I have had a serratus problem due to plexus brachialis neuralgia. Back then i had medial winging. I also have neck issues and compressed nerves. Emg and MRI showed the issues. I now have a lateral winging. Nobody, neuro surgeon, physio, GP, seems to know the difference. I always get scandalised for asking a medical explanation so i know what to do to rehab. I do expect a shoulder specialist or a docter of physio to know these things.. No? Or they just say nothing because i am a lost case? Thank you so much for explaining. This is helpfull so i can finally try to adress it well. Meanwhile i have a tear in my supraspinatus because they adressed it wrong ... And i paid for this all, and i got yelled at..... imagine that..
I’d like to speak to you! I have an extreme case and it’s 3+ years. My diagnosis started with broken neck spinal cord injury then stroke. Couldn’t use my left arm. I’m suffering! No one understands.
wow, you just described everything I needed for 12 years of painfull life. After going to countless professors, phisicians its the first good description. Now I know what to do. thanks.
@@yusuf-qh3zc Hi, I have a wing scapula. It occurred 20 days ago after sports. Doctors said it was due to damage to the long thoracic nerve. Is your wing one-sided? Since when do you have wings? What process did you go through to recover?
I find it very strange that so many doctors go straight to pain meds and then leave it there until the patient is in so much pain that they agree to have a surgeon dig around inside them, shaving away bits of bone, only to complain that the surgery hasn't had the desired effect and resign themselves to massive amounts of pain meds for the rest of their lives. It is very strange to me that people who suffer back and/or neck pain will insist that no exercise will possibly relieve them of their suffering because they believe that their doctor would have prescribed it if that were the case and very few doctors will entertain the idea that actually looking after your body can prevent and/or heal sickness and injury.
For the past 5 months I’ve been doing medial scapula exercises when the whole time I had a lateral scapula winging in so pissed rn I’ve waisted so much time, I’m glad I came across this on my recommended 😡😡
Thank you so much for this detailed explanation. It's actually very helpful as someone who is hypermobile, has arterial TOS, cervical ribs and lateral scapular winging. This definitely explains the connection for me. I'm guessing my cervical ribs on C7 probably make this a tricky one to treat before the removal of my cervical ribs?
I have this, from a one armed press up. On the way down the serratus was fullly stretched and it gave way with a tight pinch under the arm i felt and heard my scapulae slide across my ribs at the back. the top of the scapluae stick through the trapezius causing neck paralysis on the right side in addition to pinching of the serratus on my back by incorrect scauplae movement and aching under the arm at the sight of the nerve. it also causes numbness in the arm and forces my shoulder to sit forward in the joint. the top of the arm, where it joins the body this joint is mis aligned due to the forward inclination of my arm from bad scapulae traction and position. sometimes my pectoral twitches up and down this is how i learned it was nerve damage, originally i thought it was shoulder injury due to the way the shoulder joint was affected from the misaligned scapulae. i had it checked in a mri and the said it was fine i was like no listen my arm doesnt work, pain is one thing but my arm actually doesnt work, i cant use it the same, now i have studied this i know what it is so i can better explain to the doctor and get it checked again, i need a winged scapule test. and serratus examination, the pain in the joint is a secondary issue a symptom of the actual problem. nerve damage can cause this confusion on where the pain is because the whole area is numb with different frequencies of pain dotted arrounbd. and when your arm just hangs there you think its the shoulder but its not its the side of your body.. the serratus is an exceptional muscle, fascinating, the side of your body is the postural support of the arm the mucles form part of the six pack in aesthetic appearance, which is why its confusing because the actually are responsible for shoulder posture and rotation or movement.
Thank you 🙏🌷🌻 for this excellent information 😊👍 Thank you 🙏 for your time and dedication and your knowledge Dr. Nabil you have a wonderful heart ❤️🙏 blessings for you and your family 🌷🌻🌼👍😊🙋
Is there a chance that scapular winging is not due to a lesion? I have perfectly symmetrical medial scapular winging to both scapulae, that possibly was influenced by a very rapid growth of my (very heavy) breasts in early adolescence on to a slight and thin body frame, so the rhomboids’ function were pretty much annulled for years -until I was finally diagnosed with scapular winging in my early 40’s; after years of seeking relief from recurring upper trapeze contractures
Very helpful I damaged vertebrae when a teenager then the long therasic nerve stopped functioning causing winging of scapula I'm now wondering if there is still an impingement as nerve has never recovered after many years, I now recently tore a tendon in my shoulder, obviously all likely to be connected but no physician joint the dots yet.
Hi, I have a wing scapula. It occurred 20 days ago after sports. Doctors said it was due to damage to the long thoracic nerve. Is your wing one-sided? Since when do you have wings? What process did you go through to recover? Have you had an emg done to detect damage to the thoracic nerve?
@@rainman07I have on left! I’m in laid back position 2 plus years! My situation is pretty extreme. I had a broken neck C2 to C7 spinal cord injury things look very grim. I had a stroke. I have been in a bad position like this for five years now I have had MRIs. I have been to orthopedic surgeons. I have EMG’s. I am now being told. I need an implant to give me 24 months of relief or I will never have any relief. I feel very sad cry a lot, and I cannot do anything. I have no use of my left arm. I cannot bend. I cannot move. I am disabled. If you see my picture you would never believe that this is happening to meused to be OK I am no longer OK at all. It has made me depressed and sad.
This is an excruciatingly terrible disease. Its ruining my life. Wtf. Thank you Dr. You are a blessing. Tjs is horrible. First my tricep. Then months later my deltoid, and now im winging a year later. I can tell if im getting better or worse. 44 year old male.
I wrote a comment before, but it was deleted and I was going to delete it anyways. Cause I am not sure what happened to this scapula when I was taking injection in the deltoid itself, but my scapula got winging from osteopathy 5 years ago and I was getting better before this injection naturally as the scoliosis that was caused by this injury subsided as someone was helping me. So what to do I feel problem in my heart and chest and whole body . I already had a surgery also in my adductors years ago and I was finally getting better but things went worse after this injection in the deltoid. I believe the guy pulled the muscle, but I don't know why on earth he would do that and cause harm? What are your suggestions kindly please? I feel like I am going to suffocate
Hello! I was doing sports 20 days ago, everything was normal. 2 days later I woke up with terrible pain and I had a winged scapula on my right side. When I went to the doctors they said it was because the long thoracic nerve couldn't work the serratus muscle. The pain is gone but I have severe weakness in my right arm and the serratus anterior muscle is not working. Did you neurologist also have an emg? Do you have a nerve problem or is it just a muscle problem?
@@rainman07 please contact me shellthomas1968 I have an extreme case I was told i need an implant sprint. I had broken neck Spinal cord injury stroke list goes on! I’m in the most severe pain. I can’t even type this!!
I can’t sleep I can’t sit I can’t stand up for to long mines been hurting for 4 years backs my whole back hurt I’m always in pain back pain I believe because of my scapula pain I feel like it’s a small little ball there like maybe a rip tissue idk I’m always in pain
Hey I’m kinda confused on which type of scapular winging I have. Does lateral winged scapula cause you to have uneven lats. The side of my scapular winging cannot be targeted in exercises.
@@prasurjya05 what have you done so far to try to fix it? I can’t find anything on the internet to fix lateral winged scapula. I’m thinking about going to see a physical therapist
I’ve been working out with a winged scapula for a year now. I’ve gotten stronger but I still can’t stand doing pushing exercises like bench. Can’t bench at all. Only with dumbbells I’ve recently been able to push more. Still causes tons of shoulder pain from the winged scapula. But it seems my body has adapted and is tryna to compensate for it.
@@nabilebraheim Dr I am a spray painter for many years with forward extension of my arm In the coarse of a day it will go up and down thousands of times I had a funny sensation of my trap muscle and my scapular now moves out from the spine and lifts up to compensate Had x ray and there is a narrowing of the c6 nerve root Could this be a cause of this problem I thought it was shoulder problem however after watching your video Now not so sure Can this injury be caused by my job When working for the past few years I have experienced a fair bit of pain in my Rh side of neck ,is there hope for me ?
@@andrewroberthook3310 please contact me immediately. I will tell you about my severe condition. I might be able to assist you and give you details about this horrible, horrible disease.
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Thank you, this is very informative and goes a long way in helping me to potentially diagnose my own issue.
Thank-you very much! Your explanations and visual aides are always incredibly helpful.
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I have see many videos. you are the only that knows about that. thanx man.
I have had a serratus problem due to plexus brachialis neuralgia. Back then i had medial winging. I also have neck issues and compressed nerves. Emg and MRI showed the issues. I now have a lateral winging. Nobody, neuro surgeon, physio, GP, seems to know the difference. I always get scandalised for asking a medical explanation so i know what to do to rehab. I do expect a shoulder specialist or a docter of physio to know these things.. No? Or they just say nothing because i am a lost case? Thank you so much for explaining. This is helpfull so i can finally try to adress it well. Meanwhile i have a tear in my supraspinatus because they adressed it wrong ... And i paid for this all, and i got yelled at..... imagine that..
I’d like to speak to you! I have an extreme case and it’s 3+ years.
My diagnosis started with broken neck spinal cord injury then stroke. Couldn’t use my left arm. I’m suffering! No one understands.
wow, you just described everything I needed for 12 years of painfull life. After going to countless professors, phisicians its the first good description. Now I know what to do. thanks.
@@yusuf-qh3zc Hi, I have a wing scapula. It occurred 20 days ago after sports. Doctors said it was due to damage to the long thoracic nerve. Is your wing one-sided? Since when do you have wings? What process did you go through to recover?
Any luck finding help?
@@yusuf-qh3zc any update
@@yusuf-qh3zc do you regularly stretch?
I find it very strange that so many doctors go straight to pain meds and then leave it there until the patient is in so much pain that they agree to have a surgeon dig around inside them, shaving away bits of bone, only to complain that the surgery hasn't had the desired effect and resign themselves to massive amounts of pain meds for the rest of their lives. It is very strange to me that people who suffer back and/or neck pain will insist that no exercise will possibly relieve them of their suffering because they believe that their doctor would have prescribed it if that were the case and very few doctors will entertain the idea that actually looking after your body can prevent and/or heal sickness and injury.
Thank you so much. I am going to work on my serratis anterior to help my pain
For the past 5 months I’ve been doing medial scapula exercises when the whole time I had a lateral scapula winging in so pissed rn I’ve waisted so much time, I’m glad I came across this on my recommended 😡😡
Hello, I’m dealing with the same thing did you fix it?
@@my7k169 no, turned out I had scoliosis and I didn't even realize bc it wasn't noticable till I got x rayed
Tell me did your scapula fixed
same here
Thank you so much for this detailed explanation. It's actually very helpful as someone who is hypermobile, has arterial TOS, cervical ribs and lateral scapular winging. This definitely explains the connection for me.
I'm guessing my cervical ribs on C7 probably make this a tricky one to treat before the removal of my cervical ribs?
Thank you sir for your precious time
I have this, from a one armed press up. On the way down the serratus was fullly stretched and it gave way with a tight pinch under the arm i felt and heard my scapulae slide across my ribs at the back. the top of the scapluae stick through the trapezius causing neck paralysis on the right side in addition to pinching of the serratus on my back by incorrect scauplae movement and aching under the arm at the sight of the nerve. it also causes numbness in the arm and forces my shoulder to sit forward in the joint. the top of the arm, where it joins the body this joint is mis aligned due to the forward inclination of my arm from bad scapulae traction and position. sometimes my pectoral twitches up and down this is how i learned it was nerve damage, originally i thought it was shoulder injury due to the way the shoulder joint was affected from the misaligned scapulae. i had it checked in a mri and the said it was fine i was like no listen my arm doesnt work, pain is one thing but my arm actually doesnt work, i cant use it the same, now i have studied this i know what it is so i can better explain to the doctor and get it checked again, i need a winged scapule test. and serratus examination, the pain in the joint is a secondary issue a symptom of the actual problem. nerve damage can cause this confusion on where the pain is because the whole area is numb with different frequencies of pain dotted arrounbd. and when your arm just hangs there you think its the shoulder but its not its the side of your body.. the serratus is an exceptional muscle, fascinating, the side of your body is the postural support of the arm the mucles form part of the six pack in aesthetic appearance, which is why its confusing because the actually are responsible for shoulder posture and rotation or movement.
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Helps patients and spouses of patients understand
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Any related to the snapping scapula
Thank you 🙏🌷🌻 for this excellent information 😊👍 Thank you 🙏 for your time and dedication and your knowledge Dr. Nabil you have a wonderful heart ❤️🙏 blessings for you and your family 🌷🌻🌼👍😊🙋
In depth explanation superb
Now I understand why I have so much pain and one shoulder is a few inches higher. Thank you!
Anything helped ?
Very good explanation. Thank you.
i have had lateral scapular winging for more than a decade now, i have felt no pain. tbh i just dont like the look of it when i bend down to get smth,
thanks for very helpful information
Thank you big ramy for the help 😂😂, that’s literally his voice
Both are Egyptian 😁
does fixing my medial scapula winging can fix my horners syndrome?
Fantastic info, Doc. Real helpful.
Excellent. Thank you 🙏
As usually great explanation
Would you recommend anyone in the US who does the Eden-Lange procedure? I live in Texas.
Is there a chance that scapular winging is not due to a lesion?
I have perfectly symmetrical medial scapular winging to both scapulae, that possibly was influenced by a very rapid growth of my (very heavy) breasts in early adolescence on to a slight and thin body frame, so the rhomboids’ function were pretty much annulled for years -until I was finally diagnosed with scapular winging in my early 40’s; after years of seeking relief from recurring upper trapeze contractures
Thank you. Just what I needed
Which doctor we have to go
Thank you, and please remember your occupational therapy practitioners!
Thank you doctor!
Very helpful I damaged vertebrae when a teenager then the long therasic nerve stopped functioning causing winging of scapula I'm now wondering if there is still an impingement as nerve has never recovered after many years, I now recently tore a tendon in my shoulder, obviously all likely to be connected but no physician joint the dots yet.
Hi, I have a wing scapula. It occurred 20 days ago after sports. Doctors said it was due to damage to the long thoracic nerve. Is your wing one-sided? Since when do you have wings? What process did you go through to recover? Have you had an emg done to detect damage to the thoracic nerve?
@@rainman07 yes it is just my right side.
@@rainman07I have on left! I’m in laid back position 2 plus years! My situation is pretty extreme. I had a broken neck C2 to C7 spinal cord injury things look very grim. I had a stroke. I have been in a bad position like this for five years now I have had MRIs. I have been to orthopedic surgeons. I have EMG’s. I am now being told. I need an implant to give me 24 months of relief or I will never have any relief. I feel very sad cry a lot, and I cannot do anything. I have no use of my left arm. I cannot bend. I cannot move. I am disabled. If you see my picture you would never believe that this is happening to meused to be OK I am no longer OK at all. It has made me depressed and sad.
This is an excruciatingly terrible disease. Its ruining my life. Wtf. Thank you Dr. You are a blessing. Tjs is horrible. First my tricep. Then months later my deltoid, and now im winging a year later. I can tell if im getting better or worse. 44 year old male.
best explanation
Nerve involved if does scapula winging heal fully
Thanks very much sir. Your videos are very informative.
Thanks, I always get these two mixed up!!
Awesome video. I have had this for over 6 years now. Has anyone had luck or know anyone who has overcame this by surgery?
You should probably see a physical therapist or sport focused doctor
@@rudygon426 I have tried man. I think my issue goes beyond PT
@@007studios8 Do you have damage to your long thoracic nerve? Did you have an emg from a neurologist for this?
Excellent video
I wrote a comment before, but it was deleted and I was going to delete it anyways. Cause I am not sure what happened to this scapula when I was taking injection in the deltoid itself, but my scapula got winging from osteopathy 5 years ago and I was getting better before this injection naturally as the scoliosis that was caused by this injury subsided as someone was helping me. So what to do I feel problem in my heart and chest and whole body . I already had a surgery also in my adductors years ago and I was finally getting better but things went worse after this injection in the deltoid. I believe the guy pulled the muscle, but I don't know why on earth he would do that and cause harm? What are your suggestions kindly please? I feel like I am going to suffocate
Hello! I was doing sports 20 days ago, everything was normal. 2 days later I woke up with terrible pain and I had a winged scapula on my right side. When I went to the doctors they said it was because the long thoracic nerve couldn't work the serratus muscle. The pain is gone but I have severe weakness in my right arm and the serratus anterior muscle is not working. Did you neurologist also have an emg? Do you have a nerve problem or is it just a muscle problem?
@@rainman07 please contact me shellthomas1968 I have an extreme case I was told i need an implant sprint.
I had broken neck
Spinal cord injury stroke list goes on! I’m in the most severe pain. I can’t even type this!!
Amazing work😊👍
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I have lateral winging that's bad
How many days to fixed
I can’t sleep I can’t sit I can’t stand up for to long mines been hurting for 4 years backs my whole back hurt I’m always in pain back pain I believe because of my scapula pain I feel like it’s a small little ball there like maybe a rip tissue idk I’m always in pain
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I'm pretty sure I never injured my long thoracic nerve, but yet I have scapular winging.
Good, thanks
Thank you.
Thanks
Thanks a lot
Sir i have lateral winged scapula and pinched nerve at cervical region
Im a bodybuilder . what should i need to do sir?
Hey I’m kinda confused on which type of scapular winging I have. Does lateral winged scapula cause you to have uneven lats. The side of my scapular winging cannot be targeted in exercises.
@@AYYYLMAOOOOO yes
@@prasurjya05 what have you done so far to try to fix it? I can’t find anything on the internet to fix lateral winged scapula. I’m thinking about going to see a physical therapist
@@AYYYLMAOOOOO first of all go and visit a orthopedic specialist. If sports ortho special then very good.
I’ve been working out with a winged scapula for a year now. I’ve gotten stronger but I still can’t stand doing pushing exercises like bench. Can’t bench at all. Only with dumbbells I’ve recently been able to push more. Still causes tons of shoulder pain from the winged scapula. But it seems my body has adapted and is tryna to compensate for it.
Thank you for the great sharing
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I can wing my scapula on command and have been able to my who life. Not sure why though.
Maybe my case of shoulder is lateral. I fuck the debugging job I did 6 years ago.
My scapula fell down
Same mine also..
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Pick it up bro😢
C8??
All neck related I had broken neck spinal cord injury and stroke.
No hope extreme pain laid back position 2 years!!
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Muscle transfer 🤔 that sounds like a terrible idea smh
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Fix that god awful thumbnail
What is wrong with it ?
@@nabilebraheim Dr I am a spray painter for many years with forward extension of my arm
In the coarse of a day it will go up and down thousands of times
I had a funny sensation of my trap muscle and my scapular now moves out from the spine and lifts up to compensate
Had x ray and there is a narrowing of the c6 nerve root
Could this be a cause of this problem
I thought it was shoulder problem however after watching your video
Now not so sure
Can this injury be caused by my job
When working for the past few years I have experienced a fair bit of pain in my Rh side of neck ,is there hope for me ?
I clicked this video because of the thumbnail. What is wrong with it?
@@andrewroberthook3310 please contact me immediately. I will tell you about my severe condition. I might be able to assist you and give you details about this horrible, horrible disease.