Yep. If she'd didn't have such a fragile ego and just ignored the situation after she was first called out, people would have forgotten about her by now and moved onto the next drama.
Imagine hiring a copyright lawyer who doesn’t understand what “fair use” is. Giving commentary is transformative. She needs a hobby other than policing others freedom of speech.
@1llustrousking As much as I wish this were true, unfortunately she has a valid license in Illinois. She was licensed November 2019 and her license is in an active status.
It's called drama channels. Start unsubscribing from them if you don't want these videos popping up on your algorithm 😂😂😂😂 Duhhhh?? Use your brain. If you have one. LMFAO 😅
It makes me laugh! RUclips is a huge corporation and they probably have an entire legal department. A department that advises them on fair use and all those other legal concepts that Jeannette is braying about.
Lmfao!!! Not even that, RUclips is owned by Google which means their attorneys are 100000% Ivey league scholars. What a joke that home girl from bumfuck Illinois with her laughable law degree thinks she’s smarter than their legal team.
In order to get quite a few of the jobs RUclips offers one has to be a lawyer. (I looked up their job offers a while ago and most of them at the time required a law degree.) I'm fairly sure that the people checking these copyright complaints (and even just comments that get reported) are lawyers. In some cases of copyright infringement claims RUclips even asks for proof of ongoing legal proceedings and/or the outcome of legal proceedings in regards to these copyright infringement claims and only then takes action. (I know that "DissociaDID" had to go through a very lengthy court case and present RUclips with the final ruling in their favour in order to get all of their falsely copyright claimed videos back up.)
RUclips doesn’t just have lawyers. They have an entire, massive department of lawyers. They have been to court many times over these laws, and they know them better than anyone, especially a hole in the wall lawyer like Jeanette.
LMAO!!! Jeanette talking to RUclips like it's a person that can be scared of her useless legal jargon that has no bearing on the actual case in hand and not a giant corporation with a whole host of high powered attorneys that are laughing their asses off at her right now.
Probably not even if people send in complaints. I used to work with lawyers and met a whole lot of shady ones, but the only one I ever met who was disbarred got it for stealing from multiple clients and signing agreements in their name without consent. She could maybe? Get a suspension but long shot because being scummy is kinda common in the trade
The people who are directly involved have put in complaints to the ethics committee. People involved are asking people NOT to flood in with complaints so the real ones are more valid
I'm 100% convinced and strongly believe she doesn't have anyone currently using or seeking her services with the amount of time she has on her hands to go against the very area of law she practices knowing she's in the wrong to begin with.
@@lolamurder1882 Must be a damn good price if she's willing to go this far them and ruining her reputation, credibility, and integrity in the process for being in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons. Especially if she's now on RUclips trying to flag 94 videos over a few seconds of fairly used content.
Yeah honestly if I needed an IP lawyer I wouldn't pick her just based on the fact that she's the sole lawyer at her firm. That's super weird even if she's the one who founded the firm, that NOBODY ELSE works there?? I wouldn't pick her unless her fees are extremely low and I was desperate. I also still firmly believe the mortician girl is somehow related to her. I'm thinking they're a niece/aunt duo.
@@FrenkTheJoyThat's so funny that her law firm consists of just her lol, if I had to guess that's probably a testament to how terrible of a lawyer she really is. She's probably broke as hell and no lawyers with any sense would touch her firm with a 10ft pole.
She's not genuinely trying to protect her "art" and she doesn't actually believe she's a victim. She's just trying to silence people from talking about her which is the same thing she does for her clients. She's trying to hit people where their finances are and with take downs so they stop exposing her. She's literally acting like a mob boss trying to use the legal system for a personal vendetta. Except she doesn't have as much power as she acts like she does and keeps exposing herself for what she's really doing. Hopefully she's already under investigation by the Bar association in her state, of not soon, because she's off the leash and unhinged.
She just wants the money. They make money from RUclips videos. She makes a fool of herself on Tiktok. She sees the dollar signs. But she is the one who's going to be out of pocket by the time this ends!
I'm a lawyer, albeit not an American lawyer. If Jennette really was giving her such poor advice, Lauren should report Jenette to her state Law Society/bar.
Let's be honest she only hired her because she was the only one that wouldn't tell her she's in the wrong and wouldn't have a leg to stand on in court. 😂 She likely looked at multiple but was told to walked away until she finally scraped the utter bottom of the old abandoned barrel that's been sat out in the shed and smells a bit
I wonder if her follower count has gone up or down since this started to go down. Some people will follow her for just the drama. I strongly urge people not to do that. Just wait until it gets reported by a commentary channel. Where the heck is the Bar Assciation during this sh*t show?
@@rabbitguts2518 She does appear to be unless she is telling the biggest fibs all around Bar Admissions Illinois U.S. Patent and Trademark Office U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Michigan U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Texas
I didn't expect it to go this far either. But my favorite part of this Google doc defamation suit she's trying was easily where they misspell their own client as "Laura the Mortician" lmaooo (It was in my section around the screenshot of my first video- point 24)
Defamation is what the tarot tik tok lady was doing. None of these women have said anything defamatory about the mortician or her lawyer. They are both crazy narcissistic karens, in my opinion.
I’m glad you mentioned Paige Christie because what the backstory behind her issues with this lawyer is that Jeanette is representing someone who refuses to take images of Paige’s now-deceased aunt off their business’ website. So yet another very ugly situation where this quack lawyer is playing a central role.
@@neonwired4978 According to her website she is Bar Admissions Illinois U.S. Patent and Trademark Office U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Michigan U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Texas
I am so ridiculously invested in this hot mess of a situation… yeah, her “lawyer” is workin’ *hard* to get disbarred or at least reprimanded by the bar… one can hope. ❤❤
Or landing in jail for abuse of authority/harassment/fraud for pretending to be a lawyer 😂 either way this crazy lady isn't gonna go far when she can't even comprehend the basica
This makes me want to do dramatic readings of Janet's tik toks so RUclipsrs can use that instead of using her "art"... also, that "art" in her videos is nothing more than just explaining her interpretation the law... which literally anyone can do... like me 😂
You need to get Bailey a comfortable couch or something, so he can judge you while you record your videos like your last set-up. Glad to see a tail wag or seven.
I'm glad that RUclips correctly referred to 'fair dealing' as well as fair use. Just to be legally nerdy, in E&W the correct term, and test, is "Fair dealing". "Fair use" is the correct term in the US though.
She knows people are looking into her, but doesn’t seem smart enough to know how to weaponize things that would be more believably (to outside parties; i.e. RUclips and Tiktok) be manipulated. It’s kinda sad lol
She's neither delusional or an idiot. She is conniving and money hungry. She is going to use EVERY single avenue she can imagine, because she's trying to set a precedent. Can you imagine the money she could be rolling in if she found a way to circumvent fair use and make using someone else's "art" (insert eye roll here lol) grounds for a lawsuit. She's definitely got dollar signs in her eyes. And guaranteed she's going to be getting as many "victims" involved as she can. I'm sure she's the driving force behind the so called mortician, but I still don't like her LOL
I mean she is kinda stupid tho. I agree on some account that she is definitely playing dumb regarding the legalese but I cannot see this reflecting well on her when it comes to her colleagues and reputation. Even if she wants to present herself as a sleazy lawyer specializing in internet drama won’t she be reported for her incompetence or abuse eventually?
@@PiaPancakes I hope so. But I'm not sure that filing claims is considered abuse. If she is in real life like she portrays herself online that she probably doesn't have a positive reputation with her colleagues. I personally find it reprehensible and abusive, I hope there are laws that negate such actions honestly.
Lolll the 10 minute window refers specifically to the audio versions because the ads are baked into the full run time of the episode so depending on where the ads run and how long they are, the specific timecode of where her tiktok plays varies from platform to platform. Keep in mind, in actuality we only used 20 seconds towards the beginning of the episode and then like 40 minutes later it plays an additional minute. The full tiktok is 8:43 long lmao we obviously couldn’t bear to watch more than 1:21 total and couldn’t even do that at once because it was too painful 😂😂😂 in total, our entire episode was over an hour and twenty minutes and her tiktok makes up one minute and twenty one seconds.
Tik tok has created these awful entitled people who think the world owes them for everything. I dunno maybe they’ve always been there but now they have a platform, but man, there’s some shocking behaviour coming off that app!!!
These people have always existed, only now, they have a platform to show off their craziness and narcissism and get the attention they so clearly crave!
sounds like her lawfirm isn't doing so well. Otherwise, she'd be busy working? My husband's a lawyer and would not have the time of day to bother with this tiktok drama. Time is money, in this case, so why bother with this, if you could be working with a client?
Im beginning to think that Jeanette has (aLlEgEdLy) genuinely zero self awareness, and not just being purposefully obtuse because she’s getting paid, + doesn’t like the negative publicity. Someone doesn’t know what the Streisand Effect is I guess! I think she might possibly have something else to hide at this point (allegedly + in my opinion)🤔🤔🤔
Honestly, the escalation of her actions just keeps going, and it's baffling and scary. I feel bad if she ever goes through a divorce. The poor person will never have a minute of rest.
If she's actually married I mean if any man is stupid enough to "marry" her he'd be running to the courts for a DIVORCE AND P,P,I (JUST HOPE it's a real solicitor) otherwise she'd sue him for "USING HER ART" and he'd be doing 2× LIFE SENTENCES for trying to get a P,P,O so SHE HAS TO KEEP AWAY FROM HIM 😮😂
I genuinely can't decide which one is more insane, Blair getting pissed over Legal Eagle using a similar editing technique or Jenette getting pissy over a 20 second tiktok being used.
Not sure, they have both gone quite real world over it too, Blair with the cease and desists and suits at the different Sad Milk members, Jeanette seems to be willing to send a cease and desist on behalf of any social media influencer that asks (not sure if Jen Gerard fits into influencer but close enough).
Just a few things I'm thinking...... Why haven't any of her clients spoken out? Do they approve of this behavior? Is this what THEY'RE asking her to do ON THEIR behalf? Have any of them spoken out? or dropped her? Does the bar stand behind such questionable things, and in my opinion, complete disregard (in some examples) for the law? And I wonder, Does the bar still stand behind her, without re going through ALL her past cases now, and still say with certainty, those past cases are .....as they say.... "on the up up"?...... After seeing such behavior demonstrated and so boldly i might add, do they plan on letting her continue this bs? 🤔
Another question...does she have other clients? Because if she does, she's not acting like it with all the time she's spending on this foolishness. She also doesn't seem to know law at all, the fact that she tried to explain to RUclips how the fair use law works even though RUclips has a whole legal department is baffling.
I get the feeling that this "lawyer" is really into Better Call Saul and other funny/dramatic lawyer-related tv shows and movies, and I get the feeling that meetings/conversations with her include overdramatic and/or incorrect explanations. Like the whole fair use/self defense in a murder case analogy lmao
She has been, Jessi asked that people don't put in a complaint if they aren't directly involved because it will dilute the complaints of the people that have been directly affected and potentially they won't be taken as seriously (might think that it is just drama)
Ammy did a video about the newest update. I have to say it once again, if there is one meme to sum this up currently, it's the marcia brady one with the text on screen saying, "Sure, Jan" Especially with her filing legal paperwork about people not always using her name/spelled correctly. She hates Janet or Jan. So due to her own bs, I'll never refer to her by her correct name ever again. How can you be so ridiculous and be a public figure and get THIS mad over something as miniscule and harmless as autocorrect or misspelling her first name. Someone please look into Lockyer Law, esp Benjamin Lockyer, the sole attorney at their firm, based in Chicago, IL. The site is super sus after reading through it. I am not saying they're inadequate or not real attorneys, it's just... off. Chicago is my hometown. Janet can't even afford to practice in the city. big bad braun-y is all the way out in Addison. Ew. I am extremely curious about her and who she chose to represent her and Lauren.
Did find it hilarious that part of her defamation claim was that DWKT was saying Janet instead of Jeanette and weren't linking her content that they were using. Nice that she is self aware enough to get someone to represent her, scary that someone took it on with the facts that were presented in the filing (though they did make for a good read)
Worse… AGAIN? Worse. . Worst… worser… worstest. It never ends. Ya I second the ‘attorney’ motion. All her antics are only making this situation worse && keeping the response videos from dying down. She can’t even see it’s having the adverse affect- that’s no liar I want.
At this point, I'm convinced she's setting up an insanity defense, to be used for the on-coming legal actions against her. She BETTER have her license to practice law taken away.
This is from her website Bar Admissions Illinois U.S. Patent and Trademark Office U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Michigan U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Texas and have heard that the bar is looking into the complaints made against her, would have been very cut and dry if she wasn't licenced (or whatever the correct term is)
@@amandamandamands She wrote it on her website - but I have YET to see evidence of any of this posted anywhere. Her BAR# isn't doxing; that would be on every court filing she's filed as a practicing attorney. I *sincerely* doubt she's an attorney. The whole thing screams "I have a paralegal certificate, so I'm practically a lawyer! How dare you question me!" vibes. Until I see a BAR#, she's NOT AN ATTORNEY. BAR#, or it didn't happen, lady.
I don't like Jeanette but you're misunderstanding her point here which actually does make logical sense. Self-defense and fair use are both positive defenses. By claiming either defense, you are saying that you acknowledge you did the thing being claimed but that you had a reason. In court, defenses only come up after the claimant or prosecutor has already discharged their burden of proof. So no, no one could be found guilty for claiming self-defense.
This attorney is UNHINGED!!! Sounds like she’s going so hard bc if she can’t get the content removed, she’ll lose business? It seems like that’s her whole gig right? “Hire me & I can get literally anything you want taken down off the internet.” I’m very interested to see how this plays out!! 🤔👀
Jeanette’s biggest skill is in the minutiae of IP law. Her greatest weakness is an inability to see big-picture. A case isn’t won or built exclusively from the minutiae. The greatest skill for a lawyer to possess is knowing the difference between ‘winning’ and a successful outcome for your client. Often a lawyer will seek out the clients which mirror themselves. That’s never been more true than with Jeanette. And so, her clients and Jeanette herself shall see the success they deserve. They may ‘win’ often- but may rarely see successful personal outcomes.
I have been taking a break after finishing my associate's degree and haven't been very motivated to finish my bachelor's and apply to law school because it sounds so difficult and daunting.. but, thanks to Janet, it now feels a bit more achievable. 😂 If she can do it, I'm 100% certain I can, too. Absolutely hate that she's caused so much trouble for people, but I suppose I'm grateful for the inspiration. On a side note.. I would love to know if this behavior is her normal, cause if it's not.. it would make complete sense if she has a medical problem impacting her capacity to make rational decisions. Regardless.. so concerning.
One of her art claims is her reading that fair use clip you pulled up. She was reading someone else work and then struck them for using Her Art. What??
MARKIE thank you so much for keeping us updated with your videos. I know the work it takes. And we most certainly appreciate you for all the work you do. You are amazing
Jeanette gives ambulance chaser vibes. Like I feel she seeks out content creators already dealing with the drama because they’re the ones desperate enough to hire anybody
She’s not taking it seriously, she is weaponizing the law in anyway she can. I think the real question is her motives, is she just being paid? Or has this become personal because of the opinions people have expressed about her or because she is Lauren’s personal friend or family.
I used to love laurens videos, i feel like its fairly common to trust someone when they say stuff like "im a professional and heres how you keep your kids and family safe" but the more that comes out abt her the more i regret never looking closer when i first found her account
Was just thinking to myself aww there’s isn’t going to be a new video this evening as there where two yesterday/ one really early this morning. Then refreshed and it was sitting there waiting. So chuffed.
The way she “thinks whatever the lawyer says was right” is ironic as she didn’t trust the guy she said was a weirdo for his job being to check car seats and make sure they are safe and certified for safety and safe use.
The fact that she compared a nothing burger of a lawsuit to taking another's life unjustly already has me not on her side. All of the other facts are just bonus reasons not to side with her.
The only person who is guilty of ruining Lauren's reputation is Lauren. Everyone else is simply stating facts.
this comment reminds me of that eric andre shooting his friend meme-
lauren: *shoots at herself*
also lauren: why would kitty do this to me?!
"how dare you ruin my reputation by accurately stating the things I have said/done!!" - - - Lauren probably
Yep. If she'd didn't have such a fragile ego and just ignored the situation after she was first called out, people would have forgotten about her by now and moved onto the next drama.
You summed that up perfectly. Agreed.
Imagine hiring a copyright lawyer who doesn’t understand what “fair use” is. Giving commentary is transformative. She needs a hobby other than policing others freedom of speech.
She knows what it means. She had a whole video about it. She doesn't think the rules apply to her or her clients.
She isn’t a lawyer she had her license revoked and is illegally practicing
@@Pocket_Sized_Satani didn't know she was revoked !
@@Pocket_Sized_Satan wow so she’s insane and a fraud.
@1llustrousking As much as I wish this were true, unfortunately she has a valid license in Illinois. She was licensed November 2019 and her license is in an active status.
Everytime I see another Lauren the Mortician video I'm like HOW is there more?! 😭
Right?! 😅😂
It's called drama channels. Start unsubscribing from them if you don't want these videos popping up on your algorithm 😂😂😂😂 Duhhhh?? Use your brain. If you have one. LMFAO 😅
careful she may come after you she is crazy imo
@@EmilysDismantlingDeluluscrazy and seems to think speaking facts about what she’s done is defamation
I audibly groaned and said “AGAIN??”
🤔 For a "copyright lawyer" she seems to know absolutely nothing 🤦🏻♀️
Which is a scary thing
Well she had her license revoked so that should tell you something
@@Pocket_Sized_Satan whoa, that's wild. where can I confirm that information?
@@Pocket_Sized_Satan other comments said that she’s still licensed, stop spreading misinformation
@@Pocket_Sized_Satanthis has been definitively disproven
It's funny that she specifically quotes Campbell v. Acuff Rose because the party claiming copyright infringement in that case actually lost the case
The longer this whole situation goes on, the more I'm actually questioning whether she actually passed the bar.
Janette not believing RUclips has actually lawyers and people that understand the law in their pay-roll, not like her.
It makes me laugh! RUclips is a huge corporation and they probably have an entire legal department. A department that advises them on fair use and all those other legal concepts that Jeannette is braying about.
Lmfao!!! Not even that, RUclips is owned by Google which means their attorneys are 100000% Ivey league scholars. What a joke that home girl from bumfuck Illinois with her laughable law degree thinks she’s smarter than their legal team.
In order to get quite a few of the jobs RUclips offers one has to be a lawyer. (I looked up their job offers a while ago and most of them at the time required a law degree.) I'm fairly sure that the people checking these copyright complaints (and even just comments that get reported) are lawyers. In some cases of copyright infringement claims RUclips even asks for proof of ongoing legal proceedings and/or the outcome of legal proceedings in regards to these copyright infringement claims and only then takes action. (I know that "DissociaDID" had to go through a very lengthy court case and present RUclips with the final ruling in their favour in order to get all of their falsely copyright claimed videos back up.)
RUclips doesn’t just have lawyers. They have an entire, massive department of lawyers. They have been to court many times over these laws, and they know them better than anyone, especially a hole in the wall lawyer like Jeanette.
Unethical Creator hires unethical lawyer, makes sense to me.
LMAO!!! Jeanette talking to RUclips like it's a person that can be scared of her useless legal jargon that has no bearing on the actual case in hand and not a giant corporation with a whole host of high powered attorneys that are laughing their asses off at her right now.
Jeannette and Lauren are the butt of many office jokes now.
Can we get her disbarred? At this point seems like she has to be at the very least violating some ethics with her actions.
Thats for the lawyers and judges who lawyer above her to decide. But yes, if anything she should be suspended for a while.
Probably not even if people send in complaints. I used to work with lawyers and met a whole lot of shady ones, but the only one I ever met who was disbarred got it for stealing from multiple clients and signing agreements in their name without consent. She could maybe? Get a suspension but long shot because being scummy is kinda common in the trade
The people who are directly involved have put in complaints to the ethics committee.
People involved are asking people NOT to flood in with complaints so the real ones are more valid
That assumed she’s even barred in the first place. I’m not sure she is at this point
@Natalia-ex8xi yep. Lawyers will only take action if it upsets them not the public. 🫠
I'm 100% convinced and strongly believe she doesn't have anyone currently using or seeking her services with the amount of time she has on her hands to go against the very area of law she practices knowing she's in the wrong to begin with.
I wonder how much these influencers pay her.
@@lolamurder1882 Must be a damn good price if she's willing to go this far them and ruining her reputation, credibility, and integrity in the process for being in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons. Especially if she's now on RUclips trying to flag 94 videos over a few seconds of fairly used content.
my tinfoil hat rn is that she has intergénérational wealthy parents or family, and this is just *‘Murican Gurrl Boss™* to the depths of hell
Yeah honestly if I needed an IP lawyer I wouldn't pick her just based on the fact that she's the sole lawyer at her firm. That's super weird even if she's the one who founded the firm, that NOBODY ELSE works there?? I wouldn't pick her unless her fees are extremely low and I was desperate.
I also still firmly believe the mortician girl is somehow related to her. I'm thinking they're a niece/aunt duo.
@@FrenkTheJoyThat's so funny that her law firm consists of just her lol, if I had to guess that's probably a testament to how terrible of a lawyer she really is. She's probably broke as hell and no lawyers with any sense would touch her firm with a 10ft pole.
She's not genuinely trying to protect her "art" and she doesn't actually believe she's a victim. She's just trying to silence people from talking about her which is the same thing she does for her clients. She's trying to hit people where their finances are and with take downs so they stop exposing her. She's literally acting like a mob boss trying to use the legal system for a personal vendetta. Except she doesn't have as much power as she acts like she does and keeps exposing herself for what she's really doing. Hopefully she's already under investigation by the Bar association in her state, of not soon, because she's off the leash and unhinged.
Yes!!! All of what you said!!! 👏👏👏
Also she’s going to be learning what the Striesand Effect is very quickly at this rate
Yup, you nailed it. all that.
to be fair, people like that believe they're victims _all_ the time. that's her secret, cap.
She just wants the money. They make money from RUclips videos. She makes a fool of herself on Tiktok. She sees the dollar signs. But she is the one who's going to be out of pocket by the time this ends!
I'm a lawyer, albeit not an American lawyer. If Jennette really was giving her such poor advice, Lauren should report Jenette to her state Law Society/bar.
Let's be honest she only hired her because she was the only one that wouldn't tell her she's in the wrong and wouldn't have a leg to stand on in court. 😂 She likely looked at multiple but was told to walked away until she finally scraped the utter bottom of the old abandoned barrel that's
been sat out in the shed and smells a bit
It seems like these people hired her BECAUSE she is this unethical
Does Janet realize that Google/RUclips have a truckload of lawyers on their books?
I've heard the state of Illinois Bar Association has received so many complaints, they are actually investigating
I wonder if her follower count has gone up or down since this started to go down. Some people will follow her for just the drama. I strongly urge people not to do that. Just wait until it gets reported by a commentary channel. Where the heck is the Bar Assciation during this sh*t show?
Remember, just because someone is a lawyer it doesn't mean they're smart 😂
If she's even a lawyer to begin with. I'd believe you if you told me she was some random lady this girl picked up from the street out back of the pub
@@rabbitguts2518 She does appear to be unless she is telling the biggest fibs all around
Bar Admissions
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For real, this saga should inspire people. If this lady can be a lawyer, surely anyone can!!!
@@MashaRistova Scary that someone can be so bad at it and they are who you are relying on to help you in court.
I didn't expect it to go this far either. But my favorite part of this Google doc defamation suit she's trying was easily where they misspell their own client as "Laura the Mortician" lmaooo (It was in my section around the screenshot of my first video- point 24)
that’s incredible 😂
LMAO NAH NO WAY
gonna do my best to defame ‘Laura’ the Mortician and see what happens
Defamation is what the tarot tik tok lady was doing. None of these women have said anything defamatory about the mortician or her lawyer. They are both crazy narcissistic karens, in my opinion.
Totally agree with everything you just said.
I’m glad you mentioned Paige Christie because what the backstory behind her issues with this lawyer is that Jeanette is representing someone who refuses to take images of Paige’s now-deceased aunt off their business’ website. So yet another very ugly situation where this quack lawyer is playing a central role.
Calling her delusional requires her to have some basis on earth for her claims.
These claims are on Jupiter.
The fact that she has actually filed the lawsuit against the four creators for defamation is even crazier.
Those lawsuits are going to get thrown out so fast. How is this woman a lawyer? She has zero grasp of law. And she’s seriously unhinged.
13:30 bottom line it’s fair use, and the fact that an IP attorney doesn’t understand how fair use works and transformative content is scary
She absolutely knows how fair use works - she just doesn't care and believes she can twist and scam the system for her own gain
no way are they an actual lawyer
@@neonwired4978 According to her website she is
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U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Michigan
U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Texas
@@jupitersnoot4915she’s what they call a “copyright troll.” She thinks if she claims everything, sooner or later sHe’ll get results
I am so ridiculously invested in this hot mess of a situation… yeah, her “lawyer” is workin’ *hard* to get disbarred or at least reprimanded by the bar… one can hope. ❤❤
Yes! My thoughts exactly.
Or landing in jail for abuse of authority/harassment/fraud for pretending to be a lawyer 😂 either way this crazy lady isn't gonna go far when she can't even comprehend the basica
Janet is a delusional menace. Be careful Markie, or she'll be adding you to her naughty list. LOL.
Was looking for a Janet comment!
I’d like to see her try especially from across the pond lol
@@Padgriffin Janet's ego is so gigantic, I suspect she thinks borders can't block her brilliance. 😂
This makes me want to do dramatic readings of Janet's tik toks so RUclipsrs can use that instead of using her "art"... also, that "art" in her videos is nothing more than just explaining her interpretation the law... which literally anyone can do... like me 😂
Do it!
You need to get Bailey a comfortable couch or something, so he can judge you while you record your videos like your last set-up. Glad to see a tail wag or seven.
there's no way this lady can get crazier
*she proceeds to get crazier*
Jeanette is giving off sovereign citizen vibes.🙄
OMG the arc that none of us want but definitely could predict
don’t get pilled down the pipeline, janet!
😂😂😂😂 ..
I'm glad that RUclips correctly referred to 'fair dealing' as well as fair use. Just to be legally nerdy, in E&W the correct term, and test, is "Fair dealing". "Fair use" is the correct term in the US though.
It almost like YT has actual lawyers (allegedly)
Please keep calling out this nasty and despicable behavior, Markie, you're doing God's Work!
Are we certain she passed the BAR? Like she doesn't seem to know law at all
She knows people are looking into her, but doesn’t seem smart enough to know how to weaponize things that would be more believably (to outside parties; i.e. RUclips and Tiktok) be manipulated. It’s kinda sad lol
If she harasses RUclips enough, they might just forward everything to the bar she is licensed under
@@jdruin1that would be hilarious
She's neither delusional or an idiot. She is conniving and money hungry. She is going to use EVERY single avenue she can imagine, because she's trying to set a precedent. Can you imagine the money she could be rolling in if she found a way to circumvent fair use and make using someone else's "art" (insert eye roll here lol) grounds for a lawsuit. She's definitely got dollar signs in her eyes. And guaranteed she's going to be getting as many "victims" involved as she can. I'm sure she's the driving force behind the so called mortician, but I still don't like her LOL
Bingo.
She’s gunning for whatever the OJ Simpson version of Rob Kardashian was - OVER TRANSFORMATIVE FAIR USE 💀
The lawyer that just sued Ethan Klein thought the same thing about a sinilar copyright situation, and they lost lol
I mean she is kinda stupid tho. I agree on some account that she is definitely playing dumb regarding the legalese but I cannot see this reflecting well on her when it comes to her colleagues and reputation. Even if she wants to present herself as a sleazy lawyer specializing in internet drama won’t she be reported for her incompetence or abuse eventually?
@@PiaPancakes I hope so. But I'm not sure that filing claims is considered abuse. If she is in real life like she portrays herself online that she probably doesn't have a positive reputation with her colleagues. I personally find it reprehensible and abusive, I hope there are laws that negate such actions honestly.
Someone should contact the state bar association as a "wellness check" on Lauren's lawyer's behavior.
Lolll the 10 minute window refers specifically to the audio versions because the ads are baked into the full run time of the episode so depending on where the ads run and how long they are, the specific timecode of where her tiktok plays varies from platform to platform. Keep in mind, in actuality we only used 20 seconds towards the beginning of the episode and then like 40 minutes later it plays an additional minute. The full tiktok is 8:43 long lmao we obviously couldn’t bear to watch more than 1:21 total and couldn’t even do that at once because it was too painful 😂😂😂 in total, our entire episode was over an hour and twenty minutes and her tiktok makes up one minute and twenty one seconds.
Sorry yall are dealing with this! Janet is unhinged and this behavior needs to stop
Tik tok has created these awful entitled people who think the world owes them for everything. I dunno maybe they’ve always been there but now they have a platform, but man, there’s some shocking behaviour coming off that app!!!
These people have always existed, only now, they have a platform to show off their craziness and narcissism and get the attention they so clearly crave!
You’re gonna get a wellness check soon lmaooo
"The fact that she keeps calling it 'art' is genuinely hilarious" 😂😂😂 it really is though lmao
sounds like her lawfirm isn't doing so well. Otherwise, she'd be busy working? My husband's a lawyer and would not have the time of day to bother with this tiktok drama. Time is money, in this case, so why bother with this, if you could be working with a client?
Im beginning to think that Jeanette has (aLlEgEdLy) genuinely zero self awareness, and not just being purposefully obtuse because she’s getting paid, + doesn’t like the negative publicity. Someone doesn’t know what the Streisand Effect is I guess!
I think she might possibly have something else to hide at this point (allegedly + in my opinion)🤔🤔🤔
Wowsa. I may be just a lowly paralegal… but even **I** understand Fair Use, & this is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS. 💯⚖️🤷🏻♀️😂
Honestly, the escalation of her actions just keeps going, and it's baffling and scary. I feel bad if she ever goes through a divorce. The poor person will never have a minute of rest.
If she's actually married I mean if any man is stupid enough to "marry" her he'd be running to the courts for a DIVORCE AND P,P,I (JUST HOPE it's a real solicitor) otherwise she'd sue him for "USING HER ART" and he'd be doing 2× LIFE SENTENCES for trying to get a P,P,O so SHE HAS TO KEEP AWAY FROM HIM 😮😂
Right! She’s unhinged! If anyone needs a wellness check it’s her
She took those old infomercials to heart, eh? "But wait.... THERE'S MORE!"
her equating copyright infringement and murder is still the funniest thing ive seen in the past couple days
I genuinely can't decide which one is more insane, Blair getting pissed over Legal Eagle using a similar editing technique or Jenette getting pissy over a 20 second tiktok being used.
Not sure, they have both gone quite real world over it too, Blair with the cease and desists and suits at the different Sad Milk members, Jeanette seems to be willing to send a cease and desist on behalf of any social media influencer that asks (not sure if Jen Gerard fits into influencer but close enough).
Me everytime i see Markie post about lauren: “HOW IS SHE STILL GOING?”
Janette really thinks she's the main character, doesn't she? 😂
Just a few things I'm thinking......
Why haven't any of her clients spoken out?
Do they approve of this behavior?
Is this what THEY'RE asking her to do ON THEIR behalf?
Have any of them spoken out?
or dropped her?
Does the bar stand behind such questionable things, and in my opinion, complete disregard (in some examples) for the law?
And I wonder, Does the bar still stand behind her, without re going through ALL her past cases now, and still say with certainty, those past cases are .....as they say.... "on the up up"?...... After seeing such behavior demonstrated and so boldly i might add, do they plan on letting her continue this bs?
🤔
Another question...does she have other clients? Because if she does, she's not acting like it with all the time she's spending on this foolishness. She also doesn't seem to know law at all, the fact that she tried to explain to RUclips how the fair use law works even though RUclips has a whole legal department is baffling.
Bunnie (also garbage) Laura Clery, some other girl that’s suing some Veronica woman. And they all delete comments if you mention it 🙃
I get the feeling that this "lawyer" is really into Better Call Saul and other funny/dramatic lawyer-related tv shows and movies, and I get the feeling that meetings/conversations with her include overdramatic and/or incorrect explanations. Like the whole fair use/self defense in a murder case analogy lmao
I love Markies sarcastic tone everytime he talks about her “attorney” 😂
The lawyer needs to be reported to the bar
She has been, Jessi asked that people don't put in a complaint if they aren't directly involved because it will dilute the complaints of the people that have been directly affected and potentially they won't be taken as seriously (might think that it is just drama)
4:06 "Why does she think it's that serious?" She is incapable of handling criticism, plain & simple
Man, Markie fans are eating well these days; 3 videos in three days!
Hopefully we can get more Markie videos before the year ends!
Yes 🫶🏻
3 videos in 2 days * lol
Ammy did a video about the newest update. I have to say it once again, if there is one meme to sum this up currently, it's the marcia brady one with the text on screen saying, "Sure, Jan"
Especially with her filing legal paperwork about people not always using her name/spelled correctly. She hates Janet or Jan. So due to her own bs, I'll never refer to her by her correct name ever again. How can you be so ridiculous and be a public figure and get THIS mad over something as miniscule and harmless as autocorrect or misspelling her first name.
Someone please look into Lockyer Law, esp Benjamin Lockyer, the sole attorney at their firm, based in Chicago, IL. The site is super sus after reading through it. I am not saying they're inadequate or not real attorneys, it's just... off. Chicago is my hometown. Janet can't even afford to practice in the city. big bad braun-y is all the way out in Addison. Ew. I am extremely curious about her and who she chose to represent her and Lauren.
Did find it hilarious that part of her defamation claim was that DWKT was saying Janet instead of Jeanette and weren't linking her content that they were using.
Nice that she is self aware enough to get someone to represent her, scary that someone took it on with the facts that were presented in the filing (though they did make for a good read)
Worse… AGAIN? Worse. . Worst… worser… worstest. It never ends. Ya I second the ‘attorney’ motion. All her antics are only making this situation worse && keeping the response videos from dying down. She can’t even see it’s having the adverse affect- that’s no liar I want.
Someone should report the lawyer at this point
At this point, I'm convinced she's setting up an insanity defense, to be used for the on-coming legal actions against her. She BETTER have her license to practice law taken away.
I genuinely refuse to believe this woman is a lawyer 😭
Me too, bro! Me too!
This is from her website
Bar Admissions
Illinois
U.S. Patent and Trademark Office
U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Michigan
U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Texas
and have heard that the bar is looking into the complaints made against her, would have been very cut and dry if she wasn't licenced (or whatever the correct term is)
my faith in millennial humanity tho, like why has she become like this. what forked your road, janet 😂
And it sounds like, base on other comments, she's tackling stuff that's NOT in her speciality.
@@amandamandamands She wrote it on her website - but I have YET to see evidence of any of this posted anywhere. Her BAR# isn't doxing; that would be on every court filing she's filed as a practicing attorney. I *sincerely* doubt she's an attorney. The whole thing screams "I have a paralegal certificate, so I'm practically a lawyer! How dare you question me!" vibes. Until I see a BAR#, she's NOT AN ATTORNEY.
BAR#, or it didn't happen, lady.
Imagine getting Jeanette as your attorney after legitimately offing someone in self defense.
"My client said they did it, they're guilty!"
I don't like Jeanette but you're misunderstanding her point here which actually does make logical sense. Self-defense and fair use are both positive defenses. By claiming either defense, you are saying that you acknowledge you did the thing being claimed but that you had a reason. In court, defenses only come up after the claimant or prosecutor has already discharged their burden of proof. So no, no one could be found guilty for claiming self-defense.
I love the amount of videos he does where it's some small drama then new information starts popping out left right and center
This attorney is UNHINGED!!! Sounds like she’s going so hard bc if she can’t get the content removed, she’ll lose business? It seems like that’s her whole gig right? “Hire me & I can get literally anything you want taken down off the internet.” I’m very interested to see how this plays out!! 🤔👀
This lady is really the TT version of Illuminati 🥴 more just keeps coming out !
Jeanette’s biggest skill is in the minutiae of IP law. Her greatest weakness is an inability to see big-picture. A case isn’t won or built exclusively from the minutiae. The greatest skill for a lawyer to possess is knowing the difference between ‘winning’ and a successful outcome for your client.
Often a lawyer will seek out the clients which mirror themselves. That’s never been more true than with Jeanette.
And so, her clients and Jeanette herself shall see the success they deserve.
They may ‘win’ often- but may rarely see successful personal outcomes.
Damn. The gift that just keeps giving.
Im shocked to see RUclips actually being like "No, you cant do that" for once. Where was that energy for everyone else abusing the copyright system?
I have been taking a break after finishing my associate's degree and haven't been very motivated to finish my bachelor's and apply to law school because it sounds so difficult and daunting.. but, thanks to Janet, it now feels a bit more achievable. 😂 If she can do it, I'm 100% certain I can, too. Absolutely hate that she's caused so much trouble for people, but I suppose I'm grateful for the inspiration.
On a side note.. I would love to know if this behavior is her normal, cause if it's not.. it would make complete sense if she has a medical problem impacting her capacity to make rational decisions. Regardless.. so concerning.
How does she keep getting worse?! Her and her lawyer are out of their freaking minds 🤣
I desperately want to know if any of Jeanettes other clients have smarten up and fired her!
One of her art claims is her reading that fair use clip you pulled up. She was reading someone else work and then struck them for using Her Art. What??
If mortician knows what’s good for her, she will drop the lawyer. She is destroying her 🤦🏼♀️
I’m impressed that out of 8 billion people in the world, Lauren managed to find a lawyer the same brand of crazy as her
She's attempting to bully others to get her way. Its pressure and threats. Long and frequent bouts of noise and annoyance.
My hubby and I love your videos!!! Thank you for always covering interesting topics with your personal commentary!!!
we are only given so much time on this planet. how sad does someone have to be to waste that little time they have on something so stupid?
Poor Markie, he goes to puts out one drama video and they turn into Sagas 😂😅. Love it. Xx
MARKIE thank you so much for keeping us updated with your videos. I know the work it takes. And we most certainly appreciate you for all the work you do. You are amazing
Sat in bed eating a lidl own brand cornetto listening to a Markie video... properly chilling out
I don't think I've ever been this early to a video. Thank you for always bringing the goss!!
The "copyright lawyer" Jeannette is being a damn Karen at this point.
This is so entertaining please keep updating this story 😂
I think this IP lawyer is just trying to use her tiktok moments of fame as far as she can.
She needs to be brought up before the bar ethics committee! She’s an absolute disgrace to the profession!
There’s a bunch of lawyers in a RUclips boardroom somewhere pissing themselves with laughter at her bullshit claims
Jeanette gives ambulance chaser vibes. Like I feel she seeks out content creators already dealing with the drama because they’re the ones desperate enough to hire anybody
This Person wouldn’t do this type of stuff if it didn’t work. Allowing her to continue her path of terror on small creators is crazy.
For a lawyer, she doesn't seem to be well versed in law
She’s not taking it seriously, she is weaponizing the law in anyway she can. I think the real question is her motives, is she just being paid? Or has this become personal because of the opinions people have expressed about her or because she is Lauren’s personal friend or family.
I used to love laurens videos, i feel like its fairly common to trust someone when they say stuff like "im a professional and heres how you keep your kids and family safe" but the more that comes out abt her the more i regret never looking closer when i first found her account
I think at this point she needs to have a wellness check done on herself as she’s committing moral and social un a-living of herself.
These people don’t know how to chill out
Even if we meet her with her own logic for the murder trial- a defendant is innocent until PROVEN guilty, not until accused by a family member.
Someone should redirect her attention to sssniperwolf, and they can be indefinitely stuck in a cosmic copyright battle for the ages.
did she buy her law credentials? because YIKES
Hopefully her intimidation tactics stop working right here and now. CLEARLY this has worked for her multiple times in the past.
I love that her best argument seems to be "Only a judge can determine this! so do as a say!!" Neither are you Jeanette, neither are you...
I hate when creators I like turn out to be such horrible people her videos still come up because I used to watch them and I’m like nope and scroll on
so no one else is gonna mention the puppers in the background? Iconic, stunning we would die for le puppers.
Was just thinking to myself aww there’s isn’t going to be a new video this evening as there where two yesterday/ one really early this morning. Then refreshed and it was sitting there waiting. So chuffed.
The way she “thinks whatever the lawyer says was right” is ironic as she didn’t trust the guy she said was a weirdo for his job being to check car seats and make sure they are safe and certified for safety and safe use.
RUclips needs to start punishing serial offenders abusing false copyright strikes
She went to law school to do this all day. How is she not embarrassed.
As the saying goes: lawyers at the bottom of their class….are still lawyers 🙃
Guys... do you think she needs a wellness check? She seems mentallt unwell😢😢😢😢
Seriously lol
The fact that she compared a nothing burger of a lawsuit to taking another's life unjustly already has me not on her side. All of the other facts are just bonus reasons not to side with her.