Some ice cream ≠ 'ice cream' and I don't care
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
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They're not rocks! They're minerals MARIE!
lol, That was such an odd tangent of the show.
@@LDCantGame is it because minerals form into.... crystal formations? 😎
You get some minerals and then mix them together on your geological mixmaster and then, boom, rock.
DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?
😂
Neoplant is snakeoil. You would basically need 200+ plants, in a hermetically sealed room to have any difference in air quality.
Love Adam but yeah I was turned off by that. He’s criticizing the ethics of a guy doing clickbait but then he’s employing questionable ethics hawking a snake oil product in his ad.
Yes!
Complete pseudoscience. I'm assuming he knows better and doesn't see the harm in pushing it.
Still dissapointing.
@@pascal590 like, 95%+ of youtube sponsored products are not far off from fitting that "snake oil product" definition.
Yeah my bullshit radar was going off at my phone when that ad bit started, and its like a subscription lmao come on
disappointing*
reminds me of tom scott's video about chip shop 'vinegar' in the UK, legally it can't actually be called vinegar, and the product is sold as non-brewed condiment but neither the chip shop staff nor customers actually care about this, everyone calls it vinegar anyway
IIRC - it's because proper Vinegar ("Soured Wine") is made by taking wine or wine-like base and then aging and souring it to produce that distinctive tang.
the "Non-brewed condiment" that chippies use is made as such to avoid having even a trace of alcohol in it, for those to whom regular vinegar is haram (or their equivalent) because of the alcohol phase.
Boy do I miss Tom's video 😥 I'm very happy that he's moved on to doing more of what he loves, but those weekly videos were something I looked forward to for many years.
@@ElNeroDiablo honestly while the fact that it's halal is nice that's not the main reason it's used; non-brewed condiment is just used because it's cheaper
Pretty sure regular vinegar is considered halal.
@@kantaikessen3289 Not for all groups. some are extremely strict on "no alcohol!" in their food, even as part of a processing stage to a non-alcoholic end product (so no alcohol in dishes like Burgundy Beef even if it's cooked off to leave the flavour).
Didn’t expect to wake up to ice cream metaphysics today
It is 1am and I'm making ice cream by hand. What has my life become 😭
Metaphysics is philosophy, this is chemistry.
@@earlmcmanus194 The beginning of the video definitely is, at least in part, philosophy. Philosophy of language and the utility of restrictive definitions, perhaps.
Me too
i mean, this could also be ontology
The government says that's a mineral, not a rock.
And mega corps call those rocks as precious gems
Jesus Christ Marie! They're Minerals!
Nah a mineral is a single chemical species
It's a breaking bad joke 😂😂😂😂 @@divingstag
I want to explain why the plant doesn't work, I've seen my comments deleted, maybe I triggered auto deletion so I rephrase it:
This /idea/ of a filtering plant has been around, people tried to sell it to unsuspecting folks. But it doesn't work. the 30x more filtering doesn't mean anything, since normal plants barely filter anything, 30x more is still insignificantly small. This is included in the papers they cite (lol)
Also logically, in order to filter air you need the air to get it filtered. As in normal filters use a fan to move through the air, otherwise nothing would really happen. So if you don't feel a large amount of air magically moving around the plant, then it cannot do anything in a reasonable time, since the air won't be circulating to get filtered.
Also, if you want the pollution to go away when cooking, a way faster and better option is to open the window
your comment has not been deleted
@@higherquality The other ones, I think because I used the word "s cam", they got filtered instantly. I guess it's an anti-spam thing
@@ErnestoPresso I've seen a few noting that it's a scam without being deleted.
yeah or switch from gas to electric/convection, though that is easier said then done for many people. Really I think people should just have more indoor plants regardless
He randomly deletes some but not all, usually the longest ones. Wjy? Because you're the type to check and repost. You are being farmed for engagement, because the algorithm responds to all engagement, every comment, like, dislike. It's a minor form of rage baiting to trick you into making more comments.
And only deleting some but not all triggers the sheep into telling you that not all comments were deleted.
And it triggers the pedantic teachers like me, into explaining the algorithm.
We're all being farmed for engagement. This entire chain of comments proves why it works. It's a simple psych trick that farms three of the most common personality types.
Such is the paradox of clickbait. I want to engage to express my anger at misinformation, yet the act inadvertently boosts the content so more people see it thereby spreading the message. I dream of the day major algorithms recognize the difference between positive engagement and negative engagement.
They do know, Instagram has been putting their comments that get “ratioed” at the top recently because they drive engagement. They just want that because anger is good for business
seriously, just dont engage with clickbaiters and ragebaiters, they use your anger to boost their channel.
They probably already do, and negative engagement leads to higher screentime and thus more profit
I fear that major algorithms already *do* recognize the difference, but in optimizing for revenue positive and negative sentiment is less relevant than high versus low engagement.
The only winning move is not to play.
Well. Now I want Dairy Queen.
me too. just passed one too 🥲
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Culver's custard it 100000000000000000000 times better.
@@kellymoses8566 ever had freddys? 😭
That's what I was thinking
This is definitely one of my favorite videos of you based purely on the script. You not only corrected him, explaines the differences between "ice cream" and DQ, proved your point and explained why the original video is made that way but you also showed us exactly why this type of content works and how it can get us and benefit from us even though we don't enjoy it.
Masterclass of food science, food law, content creation and clickbait and ragebait on social media.
And even threw in a bit of his classic old school food preparation comparisons to illustrate the point. Like all his skills he's developed coming together for a really excellent video.
$140 for a plant is a new way to be told i’m poor god damn
Mhmm yes, plant with big leaf purify more air than plant with smol leaf. It's gonna be negligable anyway, but if you like plants, there's definitely a cheaper option that doesn't come with a bunch of unsightly plastic.
Lampshaded by Adam saying "it's the *exact same* plant I use in my greenhouse!"
Adams condescending sarcasm is always appreciated 😂
I know it's so masculine
@@LordOfTheReefer ???
True, I mean Adam may not be an antigovernment weirdo but... well I am.
Man woke up and chose violence
Condescension is never appreciated. I think he did a decent job not being condescending considering the whole video was about tearing his to shreds
reminds me of that rumor from back in the day that kraft singles were "1 molecule away from being plastic" like that sentence makes any sense whatsoever
My mom used to say the same thing about margarine.
@@ArloMathis people still do :D
i've read it in some comment no longer than a year ago
9:10 “machines that never stop mixing the ice cream”
McDonald’s Ice Cream Machine: allow me to introduce myself
2:00 You can't call something an 'Eagle Burger' if it's less than 50% eagle.
How much of a Girl Scout is needed for each Girl Scout cookie?
@@palmercolson7037 20%, same as the amount of baby you need to have in baby powder.
Fun Fact: There was an American Statesman named Larry Eagleburger :D
Eagles are still endangered I believe. So we shouldn’t really be making eagle burgers.
@@TheGuyWhoIsSittingactually eagles have recovered amazingly, and were delisted in 2007! Still wouldnt recommend burgerifying them for several reasons of course 😉
Re:Ad>> You need over +400 plants to barely sustain one human. So you need to maintain at least 14 plants. This product isn't worth the money.
This reminds me of a stop and go seafood restaurant I worked at a couple of years ago. Namely, we did not refer to our catfish as "catfish" on the menu, we called it "The Big Cat". This is because there are laws that dictate what can legally be called "catfish" in America, and the catfish we served there was Pangasius (a type of catfish) and sustainably farm-bred in Vietnam. As someone who's fished all my life there's virtually little to no difference between what we served and what is considered classified as catfish in America, it's like comparing the meat of a grizzly bear to that of a black bear, it's ultimately just bear meat at the end of the day. It's a law that's mainly a bi-product of upset fishermen getting outsold by farm-bred fish from other countries.
That's pretty funny. It's scientifically a catfish, but not legally.
I think this distinction is important. Idk if you know but there are genuinely people who eat catfish for this reason. They know that typically legal catfish is more local and they want to support that.
Fishermen and fish farmers are justifiably upset (as catfish is also frequently farmed in the EU and US) being undersold by an inferior, cheaper product. The cost savings come at the price of reduced regulations (in southeast Asian countries particularly), underpaid labor, habitat destruction and pollution etc. Not saying EU/US fish farming and fishing methods are perfect, but we certainly have more stringent regulations.
You eat bear meat? Fekin gross bro.
So legally speaking you were catfishing?
There's a certain level of irony in a video criticizing influencer clickbait being sponsored by and promoting an influencer clickbait product that doesn't work and helping them spread misinformation.
It's easy to get sucked into these scams though. Also didn't he explicitly say he wasn't criticizing clickbait because he does it himself?
yea that product threw me off. it feels like snake oil and it feels weird that adam is promoting it. surely ventilation like opening a window with a fan blowing out would be like 10,000x effective for indoor air pollution than a weird plant pot?
@@tophy9865 yeah, but he was also snarky enough about it that that doesn't seem to be the case.
@@imstupid880 Fair enough. I still think this is more a mistake born of haste and ignorance than malice. I don't think Adam is trying to peddle snake oil.
@@tophy9865 no, I don't think he did it out of malice either, he has a family he needs to support after all. But it doesn't change the fact that it is in a video of his and he has put his name behind it now. Which is why I called it irony, and nothing else.
That neoplant thing sounds like a megascam
Yeah, just buy an air filter
Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't work (For the record, I don't claim to know either)
@@GaboMcGamer It sounds a little too good to be true. Carbon scrubbing the air in a small room is difficult and you would need gallons of specific algea to do it in a time efficient way. It might be true, but there are legitimate reasons to doubt it.
@@GaboMcGamer99% of these types of health/wellness products are a scam and 97.5% of RUclips ad sponsors are promoting scams as well, so as a consumer it's much safer to assume this is thing doesn't do what they say it does without having to do research on it. If this really worked, we'd have learned about it through more legitimate means and it'd be sold in regular stores, not through the internet.
By the way, if you don't believe my numbers, do your own research and try to find out. Just because you can't find these figures doesn't mean they don't exist...
@@DatakTarr a small ozone generator might be enough, maybe. Big Clive loves those things.
That last part reminds me of a chart that was going around that showed that 1 bottle of soda was equivalent to 4 donuts worth of sugar, and someone replied with "My takeaway from this is that donuts are a lot healthier than I thought"
My takeaway from this... Ah Takeaway, maybe Pizza, or Kebab, no cream cake.😍😍
Sorry where was I?🤔🤔😊😊
the whole fiasco reminds me of the Oat "drink" debate in Europe.
For years, nobody gave a damn that Almond milk and Oat milk and any random kind of plant milk was called milk, but suddenly the dairy farmers all shit their pants and now everything has to be called Drink! Even comically in Germany, not "Getränk" which is the native word for a drink as in a beverage of some kind, but the English word "Drink." Because it doesn't fit the definition of milk... But apparently, Only when it's a food! Because every damn cosmetic that contains oat milk still gets to say "Hafermilch" but god forbid a carton on a supermarket shelf with a delicious oaty concoction says Hafermilch on it, that's a travesty! Great heavens, no, that's obviously Haferdrink.
Coconut milk gets an exception because it's been called Coconut milk forever, but apparently that doesn't apply equally to Almond milk, which was invented centuries ago and has been a milk alternative and called Almond milk all these hundreds of years. So no Mandelmilch in your coffee, only Mandeldrink!
Milk the unmilkable, drink the undrinkable! ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWA
Hey, coconuts are mammals, so it counts
While I totally get the frustration, I think in the case of coconut milk the distinction is that it's a totally naturally-occurring product; you slice open a coconut and there it is. Whereas with almond milk, oat milk, etc., there's a whole artificial process to create it. It makes a kind of sense to allow the former to be called milk and not the others.
Just put -Chata after it. Oat-Chata, Almond-chata.
@@GermansLikeBeerbut it isn't: the fluid inside a coconut is called Coconut water (Kokoswasser) and can be bought in boxes. Canned coconut milk and coconut cream (Kokosmilch) is a mixture of coconut, water, and sometimes emulgators and stabilizers.
The real ice cream were the friends we made along the way
This has "Old man yells at cloud" energy and I'm here for it
Sometimes it's the children who are wrong.
An expectation of honesty is "Old man yells at cloud" energy? If so, I weep for the future.
Imo it's old man yells at old man yelling at cloud.
I'm here for it.
Nah, it's the exact opposite.
Old? Not even close. Of course this is Adam's problem. He thinks he is old and over the hill. He said that basically yet he keeps proving that he was wrong.
The pedantry around "thats not _real_ cheese, that's not _real_ chocolate, thats not _real_ bread" has always been insufrable. If I hand it to you you're gonna call it bread, not a "bread-like baked dough"
the pedantry in terms of food quality makes me quite happy to live in a european country, where i know that my bread is not wonder bread, my cheese is made of milk by certain animals and my chocolate is not tasting of vomit.
sincerly,
a pedantic europoor
Let me guess, you also don't think a burrito is a real pizza just because they roll it up
Also usually has a bit of classism baked in “chicken nuggets are evil”…. But are cheap and easy to make for the working class poor… belittling the food usually is to make higher priced foods be “the good ones” so that the rich can look down on the poor while not actually getting them enough time and money to prepare the “good stuff”. Its dumb
@@LimeyLassenwhat?
If it's made of dough and isn't sweet, and isn't pasta, it's bread. Simple as. Although this gets muddy considering that U.S. bread is sugared to hell and back.
Our senses are dulled to it but give yourself a heavy dose of salt (like an unpleasant amount) or a good whiff of liver to reset, then smell some standard sandwich bread. Aroma of sweetened muffins, tastes like angel food cake. Europeans are right about our bread. They just are.
Soft serve stays on top
Girls don't like it soft.
The plant sounds like a scam.
indeed, ruined this video a bit
Yeah it seems unlikely to do much. 30x a regular plant, is probably still like 0.5% or something of what's needed to scrub indoor air.
@@OrigamiMarie yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking
On one hand that's totally what I thought, on the other hand 12:22 lol
@@OrigamiMarie time to buy 200 plants and a couple fans
Adam should change his username to Passive aggressive potted plant seller
0:54 Ironically, I have done exactly this. Last summer I worked for the geological survey of my province and we had a community outreach booth. We often encouraged the locals to bring different rocks they found, and showed them it under a microscope and told them about it.
Well one guy brought in a big heavy chuck of material that he was convinced was a meteorite and wanted us tell him how many hundred thousand dollars he should sell it for. We felt quite bad about having to explain that he had not only not found a meteorite, but that he hadn't even found a rock at all. In fact it was just a pile of slag waste that had been left over from a nearby mill.
In short, if someone with a degree about rocks that works for the government tells you that your rock is not a rock, it is probably worth at least listening.
That said, in this case whether it is ice cream shouldn't determine your love of it. Does it taste good? Is it safe to eat? Then enjoy it and stop worrying about what the exact name of it is.
The legal definitions come down to needing a frame work in which to deal with food fraud. Some producers if allowed would try to pass off adultered products as the real deal. It's for protecting the industry as a whole. Ice Cream and Ice Milk are spelled out in Canada for the reason you demonstrated. If you want an interesting story about government food regulations. Look up the story of why Toronto calls patties, Jamacian Patties.
Without such regulation, it’ll be a race to the bottom, in terms of using as little as the expensive ingredients as possible.
Where can we find the Toronto story? Google searches only suggest patty restaurants up there
@@ninjalectualx It's called Patty vs Patty on CBC. it's a short doc.
Fun fact: another reason mass market European chocolate can't be sold as chocolate in the US is it's been cut with vegetable oil. US government regulation specifies that milk chocolate may only contain dairy fat and the coco butter naturally occurring in the cocoa bean.
Italian gelato also can't be sold in the US as ice cream for the same reason that soft serve can't: insufficient fat content to comply with the minimum standards of the definition of the term.
I think it's a good thing that gelato is labeled and sold as gelato, and not ice cream.
@@DudeWithTheNoseJust had some terrific gelato this afternoon, I like gelato better than ice cream but I wouldn't say no to either. I agree with you, there is a benefit to calling it by a different name. Even though regular ice cream, gelato and soft serve are all in the ice cream family it's helpful to have different names to distinguish them.
I mean gelato is not ice cream
1:53 Ah yes, the DEPA RTMENT OF AGRICULTURE
i wonder what the leftover spray-paint said before it was removed.
There was a controversy over what could be called “mayonnaise”. My sister gave me some vegan “mayonnaise”, and it tasted less like real mayonnaise than Miracle Whip. By default, I think standards of identity are a fair compromise.
Is mayonnaise an instrument?
Miracle whip isn't mayonnaise, It's salad dressing, it even says it on the label
@@scott3805 Neither was that vegan “mayonnaise” actual mayonnaise.
@@scott3805 thank you.
@@tomhalla426 i've had NotMayo from Kraft-Heinz and it tasted satisfactorily like mayo to me (as a mayo lover). It's true that plant based mayos (and other plant based products meant to mimic products that traditionally had animal products) are quite varied in quality and resemblance to the "real thing."
In Serbian anything that is cold and sweet is called ice cream.
*Diogenes holds up a frozen sugar cube* "Behold! An ice cream!"
As someone who just finished licking some salted caramel vanilla balls in the centre of Belgrade... no it fucking isn't?
I am ice cream.
In Serbia.
Sitting in a park in Belgrade licking on some vanilla iced caramel rn. No it isn't. Ice cream is ice cream.
@@mbesham95 you'd be surprised, some ice cream in europe is almost that
The kerning on that Department of Agriculture building at 1:55 is just killing me.
yes thank you, im glad im not the only one to notice the atrocity 😢
Well, now that I've actually looked at it, I can't un-see it.
keming
let's hope it was built *before* the 1943 thing.
DEPA RTMENT
Love that we get this fact based video on food standards but a bunk and woo ad for a plant with VOC fighting power drops.
Adam out here telling Joey wellness to kick rocks.... OR ARE THEY ROCKS?
"HEY Vsauce, Michael here."
They're minerals.
I think whatever the product and wherever you are in the world, learning to read and understand the ingredients deck is an important skill for making buying decisions. Being able to instinctively know why it's not marketed as ice cream and what those added ingredients are doing is so useful. Ingredients are rarely simply "good"or "bad", but are there to enable manufacturers to hit price points which consumers are willing to pay.
Understanding ingredients and/or a touch of chemistry really helps so much. I got relatives who swear there's wood in cheese and cereal. ...They're talking about cellulose which is, yes, a major component of tree trunks (and paper, and toilet paper), but also...It's just a carbohydrate, a chain of sugars (this is why you can, technically, turn toilet paper into booze), and it exists in vegetables which are very definitely not made of wood. Same with the 'Margarine is PLASTIC!' crowd because 'Oh, it's one molecule away!'...Even if true, one molecule is a world of difference. Where that one molecule is attached, the specific bonds attaching it, at what angle...All of it matters. Steam and room-temp water have _zero molecules of difference_ (the former just has hydrogen bonds broken by heat) but nobody's out here like 'Just drink steam! No difference!' because steam is HOT. H3O is one molecule off from water but would deliver acid burns all the way down your throat. I've seen someone write a fearmongering essay against foods with "thiamine" in them...That's vitamin B1. People gotta get at least minimally educated 'round this blue marble 'cause this shit gets ridiculous.
@@nyanuwu4209 And since not everyone can be fully educated and informed enough to spot every potential harm in time to make it economically nonviable, we need reasonable government regulation.
Chocolatey chips are NOT chocolate chips
here chips are both crisps and fries.
Chocolate, chocolate USA, and chocolate CoNtExT are called chocolate.
we lazy and rely on context, confusion be damned
Even the most efficient of plants aren't nearly so good at purifying air as algae, and in order to negate *just* the co2 output of a single person you need a *ludicrous* amount of algae. I'm sure those neoplants probably do purify the air to some degree but I *highly* doubt a single plant makes any form of noticeable difference, and am far sooner to believe that it is some kind of placebo effect or just an odor that the plant or its symbiotes happens to give off.
what do they do with the volatiles even? plants get sick too.
Not to mention the source of those VOCs is the gas stove. Get rid of the gas, you get rid of the VOCs, no sponsor needed.
On a hot summer's day DQ soft serve is great. When I'm making a desert treat at home I want a high-fat ice cream.
Silicon Valley really found a way to make potted plants a subscription service
AND it doesn't even filter your air.
Sad to see Adam pushing it.
I tried using milk kefir, maple syrup and cherries. It kind of worked. 3 hours of manual stirring off and on created the somewhat ice cream texture, which was nice. Shame it formed into ice all over again when I left it in the freezer. I'll keep trying.
I understand the hyperbole but if the usgs says that rock is not a rock I'm inclined to take that at face value.
A rock is not Iraq.
Thanks for this.
I've been making fruit Sherbets(bats? berts?) mostly because you don't need to cook a custard, but also because the low fat content doesn't dilute or obscure fruity/spice-y flavours.
Meanwhile, Frozen Custard from Culver's would like a word....
From a personal point of view: I like really creamy ice-creams with low sugar content. Like the old days in Spain at the artisans shops.
There are two different base for ice-creams, one is the cream and sugar and the other is called mantecado which is the same but with egg yolks. (Yes, no fraking vanilla) and from that they did all of the other flavors.
Now all ice-cream is low fat higher-sugar kind and you cannot taste the milk any more.
I really appreciate the evolution of your postings.
I had been getting more and more concerned about your mounting tension a few months (? lost in covid calendar) ago. Your break away vid was a brave statement that struck home. It changed the way I engage with social media.
I look forward to being on the ride with you.
I really love your videos Adam, especially lately! Might be because I was afraid you'd stop uploading a while ago, but I don't think thats the main reason. I think it's just because your recent uploads been so good and maybe more genuine?
Hope you find/found a routine that that give you satisfaction and meaning so you can keep going many more years.
Love from Sweden
What is going on with Adam'a hair in this video
He's got Egon vibes going on.
As a veteran ice cream maker at home I will always say yes to any decent "frozen dessert" when I don't feel like making a mess in the kitchen.
Adam is a perfect representation of my ocd on life and stuff and I love it. Keep being yourself! Love your stuff and this new casual posting style of things you care about we'll always be here for it
I LOVE the little crunchy ice crystals that form in icecream. i wish i could figure out how to consistently get them
I guess you'd need it to leave it longer in the freezer or mix it more too
me too I like it icy! sometimes i prefer my own frozen hot chocolate to actual chocolate ice cream
Love your videos! Thank you so much for teaching me so much over the years!
1:00🍦 Oh Dairy, I Scream when he almost turned that laptop into a Mac-Broke!
I was worried for the table...
This is like a wonderful mishmash of all of your skills/styles in a single video. I liked it a lot.
I want Adam to do science on the Neo Plants now. I wanted to believe plants clean the indoor air, but then I thought sceptics were saying that claims were exagerated.
I think there is an inhetent importance of distinguishing between categoreis of food and for example having a standard of what icecream is.
Doesnt mean products not meeting the threshold are bad products. But they are different products and should have different names.
In the case of icecream it is nice to know that when I go buy it from a store, it is what it claims to be and that im paying for what I intend to buy.
Indeed, I worry about people who actively seek to undermine consumer confidence.
@@mzaite Adam isn't trying to undermine; he's saying that in his opinion and the opinion of others that consider DQ ice cream to be ice cream, the legal definition should not override their intuition of what is and isn't a product. If it looks like ice cream, feels like ice cream, tastes like ice cream... it's practically, functionally ice cream. The legal definitions help to make sure companies don't stray too far from whatever they're claiming their product is, so it is useful. But, as Adam says in his video, where you draw the line is arbitrary. FDA says 10% butterfat; but DQ shows 5% butterfat + other additives that act as stabilizers, flavor/texture enhancers also work to give the ice cream vibe.
@@cameronschyuder9034 The video does undermine it to a certain extent though. While I can understand the sentiment, peoples intuitions about food are often wrong. When I tried sorbet the first time I instinticly thought it was Ice cream, it looks like ice cream, feels like ice cream, tastes like ice cream... it's practically, functionally ice cream. However confusing icecream and sorbet could cause health concerns, it is important that sorbet is not icecream. To me it doesnt matter if i eat sorbet or icecream, or if i eat dq soft serve or icecream, however to some it might matter a lot when it comes to diet (diabetes, allergies etc).
Fearmongering "label" pedants really grind my gears... There's so much already going wrong in our current every day lives, and then we have Engagement Baiting Joey over here throwing even more red herrings to dilute discourse. I legit feel bad for my older aunts and uncles to whom the world must seem fraught with pitfalls around every corner, while at the same time missing the actual things they should have grievances on as far as impact to their quality of life is concerned.
Absolutely right
The entire world of dietary culture is basically just fearmongering and bandwagoning for influence. Remember how often they flip flop on basic foods? Are avocados healthy or unhealthy now? How about eggs? Seems like every few months we get some other "study" that flips the script yet again, taking health foods and making them bad and taking bad foods and calling them healthy. And every single article put out on the topic is there to drive *engagement,* not actual healthy decision making.
Pro tip; *there is no such thing as individually healthy or unhealthy foods.* There are only healthy and unhealthy *diets.* If you eat enough micro and macro nutrients in proper proportions, and do not consume too many raw calories, *you have a healthy diet no matter what you are eating.* I do not care if you are getting there by eating fast food and nutrient supplements, a healthy ratio is a healthy ratio.
Yes, it can be *harder* to get a healthy balance when you consume certain types of food as your staple, but that does not make the food itself unhealthy, just how your are consuming it. Having an unhealthy diet and trying to offset that by eating "health foods" can actually make the situation worse, as a calorie imbalance (surplus) is the number one driver of unhealthy diets in the western world today, even above nutrient deficiencies. The simple choice here is to *eat less,* not eat more (just "healthier").
But no one ever got the clicks by saying "lower your calorie intake for a healthier diet." People get clicks by saying "eat this magic health food to magically improve your over-all diet! It really works!"
In the UK what is and isn't a particular food can be quite important as it can effect how much sales tax (or VAT as it is known here) it attracts when purchased. There's the famous Jaffa cakes case.
I don't have liquid nitrogen at home but I sometimes have liquid Oxygen at home and that works just as well. I do gotta say the aromatics of food frozen in fridge, liquid nitrogen or liquid oxigen seams to differ between each other.
Liquid oxygen has some fire risk that you flat out don’t get with inerts like dry ice or liquid nitrogen. Be careful.
Love your content! Happy 4th of July
"But, isn't all food unhealthy? I've been eating lasagna and muffins everyday of my life for 40 years, and I feel terrible"
A huge focus back in 1990's Iowa before the education system went to crap was learning about the prairie and the pioneers that both came through and settled here. In third grade, one of the things we got to do as a reward was make homemade ice cream. Even the teachers at the time said "traditional" ice creams of the time had much more cream, and told us more than a few brands on the shelf and almost all soft serves were "ice milk" and not "ice cream". This same point was also stated by my counselors at my summer camp a couple years later when I found myself again making homemade ice cream in a gazebo because it was so hot that summer basically all daytime outdoor activities were canceled between 11 and 5.
Great video. Learned about ice cream making process, learned about how ice cream is categorized, and Adam provided some good info on how Joey could have done click bait but kept it honest and been more in line with his channel on nutrition
I'd go further and criticize Protected designations of origin (EX: Champagne must be from Champagne, France) for this even more then wider defintions like what counts as Ice Cream or Chocolate. As you say in the video, defining what counts as "Ice Cream" can still be pretty arbitrary, but at least it's based on some sort of consistent element of the food's components, even if more or less Cacao solids isn't objectively better or worse. But defining things based on specific regions of a country is even more spurious. I'd be interested in seeing studies comparing say 500 Champagne wines actually produced in Champagne, France, vs "Champagne style wines" from other parts of the world: I'd be willing to bet at at least some of the "Fake Champagnes" are chemically closer or taste/smell closer to a "True Champagne", then some of the "True Champagnes" are to each other.
The distinctions and definitions are there essentially to protect consumers and powerful enough corporations from those who would cheat people. Ever buy a product you thought was real only to find out it was a knock off? It's probably less impactful with food than, say, consumer electronics, but with things like food allergies and dietary restrictions due to moral or religious concerns, such distinctions aren't trivial. I for one am glad we have these distinctions. They don't stop you or me calling a sparkling wine champagne, even if it's made in California, or calling an aged cheese Parmesan even if it was made in Wisconsin and not Parma Italy. It's to prevent people from taking advantage of you by claiming they are and selling you said products at the prices authentic articles sell for.
in Australia, we have 7 classifications, 4 could be considered ice cream in different places around the world, maybe 5 if you include yoghurt
According to the Food Standards Code, the main classifications include:
Ice Cream: Must contain at least 10% milk fat and 20% total milk solids.
Ice Confection: A broader category that includes products like water ice, sorbet, and frozen yogurt, which do not meet the milk fat and solids criteria for ice cream.
Soft Serve: A type of ice cream that is softer and served at a higher temperature than regular ice cream.
Gelato: Typically contains less fat than ice cream and is churned at a slower rate, resulting in a denser texture.
Frozen Yogurt: Made with yogurt and sometimes other dairy or non-dairy products, often lower in fat than ice cream.
Sherbet: Contains fruit purée and a small amount of dairy, making it lighter than ice cream but creamier than sorbet.
Sorbet: Made from fruit purée and sugar, without any dairy
the ice confection label has been forced upon supermarket chains who have a watered down ice cream (can tell, it gets water crystals in your freezer) in last year or so (maybe longer)
Excellent descriptions!
I've never heard of that kind of sherbet. I always thought it was basically powdered sugar and an acid.
@@lihchong2267 yeah you rarely see it these days, I don't recall seeing it since 90s, but it's basically same vibe, only frozen
Interesting that sherbet contains milk, I thought sherbet and sorbet were interchangeable terms, though we don't use the term sherbet at all in the uk, at least not for anything cold. I've heard of sorbet with milk called "sorbetto" in some hip places in the UK.
@@catbat06 yeah a lot of people call them sorbets, there's not a great deal of difference in the appearance from memory. just less like a fruity sweet ice, having a little more fat in it, but still has some crystallisation, I remember it being like a gelato and a sorbet were accidentally combined, in the texture
Adam you should try experimenting with ice cream stabilizers and emulsifiers, its really opens a lot of doors for low fat ice cream
Profoundly entertaining, Adam. Good work.
but adam, that isnt a rock, it is a crystal
My favorite version of this is "wings" vs "wyngz".
The Ninja Creami is a device that people often use to do just that! A low fat ice cream, stabilized using gums and whey (often protein powder), that is whipped into an ice cream consistency. It’s huge in the fitness community to make low calorie, high protein ice creams but I’m having trouble finding recipes. I don’t trust most gymbros to have good taste in desserts, so I’d love a food RUclipsr’s take on it! It would be cool to see how different gums and proteins (whey vs. caesin for example) could affect the product and I’d be interested in the cool flavours you come up with!
i think adam have thoroughly and concisely summarized and with example what annoys me with online discourse (tm) in a way that doesn't stoop to the level of such discourse. For me particularly i dislike how some people have a blind hatred towards any company or other form of organized group whether it's for profit or not
I have issue with "Frozen Dairy Treat" being mixed in with the standard ice cream at the grocery store, I don't always have my reading glasses.
It’s good for a central body like the government to label foods so that corporations don’t abuse terms to mislead consumers. Call it whatever you want but corporations will try to sell you one thing when it’s really something you didn’t want. Very important distinction to have.
As a beekeeper who prides himself on selling the most pure, unadulterated, raw honey possible, I'm glad for some definitions. It gives us a legal backing when some numpty decides to pass off dehydrated sugar water as "natural honey".
@@guitarstitch also why I like to buy as much local goods as possible. Least likely group to screw consumers. Keep up the honest work!
I heard Neopets when adam was saying Neoplants while i was just listening to this video and i picked up my phone so quick to see what come back Neopets was trying 😂
This style is exactly why I subbed 5 years ago. Glad to see its not gone.
Adam enters his anarchism ark
We'll get him one day
Not to be confused with his communism catamaran
@@dontgetgrabbed or his postmodern pontoon
"I accept that governments have to exist for the most part" is not a quote from an anarchist. Maybe we read into the video a little differently lol
This is the sassiest DQ ad I've ever seen.
What a fantastic video. Thanks as always, Adam
I've been making ice cream in the Creami with 2% chocolate milk and a scoop of caramel flavored protein powder. 1 lite ice cream cycle, 1 re-spin. Great taste, great texture.
drunkenly flopping into bed to see a fresh ragusea on my porch is sofgoood
This is not a distinction about what something is, just what you choose to call it. You know, semantics.
In most sane countries the legal definition for what something is called aligns somewhat with what people choose to call things. In most countries some official body generally has some sense of control over their official language and dictate correct spellings of things, this is not a bad or unusual thing.
And American chocolate is generally tasteless and terrible, that is why it's not called it chocolate. It has no flavor because it is cheaper to produce and the market lacks fair competition from real products, not because it is some weird quirk like "oh vi had to put vheat in ze beer and it actually tastes bezzer" or even like how American sodas contain corn syrup because it's cheaper, but Americans now actually seem to genuinely prefer it in blind taste test, it's just worse.
I thought that was YOU in the thumbnail XD
0:55 Well, if it was hank schader, In that case i would accept a government agent telling me that it isnt a rock
Interesting video to watch amidst the death of Chevron deference. Now we'll be even less confident that those government definitions hold up over time.
There will be no more frozen dessert, or chocolatey beverage, and people craving comfort and simplicity will rejoice over their favorite ice cream made of corn and chocolate milk made of oil.
I think it's important to pay attention to things labeled like something. The amount of times I have seen coffee creamers with more vegetable oil than milk in it. Some names have protected definitions and it's up to you if the formal requirements of a term are suitable for your standards. A lot of them are not.
EU's restrictions on "Extra Virgin Olive Oil" are very strict and what I consider ideal, while in the US you can get away with cutting it with old olive oil, refined to remove the smell and still sell it as "Extra Virgin Olive Oil". That's why if you care about olive oil quality in US you have guess and take hints like Single vs Multi-Origin.
The first time I looked at the ingredients on "creamer" I immediately switched to oat milk
Oh you mean Coffee Tan-er?
It's there to cover up the fact that american coffee is just sad brown hot water.
@@LimeyLassen So you traded one plant fat for another.
Absolutely, I want the official names and definitions as strict and clear as possible, in normal life I can then call it what I want.
One of the best soft serve ice creams I’ve had is from a place called Jenn & Larry’s (yes I think a play on the comparable big brand) in Stratford Ontario. The ice cream tasted almost like a soft serve whip cream that they had many flavours and you could add many things to their take on a Blizzard. It would be interesting to see the difference between one like that and one like the big brands Dairy Queen and McDonald’s soft serve ice cream.
I love this Adam info and energy. I truly hope that you are feeling better ❤
Bad video, but at least you were def aware of it at the end
Government experts and scientists...ahhh I remember those days😑
I'm glad to hear that Gelato is becoming more common over there too. It's dense, lower in fat and still very smooth, but does require to be eaten much sooner due to it forming crystals. After you develop a taste for it, it does tend to make normal icecream taste very sticky/fatty.
(The proper stuff keeps only a few days before the texture changes. Makes it a bit more expensive to make but also means it tends to be better quality.)
The use of soft serve as an example is only one side of it. There are tons of intentionally misleading "ice cream" products out there. Recently I had a prepackaged ice cream(frozen dessert) cone that looked nearly identical to the good quality ones, but didn't taste very good. So the only way to tell which ones are decent are to look for specific brands or ones labelled as Ice cream.
great video markiplier
Damn adam, you're looking great!
I love when Adam shows off his jounalism skills
I feel like this will be one of those videos that Adam will look back on and regret making. It's informative yet passive agressive and condescending.
"What if the government says this isnt a rock?" is one of the silliest strawmen I've ever heard
You ever gonna write the orange chicken recipe in the description of that video
I'm honestly glad we have some regulations and definitions of what a certain food is; there aren't the same standards in Mexico and most "ice cream" (and most dairy products for that matter) are really vegetable oil substitutes that taste off at best. You have to look high and low for actual dairy ice cream, cheese, whipping cream, etc.
(Cf. The Jungle by Upton Sinclair)
"Do you allow the federal goverment to dictate your definition of reality?"
Well ... for some people, when they dictate the right stuff, like vegan food names, then they absollutly do. But then on other stuff they go bonkers, because how dare xD.