Wanted to say how fantastic your videos have been, really high quality and the most helpful analysis I've found. I imagine it's very time consuming and took a lot of work to get all of these videos out and I really appreciate your hard work. Top stuff.
I don't usually comment on RUclips videos but I thought I'd drop a comment for once to say how impressed I am with your channel. I particularly like your conclusions at the end, which neatly summarise the findings. Excellent work! Also just a heads up: I found your channel after reading a comment from a viewer under one of Zealand's videos. I'll try to name-drop your channel under Zealand's videos; I'm sure quite a few of his subscribers would be really interested to find out about your channel.
Great video! There are so many parameters that affects the growth of the players, it would be interesting to be able to evaluate the importance of all these parameters relatively to each other. Like how much more important is 30 full 1st team games compared to 4.5 stars coaches, compared to clubs infrastructures, compared to players personality, compared to most efficient training, etc... So people would know on what to invest their time and money first. But that would be such a titanic job to do I reckon!
First of all, congratulations on your work and on the conclusions you are trying to draw from the measurements you are making. But I want to make a remark about a parameter that you may have forgotten that is very important in my opinion in working with young players -> the personality of coaches. Every time I take on a team I change and bring in coaches who always have only these personalities -> model citizen, model professional, perfectionist and professional and working with youngsters over 15. I also look for them to have high determination, motivation and level of discipline. The reason I do this is because I want my young players to get the best results from the first years and to be able to change their personality and determination. Other things clearly play a role in this, such as the facilities, the reputation of the club, the mentoring, etc., but if you build and renew what I said above every year by bringing in better coaches, you will see a crazy difference in the development of the players. Below I send you photos of 4 players who came out of my academy to see how much they have been boosted. When you can and find time, please do a test with the personality of the coaches with the 3 best in the game (model citizen, model professional and perfectionist) to see how they will affect the young players. Thank you very much. 1) prnt.sc/VZfB4tnfInkx 2) prnt.sc/JhWBP1VFvWM8 3) prnt.sc/Xby6kO9eYivK 4) prnt.sc/-AEvVThfQNWk
Hey bud, I didn't pay attention to the personality of the coaches this time. All the coaches in these experiments were built from scratch using the game editor and I can't remember what personality they had. As you suggested I'm sure the personality of the coaches play a big role in how the affect the growth of players (as well as the other attributes like determination / motivation / discipline), which is something I will need to test down the track. Kudos for the input.
It might not seem like a huge amount taken in isolation but when you add up other factors that influence development it might be in your best interest to at least consider it since you're not going to ever be in a perfect situation. For example, your facilities might be bad but if you have decent coaches, you make up a bit with that
Great great great job. Thanks for doing this researchs and teaching things that I will use on every save of the game I play! Would love to see some videos about personalities; is better to have a solid attribute HOYD or Sub20 Manager but awful personality or let's say a Model Citizen but with mediocre attributes?
Great job, it's always a pleasure to follow your experiments! 1 doubt and 1 questions: Why did you set up manual distribution of staff members instead of maximizing coach ratings? Wouldn't that have influenced more the results? Will there be a study about differences in CA growth when playing in first team, U23, U20 or U18? :)
Hey bud, I distribute the coaching assignments manually because if you leave it to the AI, the distribution may not be even. I had 6 coaches and I made sure that each coach had 2 assignments, ensuring an even distribution of workload. Study of player growth in different youth teams - this is on my agenda! Stay tuned and I will get around to it.
Some great stuff! Just need to learn how to do a T-Test on excel so you can say whether it’s statistically different or just luck! But real interesting to see that the player is more important than the coaches, just annoying that we can’t see all of PAD values without editor! I also find it weird how 18 year olds progresses quicker than 15 year olds?
Hey bud, I will definitely look into doing T-Tests for my future experiments. 18yr olds definitely grow faster than 15yr olds - refer to my video ruclips.net/video/4fl3QycR5A0/видео.html which shows that player growth peaks around 18yrs.
From skill development in football, the peak around 18 makes sense. Before 18 body is still growing, and too much strenght or endurance training can have negative impact. The slow change of the center of gravity complicates many already learned things. Faster growth, more problems. Around 18 all physical aspects are usually stable, you can focus on the muscle strenght which will impact so many aspects of player, usually positively. The brain can also think much more abstract and tactics impact can be really understood, not only memorized therefore it should be expected much faster growth in mental attributes.
So the conclusion could be, the higher the PAD, the less important are the coaches attributes ? So if we watch the table at 11:00 ... it would be interesting how high the PAD from Sancho or Elanga is, compared to, for example, Greenwood or Hannibal.
Hey bud, you are right - the higher the PAD, the less important the coaches become. In the Man Utd example, Sancho and Elanga's PAD values were actually not that high (10~15). So it is slightly odd that their growth stayed the same when the coaches had 1/20 attributes. But remember that this is an actual in-game situation, meaning that these players play matches throughout the season which would influence the results.
Are you able to do the same test with People Management? It alleges to also have an effect on training but doesnt effect a staff star rating during training
I wish I'd discovered your channel while you were active. These are uncommonly high quality videos and experiments.
Wanted to say how fantastic your videos have been, really high quality and the most helpful analysis I've found. I imagine it's very time consuming and took a lot of work to get all of these videos out and I really appreciate your hard work. Top stuff.
Appreciate it! Yes it is time consuming but after a while you get used to the process.
I don't usually comment on RUclips videos but I thought I'd drop a comment for once to say how impressed I am with your channel. I particularly like your conclusions at the end, which neatly summarise the findings. Excellent work!
Also just a heads up: I found your channel after reading a comment from a viewer under one of Zealand's videos. I'll try to name-drop your channel under Zealand's videos; I'm sure quite a few of his subscribers would be really interested to find out about your channel.
I appreciate it. There is still a lot that needs to be researched. I have so far barely scratched the surface. New video is coming soon :)
Massively underrated channel.
I needed the proof that Staff attributes either matter or don't and this gives it :) Good video
Great video! There are so many parameters that affects the growth of the players, it would be interesting to be able to evaluate the importance of all these parameters relatively to each other. Like how much more important is 30 full 1st team games compared to 4.5 stars coaches, compared to clubs infrastructures, compared to players personality, compared to most efficient training, etc... So people would know on what to invest their time and money first. But that would be such a titanic job to do I reckon!
Nice work mate, this video surely deserves more views!
First of all, congratulations on your work and on the conclusions you are trying to draw from the measurements you are making.
But I want to make a remark about a parameter that you may have forgotten that is very important in my opinion in working with young players -> the personality of coaches. Every time I take on a team I change and bring in coaches who always have only these personalities -> model citizen, model professional, perfectionist and professional and working with youngsters over 15. I also look for them to have high determination, motivation and level of discipline. The reason I do this is because I want my young players to get the best results from the first years and to be able to change their personality and determination. Other things clearly play a role in this, such as the facilities, the reputation of the club, the mentoring, etc., but if you build and renew what I said above every year by bringing in better coaches, you will see a crazy difference in the development of the players. Below I send you photos of 4 players who came out of my academy to see how much they have been boosted.
When you can and find time, please do a test with the personality of the coaches with the 3 best in the game (model citizen, model professional and perfectionist) to see how they will affect the young players. Thank you very much.
1) prnt.sc/VZfB4tnfInkx
2) prnt.sc/JhWBP1VFvWM8
3) prnt.sc/Xby6kO9eYivK
4) prnt.sc/-AEvVThfQNWk
Hey bud, I didn't pay attention to the personality of the coaches this time. All the coaches in these experiments were built from scratch using the game editor and I can't remember what personality they had. As you suggested I'm sure the personality of the coaches play a big role in how the affect the growth of players (as well as the other attributes like determination / motivation / discipline), which is something I will need to test down the track. Kudos for the input.
Love your work
It might not seem like a huge amount taken in isolation but when you add up other factors that influence development it might be in your best interest to at least consider it since you're not going to ever be in a perfect situation. For example, your facilities might be bad but if you have decent coaches, you make up a bit with that
Great great great job. Thanks for doing this researchs and teaching things that I will use on every save of the game I play! Would love to see some videos about personalities; is better to have a solid attribute HOYD or Sub20 Manager but awful personality or let's say a Model Citizen but with mediocre attributes?
hey bud, I don't thave any plans regarding HOYD / personalites at the moment but I will put it on the agenda. Stay tuned!
Great job, it's always a pleasure to follow your experiments!
1 doubt and 1 questions:
Why did you set up manual distribution of staff members instead of maximizing coach ratings? Wouldn't that have influenced more the results?
Will there be a study about differences in CA growth when playing in first team, U23, U20 or U18? :)
Hey bud, I distribute the coaching assignments manually because if you leave it to the AI, the distribution may not be even. I had 6 coaches and I made sure that each coach had 2 assignments, ensuring an even distribution of workload.
Study of player growth in different youth teams - this is on my agenda! Stay tuned and I will get around to it.
Some great stuff! Just need to learn how to do a T-Test on excel so you can say whether it’s statistically different or just luck!
But real interesting to see that the player is more important than the coaches, just annoying that we can’t see all of PAD values without editor!
I also find it weird how 18 year olds progresses quicker than 15 year olds?
Hey bud, I will definitely look into doing T-Tests for my future experiments. 18yr olds definitely grow faster than 15yr olds - refer to my video ruclips.net/video/4fl3QycR5A0/видео.html which shows that player growth peaks around 18yrs.
From skill development in football, the peak around 18 makes sense.
Before 18 body is still growing, and too much strenght or endurance training can have negative impact. The slow change of the center of gravity complicates many already learned things. Faster growth, more problems.
Around 18 all physical aspects are usually stable, you can focus on the muscle strenght which will impact so many aspects of player, usually positively. The brain can also think much more abstract and tactics impact can be really understood, not only memorized therefore it should be expected much faster growth in mental attributes.
Very nice video
So the conclusion could be, the higher the PAD, the less important are the coaches attributes ? So if we watch the table at 11:00 ... it would be interesting how high the PAD from Sancho or Elanga is, compared to, for example, Greenwood or Hannibal.
Hey bud, you are right - the higher the PAD, the less important the coaches become.
In the Man Utd example, Sancho and Elanga's PAD values were actually not that high (10~15). So it is slightly odd that their growth stayed the same when the coaches had 1/20 attributes. But remember that this is an actual in-game situation, meaning that these players play matches throughout the season which would influence the results.
good stuff
Are you able to do the same test with People Management? It alleges to also have an effect on training but doesnt effect a staff star rating during training
Nice work into this one as well. Can you make one for scouting as well?
hey bud, I am currently focusing on training & player development but I will definitely cover scouting in the future. stay tuned!
@@ebfm Nice!