I think you should have changed the wax paper capacitors as well as electrolytic if the are not leaky they are working on it. they can destroy IF transformers, Tubes, and mains transformers. I would bet that as they are 80 years old they are already leaky. Also would have been good to check the tuning of the IF transformers.
You mentioned that you didn't have the data on the 80 rectifier tube (valve) so I thought I would provide some sources that provide that information for you: www.tubesandmore.com/sites/default/files/associated_files/80tubular.pdf www.r-type.org/pdfs/80.pdf www.r-type.org/exhib/aaa0296.htm I hope that information is useful and helpful to you. There are some concerns that I want to share with you. The original can type capacitor that is mounted to the chassis has a metal outside to the can. That metal can shell is attached by being installed to the chassis to the chassis such that the defective capacitor is attached to "ground" even if you don't attach anything in the way of a wire or component to it. Since it appears that you are using the Positive pole of that capacitor as a terminal strip for the replacement new electrolytic capacitor, you have just made the new capacitor "leaky" by in effect putting a resistor across the new capacitor. No part of the new capacitor should be connected to any part of the old one. A lot of people take out the old can type capacitor and remove everything inside it. Then they put replacement capacitors inside and re-install it. It doesn't sound to me like you would want to do that, but I mention it just in case you do have any interest. Another concern is that it doesn't appear that you replaced any of the paper capacitors whatsoever. If you don't replace ALL the paper capacitors, you stand a very high chance of destroying the tubes (valves) and/or the transformers (especially the IF transformers) by not doing so. If you look at the schematic, you will see that from the plate of the tube going to the 2nd IF transformer primary, there is a capacitor at the bottom end of the coil to the chassis ground. That capacitor most likely is leaky and as it gets worse will act as a short to ground to draw excessive current and burn out the primary coil. Some sources you may want to have for parts and supplies are: www.tubesandmore.com/ www.radiodaze.com/ www.renovatedradios.com/ justradios.com/ www.retrocom.com/index.html
Very interesting radio and nice restoration. The 5 position tone control is unique. I like that you used the old switch, it sounds very solid. Here in the US, type 80 tubes are readily available for around $20 US. Not sure about other parts of the world. Best, Doc
Saudações brasileiras ao mestre restaurador desse lindo radio, que por coincidência acabei de compra um igual, só que o numero de serie é 414. Gostaria de saber se é possivel conseguir de voce o esquema eletronico deste radio, sei que é pouco comum este fato, mas gostaria de saber houve uma serie 400 para a região europeiaa e outra serie 400 para as americas. Se houver algo que me possa ajudar por favor, sou iniciante nessa nobre arte e ainda tenho todas as dificuldades do mundo quando a restaurar um radio valvulado. Desculpe o grande texto e espero que me possa ajudar abraços do Atlantico sul e muito obrigado pelo excelente video explicativo.
@@coldinspringfield7571 I am restoring those radios to put them in working conditions and then they are kind of archived. I start them from time to time occasionally. I am also trying to keep them in original condition as much as possible. I have one Blaupunkt from 1938 in 100% original condition and it is working perfectly. I will never sell those and my intention is not to have them in regular usage.
Why all the vintage radios technicians don't sand and refurbish and varnish the back lumen ( place of machine in the backside ) of the vintage cabinets or consoles !
@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67 Thanks but I really mean the backside of the chassis - not the machine at all - because all the restorations and refurbishments we saw are done only on the front outer view !
The WiMo QRM Eliminator is a simple signal phasing device that can effectively reduce or remove noise interference for dramatically improved HF reception. The QRM Eliminator is based on a totally innovative concept and cannot be compared to the performance of noise blanker or DSP circuits.
The broadcast inferenceses always represent a chronic problem ezzzzzzzzz oshshshshshsh 😠 In all the vintage retro radios in general are there a technical methods to avoid or eliminate these very noisy interfaceses
Hello, You know what is actually attracting me - and the others - in the vintage radios models are the wood cabinets and console, because I know the technology is the same in all the brand , only have am wave , and am / sw and am / sw / fm in the 40, s and 50,s But the wooden cabinets and consoles are a pieces of art ! Thanks
Lack of spare time. I'm working on one complex radio now. I hope I'll have more time soon to finish it and place new video. At least 15 more radios are waiting in line ;-)
@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67 the best way to have a meaning for you expertise is to convey some of it to the others .. So updatig your vedios are important for others .. Good luck
I just moved to my new apartment which belongs to a distanced family member and it has inside a Paillard which is Radio on the top and a multidisk under the radio, it is quite heavy and tall but i havent been able to find it online, i guess it is a pretty rare model.
Please I have seen some old technician, who can clean and wash the whole machin of the vintage radio like the China plates, and turn it to zero of first production, what do they use soap and water or chemical liquids or both , thanks
Thank you, I am asking you about such details of buying the vintage radio and its spare parts because I am not living in the US, I am foreigner, and I a have inherited - by my family - a group of vintage audio sets, all dead because of the passing away of all the very clever old technicians and the old original spare parts too from the old electrics markets in my country 😊
Are the original spare parts of the retro vintage radio cabinets are still produced till now in usa and euroup , or provided by the old retro inventory stocks in the old electrics markets, its very vital on case of purchasing a retro audio devices, thanks .
@@makyhsmakyhs6766 No, not at all. First, you don't buy such device to use it every day. It is like oldtime cars. There are many parts to find in exchange, from other collectors and so on. Every device needs maintenance. This is not mass produced consumer electronic to be thrown away when it is broken. After all, this is piece of art.
@@ivanstefanovic665 yes but the audiophiles and amateurs who are only interested in audio sets like to hear it daily like me, and you now confess by yourself like the other professionals, that there is no new spare parts, so how to solve it , we buy and pay money, its not primarily a matter of woodPhil only 😊, now my question, what to do without any new spare parts production, please tell me what to do, thanks Ivan.
@@makyhsmakyhs6766 It is not all black and white, fortunartelly. If you decide to by one, check for tubes if you can find spare ones. Some tubes can be found, some are quite rare. It depends on tube it self. Other parts, like transformers, capacitors, resistors, electrolytic capacitors and so on can be purchased everywhere. So we are talking about just couple of spare parts you cannot find in stores. If you brake a button, or dial on the radio, then you have an issue. Also, many people mistakenly think these are HiFi devices. They are not. Those barely reach half of the HiFi standard but they have "warm" tube sound. So, as audiophile, you can turn to modern tube amplifiers as better alternative.
Thanks for the lesson. Nice job on the radio! Im surpriced that you not change all the old paper an wax capacitors. Cold you tell me whats inside the false antenna between the signalgenerator and the radio. I have just bought an old german generator and will test it on my radio. Its a Swedish Luxor radio from 1951. Regards Bjorn
Hi. I support changing all caps but there is a reason why I don't do it. It is huge amount of effort and cost just to remove possibility for any to fail. If those are in good shape, I just leave them. I don't use those radios to listen program on them on daily basis. I just repair them to work and leave them as functional artifact of one radio industry era. My experience showed that those can last quite long (except electrolytic capacitors). False (dummy) antenna is simulating real antenna impedance (radio.radiotrician.org/2016/05/dummy-antenna.html).
I think you should have changed the wax paper capacitors as well as electrolytic if the are not leaky they are working on it. they can destroy IF transformers, Tubes, and mains transformers. I would bet that as they are 80 years old they are already leaky. Also would have been good to check the tuning of the IF transformers.
That's a very nice set!
You mentioned that you didn't have the data on the 80 rectifier tube (valve) so I thought I would provide some sources that provide that information for you:
www.tubesandmore.com/sites/default/files/associated_files/80tubular.pdf
www.r-type.org/pdfs/80.pdf
www.r-type.org/exhib/aaa0296.htm
I hope that information is useful and helpful to you.
There are some concerns that I want to share with you. The original can type capacitor that is mounted to the chassis has a metal outside to the can. That metal can shell is attached by being installed to the chassis to the chassis such that the defective capacitor is attached to "ground" even if you don't attach anything in the way of a wire or component to it. Since it appears that you are using the Positive pole of that capacitor as a terminal strip for the replacement new electrolytic capacitor, you have just made the new capacitor "leaky" by in effect putting a resistor across the new capacitor. No part of the new capacitor should be connected to any part of the old one. A lot of people take out the old can type capacitor and remove everything inside it. Then they put replacement capacitors inside and re-install it. It doesn't sound to me like you would want to do that, but I mention it just in case you do have any interest.
Another concern is that it doesn't appear that you replaced any of the paper capacitors whatsoever. If you don't replace ALL the paper capacitors, you stand a very high chance of destroying the tubes (valves) and/or the transformers (especially the IF transformers) by not doing so. If you look at the schematic, you will see that from the plate of the tube going to the 2nd IF transformer primary, there is a capacitor at the bottom end of the coil to the chassis ground. That capacitor most likely is leaky and as it gets worse will act as a short to ground to draw excessive current and burn out the primary coil.
Some sources you may want to have for parts and supplies are:
www.tubesandmore.com/
www.radiodaze.com/
www.renovatedradios.com/
justradios.com/
www.retrocom.com/index.html
Thank you.
Volume might be due to not using the electrodynamic field coil.
Very interesting radio and nice restoration. The 5 position tone control is unique. I like that you used the old switch, it sounds very solid. Here in the US, type 80 tubes are readily available for around $20 US. Not sure about other parts of the world.
Best, Doc
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Saudações brasileiras ao mestre restaurador desse lindo radio, que por coincidência acabei de compra um igual, só que o numero de serie é 414. Gostaria de saber se é possivel conseguir de voce o esquema eletronico deste radio, sei que é pouco comum este fato, mas gostaria de saber houve uma serie 400 para a região europeiaa e outra serie 400 para as americas. Se houver algo que me possa ajudar por favor, sou iniciante nessa nobre arte e ainda tenho todas as dificuldades do mundo quando a restaurar um radio valvulado. Desculpe o grande texto e espero que me possa ajudar
abraços do Atlantico sul e muito obrigado pelo excelente video explicativo.
Yes, of course. Send me your email, and I'll send you the schematic. I'm glad you like this video.
very nice radio,i like the cabinet,just beautifull (i dont like metalic verticals,sorry)
every one of those old capacitors need replaced they could die at any moment I wouldnt buy anything you have serviced
Thank you. None of these is for sale anyway.
they could be if you put in just a bit more effort@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67
@@coldinspringfield7571 I am restoring those radios to put them in working conditions and then they are kind of archived. I start them from time to time occasionally. I am also trying to keep them in original condition as much as possible. I have one Blaupunkt from 1938 in 100% original condition and it is working perfectly. I will never sell those and my intention is not to have them in regular usage.
Поздрави от България
PS: Paillard is pronounced Pie-yar
Thank you.
You have done a very good job on this radio. Having just found your channel I have subscribed. Thank you.
Hi , where are you fellow !
Sorry, don't have much spare time these days. I will be back soon.
@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67 best wishes
Hi,
what is the protective coating , thanks.
What brand do you repair today ! 🤔
It will be Radione soon.
@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67 we r waitin
Hi , you forgot to tell me what is the protective coating , thanks
Why all the vintage radios technicians don't sand and refurbish and varnish the back lumen ( place of machine in the backside ) of the vintage cabinets or consoles !
You would remove the protective coating.
@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67
I mean the wood itself from inside what is the protective coating please ?
@@makyhsmakyhs6766 OK. I thought you meant the chassis. Why would you do the wood from the inside? There is no need for that.
@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67
Thanks but I really mean the backside of the chassis - not the machine at all - because all the restorations and refurbishments we saw are done only on the front outer view !
Hi, are you there
Please, do you have a schematic circuit of this radio?
Yes, you can find it on radiomuseum.org
@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67, ok, tank you very much!
You must take a 2 days holiday to up date your channel.. Waitin !
I will try to put out something quite soon.
@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67 👏👍
The WiMo QRM Eliminator is a simple signal phasing device that can effectively reduce or remove noise interference for dramatically improved HF reception. The QRM Eliminator is based on a totally innovative concept and cannot be compared to the performance of noise blanker or DSP circuits.
The broadcast inferenceses always represent a chronic problem ezzzzzzzzz oshshshshshsh 😠
In all the vintage retro radios
in general are there a technical methods to avoid or eliminate these very noisy interfaceses
Yes, but the results are humble.
@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67 oh .. No , for example can you add / cancel / remove electromechanical parts fro the machine !
@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67 as an audiophile I say its impossible to torlate or endur such noise all the time even for the vintage retro lovers !
@@makyhsmakyhs6766 It is even worst for radio amateurs.
@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67
Please , is there a method you guys know to decrease or eliminate that interferences !
Hello,
You know what is actually attracting me - and the others - in the vintage radios models are the wood cabinets and console, because I know the technology is the same in all the brand , only have am wave , and am / sw and am / sw / fm in the 40, s and 50,s
But the wooden cabinets and consoles are a pieces of art ! Thanks
Hello, can you guide me to a Web. contains list models ( photos) of zineth vintage radios that were produced in the 30, s and 40, s.
Thanks .
I don't know what is your preference. Just Google.
@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67 no I am just asking you , in case you know some Web to be browsed .
A company called inalso, Indian or Chinese is remanufacturing the vintage tubes , is that true ?
I haven't heard of them. Probably worth searching for. I bought some "new" tubes on eBay. Those were recently manufactured in China.
@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67 inalso company, ask about em and tell me please , thanks
Hi :
Why did you stop updating your channel ! Haven't seen any new videos ?
Lack of spare time. I'm working on one complex radio now. I hope I'll have more time soon to finish it and place new video. At least 15 more radios are waiting in line ;-)
@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67 the best way to have a meaning for you expertise is to convey some of it to the others .. So updatig your vedios are important for others .. Good luck
@@makyhsmakyhs6766 I agree. Thank you for your interest. I don't have any benefit of it except the joy when I see that other people find it useful.
@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67 I know its a hobi for but useful for others 👍
I just moved to my new apartment which belongs to a distanced family member and it has inside a Paillard which is Radio on the top and a multidisk under the radio, it is quite heavy and tall but i havent been able to find it online, i guess it is a pretty rare model.
Btw i have the instructions manual and it was apparently bought on 1950 and model # 7603 (or Z7603)
Good luck
Sorry for miss understanding I am a new subscriber today I talking about what I have seen before in other vedios and photos !
I am following your channel but you never respond to the comments .. ! If you don't care about follow and participation , say it .. Its OK !
Take a look at comments and you will see I have answered every question. Whenever I get notification I do reply as soon as I can.
@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67 thanks, good luck
Please I have seen some old technician, who can clean and wash the whole machin of the vintage radio like the China plates, and turn it to zero of first production, what do they use soap and water or chemical liquids or both , thanks
I really don't know about the others.
Oh, WOW! 👀 It looks FANTASTIC! 👍👏
I googled what you told me about the modern amplifiers tubes, wow its a new hope for the very old radios, but mostly Chinese products 🤨
It is possible to fix or connect a vintage audio / radios to a Bluetooth unit !! How and is that a good thing in general !
Thank you, I am asking you about such details of buying the vintage radio and its spare parts because
I am not living in the US, I am foreigner, and I a have inherited - by my family - a group of vintage audio sets, all dead because of the passing away of all the very clever old technicians and the old original spare parts too from the old electrics markets in my country 😊
Which country if may I ask?
@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67 the oldest nation in history 😊
I am young man only 5250 years old. 😊
@@makyhsmakyhs6766 So, Africa it is ;-)
@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67 Egypt
Are the original spare parts of the retro vintage radio cabinets are still produced till now in usa and euroup , or provided by the old retro inventory stocks in the old electrics markets, its very vital on case of purchasing a retro audio devices, thanks .
So far, I was getting parts only from other, unusable radios. I don't know about spare parts manufacturing at the moment.
@@vintagetuberadiorepairing67 so, buying such vintage radio now is useles because any device needs repair and maintainance, so what to do then!
@@makyhsmakyhs6766 No, not at all. First, you don't buy such device to use it every day. It is like oldtime cars. There are many parts to find in exchange, from other collectors and so on. Every device needs maintenance. This is not mass produced consumer electronic to be thrown away when it is broken. After all, this is piece of art.
@@ivanstefanovic665 yes but the audiophiles and amateurs who are only interested in audio sets like to hear it daily like me, and you now confess by yourself like the other professionals, that there is no new spare parts, so how to solve it , we buy and pay money, its not primarily a matter of woodPhil only 😊, now my question, what to do without any new spare parts production, please tell me what to do, thanks Ivan.
@@makyhsmakyhs6766 It is not all black and white, fortunartelly. If you decide to by one, check for tubes if you can find spare ones. Some tubes can be found, some are quite rare. It depends on tube it self. Other parts, like transformers, capacitors, resistors, electrolytic capacitors and so on can be purchased everywhere. So we are talking about just couple of spare parts you cannot find in stores. If you brake a button, or dial on the radio, then you have an issue.
Also, many people mistakenly think these are HiFi devices. They are not. Those barely reach half of the HiFi standard but they have "warm" tube sound. So, as audiophile, you can turn to modern tube amplifiers as better alternative.
Maybe a silly question but what kind of wax did you use to clean and make so nice the box? Thanks
No wax, just varnish.
Nice job. Nice radio. Nice video.
Thanks for the lesson. Nice job on the radio!
Im surpriced that you not change all the old paper an wax capacitors.
Cold you tell me whats inside the
false antenna between the signalgenerator and the radio.
I have just bought an old german generator and will test it on my radio. Its a Swedish Luxor radio from
1951. Regards Bjorn
Hi. I support changing all caps but there is a reason why I don't do it. It is huge amount of effort and cost just to remove possibility for any to fail. If those are in good shape, I just leave them. I don't use those radios to listen program on them on daily basis. I just repair them to work and leave them as functional artifact of one radio industry era. My experience showed that those can last quite long (except electrolytic capacitors).
False (dummy) antenna is simulating real antenna impedance (radio.radiotrician.org/2016/05/dummy-antenna.html).