that riz dealt 14 points of psychic damage
Truly fury of the ball XD
Rogues are hilarious. Sneak attack 46 damage. No sneak attack 8 damage.
The way I can say Murph's lines with him with the same amount of vitriol
Riz has all of Arin's "Why do you keep jumping around like that?! YOU'RE A FREAK! A FREAK!" energy, with none of the suffering of failing at Mario Maker action.
Omg thank you that is the inflection my mind kept bringing up
I love “fury of the ball”. He may look like a squishy little ball, but boy, howdy, does plow you into the ground when he’s launched. 😂
That's the kinda rage you get from bottling it up for almost an entire season lol. The moment Murph realized the rat-grinders were power-levelers who refused to play the game right, this moment was foretold.
This is truly the wrath of the ball
1:40 This ranks as my favorite bit from the "Minis theater" to date
pls do riz jumping into the lava and kipperlilly goes "wait what the fuck-" and comes out of stealth SKKSKS
I love how in this fight every rat grinders got a personal emotional damage attack in addition to the physical one. Like *chef's kiss*
"You suck at this game" in character is so funny to me 🤣
Truly such a terrific Murph moment.
He's got that dog in him
My favorite thing ever in the history of forever will always be Murph/Riz having an angry outburst it's so beautiful (bonus points for hissing)
I think I'm going to wait and savor this episode over the weekend.
the back and forth calling each other a freak is so high school, i love it xD
What’s amazing about this fight is that the play style of the Ratgrinders in the final fight shows how inexperienced they are in PvP. They launch their biggest spells in the beginning with no regard for action economy, they waste whole turns and they don’t work together. Like Kipperlily not disengaging when she left Riz’s melee. Thanks to grinding, they don’t have the strategy or the creativity to do combat effectively.
100%!!! Such an interesting final fight
Honestly, so cathartic.
I love that the BBEG this season is xp leveling.
knew this would be a great clip as soon as I saw it in the episode lmao
God that map is *incredible*
Riz is an incredible temperate person
This season has fully broke Murph
IM SO GLAD SOMEONE CLIPPED THIS
I love Brennan’s choice to play kipperlily true to almost _all_ trauma vultures- she had every opportunity to go out with her adventuring party and experience real adventuring trauma. That’s kinda what she’s in school for. Adventuring is grimy, bloody-knuckled business. But she chose not to. She chose to help elevate and create a god of not rage, not fury, not even necessarily anger- but of petty, cowardly domination, because at her core, kipperlily and people like her (and like Porter, like Dawn, like Jace) are cowards in a very deep and dangerous way. Porter’s descended from imperialist losers and he’s angry to be deposed as a “normal” person when he should frankly be more grateful his lineage was allowed to survive, because the people his family slaughtered and colonized didn’t want the same things his family did. Nope. Man would rather die horribly trying to become Sol’s anger translator than reflect on the horrors of imperialism. He doesn’t feel Rage rage, he’s throwing a tantrum in Charlottesville that papa isn’t still in power.
Kipperlily is such a perfect synthesis of the kids that ACTUALLY become neon4zis. Nothing. Happened. To her. Nothing is wrong. She has a loving home, a strong friend group, she’s incredibly talented, and it isn’t enough. She wants the flavor of trauma but is too cowardly to go out and get it, because some part of her knows the risks, and she isn’t interested in the pain, just the texture. The shit she’s done, if it traumatized her or not, is a debate for the people who study her brief life to have, because she’s not gonna be allowed to hurt anyone else trying to achieve her perfect backstory.
Listen the way this world builds both individual antagonists and systems of colonial imperialism is *_incredibly important to me😂_*
Quick thing, people don't have to be grateful for others allowing them to live. That's a basic right we all when we are born.
instantly she became every player who ever killed murph in WOW
Wait a minute I just realized he shouldn't have been able to use Fury of the Small on her, she's a halfling. That feature is for when you damage a creature one of more sizes *larger* than you (they are both size Small)
I think bc it was reskinned to Fury of The Ball, it may let him hit any combatant. Also that's a dumb rule that you can only attack people bigger
@@galaxycroissant6527 I mean the entire point of the Fury of the Small feature (it's a race feature for goblins) is the idea of 'you are small and you are angry' so when you attack a creature bigger than you you can use that feature to deal a little bit of extra damage because of the 'tho they be but little they are fierce' thing
Since it's a goblin feature (and goblins are Small) it works on any creature size medium or above, so that's humans, elves, most monsters, even dwarves (which most people think of as being short) are actually size medium. 'Medium or bigger' is going to apply to most of the enemies you fight 9 times out of 10, so it's not really an 'unfair' restriction. And I mean if you're fighting someone the same size as you why would you have 'Fury' about your being small? It's in the name. The rule makes perfect sense 🤷
@@LunaLongbottomLove I get the lore. I understand the mechanics and why it's implemented. I just still think it's stupid
whether it’s technically legal or not, as a fellow DM, the stress and anger that kipperlilly has caused to Riz, narratively it makes sense to use it and i would allow it lmaooo
@@galaxycroissant6527Go write your own rules.
Thank you for clipping this and posting it! I re watched it probably 5 times while watching the episode for the first time.
Baron ftom the Baronies: THAT IS MY ROMANCE PARTNER
This miniature is cursed
it's not cursed it's just a mini!
Guys i was talking about the video miniature 😂 not riz's one
this entire season has just been riz eye twitching out of pure frustration and i can’t imagine something more accurate
RIZ’S FURYYYYY
Genuinely the most riled up we've ever seen Murph, I believe 😂😂 Seems fitting that it's this trigger with these characters
I love that both Murph and Emily straight broke character to lose their shit on the Rat Grinders they had the most beef with in this episode. 😂
murph's riz voice has slowly gotten more and more Tweak from south park as this season has continued and im all for it
Porter fkin dies 00:54
just being a dnd nerd but murph would relate… he shouldn’t be able to use fury of the ball bc it only works on creatures you are a size smaller than and KLCK is a halfling which means they’re the same size
Pretty sure Fury of the Ball is a houseruled improvement on rules-as-written Fury of the Small
@@OrdigTroll i remember from freshman year they said they just renamed it but maybe from then until now they reworked it, that’s also possible
in my head there are no capital letters this is not Fury of the Ball this is just the anger of riz powering his hit
Blimey