DUAL 1214 Automatic record Changer with a busted tone arm repaired and full overhaul

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
  • Total overhaul of a Dual 1214 turntable including repair of a busted tone arm.

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  • @olipito
    @olipito 5 лет назад +9

    Thank you for giving all those duals a new life, they are really a mechanical wonder.

  • @seangardiner5339
    @seangardiner5339 3 года назад

    I'm in the process of refurbishing my Dad's old Dual 1214 on a Noresco NRC4-864 receiver. Your videos are a lifesaver! Thanks for taking your time to make sure we can all keep our turntables spinning!

  • @tonyneises5195
    @tonyneises5195 5 лет назад +3

    Those multi stacks were so cool. I just loved to sit and watch them do there magic when I was a kid. Cool stuff. Another great repair.

    • @greggaieck4119
      @greggaieck4119 3 года назад +1

      You should huld on to the turntable that a kool one

  • @waltschannel7465
    @waltschannel7465 5 лет назад +4

    Nice turntable! Thanks for all the advice you give along the way. As you say, it suffered some neglect, but is in pretty good cosmetic condition for being 40 + years old. It certainly puts the modern TT's to shame.

  • @amitbrahme3635
    @amitbrahme3635 3 года назад

    Really appreciate your efforts and time taken to fix this beautiful machine but more importantly by educating us how it works!!!

  • @jimmulyk4929
    @jimmulyk4929 Год назад

    The very best, most helpful video on this piece of equipment and for that matter, any other fix help video I have seen in a long time...BRAVO and thank you to you!

  • @AThreeDogNight
    @AThreeDogNight 5 лет назад +1

    Nice repair Dave. Another one up & running again. That was a lot of damage & neglect so I was surprised to see that wheel had not dried out & still in such a good shape. Thanks for the vid.

  • @macgvrs
    @macgvrs 5 лет назад

    I have a Garrard changer that is part of a KLH player with just an amp in it. I like to use automotive degreaser on things that are really gummed up, as long as it isn't plastic. That worked great for most of the problems but one function on this turntable simply would not free up no matter what I did. In desperation I finally tried some heavy duty silicone spray and it actually worked! I was so happy. I wasn't as lucky as you were with the idler. I had to send my idler tire out to be redone. It now works as it should. I also have a Perpetuum Ebner German turn table and the stacker on that works similar to yours. It is much older and it has three fiction pads that come out to hold the records while three flat blades lower and then drop the record to the turntable. Sadly, the friction material has died. Not sure how that can be fixed or even if it can be.

  • @LyneisFilm
    @LyneisFilm 3 года назад

    Just finished my Dual 2018, but I would have saved time if I had watched this first. My start stop mechanism was gummed up. This video did a great job of describing the functions of all those cams and levers. This mechanism reminds me of a Rube Goldberg device and is operation is not very obvious.

  • @truck9moon100
    @truck9moon100 5 лет назад

    I have a 1229Q bought new in 1976, as per my manual Dual tables are grounded thru the RC cables. Thanks for the great vids.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  5 лет назад

      Some were grounded through the RCA cables, and others had a separate ground.
      This one has a separate ground lug. Later models they just grounded that to the RCA cables.

    • @truck9moon100
      @truck9moon100 5 лет назад

      Thanks for the info, I did not know that.

  • @passqualecaiazza7728
    @passqualecaiazza7728 Год назад

    I have 10 Duals. Two of them are 1215S and two are 1216's. I love my Duals.

  • @martinda7446
    @martinda7446 5 лет назад

    The Duals are a favourite of mine too. My first proper turntable was a new Dual 506 in 1981.
    Enjoyed looking in today. Thanks 12Volt...Also I have got no aggravating questions (I can think of yet)!

    • @martinda7446
      @martinda7446 5 лет назад

      PS The 506 isn't as good as the earlier budget Duals The 12 series was excellent, all of 'em.

  • @rewalton46
    @rewalton46 5 лет назад

    Nice job on the Dual 1214. The moment I saw the power stay on, I knew what the problem was. I worked in an audio repair shop in Honolulu back in the mid and late 70s. The Hawaiian salty air tended to dry out and gum up the mechanisms at an accelerated rate, and our shop overhauled a huge number of turntables suffering from dried grease. We had a guy who did almost nothing but overhaul turntables, and he could do a complete teardown and service in about a half hour to 45 minutes. These were great units. I still have a 1219 from that era, and it probably needs most of the work you did for this 1214 except for the tonearm part.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  5 лет назад

      Yes I did the gummed up mech on another video a few years ago. Fixed hundreds of these back in the 80s. We have the same problem here. Salt air, as this town is surrounded by water.

  • @kardeef33317
    @kardeef33317 5 лет назад

    When I got those 2 cheap receivers with turntables built in, one had the 45 adapter for the auto changer. My electronic stuff has been banished to the garage by my better 3/4 . I can't wait to see if I can get 1 working, I haven't listened to my records in over 30 years.

  • @toneyisaiah408
    @toneyisaiah408 4 года назад

    Sir, thanks for showing off the Daul turntables.
    Especially in today's world.
    where vintage audio equipment
    is big business.

  • @SinnerSince1962
    @SinnerSince1962 3 года назад +1

    One thing to be careful of on the 1214 is often the mechanism will move enough to release the idler wheel and stop driving the platter, but not enough to turn the motor power off. I had one do this recently. Therefore, the motor continues to run ALL THE TIME, even when not driving anything. As you demonstrated in fixing this one, the movement must be effortless as the power switch takes extremely light pressure to activate.

  • @zx8401ztv
    @zx8401ztv 5 лет назад +2

    Loverly job dave :-D
    I've done a few old decks that were gummed up and it's always nice to get it all free and working like it should.
    i was supprised by the broken arm joint, i can't imagine how someone could do that.
    That's the problem with a magnetic picup, something like a 2mv signal high impedance, just asking for mains frequency to induce 50/60 hz into the output wires.

  • @brianmccune1700
    @brianmccune1700 2 года назад

    great video thanks for doing it, I have a dual 1214 I purchased in 1969 new , it is not a Noresco so a bit smaller case.
    I need a cartridge holder and needle or a new tone arm not sure were to. look for one any ideas ?

  • @rickdeboer8078
    @rickdeboer8078 Год назад

    Great video!! Just purchased my first Dual Turntable, thanks for the good video.

  • @THEtechknight
    @THEtechknight 5 лет назад

    One thing I like about that model, it doesnt need that swing over arm to stabilize the record stack like some changers do.

  • @kardeef33317
    @kardeef33317 5 лет назад

    Was thinking while you were taking the tone arm apart that a pair of snap-ring pliers with the pins on it might work. Thanks for the vids I've learned from them.

  • @harryhudson3349
    @harryhudson3349 11 месяцев назад

    Hi, great videos and I'm working my way through them. I'm new to having a dual 1219 and you've helped me a lot in doing some minor repairs and annoyances. I think mine is haunted, works then takes the day off. I was wondering if you've done a video on the stacker not working? The machine goes through the motion bit record doesn't drop so tone arm turns off. Any pointers please.

  • @silversrepairshop1459
    @silversrepairshop1459 5 лет назад

    Good to see a vintage turntable.. I have had many basf. Technics..bsr..pioneer.. and yes they all wear out but I now have a Yamaha turntable expensive but worth it thanks for the great videos

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  5 лет назад

      I have several now. Don't use them much as I really don't listen to vinyl. I usually use a technics slm1

  • @theladykillers1966
    @theladykillers1966 2 года назад

    Hey sir, I have a DUAL CS 505 - 3, IT has a loud buzz, both channels, when the extra earth is attached it does make a slight difference but still buzzing, tried another amp & power supply, prob still there, would you be able to advise me on the first things to check ? Cheers, Mark.

  • @wesselpost8580
    @wesselpost8580 2 года назад

    Lovely video. Funny to see that most of the issues you show are sort of general for these duals. I also own 2 duals 1214s. One is running great, but the eldest one (CS12) will start to create a motor humm after running for some time. It's only audible near the motor, not in the speakers. Do you have a clue what that is?

  • @SinnerSince1962
    @SinnerSince1962 3 года назад

    I think I missed the fix for the ground issue you were having. Was it actually in the contacts in the headshell, or did you have to add a ground wire to the unit? Thanks!

  • @SinnerSince1962
    @SinnerSince1962 3 года назад

    Take a small 6x6 cardboard box and turn the table upside down resting the platter down on it. You'll remove the spindle, of course, first. You have an instant way to rotate the unit any way you need to to work on different parts as you can rotate it now. I've been doing this for years. Make sure, however you have the clip in place or hold on to the platter as you turn it over.

  • @ralphexwhyzee8168
    @ralphexwhyzee8168 3 года назад

    Hello from Toronto, thank you so much for the great videos, I watched each and every one of them trying to figure out what went wrong with my dual 1214, I had an issue with the start/stop button and I got it adjusted, the tonearm stopped moving after I lubricated the internal mechanical parts, please let me know what could be the problem , and thank you so much. God bless!

  • @johnhpalmer6098
    @johnhpalmer6098 5 лет назад

    Nice old Dual, the cart is a nice Grado ZT I think it is. It's the predecessor to the current Prestige series, same body design and stupid easy to align thanks to the relatively square body. I have the Prestige Green 1 on a budget Kenwood belt drive table from the mid 80's and performs very well on said table. Lucky find this table. The only thing I worry is the stylus, it looks like it might be severely worn or is a conical.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  5 лет назад

      Yes grado. I havent looked at the stylus under the microscope yet.

  • @jurtubia
    @jurtubia 9 месяцев назад

    Hola !! Excelente review ..quiero cambiar los cables rca ..tengo una 1225 pero no se cual cable es el preferido ya que no se cual es el que tiene cable a tierra ya que los dual usan el cable dentro de los rca …

  • @oscardesignstudios
    @oscardesignstudios 2 года назад

    I have the same issue in my 1219.thanks a lot!!!!!!!!

  • @charles13850
    @charles13850 5 лет назад

    I learn a lot from your posts.
    I broke off the head shell end that holds the cartridge to the tone arm of my 1229Q . Do you think I can epoxy it or do I need a new tone arm? Can just the head shell be replaced and attached to the tone arm? As such where could I get that part? If not, where can I find a new tone arm for my 1229Q?

  • @Synthematix
    @Synthematix 4 года назад

    how does the pitch control work on these? does it change the motors speed? or is it done mechanically?

  • @tomwatkins4730
    @tomwatkins4730 5 лет назад

    Good work. I appreciate your attention to essential detail.

  • @rafa1978rafa
    @rafa1978rafa 4 года назад

    Hello, I would like to know how to disassemble the complete arm together with the audio output connections of a Dual 1235 to change it to another Dual. Thank you.

  • @RockinJohnny
    @RockinJohnny 3 года назад

    I wonder if that tone arm would upgrade my ITT KA 1255 BSR type deck from 1973

  • @williamlogan4049
    @williamlogan4049 5 лет назад

    Happy new year to you and every one of my friends in Canada

  • @ElectoneGuy
    @ElectoneGuy 5 лет назад

    Those goddam headshell contacts are a pita. I'm working on a 1219 and I lost the bloody cam gear spring. It's a tiny little "w" shaped spring that sits in a little divot on the main cam and the only thing holding it in there was a dab of grease. Well, it gonzo and now the auto start won't work. Any idea where I can find one of those things?

  • @danmackintosh6325
    @danmackintosh6325 5 лет назад

    I was considering buying some Deoxit D100, but was unsure as it's so expensive and was thinking "can it really be THAT good?"... Well, seeing what it did to those contacts in the tone arm in 30 seconds flat, it's surprising if you're not sponsored by them because you make a really compelling case for investing in a bottle... I like Servisol too but might have to give the old Caig a shot at the pots on some of my kit...

    • @danmackintosh6325
      @danmackintosh6325 5 лет назад

      Oh, and a few minutes on, I've got an old Showaddywaddy EP that remains "property of Radio Clwyd"... I wonder if they'd like it back?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  5 лет назад +1

      No I am not sponsored by them. Not in any way. It may appear that way from the promotional type video I did, that was to enter a contest.

    • @danmackintosh6325
      @danmackintosh6325 5 лет назад

      Well whichever contest you entered, I think ultimately they are the winner since they've likely found a new customer in me! Looks like it's some powerful stuff.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  5 лет назад

      @@danmackintosh6325
      I won the contest a few years ago. Might make another run for it this summer again if they run it.

  • @mikowalski
    @mikowalski 4 года назад

    Great movie... you helped me very much... i did this same with autostop... thanks to you for this intro... ☆☆☆☆☆

  • @papas947
    @papas947 8 месяцев назад

    looking for someone to repair/service a Garrard AT60 that has been in storage for many years. It will turn on but is very stiff - you have to help it get going.

  • @Boytotoboy
    @Boytotoboy 5 лет назад

    Hello, thanks for the video. Did you try the auto changer with the tone arm getting to the end of the record, dropping the next record and playing the next record? I have an issue that my tone arm settles down just before the record.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  5 лет назад

      Yes it picks up at the end drops another record and plays it.

    • @Boytotoboy
      @Boytotoboy 5 лет назад

      @@12voltvids Thanks for your reply. The start/stop lever goes back to neutral as the arm settles down on the record. So during the next cycle, does the tone arm have to overcome the force of the on/off switch, as if doing a manual start, or is the on/off switch held on position when there are stacked records in the spindle?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  5 лет назад

      @@Boytotoboy yes it goes to neutral position. That doesnt move when the arm moves to the center of the record and trips the mechanism. There is an adjustment for the pick up position I have done a video on this adjustment for dual.

  • @hughbetcha436
    @hughbetcha436 4 года назад

    Could you let me know what cleaners you use when you restore these turntables?

  • @juliusheide3643
    @juliusheide3643 5 лет назад

    Hi,when the turntable is off, the idler wheel remains pressed against the rim and shaft?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  5 лет назад

      Lubrication has dried up in the lower mechanism. Needs to come apart and be oiled

  • @AxellTh
    @AxellTh 5 лет назад

    Hi! I have one of these turn tables. The idler wheel is not as soft as yours. Is there something that can make this type of rubber softer?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  5 лет назад

      Rubber Renew

    • @AxellTh
      @AxellTh 5 лет назад

      @@12voltvids thanks, I will give it a try

  • @reginaldlawrence412
    @reginaldlawrence412 5 лет назад

    Great job those are a great turntable.

  • @cdrepaircd5598
    @cdrepaircd5598 5 лет назад

    12 voltvibs hi and happy 2019 i have a dual 1257 and like you i have the humming i had it hooked up to my yamaha vx-r592 but i try it on my onkyo a-44 amp on my dinner table and there is no humming at all and i also put the tuner onkyo t-44 on and still no hum please help

  •  5 лет назад

    I wonder is Noresco also Norco? I figure the name means "North East Company" (toronto) in Canada?

  • @Luxman1958
    @Luxman1958 3 года назад

    the wood cabinet's had to be changed in USA/Canada in order to meet the local regulations/restictions .... the 12XX Duals have no ground-wire ...

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 года назад

      They all have the ground lug inside to connect the ground wire.

  • @donaldgervais1836
    @donaldgervais1836 4 месяца назад

    Where are you located? Anywhere near Maine?

  • @SSSwilliams
    @SSSwilliams 5 лет назад

    Great video 👍 cool looking thing.

  • @markcovington8159
    @markcovington8159 5 лет назад

    Hey there 12voltvids. About how many records can you stack up to on a DUAL 1214 record changer? :)

  • @lyntonprescott3412
    @lyntonprescott3412 5 лет назад

    Well done!🛠🎼 Let the music play!

  • @goodun6081
    @goodun6081 5 лет назад +1

    I could hear the wow and flutter, pitch variations, before you serviced it, and I could hear it at the end of the video after you serviced it. It's still an idler-drive turntable, audibly. Uggh.....

  • @jasonthejawman5442
    @jasonthejawman5442 5 лет назад +1

    Dual makes grest products i like there products

  • @ralphups7782
    @ralphups7782 5 лет назад

    If you have any spare time, have a look at this guy from the UK, the honest approach to fixing things.😉 (vintage electrics repair)

    • @lewisparker8453
      @lewisparker8453 4 года назад

      Great piece of technical description ..ekegantly presented

  • @THOMMGB
    @THOMMGB 5 лет назад

    Dave,
    Is there a particular Dual turntable model that you'd recommend or, even more importantly, not recommend?
    Thanks, Tom

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  5 лет назад

      Most of these dual idler turntables are pretty good. They all have the dried grease problem just due to age, but if you service them every few years they keep on going.
      There was a bad motor on some, namely the 1249 and 601. They shipped with either an SM840 or SM860 motor. The SM840 has known speed start up issues. Some times it will start the right speed, and other times it starts really fast.

    • @THOMMGB
      @THOMMGB 5 лет назад

      @@12voltvids Dave,
      Thanks very much for the information. Many years ago I had a Dual 1225 that I bought new. Eventually, it had the dried up grease issue and I threw it out. At the time I didn't realize grease could dry out and it could easily be fixed. Sigh.... The good news is that I saved all the goodies, so if I run across one that's missing the cartridge assembly, record spindle or record stacker-thing, I'll be good to go.

  • @HDXFH
    @HDXFH 5 лет назад

    Rounded like the needle on my sanyo turntable when i got it

  • @rocketaroo
    @rocketaroo 3 года назад

    Excellent video, I have uploaded a video of my new in box 1214.

  • @lesd40
    @lesd40 5 лет назад

    Hmmm...aren't Grado's expensive? I personally like Stantons.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  5 лет назад

      They are from what I understand.It came with the turntable.

  • @Bluethunderboom
    @Bluethunderboom 5 лет назад

    I don't know that Seeburg background music the copyright may have void or it's still there when playing the music. =/

    • @rawr51919
      @rawr51919 5 лет назад

      If it's anything before 1923 (I think), it should be fine.

  • @markmarkofkane8167
    @markmarkofkane8167 5 лет назад

    (edited because I commented too soon)
    Looks like a nice turntable!!

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  5 лет назад

      It was. Didn't you see the base? That is why it was given to me. The guy that owns that AR that I fixed the motor control board and put a new motor in gave it to me and 3 other tables.

    • @markmarkofkane8167
      @markmarkofkane8167 5 лет назад

      Yes, I saw it after I commented.

    •  5 лет назад

      well it was broken in half.. at the base LOL

  • @kamillop.7842
    @kamillop.7842 5 лет назад

    Seems that power off arm issue is quite popular in this model

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  5 лет назад

      All those old duals seize up

  • @bieneulm1982
    @bieneulm1982 3 года назад

    Hello. Nice little Turntable you have there, but (although the video is already an older one): The ones with 14 at the end aren´t Hifi due to the motor that is used within them. The shown Crado-system is therefore a bit oversized for this lower-end TT. I myself owned a 1224, 1225, both with Audio Technica AT91/3600 and now a Dual 491 with DMS242E + original stylus DN242. HiFi started with 25/26 within the friction wheel turntable series of Dual, you better get yourself a 1019,1218,1219,1229, because this is where the fun starts regarding to this TT series, if you haven´t already. The humming you can slightly hear is actually caused by the motor that is used in the small friction-wheel TT´s.
    Greetings of some random German guy passing through...
    For more information on Dual-Turntables I would like to recommend "Dual-Doktor" and the German Dual-Forum to you, at first adress you´ll get spare parts and the other contains a fan community:
    www.dual-doktor.de/ (whole devices & replacement parts)
    www.dualfred.de/?language=de (replacement parts)
    www.dual-board.de/
    (englisch Requests will certainly be replied to)

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  3 года назад

      I have a 505 belt drive, but I don't consider these high end. I have a technics slm1 and thorens td165 that are much better.

    • @bieneulm1982
      @bieneulm1982 3 года назад

      @@12voltvids Thorens and Dual are at the same level. Luxmann is also an alternative my neighbour that also had sworn himself to a two-tonearmed thorens once used.

    • @bieneulm1982
      @bieneulm1982 3 года назад

      A Dual 505 is low end, not high end. Relative to the other models that exist.

    • @bieneulm1982
      @bieneulm1982 3 года назад

      Here are a few projects that dual doktor has worked on: facebook.com/Dualdoktor/posts/3919741821428390

  • @morrisonstudio
    @morrisonstudio 5 лет назад +2

    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @12voltvids
    @12voltvids  5 лет назад +3

    😁😀😁😂

  • @oscardesignstudios
    @oscardesignstudios 2 года назад

    That focus sound....

  • @electroniquepassion
    @electroniquepassion 5 лет назад +3

    👍👍🇫🇷👍👍

  • @chass5438
    @chass5438 Год назад

    24:03: I would have used super glue. if you use the right stuff, it'll last for years. Most of the.newer type super glue, meaning Gorilla Glue or some other off Brands doesn't hold good at all. Not giving you advise, just what I'd use.

  • @SweeneyTTodd
    @SweeneyTTodd 5 лет назад

    WD40 is very popular here in the UK , but we also have an alternative it called GT85 similar price but in my opinion GT85 is much better

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  5 лет назад

      I just use it as a solvent to free up stuck mechanisms.

    • @SweeneyTTodd
      @SweeneyTTodd 5 лет назад

      I wasn't trying to say anything wrong , just GT85 is a good product , I was wondering if its available in the US , great work as always on that deck

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  5 лет назад

      @@SweeneyTTodd
      No no, you didn't say anything wrong. I have never heard of GT85 myself. Not saying it isn't available on this side of the pond, but many products are only available in certain regions. It is probably very similar.

  • @wayneg296
    @wayneg296 3 года назад

    👍👍😎✌️

  • @chass5438
    @chass5438 Год назад

    26:46: I hate those. They give me trouble almost everytime.

  • @mguess
    @mguess 2 года назад

    I wish I had seen this video before working on my Dual 1209. I had the exact issue with a gummed up start lever. Here is how I resolved the problem. ruclips.net/video/hEIEFhwG3Dw/видео.html