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The Nationalists *literally can't* choose the communist focus unless you've got some mods, m8. On the HOI4 note, with 1.7 the SCW is now back to the same odds it was in 1.4 - mostly a Nationalist win.
this purge affected only a very small percentage of the military, you could look up the actual numbers and perhaps some western intelligence reports about the effects. the problems with organization in the Red Army were mostly due to it being in the middle of a huge reorganization, the hole unit system being shuffled in urgent attempts to prepare for the great war.
@@jan_kisan and the event he's referencing does refer to the real purge, the loss of "45% organization" is a measure of combat effectiveness, not a claim that 45% of the officers were killed. I don't think it's a stretch to say that the later, well organized Soviets were more than twice as effective, rendering the game's rendition of the purge passable for a game event.
A pity that you didn't mention more of the important detail that Franco was able to join both the Falangists and the Carlists into one party for a common cause and under his leadership by 1937.
Too bad he later choked the falangist movement which was growing popular enough that he felt threatened. And without a coherent ideology and with general indifference, it all went down the drain in 1975 .
@Electro_blob Monarchy has proven throughout 19th and 20th centuries that it will always yield to the oligarchs and liberals when their private interests are threatened. Even worse: it will stay in place as a stooge, giving the populace a false sense that they still live in a traditional country.
@Electro_blob I think that the best possible blueprint for a resilient community is going back to the roots - a tribe. A network of close knit-groups which live together, work together and intermarry, forming bonds to each other that are stronger than with any external actors or the State. Religious minority communities survived like this for thousands of years in hostile environment and even thrived, gained converts.
@kinsmarts ooooh so bad. Nazis threw bombs with Spanish cadmium...or send the Division Azul to Russia... But lets just remember the facts that you prefer to forge your opinion xX
@kinsmarts it always makes me laugh when francoists try to justify a 40 years military dictatorship by 3 years of war xD know that part, guys? Franco was the last fascist in Europe, by design of U.S.A and "the allies"....
@ on Spain, Franco has much much more blood in his hands. Starting there, if you studied a bit of history, maybe you realized that was the same guy that killed democrats. Comunism win? comunism win the elections of 1936, so? please,know what you are talking about before you dare to say this to a spaniard, man
Yeah in the 50s my grandpa served as a US soldier deployed in Spain for reconstruction and training soldiers. He told me about all the 'police' who carried submachine guns and had those flat hats and the parties thugs who tried to scare Americans out with rifles
@@carlosquintela2950 As a Slovene I think people make jokes about our country just because they weren't opressed by other nations for about 1000 years like us...there you go, now you know that my people also suffered, just like other people in other countries.
@@levvy3006, Have you watched the video? He mentions that the Nationalists captured the 2 most important agricultural zones, and that the people on the Republican side sometimes did not have enough food.
@@levvy3006 Ah yes, Stalin's glorious harvests of the 30s...Russians suddenly had food, and 5-10 million Ukrainians apparently took a permanent vacation leaving the Russians to get even more food. Stalin was a masterful diplomat.
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@@levvy3006 Why are you such a shameless liar? Stalin and the other Russians even used famine as a weapon, for example during the Holodomor Genocide. There were famines untill the 1950's in Russia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1946%E2%80%9347
Fun fact a small brigade of Irish known as O'duffy's brigade fought for national spain but franco didnt want them as he already good troops as mentioned. The reason why they joined is as mentioned spain was very catholic and o'duffy was anti communist
@@murphyjack90 no worries im fully aware franco really wanted to get rid of them the entire time,thats what ya get for getting a bunch of galway boys to fight , they're more of singers than anything
The reasons spain went to war have been WAY too oversimplified. You massively oversimplified the 1934 revolts and skipped the series of assasinations that lead to the begining of the Civil War. Not only that, but Franco didn't lead the coupé de tat, he was one of the several leaders that organized themselves across the territory and only ever became the leader because the two guys that actually lead the nationalists died in airplane crashes (most likely organized by Franco himself) Good video overall, but details are important when looking at History
@5:00 Franco didn’t lead the coup (at least initially). He only inherited that position. It was initially led by José Sanjurjo & later Emilio Mola but both died in a plane crash.
Good point, also the one in comando above Franco died before he traveled from the Canary island to lead a portion of the army, all his adversaries died in strange circumstances
@General Popcorn Hearts of Iron IV is a WWII strategy game that uses a focus tree system to trigger events--click on an icon to spend 70 days completing a focus that will trigger events and stuff. The joke here is that Japan is too busy sending volunteers to Spain to go to war with China
@@alexg3007 Did ethnic purges? Checked. Had an authoritarian regime based on ideas of Japanese supremacy and imperialism? Checked. Committed some war crimes that made the nazis and Italians look like innocent puppies? (unit 731, nanjing, the Burma railway, mandated cannibalism, the "comfort women program etc) Checked. Yes, Japan was technically more of a military dictatorship than a fascist state, but many elements of its ideology could easily be regarded as fascist...
Vict0r1984 Ethnic purges? Checked. Had an authoritarian regime based on ideas of American, China, Soviet Union supremacy and imperialism? Checked. Committed some war crimes that made Nazis and Italians look like innocent puppies?( Tsushu, Sainan, Okinawa, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Nikolayevsk, Comintern, CNP) Checked. Yes if you think Japan was fascist state. Then most of main powers in WW2 are fascists. Many of elements of its ideology could easily be regarded as a fascist. If you think this only applies to Japan and not to Allies. Then you don’t know anything.
Unsurprising. From everything I’ve seen this channel, though it may truly try to be objective, leans left/center-left in its interpretation of history. Franco is only seen in a positive light by monarchists or people on the political right or traditional side of the divide. So those who don’t fit that description won’t go out of their way to learn or share or even necessarily be able to consider some of the incredible feats they did.
@@ReformedSooner24 unifying far right factions to join the common cause in the war doesn’t seem like a positive thing to me. Deserves to be mentioned though.
@@pavlogorianskyi1249 The republican party being majority communists also doesn't seem like a positive thing to me and yet american leftists constantly praise them.
1) The lack of any real centralized leadership. Either in the army or in the government. 2) The decision at the start of the conflict to hand over the country's gold reserves to the Soviet Union. 3) The unwillingness of many in the republican controlled areas to join the army and fight. 4) The refusal of army units to obey orders. In particular orders that would lead to losses. 5) A terrible ally (the Soviet Union) with an inconsistent policy toward Spain. 6) A lack of ruthlessness on the part of the Spanish communists. 7) The tendency of everyone in the government to be positioning themselves to take power after a victory rather than fighting for a victory. 8) The weakness of the republic in the countryside and the republic's eventual inability to feed its own population. 9) A total lack of any type of military strategy. A total focus on defensive warfare. 10) The decision in 1939 to unconditionally surrender still holding a quarter of the country with a large army in the field rather than fight to the end. The general cowardliness of the republican elite who fled to save their own lives and didn't care one bit about any of their followers.
This video is in great parts misleading. He willingly presents the stalinists purges in Barcelona as Republicans vs. Anarchists (CNT). Read the reports of George Orwell or Willy Brandt.
The video is well made, but history is very much wrong here for it gives an easy explanation to a much more complex part of our history specially on the prelude to the war. I understand it is a hard task to compress info to make it easy on the viewer but I repeat this video historically speakimg is not right. I am no defender of Franco but the uprising they did was far more complex than just loosing elections.
Interesting fact... George Orwell. The author of the books 1984 and Animal Farm, left England to join the International Brigade and fought in the Spanish Civil War. One of his other books A Homage to Catalonia is an autobiography of his experiences. He talks how the Republicans and Nationalists were camped on opposing hill tops and neither could shoot each other. And he also talks about the Republicans fighting each other in Barcelona.
He also realised during his time there that all forms of authoritarianism were identical, and the issue wasn’t a left or right one but authoritarianism vs liberalism and democracy. He ended up hating the republicans
@@dopaminedreams1122 From what I remember, Orwell said there was more than one communist party in Spain. And the both hated each other. Like Stalinism hated Trotskyism or that famous scene from the A Life Of Brian film … The Peoples Front of Judaea versus the Judaean People’s Front
"the Civil War in Spain resulted from a period of inept leadership and increasing polarization in the country. As the financial gap widened between the wealthy and the middle class workers, both groups were increasingly drawn to extremist ideas and rhetoric" *nervous laughter*
It cannot be forgotten that the Catholic Church was severely attacked. Temples were destroyed, priests, bishops and seminarians were assassinated. The nuns were raped and killed. With that, the Spanish people looked the other way when the reprisals came.
And children of Republic towns were allowed to be raped to death by enemies of the Church. It was elected by the people that there would be a separation of Church and state but the Catholic church wanted to rule Spain like it was the dark ages.
You got some things wrong in the civil war. Franco wasn't always the leader of the uprising, Sanjurjo was in the beggining, in fact, Franco thought about uncovering their plans, but finally refused. Both Mola and Sanjurjo died in convenient plane crashes, leaving a clear path for Franco to take over. Also, the coup d'etat started when a head of a right-wing political party was murdered by leftist militias in response of an execution of a leftist police officer by far right militias. Another point you missed then is that communists and anarchists were already arming people for a revolution, so it wasn't due to political discontent, but to extremely intense social fight, what ultimately led to a coup d'etat in 1939
When Nazi Germany sends Franco guns, planes and food and the isolationist United States refuses to send aid a democratically elected government in Europe.
I think what is important to note is that in the previous election CEDA was the largest party but the president refused to allow them to form a government with them as the head , and when the Radical party prime minister was forced to resign, instead of President Zamora allowing CEDA to continue their term, new elections were called. This period itself is one of the most complex I have ever researched and in general it was a period where both sides and genuine fear of the other and have cause to fear the other.
The largest party might not be bigger than the biggest coalition. Australia's recent election is a testament to that. The Labor party was the largest but the Liberal party was the leader of the largest coalition and won as a result.
Mr. Goldfish While that is true, it does not work for CEDA. It was a coalition of the right wing groups of Spain with Robles’s Accion Popular being the largest party within it. CEDA is similar to the popular front amongst Spanish and French leftists. Historian Stanley Payne accuses the republicans of running a selective democracy where they believed only those of their views could rule after the denial of CEDA’s right to form a government. At the same time, CEDA did not help its case as it authoritarian tendencies remained apparent, Robles never dissuaded fears of authoritarianism, and while most of the party were content with working within the system to enact change, the inclusion of falangists, monarchists, and carlists only made the left fear CEDA.
Mr. Goldfish Also in fairness, if I recall correctly l, Robles was fine with the decision, as I believe he wished not to stir up too much controversy and later on the government had to include CEDA in the cabinet with members controlling the key positions of defense, labor, and agriculture(if I remember correctly) which were all areas of reforms the Republicans wanted control of.
Absolutely nuts how mexico had it first,i guess it difficult to make a Focus tree for 2 nations,1 of then appears from nowhere,but this must be done,as well the finish one, the turkish and the greek.
And now both Nationalists and Republicans will each have their unique, full-fledged focus trees. forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi4-dev-diary-%C2%A1viva-espa%C3%B1a-nationalist-spain-focus-tree.1249877/
My Spanish teacher wrote his Thesis on this and he talked to a woman who is living in Mexico who was a refugee of the Spanish Civil War along with a son of a Partisan soldier and another refugee who live in Spain
did they explain to you the very basic fact that their project was to install a communist regime in Spain?? these people are not heroes..., but minions trying to impose their views on everybody else
@@silveriorebelo8045 Veterans of the civil war are very respected in México, and it was also the only nation to oficially give foreign aid and support to republican Spain. We consider them freedom fighters because they fought to keep Spain free of a tyrannical government, regardless of borders or nationality.
Can you make a video about the Central American Crisis when major civil wars and communist revolutions erupted in various countries in Central America in the midst of the Cold War?
Well it is fairly easy to win a war when the other side: - Does not formaly mobilize from the start. - Does not have a centralized chain of command. - Does not have a single ideology.
@13:00 USSR: “communism is about brotherhood, sharing, putting people above the alter of profit!” Spanish Republicans: “so you will help us?” USSR: “yeah, but you will have to pay”
One thing to remember was the anti-religious nature of the republican forces. It is one thing to target someone who is rich and owns land, but no religion is going to survive without people who aren't rich and land owning. If one side is going to have you executed just for praying then you're going to side with those who won't.
I'm not at all excusing the actions of the Republicans, but the "godlessness" of the forces was in reaction to the brutal treatment of the Catholic Church against workers fighting for the fruits to their own labor. Again, nuns and priests alike and the innocents caught between crossfire didn't deserve what happened to them, but don't overlook what the church did just like you wouldn't overlook what the Republicans did. Keep that same energy.
@@dukeofirony58 ah, so because the church didn’t support an authoritarian, Inherently atheist idealogy, that had just massacred thousands of priests and burnt thousands of churches in Russia, they somehow had this coming? Are you aware of how disgustingly authoritarian you sound, imagine thinking it’s ok to religiously genocide an entire group because they didn’t support your stupid communist movement. This is why the nationalists won, what a gross reasoning for mass murder. Also we can all tell your defending their actions clown you literally went mask off with your hatred for Catholics or I guess anyone who isn’t a commie
@@dopaminedreams1122 in no way shape or form did I even mention hating Catholics, as religion is common among the working class and to hate religion is to alienate a lot of people. But okay, continue to have your shitfit. Just makes you look bad and me more reasonable.
Kind of cut out the parts of the miner strike being ordered to be put down by the republican government and the moves taken against the church and conservative peoples of Spain which helped push much of the military towards the coup.
Also, he did not mention that the assassination of the leader of government oppositon by the leftist popular front was what triggered the civil war. Or that the socialist leader Indalecio Prieto brought a gun to the parliament and aimed with it to the right-wing representatives.
The republican government at that time was a coalition between the CEDA and a republican centre right party which could do little to stop the CEDA's demands.
Republican govt made no attempt to stop leftist violence. Also, people feared a Red Terror and what they knew had occurred in Russia after the Reds took power.
I keep hearing this "the nationalists were the wealthy, the republicans were the poor" shtick which is simply not true. While the nationalists were supported by a large portion of the landed nobility and bourgeoisie, the bulk of the nationalists were Catholic peasants, workers and soldiers from all over the country. Half the country supported the nationalists, and I can tell you, half the country wasn't rich. They were simply poor, religious folk who were tired of seeing radical communists and anarchists burn their churches, rape nuns and slaughter people for the sake of being Catholic, with total impunity and indifference from the republican government.
LOL. Not really. Although, yes most of the National side were poor Catholics. They were in a sense, just like modern poor republicans; useful idiots brainwashed into fighting against their own interests by an elite that didn’t give two shits about them.
Lmaooo my Spain went communist once and formed a coalition with communist France and ended up 'winning' not really but kinda. Germany couldnt fight spain/France with Russia invading their eastern front and France stayed the same size but Spain wrecked Italy. The allies didn't do a whole lot but aided the communists
I've been living in Spain for over 10 years and for most of that time I've worked teaching english to spanish kids. It still drives me crazy the fact they learn nothing about the civil war in school it's literally half a page in history books!!!!
Entiende que la guerra, fue un desastre. En si, el problema no fue solamente la guerra civil, fue un problema de base, que vino desde que los Republicanos perdieron las elecciones en el 31, porque si, hubo unas elecciones para o bien seguir con la republica, o bien continuar siendo monárquicos. Perdió la opción republicana, pero como el rey, huyó, pues se tuvo de todas formas república. Esto y que la República NO admitía que un lado pudiese gobernar. Es decir, para la Republica, los únicos que podían de verdad gobernar eran los de Izquierda. Y cuando ganó la CEDA (Centro derecha) armaron todo un jaleo, llegando a levantarse en armas (siendo uno de ellos, la revolución de Asturias). La guerra civil, fue una consecuencia de una nefasta Republica, que estaba más ocupada creando enemigos (es decir, quemando iglesias, matando lideres de la oposición, invalidando la mitad de la opinión de la población) que arreglar los problemas heredas. Como esperabas que saliese.... De todas formas, no estamos metidos al 100% en ello. Franco, es una estatua de marmol, y en el viaje de la vida, tienes que ir con lo fundamental, y la estatua de marmol de 50kilos, pues te lo tienes que dejar en casa.
The civil war was a major disaster for the country and unless Germany, we are not really known for learning from our mistakes, so the war is a taboo today. There's also a problem and is that there are still millions of people in Spain that consider totally legitimate to kill others for political differences and that defend a war that destroyed the country. Also there is a total lack of political literacy in the right wing and most right wingers think that being a democrat is being a communist
Because Franco united anti-republicans, on the other hand anarchists and trotskyist in the late years of war were supressed by stalinists. So there was a lot of infighting on the republican side.
no, the republicans had way better means and support by the soviet union, They even had about half of the spanish regular army and about 3/4 of the navy when the war started. But the republicans were such a mess that they could not held their ground. The nationalist, a spectrum which included right wing republicans to fascist, monarchist, old regime monarchist and traditional catholics decided no name Franco as their sole military leader and dictator in october 1st of 1936. Many times the nationalist only had to push the republicans, then sit and wait for the internal skirmish.
@@gerardsotxoa, forget not about the Communists purging the anarchists, international volunteers, unionists, clergymen, and non-communist republicans. Red Terror. "Viva la Muerte"
No it isn't. During the Civil War, the South, often the more nationalistic of the 2, not without good reason, was more dependent on foreigners than the north's who's industrial economy was mostly self contained and had most the resources it needed at home already to grind the South in attrition even without having to resort to using foreigners in their army more often than the South, which they did.
@@Jorgejtrdr soy fascista... Lol no. Es un solamente chiste. creo que la frase de Milán-Astray es muy tanta y oxímoronic pero divertido decirlo. "Long live death"
I couldn't get past 4:48 because you completely ignored the communists bombing churches and killing priests. How can you omit such a key part of the political divide in Spain on the eve of its civil war? It is like saying that the White Russians had done nothing to spur the revolt led by the Bolsheviks. Come on. You're better than that.
The Majority of atrocities in the Spanish Civil war were committed by the nationalist side. Estimates of executions behind the Nationalist lines during the Spanish Civil War range from fewer than 50,000 to 200,000 Figures for the Red Terror in Spain range from 38,000 to 72,344.
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor Thanks for the info. However, my point remains about partisanship in history. I am also wary of this numbers game. Aren't all of those deaths tragic? I refuse Stalin's dictum: "A single death is a tragedy. A million is a statistic." Best to you.
I like the video overall, but it feels a bit bias. It glosses over Republican atrocities(looting of churches and mansions, brutal executions of the clergy and wealthy, rape of conservative women including nuns, etcetera) during the war, and doesn't mention the growing political violence prior to the 1936 coup which included the execution of Calvo Sotelo who was the leader of the monarchist faction. Saying the uprising occurred solely because the right wasn't happy with the election results is factually wrong. I understand this is meant to be a short video, but you could've and should've provided a fuller picture.
Indeed, the uprising was not just because the right wasn’t happy with the election results but also because they hadn’t gotten over the deposing of the right wing dictatorship that preceded the republic.
Somebody probably told it already but for more informations about May Days, inner working of Republicans and volunteers and war as a whole, read the book Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell. It's notable that other famous British writer, J. R. R. Tolkien was outspoken supporter of Nationalist because of his Catholic faith and Republican murders of Catholic clergy.
Thank you 4 outlining the fact that fascism and communism were THE 2 competing political philosophies at the time. If you are in college now they conveniently gloss over this and claim fascism was the old order and communism was the new. Insane.
@@Daniel-pg9qh And he is right, many here apparently don't know fascism means national-SOCIALISM. Fascism, socialism and communism are basically the same idea, the difference between them is that fascism didn't want to destroy the fabrics of society to build the utopias they promised. The opposite to fascism and communism is democracy.
For a different look at the war, try The Passionate War. It's told largely as a collected narrative of the many strange, brutal, and sometimes darkly humorous events in Spain. Many foreign powers operated in Spain before and during the war. While it is sometimes seen as a training ground for the world war to follow. It also offered textbook examples of how not to fight a modern war.
Thank you! This was a really great introduction /summary. I tried watching 4 or 5 other short Spanish Civil War YT vides before yours but they were so hard to listen to & watch that I couldn't stay with them; the speech was too fast, very quick and 'loud' images and lettering, all a bit too much of a 'car-crash' experience, in my opinion! Thanks for making something different & digestible!
Yes He has made a few faux pas. No biggie. But it is about the Spanish civil war. Like most info about it pretty much, been re-released story been shorted, digitally remastered, with scenes removed while other parts over extended highlighted. Its like a Lucas production. Hit n miss but that's why it's one of the most intriguing parts of history. As its been revised more than the bible.
Ye kinda made my head scratch why the nationalists looked to be deployed alongside them. If anything it be a compilation of L3s from Italy and panzer 2s from Germany.
Blah b Nope, it was a legally purchased british export design with its awful gun mounting of 2 mg turrets were exchanged for a single superior turret with a 45 millimetre cannon.
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Think about it.. These are common working people (sheep herders, coal miners, fisherman, laborers ect) going up against the General Army of Spain. You see it in the uniforms and weapons. The Nationalists had manufactured tailored uniforms, the Second Republic mainly had a white button collar shirt and a beret.
as someone who lives in Seattle I can confirm this. And with the mess this country is in now I would rather President Trump become just like Franco at this point I don't even care anymore
@@szymonulhurski1 LOL! As if AOC actually cares about American people, ahahah! Also, what is it with many of AOC's fans and even some haters having foot fetish fantasies about her?
While it is easy to talk about the mass bombing of civilians becoming a more common /well known German tactic , it seems very misleading. Every major power in WWII did that. The Allies, were if anything, far better at it, with much more in the way of air power to put towards it, and causing equal if not greater destruction.
This channel is insanely bias towards the allies in ww2, but in particular the soviets, he NEVER mentions the evil crap they did, he even blamed Finland for being invaded by the commies, because they were apparently “anti communist” like gee I wonder why
Showed this vid to my spanish friends and they were like "it's meh". Specifically they didn't like how the armchair historian glosses over how the republicans had their share of massacres and burnt down churches, butchering priests and nuns across the country. If those don't move you, then they also killed other lefties such as catalonia anarchists aswell as accepting ultra right wing nationalist basque and catalonian elements. The miner uprising was a staged coup by the PSOE (same party currently in power) and the only reason it doesn't get bad press is because was left wing and ultimately failed. So yeah, after learning that and many other tidbits from my spanish friends , vid could be better indeed but it serves as a decent enough entry point I guess as long as one keeps in mind this vid glosses over the atrocities of one side and therefore (whether intentionally or not) make it seem like a good vs evil fight when the reality was far messier.
@@jcristero2476 So an easily convinced fool who lets elements of the past dictate all their current beliefs? All right wing governments today *wish* they were anything like the communist governments they claim to despise. Stalin's absolute power is exactly what right wingers desire while claiming to hate it. Not to mention the pagan "degeneracy" and polygamy of many powerful fascists throughout their history. They're just power hungry men like any other, but they say the word "tradition" and you'll goosestep for the same actions you claim to despise. Wannabe is a good name for you.
"One thing that I am sure of, and which I can answer truthfully, is that whatever the contingencies that may arise here, wherever I am there will be no communism."
My wife's family lived in Spain. They have a nice neighbor, 3 stories up. her father was shot, in Madrid, in 1936, along with 2,500 other officers, priests, and so on, by communists. There is a field north of Madrid, where over 10,000 church employees- nuns, priests, etc.- were simply shot. There were atrocities on both sides.
When foreign historians translate "Los nacionales" for "the nationalists" they fall in the same error as Orwell did when translating how the rebels called themselves, again "los nacionales", the nationals. The nationalists in spanish means "los nacionalistas". During the war, and in spanish politics as a whole, nationalists is how catalan and basque pro independence call themselves. So check spanish language knowledge to overcome this error.
@Pyrrhaz *Los nacionales* era como se llamaban a si mismos, y como eran llamados por el bando del frente popular, todos aquellos que secundaron el alzamiento militar dirigido por Mola. En España, hoy en día, como entonces, si dices los nacionalistas te refieres a independentistas vascos, catalanes, gallegos o incluso canarios. Con que oigas cualquier tertulia estos días así se refieren a los votos que necesita Sánchez para conseguir una mayoría, "sus socios nacionalistas". Por cierto mutil, ni donostiarra naiz, ulertzen?
For everyone interested in the Spanish civil war I would suggest to you to read the book, The Spanish Holocaust. Franco's men were some of the most brutal men I have ever read about.
It's funny when you realise Franco constantly compared his war to the reconquista to "save spain," even though his army slaughtered the locals constantly and had moors in his own forces.
Also anthony beever's 'The Spanish Civil War' it's record of the early war in adalusia is easy to read and well sourced. The actions taken in Seville and Malaga are a prime example of the Nationalists brutality and lack of empathy to any against them.
taking intro account that there were a total of 5900 clergies killed by the republicans and 250000 civilians by the nationalists it is easy to understand why he didn't mention it.
@@nihon2251 what? That's a lot of priests. Comparing clergy to all encompassing "civilians" is not a comparison at all. You're talking casualties during a three year civil war, I'm talking murderous bands of "socialists and anarchists" that went around torching churches and killing priests before Franco even left Morocco. It seems you are confused, maybe go read a real history of the Spanish civil war and it's background.
@@brandonkrueger5763 hey, I simply misread it. For your knowledge, such bands and assaults, though they happened, were by no means a common thing and the numbers of burned down churches or killed priests seem to be astoundingly inflated.
Well, two things: 1- I really liked how the video is and how it's presented(so I used it as a base for my civil war project in history class) 2-My father is from Guernica so, I've been there a lot of times and have visited the tree that survived the bombing and also if you go to Omago (a bakery there which in my opinion is the best one) you can see that the glass on the roof depicts the bombing
El abuelo de una profesora mia fue el alcalde de guernica durante la guerra civil. Mi visabuelo fue herido en combate tambien en la guerra, una bala le cruzó todo un lado de la cabeza. Saludos desde Chile, donde la guerra civil aun se recuerda.
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I saw you making the video in the livestream
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Nice bearth but i tought you are a nerd and They dont have sth. Like this
The Hoi4 Scoreboard:
Franco - 25 481
Jose Diaz - 2
Filip240ZG With an Abarth 500 its the other way for most of my hoi4 games, but I do tend to play as monarchy Germany.
Que voy a matar mas guiris....
The Nationalists *literally can't* choose the communist focus unless you've got some mods, m8.
On the HOI4 note, with 1.7 the SCW is now back to the same odds it was in 1.4 - mostly a Nationalist win.
Jose Rivera 2000000000
Haha yes
Because when the volunteers came, the soviet union still had -45% organization to their units from _officers purged_
Imagine doing the great purge
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this purge affected only a very small percentage of the military, you could look up the actual numbers and perhaps some western intelligence reports about the effects. the problems with organization in the Red Army were mostly due to it being in the middle of a huge reorganization, the hole unit system being shuffled in urgent attempts to prepare for the great war.
@@jan_kisan Its a Hearts Of Iron 4 Reference
@@wizar6712 oh, alright, haven't played this one yet
@@jan_kisan and the event he's referencing does refer to the real purge, the loss of "45% organization" is a measure of combat effectiveness, not a claim that 45% of the officers were killed. I don't think it's a stretch to say that the later, well organized Soviets were more than twice as effective, rendering the game's rendition of the purge passable for a game event.
A pity that you didn't mention more of the important detail that Franco was able to join both the Falangists and the Carlists into one party for a common cause and under his leadership by 1937.
Too bad he later choked the falangist movement which was growing popular enough that he felt threatened. And without a coherent ideology and with general indifference, it all went down the drain in 1975 .
unir unir... se cargó a los principales líderes y se quedó con el movimiento. pero si, el video... le faltaban muuuuuuuchas cosas
@Electro_blob Monarchy has proven throughout 19th and 20th centuries that it will always yield to the oligarchs and liberals when their private interests are threatened. Even worse: it will stay in place as a stooge, giving the populace a false sense that they still live in a traditional country.
yup that is tolerance , left dont have tolerance
@Electro_blob I think that the best possible blueprint for a resilient community is going back to the roots - a tribe. A network of close knit-groups which live together, work together and intermarry, forming bonds to each other that are stronger than with any external actors or the State. Religious minority communities survived like this for thousands of years in hostile environment and even thrived, gained converts.
Spain: exists
This enraged Spain, who punished Spain severely.
Choose your fighter :
> Spain.
Or
> Spain.
@@Retaliatixn Hmmm... A hard decision... I choose Spain!
@@Retaliatixn I choose Malta
Dude...
Uncool
thats exactly how it works here xdd 50% hates 50%
“I am not afraid of an army of lions led by a sheep, I am afraid of an army of sheep led by a lion” -Alexander the Great to his men
Even a bunch of fortnite kids can be dangerous if led by John Wick.
Mojew Jewjew this guy gets it 😂
@@PrehistoricLEGO :)))
implying?
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Communist Russia: Republicans you have to pay for our weapons.
Fascist Italy: Nationalists we got you bro here have some guns.
Communists "redistributed" Spanish gold to Stalin.
hendaya anyone ? :)
@kinsmarts ooooh so bad. Nazis threw bombs with Spanish cadmium...or send the Division Azul to Russia... But lets just remember the facts that you prefer to forge your opinion xX
@kinsmarts it always makes me laugh when francoists try to justify a 40 years military dictatorship by 3 years of war xD know that part, guys? Franco was the last fascist in Europe, by design of U.S.A and "the allies"....
@ on Spain, Franco has much much more blood in his hands. Starting there, if you studied a bit of history, maybe you realized that was the same guy that killed democrats. Comunism win? comunism win the elections of 1936, so? please,know what you are talking about before you dare to say this to a spaniard, man
My grandfather was born in 1938 in Madrid, in the middle of the siege, I always tell him that was quite a bad timing
It's a miracle your grandfather survived. I mean babies and young children (ages 1-10) as well as pregnant women chances of survival are very slim.
Yeah in the 50s my grandpa served as a US soldier deployed in Spain for reconstruction and training soldiers. He told me about all the 'police' who carried submachine guns and had those flat hats and the parties thugs who tried to scare Americans out with rifles
Lol what bro my grandfather helped libarate Spain and fought with the nationlaists to defeat the Soviet influence spreading in europe
@Nadia BaigI feel the fel seeping from this comment
@Nadia Baig nationalists ain't nazi
Portugal just chilling there like "man that's some wild stuff going on over there, let's break out the popcorn"
except, as mentioned, Salazar supported the Nationalists.
@@shahstormaggedoni5854 Is that supposed to prevent them from eating popcorn?
@@MrSMITCHERS I suppose not, touche
"chilling" yeeeeeh
Still much harder to eat popcorn
Spain: ...
Spain: I am gonna end this man's whole career
Best comment
that was fucking clever
Spanish Republic : I'm going to beat you up Spanish Nationalist
@@501stClonePilot I dont think history and reality agree there :)
Don't trust anyone, not even yourself
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As a Spanish y think that you make this jokes because you have no clue about the war and you didn't loose any of your family members in it
@@bogdangabrielonete3467 Unlock tanks for just 10$
@@carlosquintela2950 As a Slovene I think people make jokes about our country just because they weren't opressed by other nations for about 1000 years like us...there you go, now you know that my people also suffered, just like other people in other countries.
Spanish Republican Officer: These guns, tanks, and planes are great and all, but what we really need is food!
*Stalin sweats nervously*
The Communists in Spain didn't have food shortages. Also Stalin ended famine in Russia.
@@levvy3006,
Have you watched the video? He mentions that the Nationalists captured the 2 most important agricultural zones, and that the people on the Republican side sometimes did not have enough food.
@@levvy3006 Ah yes, Stalin's glorious harvests of the 30s...Russians suddenly had food, and 5-10 million Ukrainians apparently took a permanent vacation leaving the Russians to get even more food. Stalin was a masterful diplomat.
@@levvy3006
Why are you such a shameless liar? Stalin and the other Russians even used famine as a weapon, for example during the Holodomor Genocide.
There were famines untill the 1950's in Russia.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1946%E2%80%9347
@@levvy3006 Yes
by killing 20 million of his own people
So nationalist propaganda is pretty much : " imagine not having bread, this post was made by the franco gang."
Falangang
Basically, lol
Let me guess, Beni Kahn...COMMIE!!!
Republican Reply :
We have enough potatoes and rice
@@aliefrizaldi2068 Those don't grow in Spain, checkmate commies.
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Fun fact a small brigade of Irish known as O'duffy's brigade fought for national spain but franco didnt want them as he already good troops as mentioned. The reason why they joined is as mentioned spain was very catholic and o'duffy was anti communist
I was googling, he was ex-Sinn Féin, Fine Gael and then fascits LOL
The Irish volunteers were next to useless and didn't have any overall impact on the war.
Im irish too BTW.
@@murphyjack90 no worries im fully aware franco really wanted to get rid of them the entire time,thats what ya get for getting a bunch of galway boys to fight , they're more of singers than anything
Vid Nikon my name is Gael 🗿
That's because O' Duffy and the blueshirts were useless fighters
Nobody expects the Spanish Civil War
Hi Kim senpai
Not even since the 1800s, comrade Kim?
Nobody expects the spanish inquisition
And Chinese Civil War
Actually, everybody expects the Spanish civil war.
The reasons spain went to war have been WAY too oversimplified. You massively oversimplified the 1934 revolts and skipped the series of assasinations that lead to the begining of the Civil War. Not only that, but Franco didn't lead the coupé de tat, he was one of the several leaders that organized themselves across the territory and only ever became the leader because the two guys that actually lead the nationalists died in airplane crashes (most likely organized by Franco himself)
Good video overall, but details are important when looking at History
he also completely forgot to mention the crucial italian intervention focusing more on germany, he didn't even talk about what happened on the sea.
I think that this video is more focused on the war itself, not on the causes
@Cthulhu Waifu antes era más unida por el hecho de no ser un estado centralizado. Aragon tenía sus leyes, navarra las suyas, castilla las suyas etc.
@Cthulhu Waifu pues a todo se le llamaba españa en aquel entonces, aunque tenía diferentes reinos dentro de esta.
It was not organized by Franco. Quit with your historical revisionism.
@5:00 Franco didn’t lead the coup (at least initially). He only inherited that position. It was initially led by José Sanjurjo & later Emilio Mola but both died in a plane crash.
I was lookin for this comment.
Good point, also the one in comando above Franco died before he traveled from the Canary island to lead a portion of the army, all his adversaries died in strange circumstances
He Said: co-lead
@@prigual2901 That was lucky...
Nice pfp
The Nationalists won because Japan sent volunteers instead of doing the Marco Polo Bridge Incident focus.
General Popcorn ya ever played HOI4?
@General Popcorn Hearts of Iron IV is a WWII strategy game that uses a focus tree system to trigger events--click on an icon to spend 70 days completing a focus that will trigger events and stuff. The joke here is that Japan is too busy sending volunteers to Spain to go to war with China
wtf thats never happened to me before but japan decided its army should be in france in endseig ww1 instead of taking Qingdow
@@alexg3007 Did ethnic purges? Checked. Had an authoritarian regime based on ideas of Japanese supremacy and imperialism? Checked. Committed some war crimes that made the nazis and Italians look like innocent puppies? (unit 731, nanjing, the Burma railway, mandated cannibalism, the "comfort women program etc) Checked. Yes, Japan was technically more of a military dictatorship than a fascist state, but many elements of its ideology could easily be regarded as fascist...
Vict0r1984 Ethnic purges? Checked. Had an authoritarian regime based on ideas of American, China, Soviet Union supremacy and imperialism? Checked. Committed some war crimes that made Nazis and Italians look like innocent puppies?( Tsushu, Sainan, Okinawa, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Nikolayevsk, Comintern, CNP) Checked. Yes if you think Japan was fascist state. Then most of main powers in WW2 are fascists. Many of elements of its ideology could easily be regarded as a fascist. If you think this only applies to Japan and not to Allies. Then you don’t know anything.
I feel that you left out the sheer amount of politicking Franco engaged in to ensure that the Nationalists were unified.
Unsurprising. From everything I’ve seen this channel, though it may truly try to be objective, leans left/center-left in its interpretation of history. Franco is only seen in a positive light by monarchists or people on the political right or traditional side of the divide. So those who don’t fit that description won’t go out of their way to learn or share or even necessarily be able to consider some of the incredible feats they did.
@@ReformedSooner24 unifying far right factions to join the common cause in the war doesn’t seem like a positive thing to me. Deserves to be mentioned though.
Not only right the polítical center and some social democrats too.
@@pavlogorianskyi1249 The republican party being majority communists also doesn't seem like a positive thing to me and yet american leftists constantly praise them.
considering it an "incredible feat" is crazy
@@ReformedSooner24
1. Competent leadership
2. Competent training
3. Competent organization
4. No Communist purges
5. Foriegn aid
A non socialist economy
@Spartan 506 The Spanish poeple are still divided between followers of the socialists and such that prefer the conservative party.
No Anarchist shitbags in the industrial backline causing trouble.
@@superleetmegapunx also this
1) The lack of any real centralized leadership. Either in the army or in the government.
2) The decision at the start of the conflict to hand over the country's gold reserves to the Soviet Union.
3) The unwillingness of many in the republican controlled areas to join the army and fight.
4) The refusal of army units to obey orders. In particular orders that would lead to losses.
5) A terrible ally (the Soviet Union) with an inconsistent policy toward Spain.
6) A lack of ruthlessness on the part of the Spanish communists.
7) The tendency of everyone in the government to be positioning themselves to take power after a victory rather than fighting for a victory.
8) The weakness of the republic in the countryside and the republic's eventual inability to feed its own population.
9) A total lack of any type of military strategy. A total focus on defensive warfare.
10) The decision in 1939 to unconditionally surrender still holding a quarter of the country with a large army in the field rather than fight to the end. The general cowardliness of the republican elite who fled to save their own lives and didn't care one bit about any of their followers.
Nice beard man! Also great video as always, good to work with you again on this one!
aye it's hilbert
love your content my man, but your voice over in this video is pretty dryly spoken, were you sick or tired or something?
This video is in great parts misleading. He willingly presents the stalinists purges in Barcelona as Republicans vs. Anarchists (CNT). Read the reports of George Orwell or Willy Brandt.
The video is well made, but history is very much wrong here for it gives an easy explanation to a much more complex part of our history specially on the prelude to the war. I understand it is a hard task to compress info to make it easy on the viewer but I repeat this video historically speakimg is not right. I am no defender of Franco but the uprising they did was far more complex than just loosing elections.
Finally your character drawings are holding their rifles the correct way
Why you said that lol? Did they have it otherwise before? And how?
it only took years
until half the video
Spanish Civil War: The war that usually happens on HOI4 vanilla, Kaiserreich and Fuhrerreich.
Spain: Am I a joke to the world?
Juan Matteo All of them together: Yes yes you are.
Yes
Hi Von Lettow Vorbeck
Yes, you've been a joke since 1798
@@Kabutoes Hallo kameraden
Interesting fact... George Orwell. The author of the books 1984 and Animal Farm, left England to join the International Brigade and fought in the Spanish Civil War. One of his other books A Homage to Catalonia is an autobiography of his experiences. He talks how the Republicans and Nationalists were camped on opposing hill tops and neither could shoot each other. And he also talks about the Republicans fighting each other in Barcelona.
He also realised during his time there that all forms of authoritarianism were identical, and the issue wasn’t a left or right one but authoritarianism vs liberalism and democracy. He ended up hating the republicans
@@dopaminedreams1122 From what I remember, Orwell said there was more than one communist party in Spain. And the both hated each other. Like Stalinism hated Trotskyism or that famous scene from the A Life Of Brian film … The Peoples Front of Judaea versus the Judaean People’s Front
He was also shot through the throat, and barely survived.
Yeah,i know.I am reading myself 1984 and i've read animal farm
@@dopaminedreams1122The republicans were liberals but were joined by socialists, communists and anarchists
"the Civil War in Spain resulted from a period of inept leadership and increasing polarization in the country. As the financial gap widened between the wealthy and the middle class workers, both groups were increasingly drawn to extremist ideas and rhetoric"
*nervous laughter*
@Fabian Lopez-Toro sadly it is still early
I don’t get it -.-
@@XX_MelobraacRedux just replace "Spain" with "America" and look at today's political and economic climate
@@polygondwanaland8390 :O That’s... actually really clever. Good one mate
Chaz is basically what Catalonia did
Nationalists: Ok guys, we gotta stick together.
Republicans: Unity is a crucial par-
Anarchists: We don't do that here.
Laugh’s in today’s America
@Irvin O based
@Irvin O I don’t support franco but I would also be against the anarchists
Long live to anarcho syndicalism! Death to the power!
It was the Stalinists who ended up fracturing by the Leftist Coalition
It cannot be forgotten that the Catholic Church was severely attacked. Temples were destroyed, priests, bishops and seminarians were assassinated. The nuns were raped and killed. With that, the Spanish people looked the other way when the reprisals came.
And children of Republic towns were allowed to be raped to death by enemies of the Church. It was elected by the people that there would be a separation of Church and state but the Catholic church wanted to rule Spain like it was the dark ages.
It's called justice..
You got some things wrong in the civil war. Franco wasn't always the leader of the uprising, Sanjurjo was in the beggining, in fact, Franco thought about uncovering their plans, but finally refused. Both Mola and Sanjurjo died in convenient plane crashes, leaving a clear path for Franco to take over. Also, the coup d'etat started when a head of a right-wing political party was murdered by leftist militias in response of an execution of a leftist police officer by far right militias. Another point you missed then is that communists and anarchists were already arming people for a revolution, so it wasn't due to political discontent, but to extremely intense social fight, what ultimately led to a coup d'etat in 1939
spanish civil war is a great source of military exp.
when you finish the spanish civil war in hoi4 in 4 months with just 2 tank divisions and rommel
GucciSleddyBoi and the trait
Panzer expert
Courean yea and a field Marshall too
Yeah I turn germany communist and than win the war for the republicans
When Nazi Germany sends Franco guns, planes and food and the isolationist United States refuses to send aid a democratically elected government in Europe.
I think what is important to note is that in the previous election CEDA was the largest party but the president refused to allow them to form a government with them as the head , and when the Radical party prime minister was forced to resign, instead of President Zamora allowing CEDA to continue their term, new elections were called. This period itself is one of the most complex I have ever researched and in general it was a period where both sides and genuine fear of the other and have cause to fear the other.
True, but if some youtube historian says it in his/her videos they would be immediately labeled as nazi, it doesn't fit the narrative.
The largest party might not be bigger than the biggest coalition. Australia's recent election is a testament to that. The Labor party was the largest but the Liberal party was the leader of the largest coalition and won as a result.
Mr. Goldfish
While that is true, it does not work for CEDA. It was a coalition of the right wing groups of Spain with Robles’s Accion Popular being the largest party within it. CEDA is similar to the popular front amongst Spanish and French leftists. Historian Stanley Payne accuses the republicans of running a selective democracy where they believed only those of their views could rule after the denial of CEDA’s right to form a government. At the same time, CEDA did not help its case as it authoritarian tendencies remained apparent, Robles never dissuaded fears of authoritarianism, and while most of the party were content with working within the system to enact change, the inclusion of falangists, monarchists, and carlists only made the left fear CEDA.
Mr. Goldfish
Also in fairness, if I recall correctly l, Robles was fine with the decision, as I believe he wished not to stir up too much controversy and later on the government had to include CEDA in the cabinet with members controlling the key positions of defense, labor, and agriculture(if I remember correctly) which were all areas of reforms the Republicans wanted control of.
@@brendanmurphy4034 Thank you for this info. The discrepancy came from your use of the word "party."
I'd be interested to know your source.
When your name is Francisco Franco and France still doesn’t like you: : (
Franco-Franco relations were quite poor
Moral of the story: be always organized and make good and powerful friends.
Finland&Spain: *has a civil war*
Germany: Now this looks like a job for me
No one ever talks about the Finnish Civil War. Someone should make a video on it.
@@melvinmerkelhopper5752 The Great War channel has made a few videos about it& Jazby too
Finland had a Civil War why have I never Heard about this
Eiku nii... Meillä oli siviilisotaki
Kommaria silmien välii :)
@@tuke3541 Ihan suomeksi sisällissota
HOI4 needs a Spain Focus Tree
Absolutely nuts how mexico had it first,i guess it difficult to make a Focus tree for 2 nations,1 of then appears from nowhere,but this must be done,as well the finish one, the turkish and the greek.
And now both Nationalists and Republicans will each have their unique, full-fledged focus trees.
forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi4-dev-diary-%C2%A1viva-espa%C3%B1a-nationalist-spain-focus-tree.1249877/
Now it has.
Good news, now it has one
R/ age like wine
My Spanish teacher wrote his Thesis on this and he talked to a woman who is living in Mexico who was a refugee of the Spanish Civil War along with a son of a Partisan soldier and another refugee who live in Spain
He basterd
Bless him
za dom spremni
did they explain to you the very basic fact that their project was to install a communist regime in Spain?? these people are not heroes..., but minions trying to impose their views on everybody else
@@silveriorebelo8045 Veterans of the civil war are very respected in México, and it was also the only nation to oficially give foreign aid and support to republican Spain.
We consider them freedom fighters because they fought to keep Spain free of a tyrannical government, regardless of borders or nationality.
Can you make a video about the Central American Crisis when major civil wars and communist revolutions erupted in various countries in Central America in the midst of the Cold War?
Yes I would love this
T WE 😎👍
@Z'Q marketing.
shouldnt someone talk to otto skornzanie about this.
@Z'Q because communism just means death and hunger, the other factions at least have something to offer
Well it is fairly easy to win a war when the other side:
- Does not formaly mobilize from the start.
- Does not have a centralized chain of command.
- Does not have a single ideology.
Keep coping leftist trash.
You forgot -wastes ammunition on statues of Jesus
Astro keep hating rightist trash
@Lord Kevolo ok right-winger
You forgot -disbands the part of the army that sided with them.
Just naval transport your army before the civil war fires and get an easy victory before 1937
Taureor liked that
But spanish civil War is instantly fire
Doesnt work anymore
thats shitty in MP, cuz spain is all about giving your friends some juicy air XP
Kaiser Mapping knowing paradox probably not
@13:00 USSR: “communism is about brotherhood, sharing, putting people above the alter of profit!”
Spanish Republicans: “so you will help us?”
USSR: “yeah, but you will have to pay”
Great video as always - and congratulations with 400k subscribers!
Nice Victoria 2 Pop counters to represent the social groups of Spain.
I belive he was inspired by the pop images, then he made them handmade and no pixelated
One thing to remember was the anti-religious nature of the republican forces. It is one thing to target someone who is rich and owns land, but no religion is going to survive without people who aren't rich and land owning. If one side is going to have you executed just for praying then you're going to side with those who won't.
It's absolutely no surprise, but often the godlessness of the republican forces is "overlooked" by modern narratives
If remember correctly most communists are very anti religious
I'm not at all excusing the actions of the Republicans, but the "godlessness" of the forces was in reaction to the brutal treatment of the Catholic Church against workers fighting for the fruits to their own labor. Again, nuns and priests alike and the innocents caught between crossfire didn't deserve what happened to them, but don't overlook what the church did just like you wouldn't overlook what the Republicans did. Keep that same energy.
@@dukeofirony58 ah, so because the church didn’t support an authoritarian, Inherently atheist idealogy, that had just massacred thousands of priests and burnt thousands of churches in Russia, they somehow had this coming? Are you aware of how disgustingly authoritarian you sound, imagine thinking it’s ok to religiously genocide an entire group because they didn’t support your stupid communist movement. This is why the nationalists won, what a gross reasoning for mass murder. Also we can all tell your defending their actions clown you literally went mask off with your hatred for Catholics or I guess anyone who isn’t a commie
@@dopaminedreams1122 in no way shape or form did I even mention hating Catholics, as religion is common among the working class and to hate religion is to alienate a lot of people. But okay, continue to have your shitfit. Just makes you look bad and me more reasonable.
Your next historical topic could be either the Korean War of the 1950s which is also criminally underrated or the Iranian Revolution of 1979.
Easter Rising of 1916 would be great Or the Irish War of Independence (1919-1921) Or the Irish Civil War of 1922-1923
I love this.. also Hilbert sounds like he just woke up or was still sleepy when he was on his bit of the video.
Kind of cut out the parts of the miner strike being ordered to be put down by the republican government and the moves taken against the church and conservative peoples of Spain which helped push much of the military towards the coup.
Also, he did not mention that the assassination of the leader of government oppositon by the leftist popular front was what triggered the civil war. Or that the socialist leader Indalecio Prieto brought a gun to the parliament and aimed with it to the right-wing representatives.
The republican government at that time was a coalition between the CEDA and a republican centre right party which could do little to stop the CEDA's demands.
Republican govt made no attempt to stop leftist violence. Also, people feared a Red Terror and what they knew had occurred in Russia after the Reds took power.
@@adriancampos8640 no Adrián, en el 36 es el frente popular quien gobierna , el gobierno del ceda es anterior
@@carlosbraun5791 Ya, estaba hablando de la revolución de Asturias en el 34 durante el gobierno de Lerroux.
I keep hearing this "the nationalists were the wealthy, the republicans were the poor" shtick which is simply not true. While the nationalists were supported by a large portion of the landed nobility and bourgeoisie, the bulk of the nationalists were Catholic peasants, workers and soldiers from all over the country. Half the country supported the nationalists, and I can tell you, half the country wasn't rich. They were simply poor, religious folk who were tired of seeing radical communists and anarchists burn their churches, rape nuns and slaughter people for the sake of being Catholic, with total impunity and indifference from the republican government.
LOL. Not really. Although, yes most of the National side were poor Catholics. They were in a sense, just like modern poor republicans; useful idiots brainwashed into fighting against their own interests by an elite that didn’t give two shits about them.
@@javiermesa-martinez8731 cope
@Steven Chadwick yeah, the nationalists won and their lives improved. The communists just don’t want that to be real so they say it isn’t.
Every time I play HOI4 that always happens. Sometimes Franco wins, other times Republican Spain wins. It’s a meme on Drew Durnil
Avery The Cuban-American the nationalists always win on mine
Last time I played, the Spanish civil war lasted long enough to spill into WW2. Nationalists joined the Axis, Republicans joined the Allies.
nationalists always win if you send troops as germany
Otherwise, D-Day on Spain
Lmaooo my Spain went communist once and formed a coalition with communist France and ended up 'winning' not really but kinda. Germany couldnt fight spain/France with Russia invading their eastern front and France stayed the same size but Spain wrecked Italy. The allies didn't do a whole lot but aided the communists
I've been living in Spain for over 10 years and for most of that time I've worked teaching english to spanish kids. It still drives me crazy the fact they learn nothing about the civil war in school it's literally half a page in history books!!!!
Well half of the older Generation was pro fascist... ask a Japanese after nanjing, same effect
History is not told in Spain, very badly
Entiende que la guerra, fue un desastre. En si, el problema no fue solamente la guerra civil, fue un problema de base, que vino desde que los Republicanos perdieron las elecciones en el 31, porque si, hubo unas elecciones para o bien seguir con la republica, o bien continuar siendo monárquicos. Perdió la opción republicana, pero como el rey, huyó, pues se tuvo de todas formas república. Esto y que la República NO admitía que un lado pudiese gobernar. Es decir, para la Republica, los únicos que podían de verdad gobernar eran los de Izquierda. Y cuando ganó la CEDA (Centro derecha) armaron todo un jaleo, llegando a levantarse en armas (siendo uno de ellos, la revolución de Asturias).
La guerra civil, fue una consecuencia de una nefasta Republica, que estaba más ocupada creando enemigos (es decir, quemando iglesias, matando lideres de la oposición, invalidando la mitad de la opinión de la población) que arreglar los problemas heredas. Como esperabas que saliese....
De todas formas, no estamos metidos al 100% en ello. Franco, es una estatua de marmol, y en el viaje de la vida, tienes que ir con lo fundamental, y la estatua de marmol de 50kilos, pues te lo tienes que dejar en casa.
Don't worry, I've heard they're working on another one.
The civil war was a major disaster for the country and unless Germany, we are not really known for learning from our mistakes, so the war is a taboo today. There's also a problem and is that there are still millions of people in Spain that consider totally legitimate to kill others for political differences and that defend a war that destroyed the country. Also there is a total lack of political literacy in the right wing and most right wingers think that being a democrat is being a communist
Title: How the Nationalists won in Spain
Me: Maybe they used MagellanTV
magellan was portuguese,so...
Francesc del Arca, but he sailed for Spain
@@delarkaBCN He was naturalised Spanish.
@@delarkaBCN and napoleon is Italian
it’s crazy how franco remained in power until 1975. 30 years after ww2 ended
Compare Spain in 1939 (or even 1931) with Spain in 1975 and you'll understand.
Spanish Civil War TL:DR:
Republicans: No pasaran!
Nationalists: ya pasamos....
Me: Si
Literally what Vox is saying xD
¡Ya Hemos Pasao!
Cara al sol!
Nietos de rojos: no nos matasteis a todos!!
Oooooh, you grew a beard! Nice!
Hope he can make some history beards 📼hehe
*Why people with the best moustaches suck as leaders*
@@natrone23 lmao
The Armchair Historian you are still young, I see a most glorious beard in your future.
Excellent video as always. It's been great watching this channel grow.
*Spain watching everyone killing each other*
*Spain* : hey someone wanna fight me?
*Everyone* : No!
*Spain* : Well, i can always fight myself
*Does hara-kiri*
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The nationalist won because they had the better flag.
And they have food too.
Nah mate, the eagle is too fat, the republican one looks cooler
Because Franco united anti-republicans, on the other hand anarchists and trotskyist in the late years of war were supressed by stalinists. So there was a lot of infighting on the republican side.
And a better Anthem, and some great marches, like Prietas las Filas.
nah the purple on the republican flag hit different.
Kind of ironic that the nationalists received more foreign support than the internationalists.
no, the republicans had way better means and support by the soviet union, They even had about half of the spanish regular army and about 3/4 of the navy when the war started. But the republicans were such a mess that they could not held their ground. The nationalist, a spectrum which included right wing republicans to fascist, monarchist, old regime monarchist and traditional catholics decided no name Franco as their sole military leader and dictator in october 1st of 1936. Many times the nationalist only had to push the republicans, then sit and wait for the internal skirmish.
@@gerardsotxoa, forget not about the Communists purging the anarchists, international volunteers, unionists, clergymen, and non-communist republicans. Red Terror.
"Viva la Muerte"
No it isn't. During the Civil War, the South, often the more nationalistic of the 2, not without good reason, was more dependent on foreigners than the north's who's industrial economy was mostly self contained and had most the resources it needed at home already to grind the South in attrition even without having to resort to using foreigners in their army more often than the South, which they did.
@@Enjoimaschine Viva la muerte es una frase de Millan-Astray un fascista no es una frase comunista que tiene que ver en lo que has dicho😂😂😅
@@Jorgejtrdr soy fascista... Lol no. Es un solamente chiste. creo que la frase de Milán-Astray es muy tanta y oxímoronic pero divertido decirlo.
"Long live death"
Thanks for covering this hard to find content
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I couldn't get past 4:48 because you completely ignored the communists bombing churches and killing priests. How can you omit such a key part of the political divide in Spain on the eve of its civil war? It is like saying that the White Russians had done nothing to spur the revolt led by the Bolsheviks. Come on. You're better than that.
The Majority of atrocities in the Spanish Civil war were committed by the nationalist side.
Estimates of executions behind the Nationalist lines during the Spanish Civil War range from fewer than 50,000 to 200,000
Figures for the Red Terror in Spain range from 38,000 to 72,344.
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor Thanks for the info. However, my point remains about partisanship in history. I am also wary of this numbers game. Aren't all of those deaths tragic? I refuse Stalin's dictum: "A single death is a tragedy. A million is a statistic." Best to you.
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor the difference is Spain won
Really good work Griffin. The animation gets better and better !
I like the video overall, but it feels a bit bias. It glosses over Republican atrocities(looting of churches and mansions, brutal executions of the clergy and wealthy, rape of conservative women including nuns, etcetera) during the war, and doesn't mention the growing political violence prior to the 1936 coup which included the execution of Calvo Sotelo who was the leader of the monarchist faction. Saying the uprising occurred solely because the right wasn't happy with the election results is factually wrong. I understand this is meant to be a short video, but you could've and should've provided a fuller picture.
I agree, not to say that one side is better than the other, but i see what you are saying
Indeed, the uprising was not just because the right wasn’t happy with the election results but also because they hadn’t gotten over the deposing of the right wing dictatorship that preceded the republic.
The election was rigged anyways. That was the whole reason for the coup.
@@KeterClassHistory based
Totally agree
Was so hyped for this episode. Superb as always, worth the wait!
To be fair Largo Caballero (member of the Popular Front) also threatened to start a civil war if the CEDA won the elections...
I heard that from ceda not from largo caballero
@@Hengilore I heard that both sides would attempt to coup if they were to lose the elections. And they did.
That's true. For sure.
The civil war was inevitable im telling ya side or the other side wining elections would end on civil war anyways
Nice Victoria 2 Pop symbols there friend, Great Video!
@8:50 "not AS systemic" is hardly a significant differentiation
Somebody probably told it already but for more informations about May Days, inner working of Republicans and volunteers and war as a whole, read the book Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell.
It's notable that other famous British writer, J. R. R. Tolkien was outspoken supporter of Nationalist because of his Catholic faith and Republican murders of Catholic clergy.
George orwell was a comunist basterd
@@marcofernandezdearaozserra5125 Ever read him?
@@boboboborific yes i’ve read animal farm
@@marcofernandezdearaozserra5125 ok stfu
@@marcofernandezdearaozserra5125 yeah and he’s great
Thank you 4 outlining the fact that fascism and communism were THE 2 competing political philosophies at the time. If you are in college now they conveniently gloss over this and claim fascism was the old order and communism was the new. Insane.
It’s even funnier when you consider fascism is newer than communism by more than a half century.
Ikr. My highschool teacher said that they're basically the same because they were both "authoritarian".
@Salterino Kripperino No need, I already am :)
@@Daniel-pg9qh Be proud of it.
@@Daniel-pg9qh And he is right, many here apparently don't know fascism means national-SOCIALISM. Fascism, socialism and communism are basically the same idea, the difference between them is that fascism didn't want to destroy the fabrics of society to build the utopias they promised. The opposite to fascism and communism is democracy.
For a different look at the war, try The Passionate War. It's told largely as a collected narrative of the many strange, brutal, and sometimes darkly humorous events in Spain.
Many foreign powers operated in Spain before and during the war. While it is sometimes seen as a training ground for the world war to follow. It also offered textbook examples of how not to fight a modern war.
Great video with a lot of details, thanks for doing so much work on our modern history which still influences our days.
I see you didn’t use my laser cannon suggestion while you were editing this video. Shame. They would have been period accurate
Could you do a video on the Syrian civil war?
Ethan Fallert prolly not, current and controversial
Best expect that video by the 2030s
That would be a firestorm, best he didn't.
Is that thing still going on?
@@cv4809 dont expect that shitshow to end anytime soon.
Guernica:
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The Luftwaffe and Regio Aeronautica:
*"we've got a city to burn"*
Because war is such a laugh for the people on the ground. ruclips.net/video/QpK_x1q_rDE/видео.html
Thank you! This was a really great introduction /summary. I tried watching 4 or 5 other short Spanish Civil War YT vides before yours but they were so hard to listen to & watch that I couldn't stay with them; the speech was too fast, very quick and 'loud' images and lettering, all a bit too much of a 'car-crash' experience, in my opinion! Thanks for making something different & digestible!
The T-26 was a soviet vehicle, not a German one.
Yes He has made a few faux pas. No biggie.
But it is about the Spanish civil war. Like most info about it pretty much, been re-released story been shorted, digitally remastered, with scenes removed while other parts over extended highlighted.
Its like a Lucas production. Hit n miss but that's why it's one of the most intriguing parts of history. As its been revised more than the bible.
Ye kinda made my head scratch why the nationalists looked to be deployed alongside them. If anything it be a compilation of L3s from Italy and panzer 2s from Germany.
Nationalist did capture and use some T-26's
Blah b Nope, it was a legally purchased british export design with its awful gun mounting of 2 mg turrets were exchanged for a single superior turret with a 45 millimetre cannon.
Blah b I'm just shocked that I, as a Swede, was just called a Russabu by some idio-bjectively wrong person* on the internet.
You forgot when the popular front killed the leader of the opossition and the political violence got to the streets
YES...
Great overview. It is interesting to see how many of the same dynamics have also proved to be decisive in the recent Syrian Civil War.
I love this channel's art style
how you forgott to mention the red terror murdering and doing atrocities
The red terror is nothing compared to fascist terror
Not really. If the communist would won it would be pretty same of the Franco's regime
No that's just winning the war
@@dicklarson5253 spoken like a true commie
@@rafanana0077 lol Spain wouldn’t even exist if those guys won
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@@danshakuimo hahahahahahahah
Facts
So in short the Nationalist had better leadership.
Think about it.. These are common working people (sheep herders, coal miners, fisherman, laborers ect) going up against the General Army of Spain. You see it in the uniforms and weapons. The Nationalists had manufactured tailored uniforms, the Second Republic mainly had a white button collar shirt and a beret.
@@asturiasceltic3183 Cry about it, we won
монолит, no one was asking nor cares about your stinkingfamily
I love how the anarchists look like they're from seattle
as someone who lives in Seattle I can confirm this. And with the mess this country is in now I would rather President Trump become just like Franco at this point I don't even care anymore
@@RabidNemo loooool, noo, prepare for us communism and beautiful feet of future president AOC after 2 term president Kamal a
@@RabidNemo Oh my lol. Imagine thinking that Trump cares about anything other than his public image, money, prestige and being a dumbass on Twitter.
@@szymonulhurski1 LOL! As if AOC actually cares about American people, ahahah! Also, what is it with many of AOC's fans and even some haters having foot fetish fantasies about her?
@@szymonulhurski1 Delusional commie is delusional
Spain: Civil war
Portugal: *grabs popcorn*
In fact, we supported the nationalists.
While it is easy to talk about the mass bombing of civilians becoming a more common /well known German tactic , it seems very misleading. Every major power in WWII did that. The Allies, were if anything, far better at it, with much more in the way of air power to put towards it, and causing equal if not greater destruction.
This channel is insanely bias towards the allies in ww2, but in particular the soviets, he NEVER mentions the evil crap they did, he even blamed Finland for being invaded by the commies, because they were apparently “anti communist” like gee I wonder why
Showed this vid to my spanish friends and they were like "it's meh". Specifically they didn't like how the armchair historian glosses over how the republicans had their share of massacres and burnt down churches, butchering priests and nuns across the country. If those don't move you, then they also killed other lefties such as catalonia anarchists aswell as accepting ultra right wing nationalist basque and catalonian elements. The miner uprising was a staged coup by the PSOE (same party currently in power) and the only reason it doesn't get bad press is because was left wing and ultimately failed.
So yeah, after learning that and many other tidbits from my spanish friends , vid could be better indeed but it serves as a decent enough entry point I guess as long as one keeps in mind this vid glosses over the atrocities of one side and therefore (whether intentionally or not) make it seem like a good vs evil fight when the reality was far messier.
People tend to demonize one side or the other. I despise both
Usarkar Zts Why? There was one good side and a bad one. The side of order, unity, and faith, and the one of anarchy, division and degeneracy
@@jcristero2476 and who are you to say that?
Usarkar Zts A knowledgeable person, and a descendant of people of suffered due to communism
@@jcristero2476 So an easily convinced fool who lets elements of the past dictate all their current beliefs?
All right wing governments today *wish* they were anything like the communist governments they claim to despise. Stalin's absolute power is exactly what right wingers desire while claiming to hate it.
Not to mention the pagan "degeneracy" and polygamy of many powerful fascists throughout their history. They're just power hungry men like any other, but they say the word "tradition" and you'll goosestep for the same actions you claim to despise.
Wannabe is a good name for you.
Thank you for video sir
He was authoritarian by definition, not totalitarian
"One thing that I am sure of, and which I can answer truthfully, is that whatever the contingencies that may arise here, wherever I am there will be no communism."
Francisco Franco
instead there will be a brutal dictatorship
@@brandonk.4864 lol as if communism wasn't worse. No mames
@@brandonk.4864 you say that as if it’s a bad thing
@@aeterna8757 you say that as if it's a good thing
@@brandonk.4864 that’s what communism is to be fair
love how what the left did to priests churches graves was left out
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A lot of them were supportive of fascism, and indoctrinating the populace
«The only church that enlightens, is a burning one»
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Lol, yeah, but that quote was from Durutti, an anarchist during the civil war
@@Wiggyam As an Atheist, would you include Temples and Mosques in your description of enlightenment?
@@cccenturion4480 No of course he can't !
@@WiggyamTFW when a supporter of anarchy (The most backwards ideology ever) talks about "enlightening" things. lol!
Anarchists and Syndicalists: “Fascist Pigs!”
The Nationalists, eating pork: “Yeah, actually”
The rest of the spanish note: "For the arms - the homeland, the bread and justice."
Title should be "How the Nationalists saved Spain."
My wife's family lived in Spain. They have a nice neighbor, 3 stories up. her father was shot, in Madrid, in 1936, along with 2,500 other officers, priests, and so on, by communists. There is a field north of Madrid, where over 10,000 church employees- nuns, priests, etc.- were simply shot. There were atrocities on both sides.
When foreign historians translate "Los nacionales" for "the nationalists" they fall in the same error as Orwell did when translating how the rebels called themselves, again "los nacionales", the nationals. The nationalists in spanish means "los nacionalistas". During the war, and in spanish politics as a whole, nationalists is how catalan and basque pro independence call themselves. So check spanish language knowledge to overcome this error.
@Pyrrhaz *Los nacionales* era como se llamaban a si mismos, y como eran llamados por el bando del frente popular, todos aquellos que secundaron el alzamiento militar dirigido por Mola. En España, hoy en día, como entonces, si dices los nacionalistas te refieres a independentistas vascos, catalanes, gallegos o incluso canarios. Con que oigas cualquier tertulia estos días así se refieren a los votos que necesita Sánchez para conseguir una mayoría, "sus socios nacionalistas". Por cierto mutil, ni donostiarra naiz, ulertzen?
Hoi4 lads know this vid very well
Bloody German tanks blocking my advances...
just hold on the river line in the north so your allies can farm for a bit, then attack and kill spain, it's so ez
For everyone interested in the Spanish civil war I would suggest to you to read the book, The Spanish Holocaust. Franco's men were some of the most brutal men I have ever read about.
It's funny when you realise Franco constantly compared his war to the reconquista to "save spain," even though his army slaughtered the locals constantly and had moors in his own forces.
Also anthony beever's 'The Spanish Civil War' it's record of the early war in adalusia is easy to read and well sourced. The actions taken in Seville and Malaga are a prime example of the Nationalists brutality and lack of empathy to any against them.
Wow, no talk of the violence against the landowners and the clergy that caused the coup? Seriously revised history here.
taking intro account that there were a total of 5900 clergies killed by the republicans and 250000 civilians by the nationalists it is easy to understand why he didn't mention it.
@@nihon2251 what? That's a lot of priests. Comparing clergy to all encompassing "civilians" is not a comparison at all. You're talking casualties during a three year civil war, I'm talking murderous bands of "socialists and anarchists" that went around torching churches and killing priests before Franco even left Morocco. It seems you are confused, maybe go read a real history of the Spanish civil war and it's background.
@@brandonkrueger5763 hey, I simply misread it. For your knowledge, such bands and assaults, though they happened, were by no means a common thing and the numbers of burned down churches or killed priests seem to be astoundingly inflated.
Such a shame that not all clergy was purged. It w'd fair effect after leeching of Spanish citizens for 500 years. Religion is cancer
Well, two things:
1- I really liked how the video is and how it's presented(so I used it as a base for my civil war project in history class)
2-My father is from Guernica so, I've been there a lot of times and have visited the tree that survived the bombing and also if you go to Omago (a bakery there which in my opinion is the best one) you can see that the glass on the roof depicts the bombing
El abuelo de una profesora mia fue el alcalde de guernica durante la guerra civil. Mi visabuelo fue herido en combate tambien en la guerra, una bala le cruzó todo un lado de la cabeza. Saludos desde Chile, donde la guerra civil aun se recuerda.