Thanks for sharing! I really want this Hammock . I sleep out in the winter! And it gets below 20° easily. I hope soon they will come up with a down under quilt and maybe even a rain protector. That will help insulate better.
I use the DD extra long underquilt. I use a couple of short branch swing straps over the ridgeline to anchor the carabiners and it does pretty well. Also swapped out the built in rainfly for the 12ft OneWind hammock tarp. Much lighter and better coverage than the one that comes with it (rode out a heavy thunderstorm a couple of weeks ago with no issues).
Easy way to keep strap in middle, tied parachord on both ends with a loop in the middle to hold the strap centered. Tied it to the stake loops on the head and foot. Puts a loop near the head and foot to keep the strap in place.
I’ve been tent camping off a motorcycle for 27 years. I sleep ok. I bought the haven XL because of all the positive comments and want to downsize from tent setup which Haven does nicely. Been in it 5 nights. 4 hanging and once on the ground. Have not had a good night sleep yet but will continue to work with it. Doing MABDR in July. Camping the whole way. Not sure if I’m doing the haven or my old tent…..
Really? I bought mine in April. Didn't get a chance to use it until June. I've used it with some stands i made to go under my truck tires, and for a week in the Minnesota Boundary Waters hanging in trees. Anywhere from 85 degrees to 26 degrees. I havent had a bad nights sleep yet. I use the air pump to fill the pad and then always top it off myself. To stop the crease in the pad i just make sure it is fully inflated. Only time I have noticed it was the first tim when i only used the air pump, and this last weekend when it dropped froms mid 60's down to 26 degress overnight. I also make my ridgeline very taught. I use the original straps and whoopie slings pulled tight to tension the ridgeline.
Your hacks are great!!! I too am a big fan of Reflectix and use it with or without a pad in my regular hammock. Makes a big difference in heat retention...and cheap...Also loved the Haven and cot idea...genius I'd say!!! Thanks...Jim
Howdy Jim, I appreciate you dropping by, I try to share some different points with this set up. The reflectixs does make a huge difference and the cot set up is good for when no trees are available. Makes it easier getting in and out.
I love the idea too. I usually sleep in my horse float at events in a swag after shovelling the poo out. I know that sounds gross but horses are vegetarian. I like the idea of hanging the hammock. How long is the hammock? Just wondering if it’ll fit.
Superior Gear straps work very well also. Same concept but they have a hole in the buckle so you don't have to pull the strap all the way through like you do with the One Wind straps. If you already have the straps you can buy the buckles only. I have replaced the buckles on my One Wind hammocks with Superior Gear buckles. Easier to set up, easier to adjust, and I think they are also a bit lighter. I love your idea of the cot under the Haven XL and the strap under the center. The "V" in the center has me setting the Haven XL to the side. I'm going to try the center strap, Thanks!!!
I also have the superior gear Starlite with straps and buckles. Will be using them as well on my Safari as they work very well. Either that or the becket hitch
You could stitch in some loops, on both ends and a couple along the bottom, to keep the strap centered. Even better. Stitch the foot end of the strap to the bottom of the foot end. If it stops at the very end, the foot end shouldn’t raise when you cinch the strap at the head
Great ideas. Man at the beginning of the video I thought to myself man he looks like he's at my sister in-laws house in Joshua Texas. Good to see a Texas youtuber. I just got into hammocking myself I purchased the Kammok Mantis from Texas based Kammok. Greetings from Bedford Tx.
I would switch out the tarp poles and add in Tensa Outdoors trekking treez or Tensa outdoors Tensa solo hammock stands because they can double as hammock stands or tarp stands.
I have ordered the onewind buckles and hope this is enough for the Haven Safari. Therm A Rest Mondoking costs € 270 and is a rather expensive update. For an already pricey setup.
I just picked up a Safari and have to say that the V is annoying as hell and the pad has to be inflated super firm to negate it. I wonder, if in production, they sewed a strap underneath and into the body, with loops at each end to attached small whoopee slings to the carabiner; if that would solve the V issue. 🤔 That being said, it is such a comfortable setup and am trying to decide if the Thermarest MondoKing XXL is worth the upgrade if I'm going to do the strap mod anyway.
I brought up the v crease issue to them but dont hold your breath on production mods. Possibly a different air pad in the future. As far as the Mondo King, its the most comfortable pad Ive ever been on. Did you see my vid on it?Haven XL air pad Upgrade/Thermarest Mondoking 3D XXL ruclips.net/video/KfAnxa58TeA/видео.html It doesn’t v crease near as bad and with the strap its non existent.
What about 2 straps underneath doing same method. Would that help for added stability? Also is it a known issue with the pad leaking air or something? I thought I heard about that issue and bug net zipper hard to close when inside?
Love that aerial footage good video it makes me want one of those hammocks but I have three hammocks already 2 one wind hammocks and a G4free hammock but who knows you might have sold me on this one lol
I tried adding the one wind strap under me amd it kept moving from the center and I’d wake up in weird positions. Haha. Any suggestions on how to keep it centered? Cause when it is centered it makes it way better.
Don't order it if you are Canadian. You will be charged full price plus $300 for shipping and you won't get it. It will cost you nearly $1000.00 to not have anything but regrets
Just to stay a bit objective here, shipping to Canada costs about 50-70$ and NOT 300$, I just checked. However you will be charged for shipping + duties + taxes which can indeed add up to nearly 300$ for a 700$ order but all of that is clearly broken down at checkout. So it's not like you didn't know about it when ordering.
That under strap idea is no good & see alot of people complaining about the tree straps but is it really that hard to raise or lower where the strap goes around the tree??
You know the cot really doesn’t make sense considering it’s a hammock/tent why would you need a cot and all that extra weight to carry when you can hang it 3.5/4 foot off the ground to be at the perfect height to sit up and get out of the hammock easier then it being pitched on the ground and the ridge line is well equipped for you to grab it and pull yourself up from a laying position.
I checked your channel, i see you did a video about onewind straps you did 5 months ago. My video was 8 months ago. So maybe I find it interesting that you did the exact same hack as my video. What a coincidence.
@@LifeWithKernelLee yeah, I already mentioned that in my above comment, my videos were 5 months ago but two separate videos and one was a short and one was a long form so I had those two ideas a two separate times. The reflectix i came up with because I used to be involved in van life. The new tree straps were similar to my AMOK hammock which is why I went with those.
@@the_original_bluegrassmoto you should never accuse another channel of stealing your ideas. It is possible many people have the same ideas. I dont appreciate your insinuations. I have never seen your channel before but does look like an interesting channel with content that I like. But you should never talk smack about another channel. Good day sir
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Very goid content, people like you bring society forward. Haven should listen to this and supply you with new products
Thanks, yes indeed
Thanks for sharing! I really want this Hammock . I sleep out in the winter! And it gets below 20° easily. I hope soon they will come up with a down under quilt and maybe even a rain protector. That will help insulate better.
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I use the DD extra long underquilt. I use a couple of short branch swing straps over the ridgeline to anchor the carabiners and it does pretty well. Also swapped out the built in rainfly for the 12ft OneWind hammock tarp. Much lighter and better coverage than the one that comes with it (rode out a heavy thunderstorm a couple of weeks ago with no issues).
@@willh7715 awesome, onewind tarps work great
Finally ordered my Haven Tent. Your videos were a huge part of my decision. 🎉
Awesome, I hope it serves you well. If you have any questions feel free to ask
Easy way to keep strap in middle, tied parachord on both ends with a loop in the middle to hold the strap centered. Tied it to the stake loops on the head and foot. Puts a loop near the head and foot to keep the strap in place.
Thats a great way to do it. I did try little bungees but didnt work very well. I like your idea
I’ve been tent camping off a motorcycle for 27 years. I sleep ok. I bought the haven XL because of all the positive comments and want to downsize from tent setup which Haven does nicely. Been in it 5 nights. 4 hanging and once on the ground. Have not had a good night sleep yet but will continue to work with it. Doing MABDR in July. Camping the whole way. Not sure if I’m doing the haven or my old tent…..
Yeah I’ve heard mixed opinions. I sleep in it better once I added the strap underneath.
Really? I bought mine in April. Didn't get a chance to use it until June. I've used it with some stands i made to go under my truck tires, and for a week in the Minnesota Boundary Waters hanging in trees. Anywhere from 85 degrees to 26 degrees. I havent had a bad nights sleep yet. I use the air pump to fill the pad and then always top it off myself. To stop the crease in the pad i just make sure it is fully inflated. Only time I have noticed it was the first tim when i only used the air pump, and this last weekend when it dropped froms mid 60's down to 26 degress overnight. I also make my ridgeline very taught. I use the original straps and whoopie slings pulled tight to tension the ridgeline.
I have an XL and I made a double strap to keep the center as straight as possible. It worked well.
Awesome, im still toying with mine to try and make it better. Still a great setup though
@@LifeWithKernelLee I whould sent some pics of that system, but here I can't do it. Maybe it would help you somehow.
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kernellee2@yahoo.com
Have the same problem with mine sagging in the middle thanks for the info
@@BobbyJackBland you bet, should check out my lates video
Haven True Level Pad VS Therm-a-rest Topo Luxe Pad
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I LOVE Onewind straps with cinch buckles . Way better than loops & carabiners .
Heck yeah
Very well made video, liked the beginning shots !! Great tips kernel using the cot , and then the extra tree straps !!
Thanks Mr. Hemlock, your videos are getting better and better. Glad to see your channel is growing.
@@LifeWithKernelLee thank you !!
Onewind straps look like a good idea.I see they come 10 or 12 foot x2 in a set.I like the orange for visibility ☮️
Yes, they are working well for me
Your hacks are great!!! I too am a big fan of Reflectix and use it with or without a pad in my regular hammock. Makes a big difference in heat retention...and cheap...Also loved the Haven and cot idea...genius I'd say!!! Thanks...Jim
Howdy Jim, I appreciate you dropping by, I try to share some different points with this set up. The reflectixs does make a huge difference and the cot set up is good for when no trees are available. Makes it easier getting in and out.
Love your trailer your getting that thing fixed up very nice !!!
Thank you, its great for solo trips
I love the idea too. I usually sleep in my horse float at events in a swag after shovelling the poo out. I know that sounds gross but horses are vegetarian. I like the idea of hanging the hammock. How long is the hammock? Just wondering if it’ll fit.
@@robynwhite5662 mine double nest Eno is 9 1/2’ long, not sure about the Kernels
Superior Gear straps work very well also. Same concept but they have a hole in the buckle so you don't have to pull the strap all the way through like you do with the One Wind straps. If you already have the straps you can buy the buckles only. I have replaced the buckles on my One Wind hammocks with Superior Gear buckles. Easier to set up, easier to adjust, and I think they are also a bit lighter. I love your idea of the cot under the Haven XL and the strap under the center. The "V" in the center has me setting the Haven XL to the side. I'm going to try the center strap, Thanks!!!
I haven’t heard of Superior Gear, I’ll have to check them out. Awesome, hope it works for you. Thanks for watching.
I also have the superior gear Starlite with straps and buckles. Will be using them as well on my Safari as they work very well. Either that or the becket hitch
@@27filster nice
great tips!!
Thank you
You could stitch in some loops, on both ends and a couple along the bottom, to keep the strap centered.
Even better. Stitch the foot end of the strap to the bottom of the foot end. If it stops at the very end, the foot end shouldn’t raise when you cinch the strap at the head
If i could sew I would
Would ratchet straps work instead of the tree straps?
Of course, whatever gets it off the ground
got mine ready for camping and just waiting for it not to be 96 degrees outside :)
Man I hear ya, Im ready for cooler weather. Just subscribed to you👍🏻
Great ideas. Man at the beginning of the video I thought to myself man he looks like he's at my sister in-laws house in Joshua Texas. Good to see a Texas youtuber. I just got into hammocking myself I purchased the Kammok Mantis from Texas based Kammok. Greetings from Bedford Tx.
Awesome, im just north of Fort Worth
Do you know if there any hammock camping gatherings in North Texas?
@@The5150owl Texas Hang, its usually Oct-Nov sometime
OK thanks. I actually looked it up online I just signed up for hammock forum
@@The5150owl awesome
I use whoopie slings to tighten up my tree straps
Those work good
I would switch out the tarp poles and add in Tensa Outdoors trekking treez or Tensa outdoors Tensa solo hammock stands because they can double as hammock stands or tarp stands.
Nice, great idea
Wow, super cheap at $215 per pole.
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The Tensa Solo stands are 75 bucks each.
I have ordered the onewind buckles and hope this is enough for the Haven Safari.
Therm A Rest Mondoking costs € 270 and is a rather expensive update. For an already pricey setup.
Nice, and yes I agree very pricey ,
Why not just sew in keepers like on your pants to hold your belt in place?
Thought about it, but have to learn to sew. I may try it when i get up the nerve.
I just picked up a Safari and have to say that the V is annoying as hell and the pad has to be inflated super firm to negate it. I wonder, if in production, they sewed a strap underneath and into the body, with loops at each end to attached small whoopee slings to the carabiner; if that would solve the V issue. 🤔
That being said, it is such a comfortable setup and am trying to decide if the Thermarest MondoKing XXL is worth the upgrade if I'm going to do the strap mod anyway.
I brought up the v crease issue to them but dont hold your breath on production mods. Possibly a different air pad in the future. As far as the Mondo King, its the most comfortable pad Ive ever been on. Did you see my vid on it?Haven XL air pad Upgrade/Thermarest Mondoking 3D XXL
ruclips.net/video/KfAnxa58TeA/видео.html
It doesn’t v crease near as bad and with the strap its non existent.
Looks like you're really dialing in that Haven
Oh yeah
Where you been?
Nice
Thanks
Seems to have ruined a perfectly good lay flat hammock. Just my opinion. Keep up the good work though brother. Can't wait for the next video.
Thanks for watching brother
How do you open the buckles after you have tighten them?
Just pull the two straps near the buckle together and buckle loosens. It doesnt take much
Thanks. I pulled it littlebit too tight so it was hard to get it loose. Now i know i shouldn’t pull them that tight! Thanks!
@@sienitohtori yeah i usually leave a little slack
What about 2 straps underneath doing same method. Would that help for added stability?
Also is it a known issue with the pad leaking air or something? I thought I heard about that issue and bug net zipper hard to close when inside?
Two straps would be better. My air pad has leaked from day one. I havent had any issues with the zipper they just need to make it a double zipper.
Love that aerial footage good video it makes me want one of those hammocks but I have three hammocks already 2 one wind hammocks and a G4free hammock but who knows you might have sold me on this one lol
Ha, you can always use more hammocks, i have a dozen or so
I tried adding the one wind strap under me amd it kept moving from the center and I’d wake up in weird positions. Haha. Any suggestions on how to keep it centered? Cause when it is centered it makes it way better.
Yes, Cal from Cals Adventures had his wife sew in 3 loops that the strap go through to keep it centered. I need to get mine done.
I was wondering if sewing into would ruin the integrity of the tent since I’m a bigger guy but that was my thought. Has that been successful?
@@docpursel8669 he has had no problem with it so far
Don't order it if you are Canadian. You will be charged full price plus $300 for shipping and you won't get it. It will cost you nearly $1000.00 to not have anything but regrets
@@daveagar5594 oh wow, no good
Just to stay a bit objective here, shipping to Canada costs about 50-70$ and NOT 300$, I just checked.
However you will be charged for shipping + duties + taxes which can indeed add up to nearly 300$ for a 700$ order but all of that is clearly broken down at checkout. So it's not like you didn't know about it when ordering.
@@Roman-nu1om crazy
That's cause Canada is third world and you vote to be slaves.
That under strap idea is no good & see alot of people complaining about the tree straps but is it really that hard to raise or lower where the strap goes around the tree??
Did you try the under strap? Works for me. Its not intended to raise or lower necessarily, its to get rid of the V crease down the center
Like your vids! But you always sound like you're gasping for air. Hope all is good!
@@sptraxide im good, thanks for watching
Thatsa flat lay?don't look very flat.....I got flatter in my Dutch..
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You know the cot really doesn’t make sense considering it’s a hammock/tent why would you need a cot and all that extra weight to carry when you can hang it 3.5/4 foot off the ground to be at the perfect height to sit up and get out of the hammock easier then it being pitched on the ground and the ridge line is well equipped for you to grab it and pull yourself up from a laying position.
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Sometimes you don't have trees to set up a hammock, and poles aren't strong enough to hold the weight. Cot makes a good compromise.
Indeed
I find it interesting that you took two of the exact hacks that I did 2 separate videos on and put them in your video. What a coincidence. 😠
Well sorry, never seen your channel before
Which two hacks?
I checked your channel, i see you did a video about onewind straps you did 5 months ago. My video was 8 months ago. So maybe I find it interesting that you did the exact same hack as my video. What a coincidence.
@@LifeWithKernelLee yeah, I already mentioned that in my above comment, my videos were 5 months ago but two separate videos and one was a short and one was a long form so I had those two ideas a two separate times. The reflectix i came up with because I used to be involved in van life. The new tree straps were similar to my AMOK hammock which is why I went with those.
@@the_original_bluegrassmoto you should never accuse another channel of stealing your ideas. It is possible many people have the same ideas. I dont appreciate your insinuations. I have never seen your channel before but does look like an interesting channel with content that I like. But you should never talk smack about another channel. Good day sir
This defeats the entire reason for using a Hammock tent wtf
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