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Hey Dan, David here, i just checked out the vid on the M1A and others, it was informative for sure. The rifle I considered buying was a Century Arms Cetme Sporter not the FAL/HK..you needed some close-ups on your grouping/ bullseye's! 💪
lol yea I’ve kinda gotten away from accuracy test showing. Instead just using reactive targets and steel targets. I’ll keep it in mind for next time though
@@BattlefieldCurator btw, I've got a 1903 Springfield 30-06 coming my way FYI ..not sure if it is the sniper or just the regular Army issue, I do recall being told there used to be a scope mounted on it.
Worth noting ergonomics as well. The FAL and the G3 are the best in that regard. The FAL is not far from the AR-15 if you are right-handed and your trigger finger is long enough to hit the mag release. The non reciprocating charging handle on the FAL is superior to the AR in my opinion, though.
Tbh in terms of ergonomics I g9 1: FAL, 2: M14, 3: Saiga (AK) 4: G3. The reasoning is that ergonomics includes its manual of arms, and the G3 requires a lot of force to load compared to the other weapons. I love mine don't get me wrong but it is easily the most difficult of these to operate.
Lived in Georgia my whole life and it was nice seeing my friends from MB in this video. I’m there so often I might as well live there 😂 I love going there for the fun and weird firearms they always get in. Ben is definitely a great guy.
@@BattlefieldCurator absolutely love the place! I’ve been eying the C96 they’ve had in there for over a year now. Just unfortunate that I can’t afford it for the price they’re asking yet
Should be noted that M1a has a heavy match barrel you can see the profile with the op rod to the rear. makes it 2lbs heavier than an M14 with a usgi barrel. That extra weight is also out front.
Yes it’s a Stainless Steel National Match barrel. Came from the factory like that, they discontinued it. The previous owner put a military M14 stock on it and changed the sights.
I have an inch pattern FAL and love it. The only issue I have with it is there no good way to put a scope on it and it tends to chew up my brass. Shot the M14 in the military, thought it was heavy and the action tended to pinch my little finger on my off hand. Just think if the US military had gone with the FAL but with an intermediate cartridge (not the 5.56 NATO) back in the 1950’s.
Yea an intermediate cartridge M14 would have been interesting. A polymer stock with pistol grip would have also brought it to be more like the AK and FAL
You're missing the best of all by far: the NATO/Portuguese-model AR-10. Every unit that used the AR-10 in combat subsequently was issued either an FAL (occasionally) or G3 (usually), and to a man, they far preferred their ArmaLites.
I have the FAL, M1A, and PTR-91. I like the FAL better because it's balance. The G-3 is by far Soldier proof but it does beat my face more. The M1A M-14 is a target rifle a true marksmans rifle with it's ergonomics. The FAL is my combat rifle.
I have the same three 308 rifles as well as a 7.62x54r Vepr. Overall, the FAL fits me the best, while the M1A/M14 is a better target rifle. So same conclusion as you.
Honestly this is a tough choice but from my personal experience i would have to give it to the FAL. Though i have none of these on my channel lmao oh well Personally i think the Garand is superior to each of these. Though it depends on perspective. The M14s gas system doesnt do it much justice and its mags are bulky and heavy, roller delayed G3 makes it recoil harsh a bit, and the FAL has its share of issues too.
The FAL is the best of the bunch, though I've not fired one, but I still love my HK91A3, which I bought new in 1984 for $750 (instead of the $1200 for the FAL). I've modified it slightly to be lighter and more ergonomic. It's so beautiful (though the FAL is a super-fox)! Still, it's been replaced in my "survival" arsenal with an IWI Tavor 7 and a POF Rogue. The HK91 recoil impulse is dragged out a bit by the locking roller design, so it pushes rather than kicks, but I've heard it can be kind of weird in full auto.
UNCLE has HK91 back in that EARA BOUGHT IT NEW BACK BEFORE THEY WENT WAY UP IN PRICE HE PAID LESS THEN $500 NOW THAT GUN IS MORE THEN 4 TIME'S THAT the good old days before all the CRAZY BANS
My first comment got yeeted some kind of way....? Cool vid, was trying to let you know I live in your area and go by All American every now and then - I've got a pretty big collection of oddball guns if you wanted to do some videos on them and/or collab.
SAIGA 308 IS THE BEST, Of Course. Convert it and drop in an ALG trigger. Best Battle rifle, without question. Best all around, do anything rifle. Still affordable, though get one while you can. Prices are going up, with the ban and the new war.
How you pronounced Martinez hurt me inside. I mean you pronounced it right and wrong. When it’s someone’s name that’s correct, but the town is Martin-ez.
Glad you mentioned it! It’s kinda like the whole Ga-rand and Gahr-und thing. Martinez was founded by a Cuban plantation owner that settled there in the 1800’s. A post office was placed near his ranch and they called it Martinez. Well He was only here for about 11 years, so when he left, we would assume the correct pronunciation of the name left with him.
Quisiera los tres pero en México no los podemos tener. Bueno, en teoría sí podríamos tenerlos porque el calibre .308 es permitido para civiles. Pero al ser variantes de fusiles de asalto, se impide su venta. Aunque hay algunas personas que tienen versiones legales tanto en .223 como .308
The standard miss conception about the M14 is that it was all political. Not so. The design was based on the most likely threat to be faced and whare in that Era, the success of 20 years with the M1 Garand as well as the no significant value to adoption of a foreign design over our own proven platform. Both the M14 and M16 are still with us today for this reason. The weight and handling issues could have been easily been resolved with a different stock design and aluminum rather than steel magazines. The M16 should have been adopted to replace the M1 carbine rather than the main line service rifle. Problems with range and accuracy during the late unpleasantness showed that. The thinking of the time by the wiz kid thinking in Washington of the time was one weapon could replace all of the purpose built weapons in service. Periodically that lesson has to be re tought that. The notion that every NATO country should adopt the same rifles would never happen and isn't so today and there was no such need to do so. No weapon is perfect, they all had/have their issues and they all work well. I've often heard that there was no reason not to adopt the FAL. There really was no reason to adopt it over the M14.
modularity? there was no modularity back then for the M16, if Anything, the G3 would have had that even before the M16 but it didnt alter the course of anything.
Take one into combat with the dirt, dust and shit that clings to everything and see how long you M1A keeps shooting. It was from a bygone era and the design already obsolete by the time it was chosen.
@@TexasNationalist1836 It was reliable "For it's day". I'm not an Anglophile snob, despite training in Cadets with the Lee Enfield and carrying an SLR in service; if I had been a WWII soldier and given the choice, I would have gone with an M1 Garand.
@@stevephillips8719 if it was reliable for its day in the jungles of the pacific to the sands of Africa to the muddy battlefields of Russia or France don’t you think it’s still going to be reliable in todays more industrialized age with less natural conditions like sand mud or jungle
I'm really sick of ridiculous questions and creators with an agenda. "Best" is, after all, subjective. Any of the three can even be OBJECTIVELY the best for a particular stated purpose or situation. For instance, if you're training a bunch of people, most of which have never fired a gun before, how to shoot and a LOT of them are recoil shy then the M14 wins, hands down. You can pick and choose situation for either of the other two the same way. Stick to compare and contrast and leave the "best" arguments for the bar where they belong.
On the range or in open field conditions where you can’t take a shot at somebody 3,4, 500 meters away, the M14 hands down. Fir every other conceivable use, the FAL hands down. The G3 is just ergonomically retarded and only exits because the Belgians told the Krauts to go screen themselves when asked if they could produce their own G1 FALs. The G3 was fielded out of spite and is inferior to the FAL in just about every conceivable way.
It is obviously between the FAL and the HK91 , the FAL is both heavy and poorly sighted, the HK91 has a less then desired trigger! For my money I will always go with the G3 (HK91), it's a riflemens rifle and the trigger can be improved!
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I went with the M1A Scout Squad. No regret at all
Hey Dan, David here, i just checked out the vid on the M1A and others, it was informative for sure. The rifle I considered buying was a Century Arms Cetme Sporter not the FAL/HK..you needed some close-ups on your grouping/ bullseye's! 💪
lol yea I’ve kinda gotten away from accuracy test showing. Instead just using reactive targets and steel targets. I’ll keep it in mind for next time though
@@BattlefieldCurator btw, I've got a 1903 Springfield 30-06 coming my way FYI ..not sure if it is the sniper or just the regular Army issue, I do recall being told there used to be a scope mounted on it.
Worth noting ergonomics as well. The FAL and the G3 are the best in that regard. The FAL is not far from the AR-15 if you are right-handed and your trigger finger is long enough to hit the mag release. The non reciprocating charging handle on the FAL is superior to the AR in my opinion, though.
The retractable stock is nice looking, makesthe weapon small if transported but very unpleasant to shoot. I would take it just for display reasons
Tbh in terms of ergonomics I g9 1: FAL, 2: M14, 3: Saiga (AK) 4: G3.
The reasoning is that ergonomics includes its manual of arms, and the G3 requires a lot of force to load compared to the other weapons. I love mine don't get me wrong but it is easily the most difficult of these to operate.
Lived in Georgia my whole life and it was nice seeing my friends from MB in this video. I’m there so often I might as well live there 😂 I love going there for the fun and weird firearms they always get in. Ben is definitely a great guy.
Yes I go there for the weird stuff too!
@@BattlefieldCurator absolutely love the place! I’ve been eying the C96 they’ve had in there for over a year now. Just unfortunate that I can’t afford it for the price they’re asking yet
👏💥HK-91💥👏
Planning to get an M77 in a few months. All are great options though but I love the AK platform.
What is the accuracy with Match grade ammo with m77
Amazed how light the views and likes are. Great video guys, Happy Holidays !
Definitely appreciate it! Happy holidays! 😁🍻
Should be noted that M1a has a heavy match barrel you can see the profile with the op rod to the rear. makes it 2lbs heavier than an M14 with a usgi barrel. That extra weight is also out front.
Yes it’s a Stainless Steel National Match barrel. Came from the factory like that, they discontinued it. The previous owner put a military M14 stock on it and changed the sights.
M1A SCOUT...18 INCH BARREL...ABLE " SCOPE" OR RED DOT.
The least mentally challenged m1a simp
COBBLES BORTHER
I have an inch pattern FAL and love it. The only issue I have with it is there no good way to put a scope on it and it tends to chew up my brass. Shot the M14 in the military, thought it was heavy and the action tended to pinch my little finger on my off hand. Just think if the US military had gone with the FAL but with an intermediate cartridge (not the 5.56 NATO) back in the 1950’s.
Yea an intermediate cartridge M14 would have been interesting. A polymer stock with pistol grip would have also brought it to be more like the AK and FAL
That m1a is probably the best sounding
You're missing the best of all by far: the NATO/Portuguese-model AR-10. Every unit that used the AR-10 in combat subsequently was issued either an FAL (occasionally) or G3 (usually), and to a man, they far preferred their ArmaLites.
308 win ( 7.62x51mm ) fun times !
FAL vs HK91 vs M1A vs Saiga All Great if built ( made ) correctly !
I have the FAL, M1A, and PTR-91. I like the FAL better because it's balance. The G-3 is by far Soldier proof but it does beat my face more. The M1A M-14 is a target rifle a true marksmans rifle with it's ergonomics. The FAL is my combat rifle.
Same with me....own all of them and like the FAL way better than the rest. I do have some "AR 10's" and AK's in 308 but that's not the subject.....
I have the same three 308 rifles as well as a 7.62x54r Vepr. Overall, the FAL fits me the best, while the M1A/M14 is a better target rifle. So same conclusion as you.
Honestly this is a tough choice but from my personal experience i would have to give it to the FAL. Though i have none of these on my channel lmao oh well
Personally i think the Garand is superior to each of these. Though it depends on perspective. The M14s gas system doesnt do it much justice and its mags are bulky and heavy, roller delayed G3 makes it recoil harsh a bit, and the FAL has its share of issues too.
The FAL is the best of the bunch, though I've not fired one, but I still love my HK91A3, which I bought new in 1984 for $750 (instead of the $1200 for the FAL). I've modified it slightly to be lighter and more ergonomic. It's so beautiful (though the FAL is a super-fox)! Still, it's been replaced in my "survival" arsenal with an IWI Tavor 7 and a POF Rogue. The HK91 recoil impulse is dragged out a bit by the locking roller design, so it pushes rather than kicks, but I've heard it can be kind of weird in full auto.
Nice!
UNCLE has HK91 back in that EARA BOUGHT IT NEW BACK BEFORE THEY WENT WAY UP IN PRICE HE PAID LESS THEN $500 NOW THAT GUN IS MORE THEN 4 TIME'S THAT the good old days before all the CRAZY BANS
No rifle cooler or Manlier than the Right Arm of the Free World.
Haha 😂 😂
308 galil AR,SIG 542, FAL Para Top 3 Post WW2/Cold War semi auto 308s
My first comment got yeeted some kind of way....?
Cool vid, was trying to let you know I live in your area and go by All American every now and then - I've got a pretty big collection of oddball guns if you wanted to do some videos on them and/or collab.
I guess RUclips didn’t take that first comment because I don’t see it.
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SAIGA 308 IS THE BEST, Of Course. Convert it and drop in an ALG trigger. Best Battle rifle, without question. Best all around, do anything rifle. Still affordable, though get one while you can. Prices are going up, with the ban and the new war.
M-14. or M1A (civie type)
How you pronounced Martinez hurt me inside. I mean you pronounced it right and wrong. When it’s someone’s name that’s correct, but the town is Martin-ez.
Glad you mentioned it! It’s kinda like the whole Ga-rand and Gahr-und thing. Martinez was founded by a Cuban plantation owner that settled there in the 1800’s. A post office was placed near his ranch and they called it Martinez. Well He was only here for about 11 years, so when he left, we would assume the correct pronunciation of the name left with him.
we're crown international/ stg 40 ?
Quisiera los tres pero en México no los podemos tener.
Bueno, en teoría sí podríamos tenerlos porque el calibre .308 es permitido para civiles. Pero al ser variantes de fusiles de asalto, se impide su venta.
Aunque hay algunas personas que tienen versiones legales tanto en .223 como .308
Germans got it right the first time 🇩🇪🇺🇸
The standard miss conception about the M14 is that it was all political. Not so. The design was based on the most likely threat to be faced and whare in that Era, the success of 20 years with the M1 Garand as well as the no significant value to adoption of a foreign design over our own proven platform. Both the M14 and M16 are still with us today for this reason. The weight and handling issues could have been easily been resolved with a different stock design and aluminum rather than steel magazines. The M16 should have been adopted to replace the M1 carbine rather than the main line service rifle. Problems with range and accuracy during the late unpleasantness showed that. The thinking of the time by the wiz kid thinking in Washington of the time was one weapon could replace all of the purpose built weapons in service. Periodically that lesson has to be re tought that. The notion that every NATO country should adopt the same rifles would never happen and isn't so today and there was no such need to do so. No weapon is perfect, they all had/have their issues and they all work well. I've often heard that there was no reason not to adopt the FAL. There really was no reason to adopt it over the M14.
FAL should have been adopted by the U.S. military, but the M16 turned out to be the real winner in the long run. The modularity changed everything.
modularity? there was no modularity back then for the M16, if Anything, the G3 would have had that even before the M16 but it didnt alter the course of anything.
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Take one into combat with the dirt, dust and shit that clings to everything and see how long you M1A keeps shooting.
It was from a bygone era and the design already obsolete by the time it was chosen.
Is that why the m1 Garand was reliable in the pacific and in the deserts of Africa
@@TexasNationalist1836 It was reliable "For it's day". I'm not an Anglophile snob, despite training in Cadets with the Lee Enfield and carrying an SLR in service; if I had been a WWII soldier and given the choice, I would have gone with an M1 Garand.
@@stevephillips8719 if it was reliable for its day in the jungles of the pacific to the sands of Africa to the muddy battlefields of Russia or France don’t you think it’s still going to be reliable in todays more industrialized age with less natural conditions like sand mud or jungle
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So the Saiga won, , , because its the loudest 🙄
I'm really sick of ridiculous questions and creators with an agenda. "Best" is, after all, subjective. Any of the three can even be OBJECTIVELY the best for a particular stated purpose or situation. For instance, if you're training a bunch of people, most of which have never fired a gun before, how to shoot and a LOT of them are recoil shy then the M14 wins, hands down. You can pick and choose situation for either of the other two the same way. Stick to compare and contrast and leave the "best" arguments for the bar where they belong.
On the range or in open field conditions where you can’t take a shot at somebody 3,4, 500 meters away, the M14 hands down. Fir every other conceivable use, the FAL hands down. The G3 is just ergonomically retarded and only exits because the Belgians told the Krauts to go screen themselves when asked if they could produce their own G1 FALs. The G3 was fielded out of spite and is inferior to the FAL in just about every conceivable way.
Yea neither of us really did like the G3 compared to the others
Show me on the doll where the G3 hurt you sweetie...
LOL.
not a 308, but equivalent power.
the BEST cold war era battle rifle is the french MAS 49/56.
FAL
you forgot sar 48 / cetme/
Well clearly the m14 is the shittiest rifle of them all
I’d put a Trump “wrong” gif here if it were possible…
@@CAMM14 id still wouldn't give a fuck, it wasn't a particularly good rifle
@@unclegee8434 everyone’s allowed to be wrong once in a while 😉
@@CAMM14hmmm let's see elaborate why someone would pick tha thing over a HK or FAL 😂😂
@@unclegee8434 because, ‘Murica
It is obviously between the FAL and the HK91 , the FAL is both heavy and poorly sighted, the HK91 has a less then desired trigger! For my money I will always go with the G3 (HK91), it's a riflemens rifle and the trigger can be improved!