Dragonflight Fire Mage Review: Sunfury & Frostfire Wishlist for The War Within
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- Dragonflight is coming to a close, and The War Within is close approaching in World of Warcraft! Let's consider how Hero Talents and other potential changes may shape Fire Mage in the years to come. OPEN FOR MORE INFO↧↧↧
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00:00 Introduction
01:00 How was the Dragonflight Talent System?
02:27 Sun King's Curse (or Blessing)
04:15 Time and Temporal Warp
05:45 Dead Talents for Fire Mage
06:21 Buff Juggling as Fire Mage
07:32 Flamestrike Issues
08:22 Fire Mage Hero Talents
09:04 Sunfury Hero Talents Speculation and Wishlist
10:13 Frostfire Hero Talents Speculation and Wishlist 
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Overall I'm (mostly) happy with the design of Fire currently and cautiously optimistic about Hero Talents. What do you think of the Hero talents coming in The War Within? I want to hear your theories!
Note: Accidently added titlecard for Frostfire twice, so I blurred it for the Sunfury portion.
For Flame Strike, no idea why they limit it so you can't make an @target macro for targetted spells and have it cast around the current target
Agreed as an ele shaman with earthquake. Also, it prevents that weird camera thing in tight halls where you put your ability on a ceiling because some stupid hall lamp clipped the reticle circle
yes need a fix for this
At this point I will "cheat" to find a script that automatically and instant move my mouse to target lol.
I don't want to cheat but I simply want convenience and ground target ability are annoying inside rotate, especially for fire mage since you spam the hell out of it
SKB made me switch my main from mage to Devoker.
I also dislike Phoenix Flames, its such a slow spell which makes gameplay even more slower than it already is with SKB.
BfA Firemage was just way more fun to play with Mechagon Bracers, even thou we were pretty much useless for 100seconds without Combustion.
Happy you keep sharing this content for mage.
great Video covered alot of my gripes with the spec specially with the dead talents i was hype to try UI because i was a bigger fan of huge combusts less often and not this whole mini combusts all the time thing but the talent was just never tuned close enough.
Yep, it needs some work.
I started playing mage a few weeks ago and really fell in love with the class. I would love some cool spell combos with frost and fire maybe freeze enemies and break them out with a big pyroblast for giga burst dmg. Pretty Hyped and nice video :D
Fire atm is a pain to main. You are tied to 2 builds mostly in pve, ignite and flamestrike. Ignite lacks in output as you are tied to the dot spread with a limit of 5 and further spread requires wasted Fire blasts to copy the dot. Flamestrike provides an above average output and somewhat sustained, but what you mentioned with the pointing macro is hindering and annoying. They could make Flamestrike castable tap target vs placed aoe with a talent for it. As for a third build concept they could try something with ph flames and meteor spams on top of clones casting them as well. Mages aelre lacking overall in builds variety ( frost with thermal and glacial, fire with ignite and flamestrike, arcane with orbs and radiant ).
Coming from Frost Mage - I'm mostly just hoping that Frostfire is something original and unique like you mentioned (spellcombos/etc potentially) and not just add fire DoTs to frost spells, and adding frost slows to fire spells.
Overall for Mage not just Fire - I hope they look at some dead talents on the class tree, and either do away entirely with temporal warp or make it a separate button (preferably the latter). The talent feels really bad on fights you don't throw it on pull, and for M+ it gives the added pressure of ensuring your cd's lineup with the CD.
Really good video. I agree with most points brought up!
I have to say though, Anasterian Sunstrider embodies the concept of "sunfury" way better than Kael'thas does. As for frostfire I hope it just creates a hybrid between fire & frost mage like it does in Wrath. Although I think it'd be too OP, but giving fire mage some of frost's passive AoE slows could be some really cool way to add a lot of flavour to the spec. Maybe it could give frost some form of frostfire ignite as well? Not really sure how it'll work.
The most important part imo is alternatives to SKB. I hated this talent/legendary from the moment we got it and we never went back after this. I really hope we get some fresh ideas or at least more options cause fire has remained alsmost unchanged to its basic playstyle for almost 2 expansions now
Is it maybe time to bring back combustion of old as a choice node?
It used to be to powerful on the top end while being underwhelming for lower level players. But as a choice it should be fine.
Also people are just better now.And burst AoE is a useful niche
Genuinely don’t understand why Fuel the Fire isn’t just a baseline thing. It’s so awkward playing Fire in low keys/tyrannical weeks
Give me the ability to shatter with pyroblast and I am sold on frost fire being Goated for fun
another annoying thing about fire is how extremely uptime (SKB and unleash inferno both punish downtime absurdly) and tank dependent it is, the fact that the best mages in the world are usually playing with god tier tanks create a synergy overload, that 95% of the playerbase wont ever witness during their gameplay, blizz needs to remove flamepatch or change it, so flamestrike applies a dot on all targets hit by flamestrike instead of that crappy groundeffect, especially annoying during kiting and sanguine weeks or general repositioning...fire is currently much more enjoyable, than at the beginning of DF, but still blizzard has a lot of trouble balancing fire in m+ and raid, PI, blessing of summer and aug make it even worse, killing parses, compareability and fair balance within the class itself.
The flamestrike button obviously needs to be buffed, my sims 487 fire mage in 5-10 targets is 50k+ less than ignite build, not to mention the difference in ST damage of 20k dps! So the flamestrike button simply does not exist in the game, this build is not competitive. Also not a word about the "good design" of ST build, when you take absolutely useless in ST scenario abilities such as living bomb, which you just do not use, is this a good design of the talent branch? You just throw away 2 talents that are completely useless in ST to take meteor. I'm not even talking about annoying little things like the long animation of the phoenix flight, that just doesn't match with dynamic playstyle of a fire mage
P.s Just to give you an example, I've been playing exclusively on the fire mage specialization for about 7 years, the best I could give in a flamestrike build, in a conditional atal dazar, is 250k overall, but usually it's somewhere around 220k while on a WW monk, which I've been playing for 2 weeks, I can give easy 270k+, with some mistakes with rotation, so I don't know what you're talking about when someone says. "you can play in a flamestrike build" bcz flamestrike build now feeling like C tier spec
I hope sun kings blessing is removed it's just not fun to sit there and hard cast pyro blast so often
deep freeze much pls