The GPS tech and introduction of new satellite networks has really come along leaps and bounds the past decade. I'm still yet to own a real GPS and honestly doubt I ever will. Great tips on how to do this properly guys, nice work.
I thought you were old school, with a GPS.... I've learnt something about you mate. Hehehe. I don't think I'll ever have a dedicated GPS device, even with their pro's.
@@TheAussieGeocacherSeemyshell my first 1000 finds were on a TomTom in car GPS. Back then there were a lot of hacks for Car GPS devices as phones didn't have them yet! Then I got the short-lived Garmin-Asus phone. Failed as a marketing project as it wasn't the best phone and only ever got one model, But it was brilliant for geocaching as it was the first to really show what a smartphone could do if you put a "real" GPS chip in one and then all the other big phone players caught on a little while later.
@@TheAussieGeocacherSeemyshell I think I could store about 500 caches as POIs, they each had their own offical icon, and some VERY basic info like the DT, cache name and hint. That's it! Had to make do back in those dark ages of technology hahaha
Lots of great info in this. I worry about getting good coords, so I do a lot of samples in Cachly and test then thoroughly. I may have to try that other app too.
Very informative! I’m an iPhone/cachly user for grabbing coords for my hides- seems to be working well. Back when i first started in2012, I definitely had issues with very soft bad coords. And even when I started up hiding again this year, after a few year hiatus, my coords were aggravatingly off. Took a few hides to get it down.
Anytime Pauline, you will also find if you need to come back to the video for tips, I have created a 'Timecode' in the description, so you can easily find the device that you are using. Cheers. :)
I've found ios a very poor gps compared to equal market value Android which is always close to spot on. I have found that GPS's that have external aerials rather than inbuilt are more reliable. It all comes down to what device the finder is using which have great variance.
I have only ever cached with an iOS device, over 7k finds, both urban and signal less bush, no issues. I have also placed over 100 caches with iOS, and no complaints regarding GZ coords. I take it you are an Android user. haha... We tested all three devices on the day, all had a coordinate within 1mtr (4ft)
I'll agree to disagree on this subject, all three devices that we tested were so close that its almost insignificant. Also I find Cachly the BEST app for the iOS device.
Yep, and regardless of accurate your device is, or think it is, it really doesn't matter because you have no guarantee how accurate the cache owner was in providing the coordinates. Get close, put the device down, and hone your geosenses. Nonetheless, as a cache owner, you still want to provide the best coordinates you can, obv :) I tend to use satellite imagery to verify your coordinates (just not take them) - just to make sure you're not on the other side of the country or world because the signal hadn't settled when you read the coords, and that can happen on phones and handhelds! The annoying thing with formats is various inputs on geocaching.com may or may not understand or correct what you enter to the proper DDM format. Some require one format, others understand everything. blargh
Very true mate, although here in Australia we have a pretty good accuracy with our wide open spaces. . The reviewer who reached out to me asked that everyone use the DDM format, even though the website sometimes corrects them. Glad you enjoyed the video mate, its much longer than what I'm used to producing. Haha
@@TheAussieGeocacherSeemyshell You know, I have a theory. Sometimes if there's a single digit for the whole minute, the conversion may not be accurate (depends how they parse the string) - eg 05.123 may be parsed correctly but 5.123 may not, and in the latter case may be converted to incorrect coordinates... *shrug* I still chalk it up to web development implementations, UX design more than user error :) I think the various coordinate formats aren't covered enough in 101's for people to know the difference. Could make a good topic!
@@cachetheline The best idea is to not get into a situation where you need to convert. Measure in DD MM.MMM and absolutely never in DD MM SS which has a precision of only about 30 metres. Fine for navigating a ship, but not good enough for us.
The official geocaching app is free. Also google or Apple Maps is free, but you will need to do your own averages over a few days to get good coordinates
The GPS tech and introduction of new satellite networks has really come along leaps and bounds the past decade. I'm still yet to own a real GPS and honestly doubt I ever will. Great tips on how to do this properly guys, nice work.
I thought you were old school, with a GPS.... I've learnt something about you mate. Hehehe.
I don't think I'll ever have a dedicated GPS device, even with their pro's.
@@TheAussieGeocacherSeemyshell my first 1000 finds were on a TomTom in car GPS. Back then there were a lot of hacks for Car GPS devices as phones didn't have them yet! Then I got the short-lived Garmin-Asus phone. Failed as a marketing project as it wasn't the best phone and only ever got one model, But it was brilliant for geocaching as it was the first to really show what a smartphone could do if you put a "real" GPS chip in one and then all the other big phone players caught on a little while later.
@@FixitFingers Caching with a car GPS, now that is impressive...
@@TheAussieGeocacherSeemyshell I think I could store about 500 caches as POIs, they each had their own offical icon, and some VERY basic info like the DT, cache name and hint. That's it! Had to make do back in those dark ages of technology hahaha
Lots of great info in this. I worry about getting good coords, so I do a lot of samples in Cachly and test then thoroughly. I may have to try that other app too.
We found, Cachly, GPS Averaging, the GPS and the Android all were within 6ft of each other.
Very informative! I’m an iPhone/cachly user for grabbing coords for my hides- seems to be working well. Back when i first started in2012, I definitely had issues with very soft bad coords. And even when I started up hiding again this year, after a few year hiatus, my coords were aggravatingly off. Took a few hides to get it down.
The devices are improving, along with more satellites, makes for a more accurate reading. :)
Brilliant. Thank you
Anytime Pauline, you will also find if you need to come back to the video for tips, I have created a 'Timecode' in the description, so you can easily find the device that you are using. Cheers. :)
I've found ios a very poor gps compared to equal market value Android which is always close to spot on.
I have found that GPS's that have external aerials rather than inbuilt are more reliable.
It all comes down to what device the finder is using which have great variance.
I have only ever cached with an iOS device, over 7k finds, both urban and signal less bush, no issues. I have also placed over 100 caches with iOS, and no complaints regarding GZ coords. I take it you are an Android user. haha... We tested all three devices on the day, all had a coordinate within 1mtr (4ft)
@@TheAussieGeocacherSeemyshell No, I have used them since iphone 4. The more more I use them the more I am pushed the Android.
I'll agree to disagree on this subject, all three devices that we tested were so close that its almost insignificant.
Also I find Cachly the BEST app for the iOS device.
Yep, and regardless of accurate your device is, or think it is, it really doesn't matter because you have no guarantee how accurate the cache owner was in providing the coordinates. Get close, put the device down, and hone your geosenses. Nonetheless, as a cache owner, you still want to provide the best coordinates you can, obv :) I tend to use satellite imagery to verify your coordinates (just not take them) - just to make sure you're not on the other side of the country or world because the signal hadn't settled when you read the coords, and that can happen on phones and handhelds!
The annoying thing with formats is various inputs on geocaching.com may or may not understand or correct what you enter to the proper DDM format. Some require one format, others understand everything. blargh
Very true mate, although here in Australia we have a pretty good accuracy with our wide open spaces. . The reviewer who reached out to me asked that everyone use the DDM format, even though the website sometimes corrects them.
Glad you enjoyed the video mate, its much longer than what I'm used to producing. Haha
@@TheAussieGeocacherSeemyshell You know, I have a theory. Sometimes if there's a single digit for the whole minute, the conversion may not be accurate (depends how they parse the string) - eg 05.123 may be parsed correctly but 5.123 may not, and in the latter case may be converted to incorrect coordinates... *shrug* I still chalk it up to web development implementations, UX design more than user error :) I think the various coordinate formats aren't covered enough in 101's for people to know the difference. Could make a good topic!
I only skim the surface for beginners in these episodes. haha
@@cachetheline The best idea is to not get into a situation where you need to convert.
Measure in DD MM.MMM and absolutely never in DD MM SS which has a precision of only about 30 metres. Fine for navigating a ship, but not good enough for us.
All the apps cost money I just need to find the right cords for my cash it’s just too hard to get the exact location of the cash 😢
The official geocaching app is free. Also google or Apple Maps is free, but you will need to do your own averages over a few days to get good coordinates
@@TheAussieGeocacherSeemyshell oh okay