Bruce Wayne The development costs went up and the market seemingly shrunk down - you're either indie or big publisher, nothing in-between. I miss it - a lot of my childhood games were those "middle ground" PC titles with a cult-classic status, but limited audience.
Whining Ylthin it really doesn't help that there is this notion that every game needs a several million dollar marketing budget with ludicrous gimmicks to be successful
I'm almost certian that Yoko Taro is blackmailing the entire upper management of Square Enix. That's the only reason I can come up with of why the Drakengard series is still alive to this day.
Szadek23 Somebody from the upper management is a huge fan of Taro's work. He supposedly stated that as long as Dragon Quest brings them money, Taro can make his games. That's also why they got Platinum to work at Automata - to ensure the game is technically good this time and boost the sales.
It's funny that the ost was one of the main things I fell in love with the game but I read many reviews where they felt the music is not varied enough and boring. Strange world.
The only thing I would add to that many recent Nier reviews is the fact that it goes one step beyond anything else with its' narrative. People say things like "games can't do anything a movie or a book didn't do better". Well, I think ending D proves that video games can do a truly unique narrative, only possible within this medium.
I agree strongly with this. With a video game developers are honestly only limited by their imagination at what they can create. There are SO many things you can do with a video game, even if it's simple. I would be lying if I said any moments from a lot of games stick with me as much as Ending D does. Very little things in any kind of media hit me as hard as that did.
People who say that "video gamese can't do anything that a book or movie can do better" either look down on video games as an art form or are the kind of people who just want games to emulate movies.
I love that youtubers are really putting an effort to garner attention towards NieR and ultimately Automata. That game *needs* attention and I love that it's getting it.
It's so funny to look back at videos about this franchise from before Automata put it on the map. Side quest fatigue definitely killed a lot of my enjoyment of the game, but I'll be damned if I don't get nostalgic as soon as I hear anything from the OST.
I really appreciate that you went out of the way to recommend people play the original NieR rather than making a synopsis video like other youtubers are doing with the intent on people skipping the original and diving straight into Automata. It honestly feels like people are going to have their experience cheapened unless they play the original. Or maybe I'm just a bitter fan who's salty about the attention these games have been getting from the mainstream gaming community after being dismissed for so long just because of Platinum being on board for the project.
I was gonna play the original NieR before Automata but there's were too many games I wanted came out from December 2016 up to Nier2's release. I'll be playing it after DS3's 2nd DLC and GR2 DLC comes out instead. Holy shit, the hype of Automata and the lack of digital version made Nier, a 7-year old game, to be as expensive or more than Nier Automata.
I dunno dude, I've watched all cutscenes and jumped into Nier Automata. I'll probably buy Nier just to support the original, but... I don't want to /play/ it
Despite coming out 7 years ago, I still haven't heard a game soundtrack better than Nier. Not even just on musical merit alone, but just how and where the music itself was used and the story its attached to adds so much more weight to an already stellar soundtrack. I really loved Nier, I'm glad it finally got its sequel.
He keeps saying that NieR isn't the best looking game, but he's wrong, the graphics might not be the sharpest, but no one can deny the quality of the visual design, it's fucking iconic.
I would add one thing to this review: if you've never played NieR before, and you're interested in giving it a try, do yourself a favor and try doing it with emulation. NieR and Drakengard are well beyond playable with emulators like RPCS3. In fact, they're even better on an emulator than they are on the native hardware. If your computer is good enough, it's definitely worth trying. You can even experience NieR Replicant (the Japanese version of the game with a slightly altered story) fully translated to English thanks to modern emulation. I played Automata years before playing NieR, and even though I had played the objectively "better" game first, I still fell in love with NieR. The clunky combat had a certain charm to it, probably because I could tell where a lot of the gameplay ideas came from for Automata. It was like seeing the early vision of what would eventually become the polished combat system we got in Automata.
I didn't really care for Nier before, but damn I wished I didn't watch SBH's video before this one. SBH didn't really give me a reason to want to play Nier, but Hyper here just did... eh I'll probably still play it anyways for the character development. I did the same for FF13 when I already played FF13-2 before it.
Second this idea heavily. I don't think many people understand just how different the game turned out compared to what it started as in Nomura's vision for Versus XIII.
Hey HyperBit! This series is spectacular in introducing players to a game as well as acting as a review. I watch reviews for games I haven't played and I don't get a real sense of anything besides a general - this is good, this is bad, but something to the way you acknowledge the flaws and try to build it up as being better than the sum of its parts usually makes me eager to play them. Keep doing what you are doing, your reviews are more influential to me than most!
I love this game sooo much! It really goes through all emotions. I usually don't like those games with a big map and several sidequests. Skyrim bored me, The Wichter 3 also cause they filled them not with the thing that drives one trough a world like that, neighter the mistery nor the empathy. It's usefull to know that you get nothing for completing sidequests in Nier, no XP and maybe a little reward. But this is the one game where I finished all of them in my first run of the game, even the fishing and gardening quests, because they rewarded me with something much more valuable than XP and something those other games just couldn't pull of right...little stories of the people that world. All centered around the themes of death, loss, sacrifice, sorrow. All in small steps. Like this... There is the *minor spoiler begin* story of an old sick man who has a dog he loves but he ran away. He want's to see him again, worries about him and just want's to connect again before he dies from illnes and he's of course sad that his long time companion left him. Eventually you find the dog dead, killed by shades with a leaf between his teeth. You go back to the old man, to tell him you found his dog with the theme "he will be heartbroken" only to find out the old man, you got to know though some small conversations, passed away due to his illnes. The person (can't remember who) you meet there gives a hint that the leaf you found is an incredient to a medicine for the old mans illness. *minor spoiler end* And there are the times when you go fishing and your pal, a book who can't do anything but talk, isn't allowed to talk because he would scare away the fishes and, while beeing the stick in the butt scolary type usually, get's cranky like a litte kid, cause he's bored which is sooo funny you...continue fishing! Just to piss him off! :D And there is Emile and the probably saddest moment (even for this game) you probalby encounter in any movie or game and I won't spoil it, just to be said, if the prologue of The Last of Us got you emotional attached, get ready to dry out out in this game! It's one of a kind and while Automata managed to have the better gameplay, Nier is still the superior game!
Nier was such an under rated game that I wish more people played it and saw just how beautiful and awesome this game is. As soon as I started playing it I just couldn't put it down. I'm so looking forward to playing the next one.
I absolutely loved this game, went through ending B, C and D all in one day to prepare for Automata. Hoping the sequel is as amazing (or...better) than the original
Oh man, thank you so much for giving this series more exposure. I love Nier and the Drakengard series so much, and I really hope Automata sells well. I'd love to see you tackle Drakengard 1 and 3 as well, but I know those games aren't the most easy to play through.
I love your videos hyperbithero and I do think this one does do a good job at selling the game, however I think you may of shown a bit TOO much of the game in this. Both in some pretty story important scenes as well as just the small little surprises like the book section which part of the fun was how unexpected it is. The only part I find particularly egregious is that you showed the shadowlord at all cause that part was kind of meant to be a big surprise especially with him taking yonah which you also showed.
Kinda confused cause the game is called Nier and the main characters name is Nier but Nier: automata has nothing to do Nier it is based on Androids and Machine Lifeforms.
I'll probably get the original Nier after beating the DMC HD Collection and hopefully get Nier Automata on steam since I don't have a PS4. I've been meaning to get into this series for a while actually and this video did a great job of giving me insight.
I like that if you get ending D you can't play again with the same name for nier unless you delete the system data, detail like that helps unchap my ass from having to farm rare items for some of the weapons.
Thank you for covering Nier especially in time for the sequel. It's certainly maintained a niche standing, and it's difficult to tell people what makes this game so amazing without ruining the magic. Despite telling most everyone who will give me the time that it's a game worth playing, I am still the only person I know who has played the game. I've loved it since its launch and consider it one of my favorites. I hope others will give it a chance and can get the same enjoyment out of the game that I have.
Thank you for this video. Compared especially to SBH's video you're actually focusing on the meat of the game and where it's focus is rather than the godamn wiki page. This is a game with edges blemishes and imperfections, but dang it, it's got heart and balls in ways most games just don't.
Ok, I finished the game last night with all 4 endings(You really only need to replay the game 3 times and make a final save before the final dungeon to get all the endings). I knew I would like it and I figured out that I was farther than 1/3 through the game. More like 2/3rds. I thought it was great and I felt down after I experienced everything....until I popped in Ryu Ga Gotoku Kenzan and saw the opening and cheered up instantly that is.(I am a simple man) Great game for what it was and I definitely want to play Automata and Drakengard at some point. I think I might want to play Drakengard 3 too...but we'll see. Great video HBH, I'm glad I chose not to watch this video before finishing the game. There are a lot of things visually that I never saw that I was glad to see for the first time without it hurting my experience a bit.
very nice video, picked up this game two years ago. Still haven't completely finished it but every once in a while I'll pick it back up and finish an ending.
My brother got Automata and has been urging me to play it, but I had to play the first one first, I have to do things in order. Hell, I watched Drakengard 3 and 1 online and read ALL the content around them, I'm that serious about it. Anyway, finally got this one, going through route B, and it's safe to say this is one of my favorite games now, IT'S SO GOOD! Hell, I loved the story of D3 as well, D1 was... interesting, to say the least, but can't wait to see how Automata plays out, Yoko Taro is a beutiful genius.
I'm really glad you managed to summerize why the original Nier is good and enticing people to play it (with minimal spoilers no less) instead of just making a straight up recap to get people up to speed with automata. No offence to people getting into the series via Automata, I just think the original is something where playing the whole thing or at least watching / reading a let's play (I suggest the Dark id for this and the drakengard franchise as a whole) is really worth it, especially for ending D.
I'd love to see what NieR would be like if it followed Drakengard's ending D instead of ending E. I wan't to fight me some giant scary floating cannibal babies.
Ha! I knew you'd do a Nier video! (or I just hoped) Nier is in my top3 games from the last generation. I can't put my finger on why I like it the most. The sum of it's parts makes a great and unique experience that I have a smile on my face every time a cool part jumps into my mind. More people should (have) play(ed) the first Nier game. I'm suffering my way through Drakengard to get the most out of the series :)
This is one of those games where I have a constant self-debate of whether I should play it myself, or just watch a play through. Gameplay looks kinda interesting but I heard it drags on.
I'll NEVER understand the gameplay complaints whenever people talk about Nier. It's the reason why I was so hyped about the game until when it was released I instantly forgot it when it was destroyed by reviewers. I only went back and finished it 4 years later when I found out how shit most reviewers taste in games/combat was. It's not bad by any measure and every weapon feels very different, both in weight and range. There really aren't SO many action RPG to get to say that its combat is anything but above average.
The combat is average dude. If it weren't because you unlock more weapons and attacks later on (and most attacks are not really helpful), what you get on the first two hours is what you get till you finish the game. It's repetitive as hell until the end, with 30 seconds of actual enjoyment with each bossfight and nonde with the usual enemies.
Actually just finished this game this week. Took me several months to finish (I don't have much time to play games these days). Shit was so dark (and good). I didn't realize there were 4 endings... I might just watch them online instead of trying to unlock all of them since I already dumped a stupid amount of time into this.
This series is a great idea! I love it. And I love Nier. You should look up Xenosaga, if you like Nier. They're obviously different, but there are quite a few similarities.
I watched the cutscenes/dialogue for both drakengard and nier on youtube instead of playing the games in preparation for automata. If you're interested in automata and want to learn the story before playing like I did I recommend you do the same, the actual gameplay for both these games, especially drakengard is not very good but the story is very intriguing. Also reading up on the nier timeline found on the wiki is a good way to get an overall idea about the events of the spin off novellas/stories which are key to fully understanding the story.
NieR is one of the few games that takes full advantage of being a video game with it's story *cough cough* The Last of Us doesn't even try*cough cough*
_"It just sort of does what it wants because it was directed by a crazy man [...]"_ Combining a crazy visionary like Yoko Taro with a developer that can make very mechanically sound games was a terrific move which I hope continues into the future.
I know it's a visual novel, but have you ever considered doing a your next favourite on Danganronpa? It seems like something that'd be right up your alley, if a bit weird at times
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I mean i agree with everything you're saying, but back when Nier came out I would've thoguht you were beying way too critical. When this game came out I was blown away by how much fun I had playing it. The closest thing I've played to nier, before nier, was like... Crisis Core or something. You gotta keep in mind this game came out in like 2011.
I've heard nothing but amazing things about this game, and I actually was *very* interested in buying and playing it on my PS3 about several or so months ago. Sadly, the game has seen *massive* price spikes since the announcement and release of it's sequel (in Japan,) so getting it was just a bit too hard just about anywhere I looked. Unless the game gets a remaster on PS4 or the prices for it eventually goes down, I and many others will never be able to play it, and that just sucks considering how incredibly good it looks.
I fell in love with the soundtrack when it came out, but I didn't buy a PS3 for a few years, so by the time I had the means to play it, the game wasn't really reasonably priced anymore. Looking now, it seems like it's gone down in price again and is only about $40, so maybe I'll finally pick it up. Having to dust off the PS3 and play it on that isn't an especially appealing idea, though, so maybe I won't and will just wait for it to be emulatable in a few (maybe several) years.
nier is my favourite game. Even with the flaws in its gameplay and visuals the story and soundtrack are enough to make it stand out as one of my favourite video game experiences. I can't wait for automata and I hope it is able to surpass nier in every way possible
Check out Clemp's analysis of Nier for an in-depth look at this game's crazy story. Especially if you want to play Automata but don't want to go back and play the first game.
The combat isn't the better ever made but I thought it was better than people give it credit, while nowhere near Bayonetta levels of combat, I still had fun with NieR's combat despite being simplistic.
this dips a little bit too deep into spoiler territory for me. It just goes over that line between "recommending to someone who has never heard of it before" and into the "giving away TOO much about what makes the game special" but maybe that's just me.
Here's three tips: 1. skip any side quest that requires you to get arbitrary items from enemies. 2. Get the Phoenix Spear in the Facade the desert village. Makes combat cheap but insanly op and you'll want it to be made easy after your second playthrough which you'll do because; 3. Beat it 4 times. Skip no cutscenes. Do it. Don't bitch or moan. DO IT! You'll thank me later or your a scrub if you don't
Shamon nier has a lot of side quests. rewards aren't great but most have party dialog while walking around and their banter is fun to hear. Other side quests are a chore. Collect 5 boar ass sorta thing. It's all on how much extra you want to put in a playthrough. You're gonna be running the gambit for endings (worst that's required is just to get all weapons in game and those aren't to hard) so the side quests can wear on you.
Nier really was a fantastic ride, one of the few games that makes you keep playing because of it's story. I heard Drakenguard 3 was a little weaker but is it still worth experiencing? Some people have said the localization fucked around with it a bit but I still want to give it a whirl if it's not too bad.
Jesus, that DLC is more expensive than the main game. If I'm buying Drakenguard 3 I ain't paying for that. I'm mostly worried about 8-4's track record of changing dialogue and character personalities in their localizations than the price though.
I dont recommend Drakengard 3 , its shit and is concious about that (some parts mock the level design and so on) and the final boss is one of the most sadist/bullshit things a videogame can do to a player. About the localization, i actually like it, true they give Zero a bitch personality instead of an "empty" one but it still works.
Another great video, man! Congratulations, but I must say the I did not like very much of the game, besides his story I just feel that I won't play to enjoy the story and suffer to play it. That said, I agreed with you and hope the Nier: Automata game be a great game, I play Drakengard back then and I like very much, didn't finish but that is another story. Good videos and good luck to you! =D
I wish consoles had more of these weird midbudget japanese games. The ps2 was loaded with them but theyre all gone now.
Bruce Wayne The development costs went up and the market seemingly shrunk down - you're either indie or big publisher, nothing in-between. I miss it - a lot of my childhood games were those "middle ground" PC titles with a cult-classic status, but limited audience.
Whining Ylthin it really doesn't help that there is this notion that every game needs a several million dollar marketing budget with ludicrous gimmicks to be successful
Bruce Wayne Vita ports on PS4 basically fill that void.
There are Vita games and higher-budget indie titles, but it means a) owning a Vita, b) digging through piles upon piles of indie games.
World of FF and Gravity Rush aren't on PC which is what I was mostly referring to.
But yea most are on PC. PC has most everything.
I'm almost certian that Yoko Taro is blackmailing the entire upper management of Square Enix.
That's the only reason I can come up with of why the Drakengard series is still alive to this day.
Szadek23 Somebody from the upper management is a huge fan of Taro's work. He supposedly stated that as long as Dragon Quest brings them money, Taro can make his games.
That's also why they got Platinum to work at Automata - to ensure the game is technically good this time and boost the sales.
Whining Ylthin Really? I think that's great in a medium where money is almost all that matters
Your Next Favorite Soundtrack. It's difficult to overstate just how fucking GOOD the ost is.
I've probably annoyed most people who discuss music with me as I'll continuously praise Nier for having one of the best soundtracks every composed.
It's funny that the ost was one of the main things I fell in love with the game but I read many reviews where they felt the music is not varied enough and boring. Strange world.
pseudogenesis have you listened to Automata's ost yet? It somehow surpasses its predecessor. It's so good!
str8Jonesing I haven't, I didn't even know it was out! Do you have a link?
The only game capable of beating this game OST is Bully imo.
The only thing I would add to that many recent Nier reviews is the fact that it goes one step beyond anything else with its' narrative. People say things like "games can't do anything a movie or a book didn't do better". Well, I think ending D proves that video games can do a truly unique narrative, only possible within this medium.
I agree strongly with this. With a video game developers are honestly only limited by their imagination at what they can create. There are SO many things you can do with a video game, even if it's simple. I would be lying if I said any moments from a lot of games stick with me as much as Ending D does. Very little things in any kind of media hit me as hard as that did.
People who say that "video gamese can't do anything that a book or movie can do better" either look down on video games as an art form or are the kind of people who just want games to emulate movies.
I love that youtubers are really putting an effort to garner attention towards NieR and ultimately Automata. That game *needs* attention and I love that it's getting it.
Nison545 Then you find out they're mostly paid promotions.
LOL that would not be the best move on their part.
+Diet Mountain Madewka You nailed it.
Hell yea. I actually just beat automata and I'm doing a review on it. Automata is easily platinum's best game you guys should seriously check it out
+SkyrimSoldier That's a pretty big accusation. Something like an undisclosed sponsorship would get someone into a lot of legal trouble.
"Deadly Premonition | Your Next Favorite"
must happen
It's so funny to look back at videos about this franchise from before Automata put it on the map. Side quest fatigue definitely killed a lot of my enjoyment of the game, but I'll be damned if I don't get nostalgic as soon as I hear anything from the OST.
I really appreciate that you went out of the way to recommend people play the original NieR rather than making a synopsis video like other youtubers are doing with the intent on people skipping the original and diving straight into Automata. It honestly feels like people are going to have their experience cheapened unless they play the original. Or maybe I'm just a bitter fan who's salty about the attention these games have been getting from the mainstream gaming community after being dismissed for so long just because of Platinum being on board for the project.
I was gonna play the original NieR before Automata but there's were too many games I wanted came out from December 2016 up to Nier2's release. I'll be playing it after DS3's 2nd DLC and GR2 DLC comes out instead.
Holy shit, the hype of Automata and the lack of digital version made Nier, a 7-year old game, to be as expensive or more than Nier Automata.
I dunno dude, I've watched all cutscenes and jumped into Nier Automata. I'll probably buy Nier just to support the original, but... I don't want to /play/ it
the story is bullshit anyway lel
It's kinda hard to get your hands and even when you do your gonna have to suffer some insanely repetitive gameplay
Huke Sama the average price of Nier in the PAL region is 15-20 bucks.
Got my 360 version for like 17.
Is it that bad elsewhere?
I love how much hype NieR is getting. I'm so happy that we're getting a game that has gameplay on par with Yoko Taro's vision.
Despite coming out 7 years ago, I still haven't heard a game soundtrack better than Nier. Not even just on musical merit alone, but just how and where the music itself was used and the story its attached to adds so much more weight to an already stellar soundtrack. I really loved Nier, I'm glad it finally got its sequel.
He keeps saying that NieR isn't the best looking game, but he's wrong, the graphics might not be the sharpest, but no one can deny the quality of the visual design, it's fucking iconic.
I would add one thing to this review: if you've never played NieR before, and you're interested in giving it a try, do yourself a favor and try doing it with emulation. NieR and Drakengard are well beyond playable with emulators like RPCS3. In fact, they're even better on an emulator than they are on the native hardware. If your computer is good enough, it's definitely worth trying. You can even experience NieR Replicant (the Japanese version of the game with a slightly altered story) fully translated to English thanks to modern emulation.
I played Automata years before playing NieR, and even though I had played the objectively "better" game first, I still fell in love with NieR. The clunky combat had a certain charm to it, probably because I could tell where a lot of the gameplay ideas came from for Automata. It was like seeing the early vision of what would eventually become the polished combat system we got in Automata.
Everyone is covering nier.
Superbunnyhops
Mr. clemps.
Even this man.
Good games attract good people.
Takaya Sakaki Unlike those videos, this isn't a plot summary. I'd say this video is the antithesis of SBH's video.
I love you
I didn't really care for Nier before, but damn I wished I didn't watch SBH's video before this one. SBH didn't really give me a reason to want to play Nier, but Hyper here just did... eh I'll probably still play it anyways for the character development. I did the same for FF13 when I already played FF13-2 before it.
but he's the only decent one :(
Papa Nier is cuter than Saber
debatable
「kragor」 no
If anything else I prefer Papa Nier's design over Replicant's Brother Nier.
Emil is cuter than Saber.
Nicolas Liz Lima
But isn't as cute as big bro replicant though.
"turns into a visual novel"
I thought it was a text adventure. There was no fanservice in it after all.
So any thoughts on a Final Fantasy Versus XIII Lost In Concept video?
Second this idea heavily. I don't think many people understand just how different the game turned out compared to what it started as in Nomura's vision for Versus XIII.
I'll be happy to see that too.
Takeshi Fujiwara Yea a Versus XIII trilogy about emo gits sounds amazing.
+Thanatos388
Beats the unfinished game with an unfinished story and a main character with no personality that we got.
Hey HyperBit!
This series is spectacular in introducing players to a game as well as acting as a review. I watch reviews for games I haven't played and I don't get a real sense of anything besides a general - this is good, this is bad, but something to the way you acknowledge the flaws and try to build it up as being better than the sum of its parts usually makes me eager to play them. Keep doing what you are doing, your reviews are more influential to me than most!
I love this game sooo much! It really goes through all emotions. I usually don't like those games with a big map and several sidequests. Skyrim bored me, The Wichter 3 also cause they filled them not with the thing that drives one trough a world like that, neighter the mistery nor the empathy.
It's usefull to know that you get nothing for completing sidequests in Nier, no XP and maybe a little reward. But this is the one game where I finished all of them in my first run of the game, even the fishing and gardening quests, because they rewarded me with something much more valuable than XP and something those other games just couldn't pull of right...little stories of the people that world. All centered around the themes of death, loss, sacrifice, sorrow. All in small steps. Like this...
There is the *minor spoiler begin* story of an old sick man who has a dog he loves but he ran away. He want's to see him again, worries about him and just want's to connect again before he dies from illnes and he's of course sad that his long time companion left him. Eventually you find the dog dead, killed by shades with a leaf between his teeth. You go back to the old man, to tell him you found his dog with the theme "he will be heartbroken" only to find out the old man, you got to know though some small conversations, passed away due to his illnes. The person (can't remember who) you meet there gives a hint that the leaf you found is an incredient to a medicine for the old mans illness. *minor spoiler end*
And there are the times when you go fishing and your pal, a book who can't do anything but talk, isn't allowed to talk because he would scare away the fishes and, while beeing the stick in the butt scolary type usually, get's cranky like a litte kid, cause he's bored which is sooo funny you...continue fishing! Just to piss him off! :D
And there is Emile and the probably saddest moment (even for this game) you probalby encounter in any movie or game and I won't spoil it, just to be said, if the prologue of The Last of Us got you emotional attached, get ready to dry out out in this game! It's one of a kind and while Automata managed to have the better gameplay, Nier is still the superior game!
Even though I have no idea why Enix keeps letting Taro make games, I couldn't be happier that they do.
Nier was such an under rated game that I wish more people played it and saw just how beautiful and awesome this game is. As soon as I started playing it I just couldn't put it down. I'm so looking forward to playing the next one.
Yoko Taro gives me hope for gaming. So much fucking passion.
The remake/remaster of this game was so good
the best "under the radar"-channel there is!
This is one of my favorite channels
Fool, jank is what I live for.
I absolutely loved this game, went through ending B, C and D all in one day to prepare for Automata. Hoping the sequel is as amazing (or...better) than the original
Oh man, thank you so much for giving this series more exposure. I love Nier and the Drakengard series so much, and I really hope Automata sells well. I'd love to see you tackle Drakengard 1 and 3 as well, but I know those games aren't the most easy to play through.
I love your videos hyperbithero and I do think this one does do a good job at selling the game, however I think you may of shown a bit TOO much of the game in this. Both in some pretty story important scenes as well as just the small little surprises like the book section which part of the fun was how unexpected it is. The only part I find particularly egregious is that you showed the shadowlord at all cause that part was kind of meant to be a big surprise especially with him taking yonah which you also showed.
If only NieR got this attention when it came out rather than a 6.0 rating.
Kinda confused cause the game is called Nier and the main characters name is Nier but Nier: automata has nothing to do Nier it is based on Androids and Machine Lifeforms.
I don't really get why people put down the gameplay so much. The gameplay is great and unique.
I'll probably get the original Nier after beating the DMC HD Collection and hopefully get Nier Automata on steam since I don't have a PS4. I've been meaning to get into this series for a while actually and this video did a great job of giving me insight.
I like that if you get ending D you can't play again with the same name for nier unless you delete the system data, detail like that helps unchap my ass from having to farm rare items for some of the weapons.
A bunch of really good NieR videos coming out lately, I might have to check out Automata. Good job, man.
Thank you for covering Nier especially in time for the sequel. It's certainly maintained a niche standing, and it's difficult to tell people what makes this game so amazing without ruining the magic. Despite telling most everyone who will give me the time that it's a game worth playing, I am still the only person I know who has played the game. I've loved it since its launch and consider it one of my favorites. I hope others will give it a chance and can get the same enjoyment out of the game that I have.
Nice video. I'm so glad that lately NieR is getting the recognition it deserves.
Want the full analysis of the series? Watch Clemps!
Thank you for this video. Compared especially to SBH's video you're actually focusing on the meat of the game and where it's focus is rather than the godamn wiki page. This is a game with edges blemishes and imperfections, but dang it, it's got heart and balls in ways most games just don't.
Ok, I finished the game last night with all 4 endings(You really only need to replay the game 3 times and make a final save before the final dungeon to get all the endings).
I knew I would like it and I figured out that I was farther than 1/3 through the game. More like 2/3rds. I thought it was great and I felt down after I experienced everything....until I popped in Ryu Ga Gotoku Kenzan and saw the opening and cheered up instantly that is.(I am a simple man)
Great game for what it was and I definitely want to play Automata and Drakengard at some point. I think I might want to play Drakengard 3 too...but we'll see. Great video HBH, I'm glad I chose not to watch this video before finishing the game. There are a lot of things visually that I never saw that I was glad to see for the first time without it hurting my experience a bit.
very nice video, picked up this game two years ago. Still haven't completely finished it but every once in a while I'll pick it back up and finish an ending.
If only I could GET THIS DAMN GAME! I'm in love with it and I haven't even been able to play it.
My brother got Automata and has been urging me to play it, but I had to play the first one first, I have to do things in order. Hell, I watched Drakengard 3 and 1 online and read ALL the content around them, I'm that serious about it. Anyway, finally got this one, going through route B, and it's safe to say this is one of my favorite games now, IT'S SO GOOD! Hell, I loved the story of D3 as well, D1 was... interesting, to say the least, but can't wait to see how Automata plays out, Yoko Taro is a beutiful genius.
I'm really glad you managed to summerize why the original Nier is good and enticing people to play it (with minimal spoilers no less) instead of just making a straight up recap to get people up to speed with automata.
No offence to people getting into the series via Automata, I just think the original is something where playing the whole thing or at least watching / reading a let's play (I suggest the Dark id for this and the drakengard franchise as a whole) is really worth it, especially for ending D.
I'd love to see what NieR would be like if it followed Drakengard's ending D instead of ending E. I wan't to fight me some giant scary floating cannibal babies.
Recently finished it and got all the endings. really enjoyed it for what it was even with it's few flaws (few to me)
Ha! I knew you'd do a Nier video! (or I just hoped) Nier is in my top3 games from the last generation. I can't put my finger on why I like it the most. The sum of it's parts makes a great and unique experience that I have a smile on my face every time a cool part jumps into my mind. More people should (have) play(ed) the first Nier game. I'm suffering my way through Drakengard to get the most out of the series :)
It's actually nice to see NieR finally starting to get the attention it deserves.
Dude you've successfully what will this series become after Automata, and Yes it is AWESOME
This is one of those games where I have a constant self-debate of whether I should play it myself, or just watch a play through. Gameplay looks kinda interesting but I heard it drags on.
I'll NEVER understand the gameplay complaints whenever people talk about Nier. It's the reason why I was so hyped about the game until when it was released I instantly forgot it when it was destroyed by reviewers. I only went back and finished it 4 years later when I found out how shit most reviewers taste in games/combat was. It's not bad by any measure and every weapon feels very different, both in weight and range. There really aren't SO many action RPG to get to say that its combat is anything but above average.
The combat is average dude. If it weren't because you unlock more weapons and attacks later on (and most attacks are not really helpful), what you get on the first two hours is what you get till you finish the game. It's repetitive as hell until the end, with 30 seconds of actual enjoyment with each bossfight and nonde with the usual enemies.
Actually just finished this game this week. Took me several months to finish (I don't have much time to play games these days). Shit was so dark (and good). I didn't realize there were 4 endings... I might just watch them online instead of trying to unlock all of them since I already dumped a stupid amount of time into this.
This series is a great idea! I love it. And I love Nier.
You should look up Xenosaga, if you like Nier. They're obviously different, but there are quite a few similarities.
MrClemps+Hyperbithero= dream duo.
You kept me waiting, Boss.
Yoko Taro is like the Takeshi Kitano of video games
I watched the cutscenes/dialogue for both drakengard and nier on youtube instead of playing the games in preparation for automata. If you're interested in automata and want to learn the story before playing like I did I recommend you do the same, the actual gameplay for both these games, especially drakengard is not very good but the story is very intriguing. Also reading up on the nier timeline found on the wiki is a good way to get an overall idea about the events of the spin off novellas/stories which are key to fully understanding the story.
NieR is one of the few games that takes full advantage of being a video game with it's story *cough cough* The Last of Us doesn't even try*cough cough*
_"It just sort of does what it wants because it was directed by a crazy man [...]"_
Combining a crazy visionary like Yoko Taro with a developer that can make very mechanically sound games was a terrific move which I hope continues into the future.
That nice lady forgot to wear her pants
I was actually hoping you'd do one of these for this series since it looks pretty interesting...
Nier is one of my favorite games ever, it's a shame not that many people have played.
I know it's a visual novel, but have you ever considered doing a your next favourite on Danganronpa? It seems like something that'd be right up your alley, if a bit weird at times
You know what would be totes awesome? Platinum games remake of Nier where you can choose to play as Brother Nier or Dad Nier.
"Oh fug! Dad's a benis!!!"
this game is so good it's a sin if you never played it. hopefully square enix remasters it for current gen.
"It's no Fate/Stay Night"
God I fucking hope not.
Came in and 16 likes and 5 dislikes. Whut?!
Just some auto disliker someone has set to my videos. Has happened instantly to my past 3 videos now.
Please leave a like to counteract it. Thank you!
Edit: See, now they're gone. What's up with that?
HyperBitHero I only see 1 dislike
MAGIC!
what a strange place youtube is
I just watched the cutscenes and bought Automata. I'm IN LOVE with the game! Thanks Dad!
I mean i agree with everything you're saying, but back when Nier came out I would've thoguht you were beying way too critical. When this game came out I was blown away by how much fun I had playing it. The closest thing I've played to nier, before nier, was like... Crisis Core or something. You gotta keep in mind this game came out in like 2011.
I've heard nothing but amazing things about this game, and I actually was *very* interested in buying and playing it on my PS3 about several or so months ago. Sadly, the game has seen *massive* price spikes since the announcement and release of it's sequel (in Japan,) so getting it was just a bit too hard just about anywhere I looked. Unless the game gets a remaster on PS4 or the prices for it eventually goes down, I and many others will never be able to play it, and that just sucks considering how incredibly good it looks.
Out of curiosity, is Way of the Samurai anything you'd consider making a YNF for, or does it not warrant that in your eyes?
I hate that I often forget about Way of the Samurai. I'd love to see a fifth. Wonder what HBH thinks of it. I hardly ever hear anyone talk about it.
wow I'm definitly checking out Automata. I always thought that these Nier games where turn-based JRPGs
DadNier is best NieR
10/10 would NieR again
nier automata is on the top of steam sales. rejoice!
I fell in love with the soundtrack when it came out, but I didn't buy a PS3 for a few years, so by the time I had the means to play it, the game wasn't really reasonably priced anymore. Looking now, it seems like it's gone down in price again and is only about $40, so maybe I'll finally pick it up. Having to dust off the PS3 and play it on that isn't an especially appealing idea, though, so maybe I won't and will just wait for it to be emulatable in a few (maybe several) years.
If anybody wants a full analysis of Drakengard 1, 2, 3, and NieR Then look for a youtuber named Clemps.
nier is my favourite game. Even with the flaws in its gameplay and visuals the story and soundtrack are enough to make it stand out as one of my favourite video game experiences. I can't wait for automata and I hope it is able to surpass nier in every way possible
oh thank christ you pronounce Automata the correct way. why does everyone else seem to pronounce it wrong
Automato
if you found this comment, go look at clemps' drakengard/nier franchise for more lore.
you wont be disappointed.
let's be real here. Without 2b's butt memes, no one would've looked on this franchise lol
I want platinum to remake Nier, and drakengard.
Jokes on you. Nier has already been my favorite game for years.
It’s the best looking and the best playing game to me tbh
Check out Clemp's analysis of Nier for an in-depth look at this game's crazy story. Especially if you want to play Automata but don't want to go back and play the first game.
It's a Nier perfect game.
Worlds best dad.
The combat isn't the better ever made but I thought it was better than people give it credit, while nowhere near Bayonetta levels of combat, I still had fun with NieR's combat despite being simplistic.
love Nier, best soundtrack ever, awesome story
Now, if I only I could find a copy.
what's the clip from 7:18 from?
btw great video HBH
Just in time for the sequel. Shame there isn't a way for PC gamers to play the first one (outside of emulation of course).
More people need to play this
I didnt know nier was related to drakengard, i love drakengard 1. Still got it for the ps2.
I'd love to buy the first nier but it's rare as hell here, the only EB games that has it is at the other side of the country.
So are you going to give Nier the same treatment as Gravity Rush and talk about Automata when it comes out?
this dips a little bit too deep into spoiler territory for me. It just goes over that line between "recommending to someone who has never heard of it before" and into the "giving away TOO much about what makes the game special" but maybe that's just me.
hell yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssss new hyperbit vid!!!
Here's three tips: 1. skip any side quest that requires you to get arbitrary items from enemies. 2. Get the Phoenix Spear in the Facade the desert village. Makes combat cheap but insanly op and you'll want it to be made easy after your second playthrough which you'll do because; 3. Beat it 4 times. Skip no cutscenes. Do it. Don't bitch or moan. DO IT!
You'll thank me later or your a scrub if you don't
Greatnocturn Why tip 1?
Shamon nier has a lot of side quests. rewards aren't great but most have party dialog while walking around and their banter is fun to hear. Other side quests are a chore. Collect 5 boar ass sorta thing. It's all on how much extra you want to put in a playthrough. You're gonna be running the gambit for endings (worst that's required is just to get all weapons in game and those aren't to hard) so the side quests can wear on you.
Nier really was a fantastic ride, one of the few games that makes you keep playing because of it's story. I heard Drakenguard 3 was a little weaker but is it still worth experiencing? Some people have said the localization fucked around with it a bit but I still want to give it a whirl if it's not too bad.
Nothing Here Square bullshited us with prequel DLC content. It's hella expensive, but expands the lore and backstory of certain characters.
Jesus, that DLC is more expensive than the main game. If I'm buying Drakenguard 3 I ain't paying for that. I'm mostly worried about 8-4's track record of changing dialogue and character personalities in their localizations than the price though.
I dont recommend Drakengard 3 , its shit and is concious about that (some parts mock the level design and so on) and the final boss is one of the most sadist/bullshit things a videogame can do to a player.
About the localization, i actually like it, true they give Zero a bitch personality instead of an "empty" one but it still works.
Another great video, man! Congratulations, but I must say the I did not like very much of the game, besides his story I just feel that I won't play to enjoy the story and suffer to play it. That said, I agreed with you and hope the Nier: Automata game be a great game, I play Drakengard back then and I like very much, didn't finish but that is another story. Good videos and good luck to you! =D