I think a more important thing to note is that the mystery person who may be the next protagonist is OFF the board which says to me this person will be from outside of thedas and it looks like their only connection will be Rook instead of any of the factions and figures who connect the past games. The more interesting implication is us finding the board during the game implies this person is already connected to Rook somehow.
This game sucks ass so no one cares except who like this shit. Its a slap on the face of all the previous dragon age fans even the ones who like inquisition
@dranzerjetli5126 I loved the game and am here to engage for that very reason. Why are you here if you hated it so much? Go get some fresh air cry-baby
I think what's exceptionally interesting about this is how the entirety of Thedas was seen as a "chess board," given how each of the heroes of Dragon Age has been stylized and how the Executors portray themselves. The Warden can be seen as a Knight piece, and knights have a respectable range of movement. The Hero Of Ferelden's exploits all take place within Ferelden, so while they cover a good amount of territory, it's primarily within that region. Hawke can be seen as a Pawn piece climbing their way into the ranks of a more powerful piece. They start out with nothing, and the territory they cover is within Kirkwall and Sundermount, which is considerably a smaller region than what the Warden had. However, once they've gotten their fame and fortune, they have a more dominant influence and are sought after (the Inquisition was looking for Hawke before they considered the Inquisitor). The Inquisitor can be seen as the Bishop, not just due to their religious importance, but also due to where and how they traverse. A bishop can only be on white or black squares, but they have a wider range of movement, similar to how the Inquisitor can go between Orlais and Ferelden. However, they mostly have their influence primarily in the South. Rook is obviously the Rook piece, but they have an even greater range of movement compared to any of the other pieces. They're not restricted to one color and can move across either square in cardinal directions. This is relative to how Rook can go to any of the regions in the game like the Necropolis, Minrathous, Arlathan Forest, and so on wherever the Crossroads can take them. All of this is to say the Executors have been influencing the events in Thedas in a way that a chess player would, and finally, they are about to make their big move. They're even dressed in white, and in Chess, white always moves first. However, whoever the next hero of Dragon Age is going to be, they would likely have to be someone who thinks outside the board and is unaffected by the rules and machinations of the Executors, as evidenced in the conspiracy board. While the four heroes of Dragon Age are all within the confines of the board, the fifth hero is not, likely giving us a clue that whoever the next hero is must be ready to beat the Executor's plan on a different playing field.
@@lisdraconis2212that's assuming the dagger represents Rook and not Solas. I also came here to say the bow on top was Leliana. Also the next age would not be named by Morrigan, it's named by the Divine, and Leliana was a candidate for Divine in Inquisition
Holly shit right! They can just take the bones of this game and not change much. Keep the same gameplay, same combat, maybe new specializations. Do full party combat gameplay and hire better writers and make a better story with more decisions.
I wouldn't bet on it cause Bioware as a whole has now switched over to focus on the next mass effect so it should be a few years after ME comes out that we even get hints of DA5
It's only been about 20 years since Origins so the HOF and Alistair still have 10 years before their Calling. Last we heard in Inquisition the HOF was looking into a way to stop the Calling. And we don't know how the Calling will work now since it's obvious it was the Elven Gods calling through their Archdemons. If there is another 10 year time skip I fully expect the Warden to return just in time
Problem being some people's Wardens are dead, including the one in previous default worldstates. I seriously doubt we'll be seeing the HoF again since theres just so much variety its really hard to account for it all and people would absolutely RIOT if it was done wrong. People have already been dissatisfied with Hawke and Inky, and those characters are waaayy more linear.
We also STILL don't know where TF The Architect went, if anyone could help stop the calling, especially since all the Archdemons are gone now, I would bet on The Architect. Doubly so because he was likely a Magister like Corypheus and could respawn in a new body even if the HoF killed him.
@@ivanhunter6492 He's well past his time, this world belongs to the people of this time. Besides he never liked this version of Thedas or the world anyways.
@@Rhysdux I'm guessing you wanted to scramble the egg, not everyone will. Kai Leng like Royce (Simon Randall) I'd gladly kill a thousand fold, for me killing Solas is like killing Anakin Skywalker, sheeps in wolves clothing are less satisfying to end.
@@anderporascu5026bruh varric was the heart of dragon age. Killing him early is a slap to the face of every person who was a fan of the previous games.
Ever since finishing my first playthrough I have been kind of depressed and feeling empty without anything to look forward to for now (after 10 years of waiting, which had become part of my personality tbh haha), but HELL YES, you don't disappoint. Thank you for some Dragon Age 5 clowning, nature is healing and I am me again !
The game probably didnt sell well enough and rightfully so. Its not dragon age its just a bunch of leftists morons who decided to shit on the previous games and the characters.
Yap I agree, first person I see connecting the Devouring Storm with the Executors and it was the first thing I thought when I saw the post credits scene, they are the same or connected somehow
If Solas' story is inspired by Richard the 3rd, it is a fitting end as Henry the 8th became Richard the 3rd's downfall before the play ended. Either way, Solas' story ends here and I daresay Mythal's has only begun. Thedas is her realm and she'll fight to the death for it.
@@anderporascu5026 I am more creeped out by Titans. Harding was downright creepy in Veilguard. And fate of Valta was also creepy. I half expect Renn to be lyrium-infused zombie ...
@@tamarak.8800 dunno, my Rook like exchanging jabs with ... let me look at terminology by Davrin - ah yes there it is - "Baldy". I did redeem Solas. I owe that to Inquisitor and well Solas did helped us with both dalish slaves and how to kill Evanuris. It's just that he constantly tells half-truths and half-lies.
What I want to know is: why are there TWO red threads connecting all previous games together, leading to the final image? Why not one single red thread? Why are there TWO? WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN? 🤔 oh, we tinfoilin'! Can't wait to spend the next however many years clowning and being insufferable about DA5. LET'S GOOOOOOO
Okay so here’s my thoughts on why there are two: They say something in the secret ending that makes me think they’re “reshaping” history. So what if the second string is how the original first timeline (that we haven’t seen) went? I feel like the time magic quest that happened with Dorian in inquisition has to be related to this somehow. 😅
They are all caused by the previous, Ferelden blight directly casused Kirkwall which caused Inquisition which caused Veilguard which causes whatever the hell which if we take the secret cutscene into the account planned the betrayal at the start of the ferelden blight which caused everything after.
I truly just interpreted this as a cheeky nod to the player-outside the board but the through line through all four of the games (thus the double chord that only connects through the four symbols for the four games). I obviously could be wrong, but that is just what I thought as I ran through there. 😊
I think if EA can let Bioware cook for the next one after seeing the success of BG3 they can go all the way for the next one, we saw in the art book that they had some fantastic ideas. Veilguard had some bad things but also good ones where we can see that bioware learned from the previous game but everybody is so stuck on the no choices matters from previous games and the dialogues on some scenes that they cant see the good qualities of this game (Not saying this is not important i agree on those). If Bioware is still around after Mass Effect and are still trying to do better, with all the critics on veilguard they are gonna try to use those to make it better. They proved that they listened to some comments from the previous game so im hoping that they'll do the same for the next one. I have some hopes but I guess we'll see with Mass Effect wich direction they are gonna take. 🖐
They need to reimplement Keep. Veilguard is good game, but it suffered greatly whenever Keep was showing off. Nobody likes cameo when character in question acts like they have amnesia. And that's how I have felt towards Morrigan, Varric and Isabela. And it's just lost potential. Imagine if they let you choose who was left in the Fade, and if you left Hawke by end when Varric is revealed to be gone, he just heads out and you can see Hawke in background. It would be touching reunion of two friends finally. Veilguard theme was supposed to be 'regret' but neither Varric, nor Isabela, nor Morrigan are allowed to contribute to this theme to flesh it out, because Keep is not present. And endangering if not presumably killing Hawke would be the GREATEST regret Varric could ever have.
@@cracmar03I agree there was so many good opportunities missed in this game...Even before the game got out the moment i learned that they would only keep 3 choices already made me ranked the game lesser than the other ones 😕 I immedietly thought it would feel more empty and I was sadly right...
Agreed! and hopefully they will have more time to actually cook properly. We waited 10 years for Veilguard but it didn't take them 10 years to make. What I mean by this is that most of those 10 years were spent making the live service game they originally had (thank the maker for the change). I read somewhere that the game we have now only had 3 years to make. So with a world like Dragon Age where there were SO many different decisions to make as well as lore to write, actors to hire, dialogue to write, and animate the many different potentials of people's world states....that definitely would take a lot longer than 3 years to do. Now that they have a clear idea of where they want the game's direction to be in (I hope), I have high hopes for the next game IF they are still standing after the next mass effect. (again I hope with every fiber of my being that they will be. The story is not done yet)
Glad to see someone talking about this. Found this room first playthrough without really looking thinking the room would be for some quest later. 2nd playthrough find it again and realized nothing ever brought me here so I really looked and lost my mind when I saw the wall connections
I also feel like this is the perfect time to make up for the lack of keep in this one, that they are saving its return use for a big connected game with the way the executors are presented with each game and then once again this board also hints the whole connection. Just would make a lot of sense.
@npc6254do you think a new company would carry on the old stories or they would time skip to a point of its a another world that our choices dont matter anymore. We can only have headcannons now. Dragon age 4 would be a great game if the writers werent replaced. They killed the hopes of this fandom and we lost all chance of seeing our protagonists stories
I don't think that symbol is a crow, it looks like a bow an arrow, which I think represents Leliana. The feather may actually represent Morrigan instead 🤔
I really didn't know how to feel about Bioware hinting at a 5th game so quickly but I'm starting to get excited when I hear you and others talk and theorize about it. I would love it if our heroes returned in this next game and we had to work up to build alliances with them
Hopefully bioware finally learns what MOST of the fans actually want from dragon age for the 5th game Immersive dialogue, better writing, player choice and roleplay (cause ya know rpg stands for roleplaying game after all) Basically what made bioware great in the first place, and hopefully after bulder's gate they will realise many people still enjoy a single player roleplaying experience
As much as I would love to see that final battle, I would be happy at this point for them to update the Dragon Age Keep site or add a storybook option (like the one ME3 got) to input your previous games' decisions into Veilguard. There are spots in the game that it feels like they intended to have previous game choices pop up but ended up removing. I wonder if they'll continue the story of Thedas by starting a new Age and if they do what would it be called.
Yay! A Jackdaw tinfoil hat theory. I”m looking forward to the next game. I have zero expectations about what it will look like but there continues to be something I enjoy about every game in the franchise. If I could state preferences, I would like them to return to more mature themes and a darker tone. Honestly, though, I had assumed the lone figure off to the side was Rook.
Hopefully the Dragon Age team has read the room on not deviating from what Dragon Age is. Tevinter wasn't what we expected but likely that is due to the factional fight between the Shadow Dragons and the Venatori representing a Tevinter caught in a tug of war between it's old self and it's evolving self, probably why there were no brothels.
That fan service on a DA5 would be amazing. I think that something they would be really cool is, if the person that built that wall was the only one aware of the secret cult thus knowing exactly the person he/she will need to stop their plans (the da5 hero).
I always pictured the core story ending not long before the end of the Dragon Age. And we are fast approaching the end of said age. Then the spin offs would be something else. Titles named after the age in which the game takes place.
@@FearlessXful Regardless of how you feel about DA, the numbers that are known are highly disappointing for a triple a game. Just using the numbers that are known it has unfortunately made a massive loss.
After Veilguard there is really only one thing that remains unexplained: The Origin of the Humans. Everything else was explained and cleared up, we know where elves came from, we know how dwarves were created and even the Qunari. But we still dont know how and when humans came into existance. And how the Maker and Andraste were involved in this. I believe the next game will focus on that and I would love it as a big fan of the Andrastian Chantry. IF another Dragon Age game even gets made after the financial disaster of Veilguard...
The fact that whoever made this board has already connected the new protagonist to Rook is intriguing. Has our Rook already influenced the next protagonist in some way? Hmm 🤔
My theory is that because the new protag's paper is outside the board, they will be from outside Thedas, possibly an Executor? That would be interesting if we play as the "villain" in DA5. Also, the only thread connecting to the new protag is Rook.
I think the feather connecting Origins and DA2 is Anders, as all other images represent a character, and Anders is the character that is in both games. And the bow is absolutely better representing Leliana, as she is an archer.
If anders was alive then avelline protected him which was a war table mission in inquisition I think. I really want anders to be alive. Hell they didnt even use Merrill fenris etc when Solas literally uses eluvians and Merrill has one and fenris has some wicked fade powers that makes him transparent and his hatred for mages too should play a part. You know who could have been a mage killer. Fkin fenris from dragon age 2
@@dranzerjetli5126 Dear God, yes. Instead of Bellara, they should've brought back Merrill to be the veil jumper, tinkerer of Eluvian. Fenris to be the mage killer. Zevran to lead the Crows. Sten instead of Taash.
I found this board in my first play through and I KNEW and have been WAITING for Jackdaw to make a Tin-Foil video on it! You don’t disappoint, Jackdaw!
I would actually LOVE to play Rook again, dont feel like their story was anywhere near complete! We didnt even get the usual spiel about what the characters are up to after. I want more romance with Lucanis, want it to build like Liara in Mass Effect. BUT if you said in your solas video that SPOILERS Rook can be locked in the fade SPOILERS. Then i doubt theyll do that cause potentially we wont see them again :(
I agree with you - the lack of a future epilogue or discussion alongside the "Veilguard will remain vigilant" gave me vibes that Rook would be returning as a player character again. I didn't entirely love DAtV but I would really like a smaller scale DLC for example, where Rook and the Veilguard investigate the executor threat and it could lead into a fifth installment of the franchise. That way we could build on some of the romances/ character relationships and give Rook a proper send off.
That last silhouette maybe still Rook but as story teller replacing Varric. Rook already done his job, no more Solas. But with all his knowledge about everything in DA:V, he probably become the next Morrigan.
Nah im good. We are already 20 years after Origins I don't need a 5-10 years later time skip again. If they want to redeem this game they need to make one where we see what happened in Ferelden with the use of the Keep
I think the symbol you said was a crow is a bow to symbol Leliana. She’s in origins. Then 2. And advisor in Inquisition. The thread stops at inquisition and Leliana wasn’t in Veilguard.
I wouldn't be supprised if there is some sort of secret order that has been watching events and putting them together, maybe because they know about the Executors or not and they are trying to prepare for their return.
I think this is a board of someone theorycrafting who this Rook person is, rather. I think the "crow" is in fact a "bow+bird for Leliana and that the Dagger isn't really Rook but the Veilguard. And that the feather is in fact Morrigan who turns into a crow.
Sola's dagger connected harding back tothe titans... maybe it did the same for Varric. Dwarf don't die the go back to the stone.It's still to have him in a different form.
What if Rook had actually been "influenced" by the Executors/the figures that show up in the secret ending? After all Rook achieved their goal beating the last 3 elven gods. And the figure on the paper is part of the Executors who pulled the strings + Rook is the only MC who's heard them too
I like this theory a lot. If we do get a 5th game, i would like to see hawkes armour and the inquisition dragon armour make a return and solas (trespasser) armour too.
The maker is having a big laugh right now. The silly humans got it all wrong so the next enemy is the Maker im joking but it sure would be a spanner in the works
(Really long post warning) So I only hope that it won't go through development hell like Veilguard did. I would love an Avengers Endgame style game that's just pure fanservice in the best way possible. But I would like to breakdown who we would be looking at. And this is under the assumption that the executors and the devouring storm are one and the same, and that if the Forgotten Evanuris play a role it would be a minor one at best. And this would also be under the assumption that "X" character reached a fitting thematic end (assuming they died off. Origins Heroes: Hero of Ferelden: Assuming they went on their calling that means their quest failed and they didn't find a cure for the calling in the other continents. However if they *did* find a cure for the calling, be it a combinations of their findings and Fionna's cure for her Joining. They would probably be one of the least likely to appear. Alistair: We don't really know his fate, assuming he took the throne and Denerim fell during the final blight, we could probably say that Inqy was able to get him to Skyhold safely (but we don't know if Skyhold held up during the final push, we know that they were struggling) Wynn: Passed away some time during DA2 so no chance. Ogerin: Not likely, and that's assuming he survived Amaranthine, the breach AND the final blight. Leliana: We know she's a protected NPC and even when she dies she comes back (still waiting for them to reveal she's Andraste reincarnated) so her appearance is very likely (also she's a fan favorite), but her being a potential candidate for Divine Victoria makes it a little more complicated. Shale: Not likely due to her basically being Wynn's headstone. Zevran: He'll be back, he's a slippery one and it would be cool to see him be granted a pardon by Lucanis. Sten: He'll be back, he's the Arishok and pretty much the only leader of the Qun left. The devouring storm and the executors being something that the Qun fears, and the loss of the Antaam basically just leaves the Ben Hassrath to defend Par Vollen so it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility for Sten to ask for help. Morrigan: She'll be back. She's the new Flemeth, she won't be written out until the character has a successor. Awakening Heroes: Anders and Justice: They ded. Nathaniel, Sigrun and Velanna: I would like to see any of the remaining three come back but all three would be ideal, it would be great but like with HoF it's possible that they had already gone on their Calling, (again assuming they weren't cured by their commander) DA2 Heroes: Hawke: Even assuming Hawke was left in the fade, it's entirely possible that Hawke was able to kill the Nightmare or escape it. Flemeth's prophecy seemed to point to that moment and Hawke is a beloved and clever character, they've gotten out of the fade before, they can do it again. Twins: Assuming the surviving Hawke twin goes through the Joining then it's possible. Sebastian: 100% would return if he survived the final blight. Isabela: 100% returning if the Lords have a significant role in the future. Aveline: if she survived the final blight I can see her returning. Fenris: His story isn't done, I could actually see him joining the Shadow Dragons (Kinda weird he didn't). Kinda hoping for a Veilguard DLC that takes us to Seheron to meet him. Merril: Maybe? She seemed dedicated to Dalish culture and assuming she was one of the elves that vanished into the forest post trespasser she would likely be keeper to a new clan, but if she stayed in Kirkwall then I think her return is about as likely as Aveline and Sebastian. Tallis: Our favorite Elf Ben Hassrath agent. This one is purely based on weather or not BioWare can get Felica Day to reprise the role. Inquisition Heroes: Inquisitor: This will depend on if Inquisitor is a female Lavellan and romanced Solas. If so, no chance. but if not fairly likely. Cassandra: if there's cause for the seekers to join the fray, alternatively if she's Divine Victoria then she'll likely be referenced to. Blackwall: If he assumed command of the Orlesian Wardens during the final blight it's possible, but hard to say. Cole: Some dialogues seem to point to Cole becoming human as the canon choice, especially given the fact that everyone remembers him, so there's a chance. Assuming Skyhold held up. Iron Bull: Another one that's basically determined on weather or not BioWare can/will work with the actor again. Solas: Not a chance. Dorian: Fairly likely. Vivienne: Maker I hope not. Sera: The Friends of Red Jenny for sure survived the final blight (they're too slippery to not), Sera herself however, not sure if she'd want to after living through the breach and the final blight. Cullen: No, keep him retired and happy. Say he fought in the final blight and survived, but don't bring him back (also don't give Greg Ellis work) Josephine: Kind of a missed opportunity for her to not appear in Veilguard but I'd like to see the last advisor to the inquisition return. Veilguard Heroes: Rook: 100% is returning, like how Hawke returned for the Inquisitor and the Inquisitor returned for them. (Also assuming they don't retire with Harding in a cottage in Ferelden) Davrin: Honestly it feels like the more fitting canon choice is for him to provide the opening for Lucanis to get the final blow on Gihl. It's justice for Weisshaupt, it's justice for Isseya's advanced blight, it's fitting that he dies. Wish there was a way neither died but what can you do BioWare does as they do? Belarra: I'd say she would return so long as Rook calls for her. Harding: I romanced her and for my first world state, she retires with Rook in a cottage in Ferelden. But I won't complain if she returns or succeeds Varric as the narrator. Harding dying to provide the opening for Lucanis makes no sense in my mind, what stake does she have in that, it wouldn't bring closure to her character as it does for Davrin. Lucanis: Of course the first talon will return. Neve: She'll be back she's Lucanis' woman and she's the best person to investigate the executors. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if she recruits the next Hero on behalf of Rook. Emmerich: Pee-Paw Lich will return if the Mourn Watch has a stake in it or if Rook calls for him. Taash: Will return if Isabela does imo. Sorry for the long post but I just finished the game and I'm super excited to have conversations about it. :)
Dragon Age 5? I'm still waiting for Dragon Age 4 as teased in Dragon Age Inquisition, which of course will never happen. And I cannot recognize Veilguard as that sequel, because I loved the games to much to see them end with a lore-breaking, ultra-pandering, demented wet fart of a game.
I would love if for the next game we had a new hero being recruited by Rook to go fight the Executors and the Devouring Storm on the other side of the oceans before they reach Thedas, I hope we have many companions with some of them being old ones returning to help the new Hero like The Iron Bull for example, I want more specializations for class, it would be cool to have a pet that goes with us without counting as a companion (kinda like Davrin has Assan) and that pet can be personalized too like different species and attacks, romance and friendships being more important and with more impact on the story and introduce a way for the players to really create a unique personality to their characters that impacts not only the dialogue options but also actions
Hi, just saw your video and it's quite interesting. You said Morrigan's story is over but I think we will see her again because I think she is an Executor. Her staff during credit scenes gives it away. I think all companion's story arcs are connected to Solas especially the Crows and Mournwatch. Emmrich's accessories are similar to Morrigan's. My question is, what did Solas sacrificed to get Lavellan back, and the answer seems to lead to the Staff of the Void. Watch the redemption ending closely, how he held the lyrium dagger, who received it at the end, and who was holding Mythal's statue (i think it's empty). The latter connects to the Staff of the Void imo. Sorry for the long post. I'll keep an eye on your channel for more interesting posts. Have a great day.
@dranzerjetli5126 I am not surprised not to see Iron Bull because if you chose to save his team, he probably stayed in Orlais, which would give him no reason to show up in veilgaurd because none of the places we go to in veilgaurd are anywhere near Orlais. Also if you chose to have your origin character marry Allister who is king of fereldan then it makes no sense to see either of them as for the architect we don't see more of him because he is either dead because he was of no use to the main antagonists in veilgaurd or he was working on their side so it makes no sense for us to see him in veilgaurd.
Soo I love this franchise and I am not sure if people realize this but there is still one character that we did meet in Inquisition that people probably forgot but there is still Morrigan and the Hero of Fereldan's Child that was conceived and has an Arch Demon's Soul/ Essence also known as the 5th elven god now inside of him just a food for thought But i think that would be awesome to see since he was already a teenager in Inquisition and its been years after the events of the Inquisition and you meeting the wee Lad would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this and yes I also know that you cant implement those events but those might be the default ones for the veilguard setting and story thank you soo much for this just finnished the game and still love the series and wanting more haha!
Dragon Age 5 due out in 2035. I would love to have the main characters back for some kind of showdown, but Veilguard tied up so much. The tease at the end was like a nothing sandwich.
The are like 3 choices in DAV plus who survives the final battle I think would be easier to implement. They should bring back at least the mayor decision of past games (kinda like the awful minigame you play if you not import a old save in mass effect. Theres not every choice but enough to impact the game)
Maybe its only solas, someone find out that one person alone is responsible for all things that happened in these ages. So the picture outside is solas. He is the red thread behind them all. And because the Inquisitor and Rook are still alive the're two red threads. Who knows exactly😅 Sry for my english
Of course, there will be a Dragon Age 5! However, I do think we will be waiting for a long time for it...maybe close to the decade we waited for Veilguard, if not more. I do think more people will embrace Veilguard over time, though, so the long wait between games will probably be for the franchise's ultimate benefit.
I haven't finished DATV yet, but you you are saying there is a chance for another game...even though I am extremely dissapointed with the 'hard' reset they give in the Veilguard where lore and past history are sort of...flattened and turned upside down imo....we'll see. I have yet to see if I am going to be surprised with the ending in some way.
@@graynor67 was about to say the same thing, do these people have brain defects causing all this whinging. Like, can they comprehend the information given to them and see how it lines up with the old games. Cause there are a lot of smaller references to what happened, just because there is not a blazing banner for activities that happened over a decade ago on the other side of a continent does not mean they are gone.
@@AmbigousInfluencebrain defects, just because you don't agree? Seems a little extreme to me. People are allowed to have opinions that aren't yours and still be functioning intelligent people.
It would be cool if that was the Hero of Ferelden's board and they been watching the shadows figures. A return of them maybe as a mentor figure would be dope.
Unfortunately some people, like myself, have a dead HoF. Even Bioware's default canon for DAI has the Warden dead. I seriously doubt we'll see the HoF again, both for that and lots of other reasons.
@robertthornton7900 they do care, just a lot of the past writers of former DA games and novels are gone. So they didn't know what they wanted to do with those past characters. That's why it isn't so connected like originally intended sadly.
The thing is, could that next enemy has something to do with the maker? I know the game blowed the whole story of the maker and golden city to shreds but Andraste was a real character with impacts on origins at least. I feel there isn't any closure about the story of Andraste and the maker yet to be honest. Another thing was the hint of the Qunari tablet about the fire breathing Quanaris being a weapon against the threat across the sea. May be it has something to do with that too.
@@FearlessXful 1. Even if you used the highest estimate for DAV sales that number isn't high enough for a game with a dev cycle that long. Even if EA took every cent from every copy sold one million copies sold isn't even half of their reported production budget. 2. That wasn't a whine, that was a statement. Don't take the comment section too personally.
@@FearlessXfulso all the games media now saying how bad Veilgaurd is and only selling maybe a million copies when they need to sell 4-6 million just to break even is good? Facts don't care how you feel about the game, it is a flop and no one is playing it, no one is finishing it, and lots of people are refunding it or trading it in. Don't be mad because you're wrong.
You know... say what you will, but Dragon Age II did it right. It went down with the global importance while retaining its epicness. The Executives are a BAD idea. Always putting someone higher above the last antagonist cheapens the previous experiences...
Great breakdown, but I’m just not excited about Dragon Age anymore. While I was entertained by DAV, it also left me with an empty feeling. I don’t think BioWare is capable of writing compelling characters and stories like they used to. Case in point: I felt very little emotional connection to any of the companions in DAV, except for Harding-and she was introduced in a previous game. Given the studio’s apparent rush to move on to the new Mass Effect game and their seeming distance from Dragon Age, I highly doubt we’ll ever get a fifth game. Even if we do, I’m not sure I’d want to play it.
I doubt they include many legacy characters. Mayne Rook. And I hope they integrate some decisions of the past games. No need for the DAI keep to retur just the mayor ones. Who is the white divine? Kieran exist? That sort of thing
Keep in general should return, maybe not as webpage but offline app that is readable by games. Keep was genius tool helping to narrow down and direct how game should play to respect choices. Game should just read pieces of Keep that will come to play in it.
So much lore was just abandoned. It felt like the writing team played maybe twenty hours of Inquisition and decided they had done enough homework. I’m not sure if I even want another game in this empty new Thedas.
What was abandoned? I felt we got massive lore drops in this game. Also the writing team for DAV are all Dragon Age veterans except 1, Davrin’s writer, who wrote for Mass Effect. The art book apparently shows a lot of interesting ideas that seemed to have been cut but my guess is with all the changes of what this game was supposed to be, they weren’t given time or resources to flesh it out fully. EA always chases trends which is why we got Anthem & this was supposed to also be a live service game. I feel like I can tell Dark Souls inspired DAV a little with the environments also. Since BG3 did well, maybe they will be ok with that style in the next one.
@@Allaiya.We won't get a BG3 style game from bioware, they have never done turn based, outside of one Sonic jrpg for the game boy advance (yes, really this happened). The original BG games were real time with pause, same as Origins, and that was far more action oriented than previous dnd adaptations. BioWare only continued to get more action orienented with Jade Empire and Mass Effect, it is the style the studio prefers. People need to get that.
@@AmbigousInfluence I'm not talking about the gameplay style but the darker tone & more rpg aspects of BG3. I haven't played that game, I am just going off what I have heard from people. I prefer DAV combat anyway.
@@Allaiya. dragon age 2 sold, quite well in fact. more than enough to be a big success. DAV requires 5-6 million sales just ot break even, and it'll be lucky if it sells 1.5 million total sales over the next 10 years.
@@Allaiya. and? if it sold way more than it's budget then it's a success even if not as big as origins was. but to use that comparison iquisition sold 12 million copies, Bioware's best selling title ever. Veilguard has in absolute best case scenario, ignoring every single refund and counting every shipped game that wasnt actually sold by the stores that bought them, about a million. meaning 11 million people didnt buy the sequel to inquisition and probably isnt going to.
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I think a more important thing to note is that the mystery person who may be the next protagonist is OFF the board which says to me this person will be from outside of thedas and it looks like their only connection will be Rook instead of any of the factions and figures who connect the past games.
The more interesting implication is us finding the board during the game implies this person is already connected to Rook somehow.
This game sucks ass so no one cares except who like this shit. Its a slap on the face of all the previous dragon age fans even the ones who like inquisition
@@dranzerjetli5126clearly you care a lot if you're here hating 🤷🏻♂️
@dranzerjetli5126 I loved the game and am here to engage for that very reason. Why are you here if you hated it so much? Go get some fresh air cry-baby
I think what's exceptionally interesting about this is how the entirety of Thedas was seen as a "chess board," given how each of the heroes of Dragon Age has been stylized and how the Executors portray themselves.
The Warden can be seen as a Knight piece, and knights have a respectable range of movement. The Hero Of Ferelden's exploits all take place within Ferelden, so while they cover a good amount of territory, it's primarily within that region.
Hawke can be seen as a Pawn piece climbing their way into the ranks of a more powerful piece. They start out with nothing, and the territory they cover is within Kirkwall and Sundermount, which is considerably a smaller region than what the Warden had. However, once they've gotten their fame and fortune, they have a more dominant influence and are sought after (the Inquisition was looking for Hawke before they considered the Inquisitor).
The Inquisitor can be seen as the Bishop, not just due to their religious importance, but also due to where and how they traverse. A bishop can only be on white or black squares, but they have a wider range of movement, similar to how the Inquisitor can go between Orlais and Ferelden. However, they mostly have their influence primarily in the South.
Rook is obviously the Rook piece, but they have an even greater range of movement compared to any of the other pieces. They're not restricted to one color and can move across either square in cardinal directions. This is relative to how Rook can go to any of the regions in the game like the Necropolis, Minrathous, Arlathan Forest, and so on wherever the Crossroads can take them.
All of this is to say the Executors have been influencing the events in Thedas in a way that a chess player would, and finally, they are about to make their big move. They're even dressed in white, and in Chess, white always moves first.
However, whoever the next hero of Dragon Age is going to be, they would likely have to be someone who thinks outside the board and is unaffected by the rules and machinations of the Executors, as evidenced in the conspiracy board. While the four heroes of Dragon Age are all within the confines of the board, the fifth hero is not, likely giving us a clue that whoever the next hero is must be ready to beat the Executor's plan on a different playing field.
@@ZeroReaper42this is an amazing analysis; I would not have picked up this idea myself because I know nothing about how to play chess
That is clearly a bow symbolising Leliana, who is connected to both the Hero of Ferelden as well as the Inquisitor
And the reason it looks like a bird is bcs what was Leliana's nickname? Mockingbird
@@angelicaeagles9627 Sister Nightingale, many titles and most of them referring to a bird.
Yeah, I'm also very sure about that as well!
I was thinking the same thing, but the purple thread continues to be conected with Rook as well which made me question that theory.
@@lisdraconis2212that's assuming the dagger represents Rook and not Solas. I also came here to say the bow on top was Leliana. Also the next age would not be named by Morrigan, it's named by the Divine, and Leliana was a candidate for Divine in Inquisition
The only thing I hope for is that I don't have to wait another decade for the next game 😭😅😂
Same haha
Holly shit right! They can just take the bones of this game and not change much. Keep the same gameplay, same combat, maybe new specializations. Do full party combat gameplay and hire better writers and make a better story with more decisions.
I wouldn't bet on it cause Bioware as a whole has now switched over to focus on the next mass effect so it should be a few years after ME comes out that we even get hints of DA5
It took them 10 years because they kept having to ditch their scripts. They made 6 scripts the 6th one being the game.
@ was it really 6 scripts? Where did you hear that at?
New Hero: “I’m Commander Shepherd, & this is my favourite store in Thedas….” 🤣👌🏼🇦🇺
It's only been about 20 years since Origins so the HOF and Alistair still have 10 years before their Calling. Last we heard in Inquisition the HOF was looking into a way to stop the Calling. And we don't know how the Calling will work now since it's obvious it was the Elven Gods calling through their Archdemons. If there is another 10 year time skip I fully expect the Warden to return just in time
Problem being some people's Wardens are dead, including the one in previous default worldstates. I seriously doubt we'll be seeing the HoF again since theres just so much variety its really hard to account for it all and people would absolutely RIOT if it was done wrong. People have already been dissatisfied with Hawke and Inky, and those characters are waaayy more linear.
We also STILL don't know where TF The Architect went, if anyone could help stop the calling, especially since all the Archdemons are gone now, I would bet on The Architect. Doubly so because he was likely a Magister like Corypheus and could respawn in a new body even if the HoF killed him.
The moment Solas Killed Varric, I Sassed the Dread Wolf into the Fade
@@ivanhunter6492 He's well past his time, this world belongs to the people of this time. Besides he never liked this version of Thedas or the world anyways.
What, you didn't kill him?
@@Rhysdux I'm guessing you wanted to scramble the egg, not everyone will. Kai Leng like Royce (Simon Randall) I'd gladly kill a thousand fold, for me killing Solas is like killing Anakin Skywalker, sheeps in wolves clothing are less satisfying to end.
@@anderporascu5026bruh varric was the heart of dragon age. Killing him early is a slap to the face of every person who was a fan of the previous games.
@@dranzerjetli5126 He became the heart after Origins but Bianca was destroyed which killed Varric and his ability to bring life to a lot of the game.
So that room IS worth looking at. I spent like 2mins looking think “I’m sure there’s something here but i have a quest to deal with” 😂
Ever since finishing my first playthrough I have been kind of depressed and feeling empty without anything to look forward to for now (after 10 years of waiting, which had become part of my personality tbh haha), but HELL YES, you don't disappoint. Thank you for some Dragon Age 5 clowning, nature is healing and I am me again !
Same, it's such a weird and empty feeling. I think I'll need another few years for it to heal 😅
Well said. This really captures my mood right now.
go play origins and that empty feeling goes away cause your playing a game that actually cares about its world.
We're facing The Executors and The Devouring Storm next, if Bioware survives long enough to make another DragonnAge game.
The game probably didnt sell well enough and rightfully so. Its not dragon age its just a bunch of leftists morons who decided to shit on the previous games and the characters.
Yap I agree, first person I see connecting the Devouring Storm with the Executors and it was the first thing I thought when I saw the post credits scene, they are the same or connected somehow
Solas killing Varric is why i made him a Permanente Fixture to the Veil
If Solas' story is inspired by Richard the 3rd, it is a fitting end as Henry the 8th became Richard the 3rd's downfall before the play ended. Either way, Solas' story ends here and I daresay Mythal's has only begun. Thedas is her realm and she'll fight to the death for it.
As the Inquisitor I could go redemption but as Rook, there is no way and I think it makes Rook a better character to not go for the good one.
@@tamarak.8800yup😅 most of the game I was thinking about redeeming Solas, but after learning what he did to Varric I stabbed him
@@anderporascu5026 I am more creeped out by Titans. Harding was downright creepy in Veilguard. And fate of Valta was also creepy. I half expect Renn to be lyrium-infused zombie ...
@@tamarak.8800 dunno, my Rook like exchanging jabs with ... let me look at terminology by Davrin - ah yes there it is - "Baldy". I did redeem Solas. I owe that to Inquisitor and well Solas did helped us with both dalish slaves and how to kill Evanuris. It's just that he constantly tells half-truths and half-lies.
What I want to know is: why are there TWO red threads connecting all previous games together, leading to the final image? Why not one single red thread? Why are there TWO? WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN? 🤔 oh, we tinfoilin'! Can't wait to spend the next however many years clowning and being insufferable about DA5. LET'S GOOOOOOO
Okay so here’s my thoughts on why there are two:
They say something in the secret ending that makes me think they’re “reshaping” history. So what if the second string is how the original first timeline (that we haven’t seen) went?
I feel like the time magic quest that happened with Dorian in inquisition has to be related to this somehow. 😅
@gabbygirl9600 hmm interesting... alternate timelines/alternate events following the same path... this requires greater unpicking
They are all caused by the previous, Ferelden blight directly casused Kirkwall which caused Inquisition which caused Veilguard which causes whatever the hell which if we take the secret cutscene into the account planned the betrayal at the start of the ferelden blight which caused everything after.
@GRIMHOOD99 oh I know why they're all connected, I just want to know why there are TWO strings connecting each one. Why not one string, yknow? 👀
Hero plus romance maybe
Maybe just maybe the new hero is a executor.
Imagine our new hero is the enemy of your former 4 heroes. Oooh the drama
Qunari focused dragon age in par vollen or bust
I truly just interpreted this as a cheeky nod to the player-outside the board but the through line through all four of the games (thus the double chord that only connects through the four symbols for the four games). I obviously could be wrong, but that is just what I thought as I ran through there. 😊
yeah i did too! i feel like the devs are just throwing us a little easter egg knowing someone is gonna go wild about it lol
I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw that wall
Same
I saw it but I never noticed the reference to origins or DA2. I did see the Inquisition symbol but I just thought it was just an Easter egg.
I think if EA can let Bioware cook for the next one after seeing the success of BG3 they can go all the way for the next one, we saw in the art book that they had some fantastic ideas. Veilguard had some bad things but also good ones where we can see that bioware learned from the previous game but everybody is so stuck on the no choices matters from previous games and the dialogues on some scenes that they cant see the good qualities of this game (Not saying this is not important i agree on those). If Bioware is still around after Mass Effect and are still trying to do better, with all the critics on veilguard they are gonna try to use those to make it better. They proved that they listened to some comments from the previous game so im hoping that they'll do the same for the next one.
I have some hopes but I guess we'll see with Mass Effect wich direction they are gonna take. 🖐
They need to reimplement Keep. Veilguard is good game, but it suffered greatly whenever Keep was showing off. Nobody likes cameo when character in question acts like they have amnesia. And that's how I have felt towards Morrigan, Varric and Isabela. And it's just lost potential. Imagine if they let you choose who was left in the Fade, and if you left Hawke by end when Varric is revealed to be gone, he just heads out and you can see Hawke in background. It would be touching reunion of two friends finally. Veilguard theme was supposed to be 'regret' but neither Varric, nor Isabela, nor Morrigan are allowed to contribute to this theme to flesh it out, because Keep is not present. And endangering if not presumably killing Hawke would be the GREATEST regret Varric could ever have.
@@cracmar03I agree there was so many good opportunities missed in this game...Even before the game got out the moment i learned that they would only keep 3 choices already made me ranked the game lesser than the other ones 😕 I immedietly thought it would feel more empty and I was sadly right...
I agree. I really think EA having oversight really kept the creatitivity to a minimum. The art books show how much potential the game had
how are people supposed to overlock the lore butchering...it messes up the whole series beyond repair...
Agreed! and hopefully they will have more time to actually cook properly. We waited 10 years for Veilguard but it didn't take them 10 years to make. What I mean by this is that most of those 10 years were spent making the live service game they originally had (thank the maker for the change). I read somewhere that the game we have now only had 3 years to make. So with a world like Dragon Age where there were SO many different decisions to make as well as lore to write, actors to hire, dialogue to write, and animate the many different potentials of people's world states....that definitely would take a lot longer than 3 years to do. Now that they have a clear idea of where they want the game's direction to be in (I hope), I have high hopes for the next game IF they are still standing after the next mass effect. (again I hope with every fiber of my being that they will be. The story is not done yet)
Honestly thought this was the apartment Neve mentioned having. It's hidden along her first quest. I assumed it was cut content.
Glad to see someone talking about this. Found this room first playthrough without really looking thinking the room would be for some quest later. 2nd playthrough find it again and realized nothing ever brought me here so I really looked and lost my mind when I saw the wall connections
I also feel like this is the perfect time to make up for the lack of keep in this one, that they are saving its return use for a big connected game with the way the executors are presented with each game and then once again this board also hints the whole connection. Just would make a lot of sense.
@npc6254do you think a new company would carry on the old stories or they would time skip to a point of its a another world that our choices dont matter anymore. We can only have headcannons now. Dragon age 4 would be a great game if the writers werent replaced. They killed the hopes of this fandom and we lost all chance of seeing our protagonists stories
The instant I saw the conspiracy board, I was excited for you to post
Yet another outstanding video Jack, I looked at this board for a while in-game. Absolutely loving what you've told us.
I don't think that symbol is a crow, it looks like a bow an arrow, which I think represents Leliana. The feather may actually represent Morrigan instead 🤔
I really didn't know how to feel about Bioware hinting at a 5th game so quickly but I'm starting to get excited when I hear you and others talk and theorize about it.
I would love it if our heroes returned in this next game and we had to work up to build alliances with them
Hopefully bioware finally learns what MOST of the fans actually want from dragon age for the 5th game
Immersive dialogue, better writing, player choice and roleplay (cause ya know rpg stands for roleplaying game after all)
Basically what made bioware great in the first place, and hopefully after bulder's gate they will realise many people still enjoy a single player roleplaying experience
As much as I would love to see that final battle, I would be happy at this point for them to update the Dragon Age Keep site or add a storybook option (like the one ME3 got) to input your previous games' decisions into Veilguard. There are spots in the game that it feels like they intended to have previous game choices pop up but ended up removing. I wonder if they'll continue the story of Thedas by starting a new Age and if they do what would it be called.
Yay! A Jackdaw tinfoil hat theory. I”m looking forward to the next game. I have zero expectations about what it will look like but there continues to be something I enjoy about every game in the franchise. If I could state preferences, I would like them to return to more mature themes and a darker tone.
Honestly, though, I had assumed the lone figure off to the side was Rook.
Hopefully the Dragon Age team has read the room on not deviating from what Dragon Age is. Tevinter wasn't what we expected but likely that is due to the factional fight between the Shadow Dragons and the Venatori representing a Tevinter caught in a tug of war between it's old self and it's evolving self, probably why there were no brothels.
That fan service on a DA5 would be amazing. I think that something they would be really cool is, if the person that built that wall was the only one aware of the secret cult thus knowing exactly the person he/she will need to stop their plans (the da5 hero).
You don't disappoint 😂
I've been waiting for this!
I always pictured the core story ending not long before the end of the Dragon Age. And we are fast approaching the end of said age. Then the spin offs would be something else. Titles named after the age in which the game takes place.
I was REALLY hoping you'd find this room. 🎉
12:08 - 12:27 That is exactly what should've happened in The Veilguard. But BioWare said, "Nah. We're not allowing you to import your world.".
Very wishful thinking that there will ever be a Dragon Age 5
You’re an idiot
DA Veilguard has been received well and sold decently enough. There will be a DA 5.
@@FearlessXful Citation needed
@@FearlessXful Regardless of how you feel about DA, the numbers that are known are highly disappointing for a triple a game. Just using the numbers that are known it has unfortunately made a massive loss.
@siliarba not at all. It is all in your head. Go back to playing CoD and FIFA casual.
After Veilguard there is really only one thing that remains unexplained: The Origin of the Humans. Everything else was explained and cleared up, we know where elves came from, we know how dwarves were created and even the Qunari. But we still dont know how and when humans came into existance. And how the Maker and Andraste were involved in this. I believe the next game will focus on that and I would love it as a big fan of the Andrastian Chantry.
IF another Dragon Age game even gets made after the financial disaster of Veilguard...
The fact that whoever made this board has already connected the new protagonist to Rook is intriguing. Has our Rook already influenced the next protagonist in some way? Hmm 🤔
Rook does not necessarily survive the events of Veilguard if you get the bad ending
It’s good to hear from you again.
My theory is that because the new protag's paper is outside the board, they will be from outside Thedas, possibly an Executor? That would be interesting if we play as the "villain" in DA5. Also, the only thread connecting to the new protag is Rook.
The feather is Morrigan and the bow is leiliana if you look at their connections it makes sense
Dragon Age 5: Tactics - You control a party of 8 adventurers.....
Doesn't the Divine of the Chantry name the ages? Why would Morrigan be able to do it?
Because lore doesn't matter to the new BioWare and previous games have now been retconned or "rebooted".
I think the feather connecting Origins and DA2 is Anders, as all other images represent a character, and Anders is the character that is in both games. And the bow is absolutely better representing Leliana, as she is an archer.
If anders was alive then avelline protected him which was a war table mission in inquisition I think.
I really want anders to be alive. Hell they didnt even use Merrill fenris etc when Solas literally uses eluvians and Merrill has one and fenris has some wicked fade powers that makes him transparent and his hatred for mages too should play a part.
You know who could have been a mage killer. Fkin fenris from dragon age 2
@@dranzerjetli5126 Dear God, yes. Instead of Bellara, they should've brought back Merrill to be the veil jumper, tinkerer of Eluvian. Fenris to be the mage killer. Zevran to lead the Crows. Sten instead of Taash.
I found this board in my first play through and I KNEW and have been WAITING for Jackdaw to make a Tin-Foil video on it! You don’t disappoint, Jackdaw!
I would actually LOVE to play Rook again, dont feel like their story was anywhere near complete! We didnt even get the usual spiel about what the characters are up to after. I want more romance with Lucanis, want it to build like Liara in Mass Effect. BUT if you said in your solas video that SPOILERS Rook can be locked in the fade SPOILERS. Then i doubt theyll do that cause potentially we wont see them again :(
I agree with you - the lack of a future epilogue or discussion alongside the "Veilguard will remain vigilant" gave me vibes that Rook would be returning as a player character again. I didn't entirely love DAtV but I would really like a smaller scale DLC for example, where Rook and the Veilguard investigate the executor threat and it could lead into a fifth installment of the franchise. That way we could build on some of the romances/ character relationships and give Rook a proper send off.
That last silhouette maybe still Rook but as story teller replacing Varric. Rook already done his job, no more Solas. But with all his knowledge about everything in DA:V, he probably become the next Morrigan.
Nah im good. We are already 20 years after Origins I don't need a 5-10 years later time skip again. If they want to redeem this game they need to make one where we see what happened in Ferelden with the use of the Keep
I think the symbol you said was a crow is a bow to symbol Leliana. She’s in origins. Then 2. And advisor in Inquisition. The thread stops at inquisition and Leliana wasn’t in Veilguard.
I would like to see a crossover of morrigan and yennefer from the Witcher how both would talk to each other , might be one hell of a dissmatch
I wouldn't be supprised if there is some sort of secret order that has been watching events and putting them together, maybe because they know about the Executors or not and they are trying to prepare for their return.
The Qunari will fight against the executors again. About anemic showdown, my Hawke is dead.
I think this is a board of someone theorycrafting who this Rook person is, rather. I think the "crow" is in fact a "bow+bird for Leliana and that the Dagger isn't really Rook but the Veilguard. And that the feather is in fact Morrigan who turns into a crow.
Lol there is zero chance we get an ultimate battle with returning characters, I’ll be suprised if the next game even has world states
Definitely not.
Sola's dagger connected harding back tothe titans... maybe it did the same for Varric. Dwarf don't die the go back to the stone.It's still to have him in a different form.
I want them to fix the terrible writing that plagues DAV not hinting at a new game. All I can hope for is the ending is okay.
The biggest question isn't who they will face, because we know its the executors. the biggest question is who the hero will be.
Is a nice peyote dream that the devs has about having a sequel specially on their hands
What if Rook had actually been "influenced" by the Executors/the figures that show up in the secret ending? After all Rook achieved their goal beating the last 3 elven gods. And the figure on the paper is part of the Executors who pulled the strings + Rook is the only MC who's heard them too
Part of me wants this game to be a spin off what if
I like this theory a lot. If we do get a 5th game, i would like to see hawkes armour and the inquisition dragon armour make a return and solas (trespasser) armour too.
The maker is having a big laugh right now. The silly humans got it all wrong so the next enemy is the Maker im joking but it sure would be a spanner in the works
(Really long post warning)
So I only hope that it won't go through development hell like Veilguard did. I would love an Avengers Endgame style game that's just pure fanservice in the best way possible. But I would like to breakdown who we would be looking at. And this is under the assumption that the executors and the devouring storm are one and the same, and that if the Forgotten Evanuris play a role it would be a minor one at best. And this would also be under the assumption that "X" character reached a fitting thematic end (assuming they died off.
Origins Heroes:
Hero of Ferelden: Assuming they went on their calling that means their quest failed and they didn't find a cure for the calling in the other continents. However if they *did* find a cure for the calling, be it a combinations of their findings and Fionna's cure for her Joining. They would probably be one of the least likely to appear.
Alistair: We don't really know his fate, assuming he took the throne and Denerim fell during the final blight, we could probably say that Inqy was able to get him to Skyhold safely (but we don't know if Skyhold held up during the final push, we know that they were struggling)
Wynn: Passed away some time during DA2 so no chance.
Ogerin: Not likely, and that's assuming he survived Amaranthine, the breach AND the final blight.
Leliana: We know she's a protected NPC and even when she dies she comes back (still waiting for them to reveal she's Andraste reincarnated) so her appearance is very likely (also she's a fan favorite), but her being a potential candidate for Divine Victoria makes it a little more complicated.
Shale: Not likely due to her basically being Wynn's headstone.
Zevran: He'll be back, he's a slippery one and it would be cool to see him be granted a pardon by Lucanis.
Sten: He'll be back, he's the Arishok and pretty much the only leader of the Qun left. The devouring storm and the executors being something that the Qun fears, and the loss of the Antaam basically just leaves the Ben Hassrath to defend Par Vollen so it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility for Sten to ask for help.
Morrigan: She'll be back. She's the new Flemeth, she won't be written out until the character has a successor.
Awakening Heroes:
Anders and Justice: They ded.
Nathaniel, Sigrun and Velanna: I would like to see any of the remaining three come back but all three would be ideal, it would be great but like with HoF it's possible that they had already gone on their Calling, (again assuming they weren't cured by their commander)
DA2 Heroes:
Hawke: Even assuming Hawke was left in the fade, it's entirely possible that Hawke was able to kill the Nightmare or escape it. Flemeth's prophecy seemed to point to that moment and Hawke is a beloved and clever character, they've gotten out of the fade before, they can do it again.
Twins: Assuming the surviving Hawke twin goes through the Joining then it's possible.
Sebastian: 100% would return if he survived the final blight.
Isabela: 100% returning if the Lords have a significant role in the future.
Aveline: if she survived the final blight I can see her returning.
Fenris: His story isn't done, I could actually see him joining the Shadow Dragons (Kinda weird he didn't). Kinda hoping for a Veilguard DLC that takes us to Seheron to meet him.
Merril: Maybe? She seemed dedicated to Dalish culture and assuming she was one of the elves that vanished into the forest post trespasser she would likely be keeper to a new clan, but if she stayed in Kirkwall then I think her return is about as likely as Aveline and Sebastian.
Tallis: Our favorite Elf Ben Hassrath agent. This one is purely based on weather or not BioWare can get Felica Day to reprise the role.
Inquisition Heroes:
Inquisitor: This will depend on if Inquisitor is a female Lavellan and romanced Solas. If so, no chance. but if not fairly likely.
Cassandra: if there's cause for the seekers to join the fray, alternatively if she's Divine Victoria then she'll likely be referenced to.
Blackwall: If he assumed command of the Orlesian Wardens during the final blight it's possible, but hard to say.
Cole: Some dialogues seem to point to Cole becoming human as the canon choice, especially given the fact that everyone remembers him, so there's a chance. Assuming Skyhold held up.
Iron Bull: Another one that's basically determined on weather or not BioWare can/will work with the actor again.
Solas: Not a chance.
Dorian: Fairly likely.
Vivienne: Maker I hope not.
Sera: The Friends of Red Jenny for sure survived the final blight (they're too slippery to not), Sera herself however, not sure if she'd want to after living through the breach and the final blight.
Cullen: No, keep him retired and happy. Say he fought in the final blight and survived, but don't bring him back (also don't give Greg Ellis work)
Josephine: Kind of a missed opportunity for her to not appear in Veilguard but I'd like to see the last advisor to the inquisition return.
Veilguard Heroes:
Rook: 100% is returning, like how Hawke returned for the Inquisitor and the Inquisitor returned for them. (Also assuming they don't retire with Harding in a cottage in Ferelden)
Davrin: Honestly it feels like the more fitting canon choice is for him to provide the opening for Lucanis to get the final blow on Gihl. It's justice for Weisshaupt, it's justice for Isseya's advanced blight, it's fitting that he dies. Wish there was a way neither died but what can you do BioWare does as they do?
Belarra: I'd say she would return so long as Rook calls for her.
Harding: I romanced her and for my first world state, she retires with Rook in a cottage in Ferelden. But I won't complain if she returns or succeeds Varric as the narrator. Harding dying to provide the opening for Lucanis makes no sense in my mind, what stake does she have in that, it wouldn't bring closure to her character as it does for Davrin.
Lucanis: Of course the first talon will return.
Neve: She'll be back she's Lucanis' woman and she's the best person to investigate the executors. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if she recruits the next Hero on behalf of Rook.
Emmerich: Pee-Paw Lich will return if the Mourn Watch has a stake in it or if Rook calls for him.
Taash: Will return if Isabela does imo.
Sorry for the long post but I just finished the game and I'm super excited to have conversations about it. :)
Dragon Age 5? I'm still waiting for Dragon Age 4 as teased in Dragon Age Inquisition, which of course will never happen. And I cannot recognize Veilguard as that sequel, because I loved the games to much to see them end with a lore-breaking, ultra-pandering, demented wet fart of a game.
I would love if for the next game we had a new hero being recruited by Rook to go fight the Executors and the Devouring Storm on the other side of the oceans before they reach Thedas, I hope we have many companions with some of them being old ones returning to help the new Hero like The Iron Bull for example, I want more specializations for class, it would be cool to have a pet that goes with us without counting as a companion (kinda like Davrin has Assan) and that pet can be personalized too like different species and attacks, romance and friendships being more important and with more impact on the story and introduce a way for the players to really create a unique personality to their characters that impacts not only the dialogue options but also actions
Hi, just saw your video and it's quite interesting. You said Morrigan's story is over but I think we will see her again because I think she is an Executor. Her staff during credit scenes gives it away. I think all companion's story arcs are connected to Solas especially the Crows and Mournwatch. Emmrich's accessories are similar to Morrigan's. My question is, what did Solas sacrificed to get Lavellan back, and the answer seems to lead to the Staff of the Void. Watch the redemption ending closely, how he held the lyrium dagger, who received it at the end, and who was holding Mythal's statue (i think it's empty). The latter connects to the Staff of the Void imo. Sorry for the long post. I'll keep an eye on your channel for more interesting posts. Have a great day.
Sir Dav when are yiu planning to release DA 5?
Elgar'nan and Ghilan'nain speak about the Executors in game as well
Do they!?
This was super interesting. Great video.
If they did something like that for DA5, they’d have to bring the Keep back.
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I don't really expect to see a dragon age 5 when technically veilgaurd pretty neatly tied up all the loose ends.
No architect no hawke in the veil no return of iron bull or Sutherland or the other mages or Alistair or oghren or Cole etc.
@dranzerjetli5126 I am not surprised not to see Iron Bull because if you chose to save his team, he probably stayed in Orlais, which would give him no reason to show up in veilgaurd because none of the places we go to in veilgaurd are anywhere near Orlais. Also if you chose to have your origin character marry Allister who is king of fereldan then it makes no sense to see either of them as for the architect we don't see more of him because he is either dead because he was of no use to the main antagonists in veilgaurd or he was working on their side so it makes no sense for us to see him in veilgaurd.
Soo I love this franchise and I am not sure if people realize this but there is still one character that we did meet in Inquisition that people probably forgot but there is still Morrigan and the Hero of Fereldan's Child that was conceived and has an Arch Demon's Soul/ Essence also known as the 5th elven god now inside of him just a food for thought But i think that would be awesome to see since he was already a teenager in Inquisition and its been years after the events of the Inquisition and you meeting the wee Lad would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this and yes I also know that you cant implement those events but those might be the default ones for the veilguard setting and story thank you soo much for this just finnished the game and still love the series and wanting more haha!
Dragon Age 5 due out in 2035. I would love to have the main characters back for some kind of showdown, but Veilguard tied up so much. The tease at the end was like a nothing sandwich.
Big question, does anything we do carry over? Does choice matter?
The are like 3 choices in DAV plus who survives the final battle I think would be easier to implement. They should bring back at least the mayor decision of past games (kinda like the awful minigame you play if you not import a old save in mass effect. Theres not every choice but enough to impact the game)
first feather links hof and hawke, so that says to me a separate fallen feather, black so crow, and thus zevran.
Maybe its only solas, someone find out that one person alone is responsible for all things that happened in these ages. So the picture outside is solas. He is the red thread behind them all. And because the Inquisitor and Rook are still alive the're two red threads.
Who knows exactly😅
Sry for my english
Of course, there will be a Dragon Age 5! However, I do think we will be waiting for a long time for it...maybe close to the decade we waited for Veilguard, if not more. I do think more people will embrace Veilguard over time, though, so the long wait between games will probably be for the franchise's ultimate benefit.
10 Years (╥﹏╥) I can't do it again. I'm not strong enough
I haven't finished DATV yet, but you you are saying there is a chance for another game...even though I am extremely dissapointed with the 'hard' reset they give in the Veilguard where lore and past history are sort of...flattened and turned upside down imo....we'll see. I have yet to see if I am going to be surprised with the ending in some way.
You’re Clearly not playing the game because no lore has been reset lmao
@@graynor67 was about to say the same thing, do these people have brain defects causing all this whinging. Like, can they comprehend the information given to them and see how it lines up with the old games. Cause there are a lot of smaller references to what happened, just because there is not a blazing banner for activities that happened over a decade ago on the other side of a continent does not mean they are gone.
@@AmbigousInfluencebrain defects, just because you don't agree? Seems a little extreme to me. People are allowed to have opinions that aren't yours and still be functioning intelligent people.
It would be cool if that was the Hero of Ferelden's board and they been watching the shadows figures. A return of them maybe as a mentor figure would be dope.
Unfortunately some people, like myself, have a dead HoF. Even Bioware's default canon for DAI has the Warden dead. I seriously doubt we'll see the HoF again, both for that and lots of other reasons.
We both know there won’t be a dragon age 5
Bioware is moving away from past games. This Executor thing is just a way to start a new story with just little nods to the past.
This! 🎯💯 They showed in Veilguard they dont care about anything from the past.
@robertthornton7900 they do care, just a lot of the past writers of former DA games and novels are gone. So they didn't know what they wanted to do with those past characters. That's why it isn't so connected like originally intended sadly.
@@robertthornton7900 They were already mentioned in DAI
The thing is, could that next enemy has something to do with the maker? I know the game blowed the whole story of the maker and golden city to shreds but Andraste was a real character with impacts on origins at least. I feel there isn't any closure about the story of Andraste and the maker yet to be honest.
Another thing was the hint of the Qunari tablet about the fire breathing Quanaris being a weapon against the threat across the sea. May be it has something to do with that too.
Considering they're moving on to work on the next Mass Effect game, I fear we won't be getting any answers on the next game for a WHILE 😭😭😭
I don't trust this team to make a sequel and unless Veilguard has a Christmas explosion I don't think we'll have to worry about that anytime soon.
Veilguard sold well and got good reviews. Whine elsewhere.
@@FearlessXful 1. Even if you used the highest estimate for DAV sales that number isn't high enough for a game with a dev cycle that long. Even if EA took every cent from every copy sold one million copies sold isn't even half of their reported production budget.
2. That wasn't a whine, that was a statement. Don't take the comment section too personally.
@@FearlessXfulso all the games media now saying how bad Veilgaurd is and only selling maybe a million copies when they need to sell 4-6 million just to break even is good? Facts don't care how you feel about the game, it is a flop and no one is playing it, no one is finishing it, and lots of people are refunding it or trading it in. Don't be mad because you're wrong.
Progenitors of the Qunari mayhaps?
Honestly I kind of feel like they should leave it at 4 and make a new IP
great video!
Sequel by itself is moot point to discuss since Veilguard cost so much and didn't earn half of it back.
its never too early to bring out the tinfoil hat :D ♥ after the game is before the game amiright
You know... say what you will, but Dragon Age II did it right. It went down with the global importance while retaining its epicness. The Executives are a BAD idea. Always putting someone higher above the last antagonist cheapens the previous experiences...
I feel like it points to a new enemy rather than the hero.
Great breakdown, but I’m just not excited about Dragon Age anymore. While I was entertained by DAV, it also left me with an empty feeling. I don’t think BioWare is capable of writing compelling characters and stories like they used to.
Case in point: I felt very little emotional connection to any of the companions in DAV, except for Harding-and she was introduced in a previous game.
Given the studio’s apparent rush to move on to the new Mass Effect game and their seeming distance from Dragon Age, I highly doubt we’ll ever get a fifth game. Even if we do, I’m not sure I’d want to play it.
I noticed that board! I honestly thought it was the devs making fun of us clowns lol
This was an unexpected pleasant surprise @Jackdaw. Thank you! 🎉❤
At this rate, DA5 will take place in Narnia with the Teletubbies...Another DA game won't happen.
That would still be better than Veilgaurd 😂😂😂
Do we think there even will be another Dragon Age game tho? :(
Yes shut up
As soon as I seen that board I though of you.
Best compliment EVER
I doubt they include many legacy characters. Mayne Rook. And I hope they integrate some decisions of the past games.
No need for the DAI keep to retur just the mayor ones.
Who is the white divine?
Kieran exist?
That sort of thing
Keep in general should return, maybe not as webpage but offline app that is readable by games. Keep was genius tool helping to narrow down and direct how game should play to respect choices. Game should just read pieces of Keep that will come to play in it.
@@cracmar03 what I meant is that the keep is yo extensive to realistically expect to have an impact. But we could have had more than DAV did
Great stuff
There won't be a Dragon Age 5. There wasn't even a legitimate Dragon Age 4. I'll stick with the Dragon Age trilogy.
So much lore was just abandoned. It felt like the writing team played maybe twenty hours of Inquisition and decided they had done enough homework. I’m not sure if I even want another game in this empty new Thedas.
What was abandoned? I felt we got massive lore drops in this game.
Also the writing team for DAV are all Dragon Age veterans except 1, Davrin’s writer, who wrote for Mass Effect.
The art book apparently shows a lot of interesting ideas that seemed to have been cut but my guess is with all the changes of what this game was supposed to be, they weren’t given time or resources to flesh it out fully.
EA always chases trends which is why we got Anthem & this was supposed to also be a live service game. I feel like I can tell Dark Souls inspired DAV a little with the environments also. Since BG3 did well, maybe they will be ok with that style in the next one.
@@Allaiya.We won't get a BG3 style game from bioware, they have never done turn based, outside of one Sonic jrpg for the game boy advance (yes, really this happened).
The original BG games were real time with pause, same as Origins, and that was far more action oriented than previous dnd adaptations.
BioWare only continued to get more action orienented with Jade Empire and Mass Effect, it is the style the studio prefers. People need to get that.
@@AmbigousInfluence I'm not talking about the gameplay style but the darker tone & more rpg aspects of BG3. I haven't played that game, I am just going off what I have heard from people. I prefer DAV combat anyway.
There will be no Dragon Age 5. It died with Varric
awww, they think they'll get to make a new dragon age game after this, how adorable.
This is a great game in my honest opinion.
Don't get influenced by the influencers. Judge it for yourself.
They made a new one after DA2 when people back then called it the end of BioWare.
@@Allaiya. dragon age 2 sold, quite well in fact. more than enough to be a big success. DAV requires 5-6 million sales just ot break even, and it'll be lucky if it sells 1.5 million total sales over the next 10 years.
@@biropgrulesDA2 still sold less than origins by like a million copies.
@@Allaiya. and? if it sold way more than it's budget then it's a success even if not as big as origins was. but to use that comparison iquisition sold 12 million copies, Bioware's best selling title ever. Veilguard has in absolute best case scenario, ignoring every single refund and counting every shipped game that wasnt actually sold by the stores that bought them, about a million. meaning 11 million people didnt buy the sequel to inquisition and probably isnt going to.
After the smashing hit that is Veilguard, I hope there won't be another Dragon Age...