ShockStop Seatpost Installation & Setup
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- Опубликовано: 27 окт 2019
- Detailed walkthrough of the setup and installation of the ShockStop Suspension Seatpost. This video focuses on the setup and install for the Standard ShockStop post but much of the info is relevant for the ShockStop PRO seatpost. If you have a ShockStop PRO post fast forward to 6:55.
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This video was so helpful! Easily installed it myself and have been loving it! Huge relief for someone with spinal injuries who hasn’t been able to ride for 2.5 years. Thank you!!!!
I installed the seatpost couple days ago and rode to work in Seattle. Very easy install with the video instructions. The ride was noticeably more comfortable overall and even during hard pedaling, I didn't notice a significant drop in efficiency.
The weight sacrifice is nothing compared to the comfort gained with the seatpost. So far so good. Will see if the clamps keep the seat in the same position!
Thanks for these instructions, received mine yesterday. Set the pre-load as instructed and took it out for a test ride. So far I really like it, subtle yet an obvious upgrade on comfort, takes the edge off of bumps etc. I ride as I would normally by using my legs as suspension for hard bumps etc, but find riding on the saddle is smoother, less jarring. I'll be playing with the pre-load to keep it within a comfort level I like without bottoming out. Very satisfied with performance so far and worth the investment for me and the kind of riding I do. FYI, I ride a Black Mountain Cycle Monster Cross, it's my go to bike for a variety of terrain I ride in N. California. A word to the wise, no I don't use for down hill mountain biking, the seat post is not made for that.
Hi Bob - thanks so much for the feedback and really glad that it is working out so well for you! Let us know if you ever need anything - thanks!
I just installed this seatpost on my allrounder bike and what an amazing product. I really didn't expect it to be that comfortable.
My bottom is forever grateful. Can't wait to get them in my mailbox.
just about the best how to video ive seen
thanks
I purchased the stem and seatpost. The instructions were simple and the seatpost was simple to install. I am running the extra springs and #3 preload. I tried max pre-load would launch me out of the saddle. The lowest setting was too soft for me, middle of the road was perfect. The stem and seatpost are excellent and make the bike much more comfortable. Very pleased with the design and quality of the products. 👍👍
bought one... installed it but seat angle was wayyyyyyyyy off. Wrote to redshift about it ---- THEN ---- found this video. Thanks for the instructions in detail as to how to change the seat angle because that was the only thing that had me puzzled. Great seat.. plenty of flex adjustments no matter what your weight is. MAN I COULD NOT BE HAPPER RIGHT NOW! Keep up the great work Redshift! Your creations and hard work designing this king of stuff for people of all ages is well appreciated. As far as some of the comments below comparing full suspension bikes to rigid frames using Redshift suspension items... I would say 99% of all bike owners have rigid frames thus making redshift suspension add-ons a more then sensible way to go if ya love to ride but don't want to rattle your brains or loose your teeth along the way.. Hats off to Redshift!
Very complete and helpful....Thank you
super helpful! cant wait to take this on the road and trails!
Thanks Chris, can't wait to see what you think! Enjoy and thanks for all the support!
Truely a Game Changer on my 2017 Specialized Sequioa Elite, I live in Michigan with the worst roads in the country, right now gravel roads are frozen so they won't be graded until spring, it's something like riding in a mine field. I've had the stem for a year, its GREAT,. I have well over 100 miles on the seat post now, it just works, never bottomed it out, I'm just over 200 lbs.. I thought I would be bottoming it out, 2 springs, 2 turns, never had to readjust, just followed instructions. I ride outside all winter, I have a gravel race 3/15, thats in snow, ice, mud, never know, I'll be ready for it this year. Redshift will improve my time, and make it easier on this old body, plus I'll be in better shape cuz' I'm riding more then ever, and enjoying it more.
I'm having a hard time riding any of the other bikes I have now, I may have to get more Redshift stuff, the Fat Bike is brutal, people walk/run on our groomed snow MTB trails, leaving post hole type dents, Redshift may fix that, my city bike (Dutch Workcycle Opa Fiets) is sitting, I just ride the gravel bike with the Redshift stuff on it to do errands.
Installed mine yesterday. As a mechanical dufus, I learned to tighten the seat rail bolts a little bit each. Tightening one too much by itself resulted in upsetting the angle of the seat. Finally got it dialed in. Most comfy.
Happy you got this one worked out! You are exactly correct that tightening each bolt a little at a time is the best way forward. Enjoy your smooth ride!
Excellent guide!
Thanks! We are also always here to help - we can be reached at support@redshiftsports.com
Thanks man, worked like a charm.
Glad we could help!
Bought mine from a guy who big a wider aperture than 27.2mm. Lucky me, unused and on sale. Arrived by post this morning and already installed. Looking forward to today's ride. Hopefully over the next week a friend will help with a video and I'll send it. Btw, had to buy one of these, but even the bike store where I bought my Cube hardtail ebike don't stock 'em. If you've ridden the footpaths here in ACT Australia , you'll know why hardtails aren't the best for commuters.
Although at 9:28 the instructions indicate to insert the seat post with subsequent discussion about loosening the nuts and attaching the saddle between the clamps, my clamps were stuck together. And I found it easier all around to work with the seat post / clamps, attach the saddle, and perform initial tightening of the bolts prior to inserting it. Then once inserted, adjustments were easy.
Thanks for this informative video. I have to mention, however, that the looping music is too distracting during a technical description. Just so you know. Excited to install your tech on my bike tomorrow. Thanks for innovating.
thanks for the feedback - much appreciated and hope you enjoy the stem.
Great video, the setup is well explained but the background 'music' is very distracting. Thanks for the tips!
Thanks for the feedback about the background music, Glen! Take care and enjoy!
Nice clear video. But, to be honest, fitting one of these is super easy.
I have the original model with the springs and it's been fantastic. The Pro model is a little lighter, but I think the springs (rather than elastomers) are easier to fine tune to my weight and riding style. It doesn't bob. Just soaks up the road buzz and takes the edge of the bigger bumps.
I didn't notice how much of a difference it made until I removed the ShockStop post when I was changing saddles and went back to a rigid post. The difference is very noticeable.
Thanks Brain - so glad you are enjoying your seatpost!
(This relates to the Redshift suspension seatpost ONLY, not the stem) ..after installing the suspension seatpost and riding a bit I notice when going over multiple bumps like over grass and light gravel my handlebars are still jumping all over the place yet my butt is staying perfectly still. Just amazing how well this suspension seatpost is designed. I'm literally hunting down multiple bumps now where as before I'd just about kill myself trying to avoid them. Watch.. next week the rest of my cheapo ebike will probably break into pieces but at least I'll go down in fashion! Ha
Nice, clear instructions. Thank You. Just received my post and will install tomorrow.
Regarding the saddle clamp making contact with the linkage at 13:22, is that a common problem or only if you have the saddle at a ridiculous angle?
Thank you for the instructions. I hope, the ShockStop doesn't disappoint after years of use of ThudBuster LTs, a month of use of a ThudBuster ST until some stray plebeian stole it - and a few months with the bySchultz v2.0 LT and an occasional recourse to using the SunTour NRX. The ShockStop is obviously the most expensive of the lot; at least, it's lighter than the SunTour and the bySchultz - not unimportant, either. Am yet to ride it; the proof is in the pudding.
Have you tried it by now?
@@joskoevoet9569 Not yet. It has been installed, but I haven't come to ride the bike yet. Will install mudguards first, then have a go at it.
However, I do like its tactility: its rebound quality is more immediate and springy than a ThudBuster ST's I have setup another of My gravel bikes with.
I will report after installing mudguards and giving it a ride.
@@joskoevoet9569 I've done a few short test rides since my reply to your enquiry. My verdict is: it's very comfortable. It doesn't bob about as much as, say, ThudBusters (and, in particular, the LT version) do. The ShockStop suspension is very smooth (yet tactile): based on my limited experience with it so far, I'd rate it slightly higher than anything else I have ridden, including various ThudBusters (LT and ST), a by.Schultz LT v.2.0, the SunTour NCX.
I must admit that the very affordable, but heavy, NCX on a girlfriend's bike (set up for ca. 85kg, ca. 20-25kg. below my weight at the time) felt similarly comfy, though, understandably, less firm (as it was dialled in for girlfriend's weight) and more prone to bobbing. The SunTour is ca. 200-300 grams heavier (and from some accounts online, the saddle rails tend to abrade the saddle clamp if outfitted with a softer spring than recommended for your weight. Still, overall reviews are very positive, as was my empirical impression.
Upon the other hand, the max. load limit recommendation of a mere 110kg for the ShockStop is probably a compromise too many (I'd rather that it weighed 50, even 100 grams more, but had a higher load limit - day, 130kg or more). Obviously no issue for people naturally disinclined to weight gain, but for many, myself included - the weight limit is frustrating (when out of shape, I'm right above the 110kg. weight limit).
Overall, I'd say yes - if you're a sub-110kg rider, and mind outfitting your bike with a heavy suspension seat post - yes, I'd absolutely recommend it: it has the best comfort and efficiency of all suspension seatposts I have tried (mind you, I have no experience with the Kinekt / Body Float).
That said, €225,- for a suspension seat post, in my opinion, is quite excessive.
To summarise: if you're on a quest for the best, the ShockStop (and probably the BodyFloat - I can only guess) is the best one currently available: it's relatively light, has a relatively long travel, feels very smooth (more than any other I have tried to date - like the SunTour, but better!), but isn't nearly as rugged as the lamentably heavy by.Schultz (which, clearly, appears neither as smooth, nor as efficient, based on my 3 months worth of riding experience with it) or even Thudbusters (they bob about more and aren't quite as smooth, although are still better than no suspension at all) and costs half an arm and a leg.
I'll report more after more extensive testing.
@@LeoInterHyenaem thanks for sharing your experiences!!
@@joskoevoet9569 Your welcome, Jos. I hope to ride ca. 35km today (unless interfere). I'll use the ShockStop and report.
It appears there has been a significant design change to the saddle rail system from a year ago. It looks like a standard setup.
Hi Tom - yes, we made changes to the saddle clamp because we were not satisfied with the performance of the single bolt clamp in terms of saddle tilt adjustment and the torque required for a good hold on the saddle. It is pretty much the same size but just a different mechanism.
hello. What tyres are you using for that bike please? Vittoria Terreno dry 2.0? thanks
I see that you have the Terreno tires. How do you like it?
Are they square-dancing behind that wall? I can certainly hear something..?
I have an Aventon Aventure with a 6061 Single-Butted Aluminum Alloy frame. What grease would you recommend to install the seatpost? Would a White Lithium Grease or Silicone Lubricant be sufficient? Thanks
Hi Steve, great question! Any grease that is reasonably thick should work perfectly. The real goal is to reduce the possibility of seizing by preventing the chemical interaction between post and frame. A coating of white lithium grease should be more than sufficient for the job. Thank you and take care.
I’ve got a giant tcx slr 1 with a Giant D-Fuse, composite seat post I’m wounderimg if you know if the shock stop would fit this thanks
Hello - Giant does make a few models now where the d-shaped post can be replaced with a standard round post but I am not sure exactly which models this applies to - I would reach out to Giant to ask if this is the case for your bike and if so you are all set. If the d-shaped post cannot be replaced with a round post then unfortunately the shockstop will not fit with your frame. Thanks!
The video didn't mention what torque the saddle clamp bolts should be tightened to
Just checked instructions and it says 6 N-m, do not exceed 9 N-m
When I apply the paste, should I cover the whole surface of the seapost (that is going to have contact with the tube)?
My original one seems to only have a few spots that are covered. Going to be doing the swap for my first time so had to ask.
Excited for you to ride with the post. As far as the amount of paste needed - generally people do a nice thin layer on the portion that will be inside the seat tube but since there is not much gap it will move around a bit and spread as you insert the post - as long as you get a reasonable amount you should be all set. If you have any additional questions you can also always reach out directly to us at support@redshiftsports.com. Thanks
@@Redshiftsports Appreciate the prompt response!
I'm very excited for it! I'm currently dealing with a disc prolapse and can hardly ride my Orbea Alma XC as it is right now..
Seems to help others with similar problems a lot, so I have big hopes on it!
Btw ordered one for my gf as well, since she has hip dysplasia it should also be very helpful to her.
@@POW9R Happy to help and hope you both love the seatpost and it helps a lot!
What kind of grease are you supposed to use on the seatpost? And what kind on the parallelogram part?
Thanks for the question. You should not use any lubrication on the pivots - they are designed to run dry and adding lubrication can shorten their life. For grease, you can use any suspension specific grease - something like slickoleum is a good choice.
@@Redshiftsports Thanks. For the post, could I use silicon grease? Good enough?
I installed the Shockstop seatpost with a shim that is 60 mm (2.4 inches) in length while your RUclips video recommended the length to be 100 mm (4 inches).
How critical is it for the length of the stem to be 4 inches? Do I need to remove the 60 mm shim and replace with a 100 mm shim?
Hi Steve - thanks for the question. We always recommend using shims that are ~100mm because that ensures enough overlap between the shim and the post and the section on the seat tube where clamping takes place. It is possible to get some strange forces if you use a shorter shim but it depends a lot on the specific geometry of your frame. Shims generally cost about $10-15 so if its possible to swap to one that is in the 100mm range that would certainly be better. If you wanted to review any of this in more detail with us shoot us an email to support@redshiftsports.com and we can dig deeper - thanks!
I installed on an Aventon Aventure if that helps. @@Redshiftsports
@@stevesultemeier4475 I am not that familiar with the Aventon frame to say if the 60mm shim is ok but you could reach out to Aventon and they would be able to give you some good input. And if they don't have any additional info then best to swap to a 100mm long shim. thanks
How critical is it to use a torque wrench to tighten the bolts? I see its a warning in the instructions but I wouldn't believe everyone has a bike torque wrench. If it is critical, where can one purchase a reasonable priced torque wrench like you have in this video? Thanks
Hi Steve - thanks for the question. It is important to match the torque spec on pretty much all the fasteners you have on your bike - this really does prevent things from slipping and makes sure that nothing is over-stressed as well. So, its pretty important - but the good news is that there are lots of reasonable priced torque wrenches that are absolutely accurate enough for everything on the bike (including the seatpost bolts). You can find some good quality torque wrenches and torque keys on the major bike ecommerce sites and amazon for $20-40. Hope that helps! And if you need any additional support email us at support@redshiftsports.com. Thanks!
@@Redshiftsports I'd appreciate your recommendation of a reasonably priced torque wrench that will work with bike hex wrenches. Thanks
@@stevesultemeier4475 Not sure if you saw my previous reply but there are a lot of good options on competitive cyclist, backcountry, jenson, amazon, and your local bike shop. We recommend getting some that can go down as low as 1.5-2 Nm and up to 20 or 25Nm should be fine for almost everything on the bike. And feel free to email us at support@redshiftsports.com with any additional questions. Thanks!
Is this video also accurate for the new « Pro endurance » seatpost?
Hi @patgregoire1 - this video is pretty accurate for the new PRO Endurance post. Since it uses the same pre-load adjustment as the Endurance post all of that is the same. The only real difference from a user standpoint is what is inside the post and what one might swap in and out in terms of springs and elastomers - but the detailed info on that can be found in the paper instructions. If you have any specific questions or need any help you can always email us at support@redshiftsports.com - Thanks
I broke the rubber ring for fender, looked on redshiftsports.com but its not available. How can I get a new one ? Would the magnet be strong enough to keep it fender secured ?
Hi - please email us at our support email which you can find on our website and we will help you out right away - thanks
@@Redshiftsports Thank you. I had emailed you guys and a new rubber ring has been sent to me. Thank you so much. Great customer service!
Can the seatpost take a di2 battery ?
You bet! All you need to do is grab out Di2 Battery holder! You can check that out here: redshiftsports.com/products/shockstop-seatpost-di2-battery-holder
How is the Di2 batter going to work with this?
Hi Jim - the Di2 battery fits inside the lower spacer and can go through the pre-load plug. We have a Di2 mounting kit that includes a couple parts to make it fit securely. If you need more info email us at support@redshiftsports.com - thanks!
@@Redshiftsports I think I had ordered a Di2 adapter early in the Kickstarter. But then there was an update saying it wasn't necessary? Or did I misunderstand that?
@@jimhansen5395 we actually were able to integrate the Di2 mount into the post so we refunded anyone who ordered it because it was no longer separate parts (as we had originally planned). Now the Di2 mount is just some hardware to allow a secure fit for the battery. If you need one just email us at support@redshiftsports.com and we can get one to you.
2:05 in instructions it is TOTALLY DIFFERENT
That is correct @user-gm8ll5hs4x - this video was made 4 years ago but we updated the guidance on springs and tuning more recently to try to make it a bit more clear. Also, if you have a PRO seatpost then the whole setup is completely different you can check out website for the most up to date videos: redshiftsports.com/pages/faq-instructions - thanks
do you happen to know any suspension seatpost that can fit an arro shape seatpost. im so desperate
Unfortunately, I am not aware of any that work with non-round seat tubes. Sorry about that.
@@Redshiftsports thank you for responding. i appreciate it
Too late for now that I've spent the money, but the seatpost is too wide to for my bike! Make sure you check the size of your current seatpost as the size needs to be 27.2 or BIGGER! My Rocky Mountain Hammer seatpost is 26.8 and will not fit. Bummer. I figured it was a standard fit. Wrong. I don't think there's any remedy.
Redshift? Anything I could do? Thanks.
Hi Gustavo - please email us at support@redshiftsports.com if you have not already done so - thanks!
Will this accept 7x9mm oval rails ? Thnx
Hi Andy - Yes, the ShockStop Seatpost has a clamp that is designed to work with 7x7 and 7x9 rails. Thanks for checking out the video!
@@Redshiftsports THNX so much.!
how could I buy one?
Hi Ton - you can purchase the seatpost on www.redshiftsports.com. It is in pre-order for another month or so while we ship out to our early pre-order customers then it will be for general sale. Thanks
I'm 72... and I have the redshift suspension seatpost in place. If anybody wants to look at my ugly butt while going over multiple bumps I'll mount a go pro and make it happen for ya............................. nobody? ....................... Cool! ............Ok just go buy one and you'll feel the difference especially if your butt muscles went out the window like 20 years ago. Cheers!
Thanks so much for the great feedback Pat! I believe I just responded to your email as well but happy to hear that everything is working out for you despite the initial difficulty with the tilt adjustment! We couldn't agree with you more that the Shockstop Seatpost(and stem) is a fantastic add-on for anyone with a rigid frame. I hope your bike stays in one piece as you find new bumps for the Shockstop to smooth out! Take care, keep riding, and thanks again!
You're very welcome Pat! The Arclights are really cool and we'd love to see you on a set in the future! We'll keep you posted about discounts and sales! Thanks again for all the support and take care.
Installed this before this video was linked. You look like you need a shave. :D