Kids is a man baby, his way or no way, but he doesn't know what he wants...Wait, yes he does. money, from the woman and then he "might" play attention to them..But that's not true either..Mary gave her money and he says he can't stand her.. Christina was suppose to be thankful that he spend time and attention to her...lol
What is Janelle supposed to apologize for? Supporting Robin and her 3 kids for paying off all of her depts, giving her a million dollar home, for stealing all your money
She's supposed to apologize for not kissing Robyn's behind and here's the funny part. Meri is nice to Robyn. She kisses Robyn's behind the way Kody wants and look at the way Meri gets treated. She's the punchingbag and glorified piggybank.
She needs to tell him to f off, go be with Robin. Pay her off for her part of coyote pass and make him pay child support! So when he only has princess Robin I bet it won't last because she will be looking for her next meal ticket!
This constant loyalty talk is insane. Janelle, Meri and Christine were loyal to this clown for 30 years. They worked their butts off for this family for years and then Robyn struts in and has never worked a single day to help contribute towards this family but Janelle isn’t loyal!?!
He knows she won’t do what he’s demanding. He’s trying to push her out but make it her fault. She gave him decades of her life and 6 children. Sickening.
@Andrea I've read you say that on a few posts even though they were understandable. Candi is referring to Gabriel. He was doing great in both academics and athletics. He had such a good set up for college scholarships. Because they moved for Robyn's son, Gabriel had to give up his rankings and achievements that he had in Vegas.
That episode had me in tears seeing Gabriel so upset like he was. There would be no way I would have the heart to do that to Gabriel if I was Janelle, but I'm so glad she put her kids ahead of Kody and his foolishness in the more recent years... not kicking them out like he told her to.
@@sheliawright2496 I would LOVE a good shouting match where Robyn gets put in her place and if any of the women could do it, I could see Janelle being capable of making her feel 1 inch tall at the end of it. Christine is a gracious women and did her best not to be hurtful, but I bet Janelle would give 0 f---s.
@@amylynnsgraphics So would I! Lol I think Robyn`s children were completely out of line smarting off to Christine at the goodbye show. Children should not be putting their 2 cents worth into adult matters. That speaks volumes of the type of parents Cody and Robyn are.
I hope she's ready to tell him she's done too. I honestly think it's what he wants so he has a scapegoat for his butt hurt feelings and if he can get rid of Janelle and Meri then he can start a new harem with younger women and use them up like he's trying to do with the others. I wouldn't put it pat Robyn to put this idea in his head.
I don't think for one minute that Robyn is obedient and submissive. I think she is just extremely manipulative and has figured out a way to make Kody THINK she is - while all the while she is the one pulling HIS strings. I think she has him right where she wants him.
My Mom (born 1918) used to call wives like Robyn, “Backdoor wives”. Cause they play dumb, helpless, and dependent. While planting their ideas very offhandedly and letting the big brave man feel like it was his idea and/or decision. Thus using the backdoor. A good example of her doing this (on camera) was when Kody asked her if they couldn’t let Meri see and help with the kids. She did her question routine, over and over until he got the right answer then told him how right he was!!!
Their lifestyle would fall apart REAL QUICK if Janelle left! When Christine left, she took the family's traditions and children with her...when Janelle leaves, she will be taking the family's financial stability with her!!! God, I really hope Kody and Robyn are ultimately left all alone with each other...as they deserve!
Absolutely Ashley 100% she’s holding the carrot and Cody is the horse or the voice but she plants ideas in his head and then yeah just it’s sickening run Janel RUN!! And he goes with her ideas because number one she wants him to “lead the family”
I felt REALLY uncomfortable when Kody got right up in Janelle’s face. It was VERY aggressive. Kody uses words that he doesn’t understand the true meaning of. Like calling Janelle “aloof” or while gaslighting everyone he says that they are “gaslighting”him. He calls Hunter “Narcissistic” when he is the biggest Narcissist ever. He also says he wants a “plural” marriage when he really is having a monogamous relationship with Robyn. He says men don’t love a woman who doesn’t show him respect. OMG!! He doesn’t think that works both ways???!!! Would love to see him “rebuild” the family & what would happen to Robyn if Kody fell in love with a new wife & wanted to adopt her children. Would Robyn divorce him legally like Meri did so Robyn’s kids could be adopted? Oh please, Robyn would be “Sobbin” even more than usual. Half the time she “cries” it’s all face & no tears. Agghhh!!!!! RUN JANELLE RUN!!!!
Lol…. He definitely try to use these words from a Thesaurus!!! You can even see in so many episodes, he fumbles, stutters to try to make him appear Superior!! Makes me sick!
And doesnt even dawn on him that we can all go back to earlier episodes and watch how he acted and treated all these women. He really has no loyalties to any if them. All of them can replaced in a heartbeat maybe thats why Roybn plays this game of being the loyal one. Wait till he fings another fool, opps wife, to marry andxsee how how quickly Robyn will also be sent out to pasture.
OMG! Robyn is not innocent! She should not be apologized to! Robyn plays up to this! I think Kody has a delusional point of view! Please Janelle please leave! Run!!
Sobbyn is the one who came in and disrupted things!!! Because i only see them on screen, the first season it seemed like Janelle, Meri and Christine were cool with each other, but then Sobbyn the hot new trophy wife enters the picture and she basically steps on all of their toes by being a princess, kissing their husband when she's not married to him yet and is expecting as much time with him as his actual wives! And she adds literally 0 value to the other women! Meri, Christine and Janelle at least contributed something to each other and they pulled their weight, Robyn is a parasite!
Robyn made herself the victim over and over again. "I need a nanny.","I need help." and Janelle nailed it. Robyn made herself the damsel and it was nothing more then that. She wanted to be the victim and that's it.
Janelle is a treasure And she will make him see his loss. Janelle has finally found her voice Now she is pissed off Princess Noodle head and ugly Robin of many faces better be ready because Janelle can bury them financially with all she knows Especially if she gets them investigated !!!!
So do I....he absolutely doesn't deserve her! She's like this awesome Hippy chick, like Mother Earth...she just wants to be out on her land close to nature so she can garden all day and stargaze at night! She's freaking AWESOME 👌 Seriously if TLC doesn't JUMP at this opportunity to give Christine and Janelle their own show...their own spin off totally separate from Kody then that will be a gold mine just left untouched. Doesn't Oprah have a network? She should do a show with them! Any entertainment agents on the thread? Shop this now while the drama is 🔥 hot its like a reality show silver platter! Does the BBC have a US arm? They are more documentary types but geeez some network out there if TLC isn't going to go for it!
Me too! We all knew Janelle would be the next one in Kody's cross-hairs and he is so dumb to say it's Janelle's fault cuz she's disloyal. It's laughable to tag Janelle as disloyal. Her innate dignity and integrity carry right through the camera. And Mr King-loyal threatening his wife of 30 years (who gave him SIX children, no less) with divorce over bullsh*t.
This was a really manipulative way of saying “If you want to be in a relationship with me, you need to give me control of your finances and buy Christine’s old house like I want to do.”
I feel bad for Janelle because I think she loves Cody or at least thought he was her best friend and thought he felt the same and is now realizing he doesn't, That must be awful for her
This is Robyn's quote from their book. 'When I first started courting Kody, my viewpoint gave him a new perspective on his family and some of his relationships. At first, I think it was hard for my sister wives to hear my voice coming through when Kody spoke, but I think as time passed, my opinion was respected more and more." So yes, Robyn wanted to change the dynamics of the family from the beginning and she succeeded. What is strange is that he strives to please HER He thinks that she is obeys him, but really, he obeys her!
Wow, He was discussing the other wives with her from the beginning... that is betrayal! When before that, it was unacceptible to talk about the other wives behind their backs to another sister wife. She took control & was proud if it. And instead of teaching her the rules she needed to follow, Cody dropped them & gave her control. She didn't want the fun Cody, She wanted him to act like the ruler of his planet ahead of time.. Robyn ruined the whole family... no wonder the first husband divorced her...👵❤️
@@GrannyDi276 You nailed it. She had no desire to blend in with the family. She only wanted Cody and the other three wive's money so she could get out of debt and have a free ride. She systematically ruined everything they had, even though it wasn't that great. Cody is completely hypnotized and can't see any of it.
@@wolfhound1452 Robyn and the Kody owe a massive apology to Janelle and Christine . No man of sane mind would talk to women the way he does. These women don't have to do what he wants. Who does he think he is. I have been married for 41 years and my.husband doesn't tell me what to do.
Robyn is submissive because she brings nothing to the table so it's the only way to stay. He needs someone stupid so he can control them, but Janelle isn't stupid. Janelle brought the table.
Love this! And so true, Janelle brought the table and Christine brought the chairs! All Kody and Robyn have left is whatever money Meri wants to contribute.
Not a fan of Robyn but I think she's in survival mode enabling him keeps her in his good graces so it's easy..it's not a good thing but she's comfortable
How will Robyn afford her million dollar home and nanny when Janelle says adios? Kody’s hobby business won’t be enough to underwrite her lifestyle. Maybe she should’ve taken up one of those other offers she’s always bragging about. 🙄🙄🙄
I was almost vomiting at "SOMEBODY came into our family and treated us very kindly". OF COURSE she did. Everybody would if you find a family that doesn't only take on you and your debt, but also your three kids.
Janelle is so beautiful!!! She has so much going for her! She’s a hard working capable single Mom who raised responsible capable children who love her! She’s a wonderful kind and loyal friend to Christine! This woman has substance and integrity, whatever she decides I wish her all of the happiness and success in the world!!!
I think there was more than “kissing.” I think it was a code word for what they really did. Many years ago, I saw the show where Christine was in labor and Kody snuck off to see Robyn. I was appalled then and now I’m just disgusted with those two jokers.
I truly doubt it was beyond kissing. I was raised LDS Mormon & they are very, very, very serious & strict about NO sex outside of marriage (& that means *nothing* beyond kissing, & not kissing before marriage is just fine with them, too--I know Mormons who did not kiss untill they were at the marriage altar, & already married). Fundamentalist Mormons are even more hardcore, & I listened to Robyn's "morality" talk. I don't think for one minute, that there was more than kissing.
I’m just about sure Robyn was taught how to be manipulative from her mother or somewhere. Her level of manipulation feels like it is taught not learned. Like someone who lived through polygamy told her every trifling thing you can do to cross your sister wives! It sickens me!
If children grow up around a certain type of behaviour, they very often come to see it as a norm they model & repeat. Parents in dysfunctional or abusive relationships need to realise this when they say they "stayed for the children". The first few years of a child's life & their relationship with their parents set the template for the child's behaviour in their own adult life. (I did child psychology as part of my teaching degree).
Robyn's mom calls her the "family scapegoat" so yeah . makes sense. but also furthering and validating Robyn's victimhood in her mind. can't wait for everyone to leave so she has nobody else to blame!
What husband thinks so little of their spouse and life partner that they would even need a conversation like this? OMG a loving relationship is so much deeper than that! I have been married for 46 years, and this conversation just really is a bad sign. This relationship is very broken.
He would also have to stop being an idiot. The guy is like a tornado everywhere he goes. He is bad with money, bad at organization, bad at communicating, bad at being someone the wives or kids can count on. Even if Janelle had her own house she is still basically trying to survive in spite of him.
There, you said it. This loyalty thing is all about pulling Janelle away from Christine. He doesn’t want her to be Christine’s support system, or getting any ideas about leaving him because Christine is doing so much better without him and that pisses him off.
Kody: My invitation to you is to get to a place of loyalty with me. Janelle: I bore six of your children. I financially supported twelve of them. My earnings bought the Lehi house, from which we built the equity to make the Vegas move, and the Vegas equity enabled you to purchase the house on the hill where you live with Robyn and her children, while I've rented homes for my children the entire time we've been in Flagstaff. Now that I want to do what we moved here to do, and provide stability and a legacy for the six children we share, I'm disloyal? All I'm asking for is the same stability you've given Robyn's five kids: a home from which they cannot be turfed out on some landlord's whim. And I'm disloyal? No I'm not, but I've got fakakta taste in men and my children's father is a putz.
Exactly! It's like the old saying: if he'll cheat with you, he'll cheat on you. Except with Kody it's; if he'll discard her for you, he'll discard you too.
Not sure he wants more kids. Once it’s just him & Robyn they will only have each other to fight with! That would be crazy if he married Robyn’s daughter.
Me too. He uses words that cut to the bone! It's bad enough that he says such things at all, but to verbally gut Christine and now Janelle is mortifying. With each of them he's pretty much claiming that him marrying them was the equivalent of a "pity f*ck" and I can't imagine what that does to a woman who gave him 30 years and six beautiful children. I hope Christine and Janelle are rewarded with lives filled with joy, love and compassion from here on out. 🐦✌🏼🌍
I have another point of view to offer. Put aside the any feelings about Robyn. Look at how Kody treats Robyn. If Kody treated all of his wives as he treats Robyn, can you imagine how how “loyal” Janelle, Meri and Christine would’ve been? Kody instead tells the three other wives that he doesn’t even love them and wants them to suffer like he had to since he never loved the other wives- which are things he literally has said. This is pure madness.
Its been years since I saw the very early episodes, but I remember Kody making it clear to us that Janelle was his financial partner, that he and Janelle went to work every day to support the family. And one of them mentioned Janelle wrote the checks and managed the money that the two of them brought home. So it really burns that he is turning on Janelle now. I hope he gets his just rewards.
Great video, I was in a beautiful marriage before my now ex wife left me,i still love her and most times i can't stop thinking about her, i am doing my very best to get rid of the thought of her, but i just can't, i love her so much, i don't know why i am bring this here for, i can't stop thinking about her
it's always difficult to let go of someone you love, i was in a similar situation my wife for 12 years left me, i couldn't just let her go i did all i could to get her back, i had to seek the help of a spiritual adviser who helped me bring her back.
Well, if Robyn wants a plural marriage so bad, Kody's gonna have to replace C&J with some young sweet baby bearing wives! 😂 Bet she could squeeze out some real tears then. 😭 😂
I think at that point if she couldn’t be the tyrannical bully head wife she’d divorce him and take him for all she can get! Retirement income without having worked!
Janelle financially supported Robyn! They were struggling and Robyn's bill got paid, she got her own rental, and oh yeah she got a nanny. She would not let the other kids take food from her house. I mean Robyn contributed NOTHING to the family and sunk all their money into the failure that was my Sisters Wives Closet.
Robyn can’t even look at the camera when saying “I didn’t kno kody was telling Janelle to apologize to me!” She’s looking everywhere else but the camera. 😂
Janelle is my favorite and it sickens me how Kody can be so disrespectful to such a hard working fabulous mother and wife. She is clearly easy going and a total sweetheart. What is his problem! I can see her heart breaking in half in this conversation
If Janelle hasn't left Kody, she needs to asap. If he can't appreciate what Janelle has done for the family. Giving you all these beautiful children and grandkids. She worked hard to provide financially for the whole family, something you could never do. If she waited for you to make the decisions that need to be made, she'd wait forever. Screw you Kody, Janelle can do so much better than you.
Not only did Robyn comment on Janelle’s weight but on Christine’s age. I was watching season 2 when Robyn, Mari & Janelle are on the couch talking to the camera and Janelle mentions Christine having a hard time since Truly was born and Robyn says “well I heard it’s harder when your old or older having babies.” 🤬
How can Kody say that when they paid Robyn’s bills entering the family and Janelle and Meri gave her the $$$ from there house to buy her house. They ended up in Flagstaff because of Robyn.
@Stephanie D I'm sorry to disagree. Sobyn is very secure in her position. She strolled into that family with 4 extra mouths to feed and house and a mountain of debt. She felt perfectly entitled to having the other wives work to support her lifestyle. And she got a million dollar home out of it.
She is actually very financially secure now that she has the legal marriage. Now she owns at least half of everything the other wives built. Janelle owns nothing but contributed the most. I feel bad for Janelle because she is the one who bought into all of this and invested the most financially, but has nothing to show for it. Kody is lying and trying to make her feel like she isn’t “loyal” to him while he is sitting with sobyn in a house Janelle bought for them while she lives in an RV. The big problem here is the legal paperwork. It doesn’t matter who worked and paid for the house. It only matters whose name is on the deed.
Janelle could have said, 'Ok, You want me to be more like Robin, I'll quit my job tomorrow and move in with the two of you.'. 😁 I'd love to see his reaction to that!
I'd love to see Robyn's reaction to that idea. She really should suggest that she is going to move in with him and Robin because she put so much money into that house that it's partly hers. That would be so fun to watch!!!
@@followmyuniverse5155 that would mean Robyn would have to clean her home….which she’s never done. That’s why they don’t film in her house. Go back to season 1…it’s always a mess
Robyn is the type of manipulative and controlling that is scary. Robyn is subtle and creepy. Her daughters are becoming this way too. Kody is so snowed by her back door tactics that he doesn't realize how everything he says has been put in his mind by this one woman. She seems to be sociopathic.
There is nothing in me that believes that Sobin Robin isn't part of what Kody is doing with Janelle. I believe Sobin Robin runs Kody! And it may be with what Sobin Robin lets Kody think, like he's the king and can do whatever he wants. But don't get it twisted Sobin Robin is running things Kody just doesn't know.
I've said this for years. It's so obvious she's the one in charge. I don't understand how some people can't see it. Some people believe that she's a submissive, innocent, meek wife that Kody is abusing. She's the one that has his balls in her purse. He's her puppet and does everything she tells him to.
Janelle is not a fool. She knows what Kody is and what he's playing at. He wants her out of the family but he wants to get as much of her money as he can before she goes. That is why he's trying to get her to buy Christine's old house. But Janelle knows that if she gets to build her house on Coyote Pass, she will have a bigger equity in her name, The only question in my mind is how long she can endure his nonsense and can she endure until she gets what she deserves.
They need a forensic accountant and a good divorce/ family lawyer to straighten this mess out. Each of the other wives need compensation for themselves and their children.
It truly is all about the sex and attention. He gave plenty of everyday affection to the first three but I believe it was the intimacy and sex that they were all probably missing even before Robyn. When she entered the picture, he got some fresh ass and it was GOODNIGHT to the other three ladies.
Remember how Robyn told Christine she was not divorced until she slept with another man. Well this, Robyn sleeping with Kody while they were dating is very plausible, as then it made her a divorced woman who could get engaged to Kody. Using Robyn's twisted logic.
Robyn says she wanted desperately to be a part of this family, but she wanted Kody's affection and the other wives to pay for everything. She could have been telling Kody he's not being fair to his other wives by spending all his time with her. Instead she monopolizes all his time. She is deceptive.
Good point! "Desperate" is such a weird word choice. She was in a desperate situation maybe as a single mom with three kids & no skills to make money. She might have been desperate to come off to the camera that she wanted to be a part of the family.
I think he really did feel this way in the beginning. I also think his favorite wife has been in his ear telling him you shouldn't put up with that. You're the head of the household.
Robyn will get his social security and I wonder if Dayton is collecting disability payments from Kody’s social security. Getting Mary to divorce so he could marry Robyn was a calculated stroke of genius in my opinion.
Dayton has never had a formal evaluation. Robyn is the one who labeled him as autistic. For SSA to award disability payments, there must be extensive forms filled out by doctors and teachers. And as high-functioning as he is, he still might not qualify. I'm a retired Special Educator who was cross-trained by SSA and Rehab services. From watching him on the show, and seeing how articulate he is, I just don't think he'd qualify. There's only a small amount of $$$ available, and kids with more challenging disabilities would qualify first.
Kody has done a complete 180 since the beginning. He’s portraying plural marriage now exactly as he said it wasn’t when the show first aired. It was fun to watch the family dynamic at first… now, it’s like watching an episode of Escaping Polygamy. When Janelle leaves, I’m done. I’m not gonna sit here and watch him con more women into his harem.
I don't think Kory wants more wives. I don't think he wants a polygamous lifestyle anymore. He wants only Robin and their life together. He wants to keep all the assets the other wives brought him...properties, money, etc. He and Robyn are set in their mansion, complete with nanny (for what reason?? Who knows), the property which will stay with them and the other women and children (his children...not by adoption) he is getting rid of. He has adopted Robyn's three children ( which at least two are adults) and they have a nice little set up for themselves. I feel so bad for all the children that he has no life with, because, they are not Robyn's children. Robyn is a major manipulator (don't care how she learned it), she and that narcissist should not be on tv any longer. They are getting paid to do what they have done to that family.
I was done when they moved from Vegas…..forcing those kids to move at such a critical time in their lives and for what? There was no plan for the immediate future , just some pipe dream for the coyote pass kingdom. The kids have never been a priority to Kody, only Robyn’s kids. I follow woacb to see how the family members are doing, I won’t watch TLC promote this kind of abusive behavior and treatment of women and children….
@Nancy yes!! Kody won't take more wives. It's all Robyn and Kody in a monogamous marriage. That's that. All done... time to move to new people who truly live the lifestyle!
As hateful as he's being, this should be his last season - and Robyn's too. It's time for Just Christine and Janelle. Meri only if she leaves them too.
My husband said the same thing. He was watching the pilot episode with me and 1 minute in, as soon as he saw the 2 seater, my husband says” He has 3 wives and expecting his 13th child? And he is driving a 2 seater? His father has failed him. No worthy husband would think this would ever be a good idea.”
Omg lets not forget when the family went to that march to help legalize polygamy.. Christine was going to give Robyn full custody of her children if Christine got arrested... And Kody says Christine didn't get along with Robyn??? I feel so bad for Janelle cause Kody is taking all his frustrations out on her now...
Janelle's question if Kody would defend her as he defends Robyn was a good one. But of course, he didn't answer it. Deflect, deny, blame and gaslight...
Yes, he can't man up and say that he only wants Robin. Either he's a coward or his beliefsystem doesn't allow him to divorce his wives. The man is living a lie & is allowing himself to turn into an abusive ahole. No standards for his own behavior, no integrity. I think secretly he's revealed that Christine left. He initially spoke abt not having to carry the burden of a loveless marriage. Kody only wants one wife, all the money and full control. To have the freedom to build his family with Robin at the expense of the rest of the family/world. It's him and Robin against the world.
Janelle needs to get a lawyer and sue for her piece of the property and show the total scam Cody has pulled on everyone of the wives (except Sobin Robin)
Hold up! When Meri said Kody wasn’t there when she needed him for repairs or whatever, he said he had other wives and couldn’t be with any of his wives ALL the time! Now he doesn’t want Janelle to be “like a single woman”!
I think Janelle felt secure in her position in the family. She underestimated Robyn's powers of evil because she had already overcome Meri and didn't think anyone could be worse than that.
Its literally sick how he can't or won't see how he favors and only actually loves sobyn. Like.....does he actually believe himself or he's just so arrogant he thinks the entirety of the audience is so dumb we can't see his lies?? Either way, it's sick. Like beyond therapy sick
Yes! I completely would have said 'full stop. I think the freak not. You need to back all the way the f up and try that again like a damn adult'. Who the hell does he think he is??!
Janelle, you go girl!! Keep telling Kody how it is! He refuses to see the way Robyn has treated the kids or see the way she has always gotten special treatment from Kody. I'm ready for the spin-off "Leaving Polygamy: Christine and Janelle"
Kody wants Janelle's money and he doesn't want another blow to his ego like when Christine left. He will string Janelle along claiming "she's not loyal enough" for eternity while he bleeds her dry and constantly changes the goal posts. There is simply NOTHING she can do to get a similar relationship w/ Kody like Robyn has. Because Kody is not attracted to Janelle, because she's overweight, because her kids are grown and don't idolize Kody, blah blah blah. He will never again be intimate w/ her. Janelle please move on!
You ever notice that Kody talks about Robyn's kids as HIS kids but Christine and Janelle's kids are Christine's kids and Janelle's kids. Wondered if anyone noticed that. Kody needs to watch his own show lol.
Loyalty... as if she hasn't given him all of her money over 30 years? Didn't they pay off Robyn's 32k debt. They moved to Flagstaff because Robyn's son was going to college. It's honestly disgusting to see them now live in a mansion (paid for by Meri & janelle) with Robyn's adult children. From Truley to Ysabel to Janelle's boys, I just do NOT understand.
Omg. Right?! It was already a shocker that Janelle gave half of her proceeds to Robyn for this house, then Meri says she gave ALL?! You know it's only because Meri and Robyn are close. It's shocking. They couldn't give her money to put down on the B&B, but Meri gives all of that to Robyn for this 900k home?! Kody is such an ass. And Kody was shocked when Meri didn't want the family involved in the B&B because she did it on her own! 🙄🙄🙄
Didn’t Kody say each relationship is different and you need to keep them separate and not compare the marriages? He yelled at Christine earlier this season for comparing her marriage to Robyn’s (but he then went on to compare their marriage to Meri’s 🙄). He’s got his own set of rules that apply to him but no one else.
My God if we don't get a reunion with "Janet in Idaho wants to point out your hypocrisy," "Megan in Monroe wants to know why she doesn't work".. I am gonna have a stroke..
Excuse me…does anyone else see that Kody has shown in more ways than one that he wants one wife and that’s Robyn….the others are just to be his silent inactive partners! Good for the ladies who decide to move on. Mary is fooling herself if she thinks her loyalty is appreciated by Kody… get your own life Mary…he has even stated you should move on!
I agree, I think hes trying to make it so that they leave one by one. So it can just be Robyn. Be easier to blame them and he not look bad. He's a jerk
Robyn actually ran everything. They moved to Flagstaff because her son was going to school there. Robyn should apologize to Gabriel and Gwendolyn for forcing them to sacrifice their scholarships. The list goes on and on. Janelle is terrific; she saw the handwriting on the wall when Robyn joined the family and made a life for herself and her kids.
@@Rwhisper-sy9qu Dayton is still in college and is doing well. My biggest problem with the move was the lack of compromise. Gabriel and Gwen were seniors and should have been able to take full advantage of those scholarships. All Robyn and Kody had to do was postpone the move a year.
Robyn came in like a hurricane, pretending to be a constant Damsel in distress. I don't think any of the wives were less loyal. She needed a Honeymoon! I think Christine needed a husband at that time! Kody's loyalty extends only to Sobyn Robyn!
This while ‘you act like an independent woman’ thing is because Robyn reported back to Kody that Janelle was never at home when she made he random check ins
Janelle said, “whole DAMNED day!” Get it, Janelle. Throw it all out there. Janelle is my favorite and I hope she chooses herself from now on. (Love Christine too.)
So very pregnant Christine freaked out when she learned they sealed the engagement with a kiss, but they just kept kissing anyway throughout the whole engagement? They are both such jerks.
I love your reports on Sister Wives. Used to be able to receive TLC here in London but can't, for some reason receive it, so hence why I treasure your reports. Big thank you. It's just so hard to believe that these woman stayed with him for more than 10 years, if that. Well done to Christine and Janelle for up and leaving and livi g their lives as independent women. Upset with Meri as thought she would have up and gone by now. Keep up the great work. Marian fron London
I think Robyn knew her parenting was sub par or strange and if Christine babysat she would know. A nanny will do what she's told and is not allowed to discuss family matters.
There is an untold story about Robyn and why she is unable to care for children during the day. I think she has to sleep a large portion of the day as Arielle is up all night. Not sure what is going on with that little one but she is definitely a unicorn and a real handful
I see the horror and hurt on jenalles face as cootie says the most demeaning things about her and her 30 year marriage (to him). As strong as she's been, she is not without heart and feelings that her marriage WAS worth something. cootie is a toad. i hope some day some one treats him just as poorly as he has treated the women (except for sobbin).
How dare Robyn! Janelle gave Robyn the money she made from her home in Vegas. As well as Meri who also gave Robyn money from the sale of her house in Vegas. Robyn is lazy and doesn’t work but takes money from all the wives. It’s absolutely ridiculous and they all need to sue Robyn and Cody.
Robin doesn't do as Kody says. She makes Kody think the thoughts she puts in his head are his ideas. When Kody talked to Robin about Christine. You could see he looks to her to tell him what to do. So it's been going on for awhile.
For a man who shows no loyalty or respect to his wives and children, he sure does demand both from everyone, loudly.
Hit the nail on the head perfectly. 🗣🗣🔨🔨
I think that's pretty much the foundation of their beliefs no? The women be sweet and be happy with scraps, while the husband is KiNg 🤮🤮
Kids is a man baby, his way or no way, but he doesn't know what he wants...Wait, yes he does. money, from the woman and then he "might" play attention to them..But that's not true either..Mary gave her money and he says he can't stand her.. Christina was suppose to be thankful that he spend time and attention to her...lol
A very poor excuse for a man...He probably enjoys.."Robin" being charge. Role playing.
He’s a bully. Nothing less.
What is Janelle supposed to apologize for? Supporting Robin and her 3 kids for paying off all of her depts, giving her a million dollar home, for stealing all your money
She's supposed to apologize for not kissing Robyn's behind and here's the funny part. Meri is nice to Robyn. She kisses Robyn's behind the way Kody wants and look at the way Meri gets treated. She's the punchingbag and glorified piggybank.
That is the honest truth Thank you
Exactly! 👍💯💯💯
5 kids
She needs to tell him to f off, go be with Robin. Pay her off for her part of coyote pass and make him pay child support! So when he only has princess Robin I bet it won't last because she will be looking for her next meal ticket!
This constant loyalty talk is insane. Janelle, Meri and Christine were loyal to this clown for 30 years. They worked their butts off for this family for years and then Robyn struts in and has never worked a single day to help contribute towards this family but Janelle isn’t loyal!?!
Bingo🎯👏🏾
Pretty whacked.
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Exactly why this makes me so angry, it's like there was no life before Robyn.
Spot on!!! 🎯 🎯 🎯
He knows she won’t do what he’s demanding. He’s trying to push her out but make it her fault. She gave him decades of her life and 6 children. Sickening.
Not to mention all her money!
Yes your so right because he's a narcissists
Well said
Nailed it
Janelle is in for the long hall, but she has to have a breaking point, I thinks we will see it in the near future!
Robyn ruined Janell’s sons lives that were forced to give up scholarships, girlfriends, and a full life. Yet expects them to apologize to her.
Edit before posting, makes no sense when you are in such a hurry to talk.
@Andrea I've read you say that on a few posts even though they were understandable.
Candi is referring to Gabriel. He was doing great in both academics and athletics. He had such a good set up for college scholarships. Because they moved for Robyn's son, Gabriel had to give up his rankings and achievements that he had in Vegas.
That episode had me in tears seeing Gabriel so upset like he was. There would be no way I would have the heart to do that to Gabriel if I was Janelle, but I'm so glad she put her kids ahead of Kody and his foolishness in the more recent years... not kicking them out like he told her to.
Andrea, rude!! Cindi I knew the meaning of your post.
@@Andrea-sl8wd really? 🤣🤣
I love Janelle’s strength it gets stronger each episode this season.
I would love to see Janelle tear him up! Lol I believe she could too Lol Sobyn Robyn would go back where she came from Why dont they fight back?
Sobyn Robyn 😂
@@sheliawright2496 I would LOVE a good shouting match where Robyn gets put in her place and if any of the women could do it, I could see Janelle being capable of making her feel 1 inch tall at the end of it. Christine is a gracious women and did her best not to be hurtful, but I bet Janelle would give 0 f---s.
@@amylynnsgraphics So would I! Lol I think Robyn`s children were completely out of line smarting off to Christine at the goodbye show. Children should not be putting their 2 cents worth into adult matters. That speaks volumes of the type of parents Cody and Robyn are.
I hope she's ready to tell him she's done too. I honestly think it's what he wants so he has a scapegoat for his butt hurt feelings and if he can get rid of Janelle and Meri then he can start a new harem with younger women and use them up like he's trying to do with the others. I wouldn't put it pat Robyn to put this idea in his head.
I don't think for one minute that Robyn is obedient and submissive. I think she is just extremely manipulative and has figured out a way to make Kody THINK she is - while all the while she is the one pulling HIS strings. I think she has him right where she wants him.
BINGO!!!
I agree Robyn is the mastermind in ALL of this.
My Mom (born 1918) used to call wives like Robyn, “Backdoor wives”. Cause they play dumb, helpless, and dependent. While planting their ideas very offhandedly and letting the big brave man feel like it was his idea and/or decision. Thus using the backdoor. A good example of her doing this (on camera) was when Kody asked her if they couldn’t let Meri see and help with the kids. She did her question routine, over and over until he got the right answer then told him how right he was!!!
I agree 110%
Thank you. Robyn is NOT obedient and submissive. She's always telling Kody what to do.
"Act like Robyn"? You mean lie, cry all the time, isolate the other wives, destroy your relationship with your kids and never work?
Ridiculous
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Minipulate
Their lifestyle would fall apart REAL QUICK if Janelle left! When Christine left, she took the family's traditions and children with her...when Janelle leaves, she will be taking the family's financial stability with her!!! God, I really hope Kody and Robyn are ultimately left all alone with each other...as they deserve!
@@psychicrenegade They would be broke. All they have been doing is living off of the other three wives.
Robyn doesn’t submit to kody, she just knows how to make him think he’s in control, but she’s running the show.
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Lisa Dawn: good point!!!
Absolutely 💯
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Absolutely Ashley 100% she’s holding the carrot and Cody is the horse or the voice but she plants ideas in his head and then yeah just it’s sickening run Janel RUN!! And he goes with her ideas because number one she wants him to “lead the family”
I felt REALLY uncomfortable when Kody got right up in Janelle’s face. It was VERY aggressive. Kody uses words that he doesn’t understand the true meaning of. Like calling Janelle “aloof” or while gaslighting everyone he says that they are “gaslighting”him. He calls Hunter “Narcissistic” when he is the biggest Narcissist ever. He also says he wants a “plural” marriage when he really is having a monogamous relationship with Robyn. He says men don’t love a woman who doesn’t show him respect. OMG!! He doesn’t think that works both ways???!!! Would love to see him “rebuild” the family & what would happen to Robyn if Kody fell in love with a new wife & wanted to adopt her children. Would Robyn divorce him legally like Meri did so Robyn’s kids could be adopted? Oh please, Robyn would be “Sobbin” even more than usual. Half the time she “cries” it’s all face & no tears. Agghhh!!!!! RUN JANELLE RUN!!!!
Lol…. He definitely try to use these words from a Thesaurus!!! You can even see in so many episodes, he fumbles, stutters to try to make him appear Superior!!
Makes me sick!
I agree with you. Robin needs a little taste of watching her husband fall in love with someone else. Let's see if she can handle it.
It couldn't be me I would tell him about his self
I agree, Kody is always projecting, everything he accuses the other wives of doing is exactly the things Robyn does.
It's astounding the selective memory Kody has and how he seems to believe his own bullshit.
Classic narc behavior is to believe your own make believe version of reality and gaslight anyone that sees it differently
It’s even funnier if you think how all this is on camera lol
And doesnt even dawn on him that we can all go back to earlier episodes and watch how he acted and treated all these women. He really has no loyalties to any if them. All of them can replaced in a heartbeat maybe thats why Roybn plays this game of being the loyal one. Wait till he fings another fool, opps wife, to marry andxsee how how quickly Robyn will also be sent out to pasture.
That's a typical narcissistic sociopath behavior
@@cheryleaston6820 everything he said Mary does all that and more he don't want to be with her you're such a liar .
OMG! Robyn is not innocent! She should not be apologized to! Robyn plays up to this! I think Kody has a delusional point of view! Please Janelle please leave! Run!!
Sobbyn is the one who came in and disrupted things!!! Because i only see them on screen, the first season it seemed like Janelle, Meri and Christine were cool with each other, but then Sobbyn the hot new trophy wife enters the picture and she basically steps on all of their toes by being a princess, kissing their husband when she's not married to him yet and is expecting as much time with him as his actual wives! And she adds literally 0 value to the other women! Meri, Christine and Janelle at least contributed something to each other and they pulled their weight, Robyn is a parasite!
Robyn made herself the victim over and over again. "I need a nanny.","I need help." and Janelle nailed it. Robyn made herself the damsel and it was nothing more then that. She wanted to be the victim and that's it.
@@christineperez7562 I would marry her.
@@amylynnsgraphicsRobyn is NOT any "hot trophy" wife At All! More like a Gold Digger taking all the money the other "wives" earn!
Janelle is a treasure And she will make him see his loss. Janelle has finally found her voice Now she is pissed off Princess Noodle head and ugly Robin of many faces better be ready because Janelle can bury them financially with all she knows Especially if she gets them investigated !!!!
I love Janelle. She doesn’t need or deserve Kody.
@@redds7777 I agree 100%
So do I....he absolutely doesn't deserve her!
She's like this awesome Hippy chick, like Mother Earth...she just wants to be out on her land close to nature so she can garden all day and stargaze at night!
She's freaking AWESOME 👌
Seriously if TLC doesn't JUMP at this opportunity to give Christine and Janelle their own show...their own spin off totally separate from Kody then that will be a gold mine just left untouched.
Doesn't Oprah have a network? She should do a show with them!
Any entertainment agents on the thread? Shop this now while the drama is 🔥 hot its like a reality show silver platter!
Does the BBC have a US arm? They are more documentary types but geeez some network out there if TLC isn't going to go for it!
I want Janelle to be happy! I wish she'd get away and then just eventually find a loving and devoted man who deserves her. That's not Kody!
You mean Kody doesn’t deserve her.
Me too! We all knew Janelle would be the next one in Kody's cross-hairs and he is so dumb to say it's Janelle's fault cuz she's disloyal. It's laughable to tag Janelle as disloyal. Her innate dignity and integrity carry right through the camera. And Mr King-loyal threatening his wife of 30 years (who gave him SIX children, no less) with divorce over bullsh*t.
This was a really manipulative way of saying “If you want to be in a relationship with me, you need to give me control of your finances and buy Christine’s old house like I want to do.”
Exactly!
I feel bad for Janelle because I think she loves Cody or at least thought he was her best friend and thought he felt the same and is now realizing he doesn't, That must be awful for her
This is Robyn's quote from their book. 'When I first started courting Kody, my viewpoint gave him a new perspective on his family and some of his relationships. At first, I think it was hard for my sister wives to hear my voice coming through when Kody spoke, but I think as time passed, my opinion was respected more and more." So yes, Robyn wanted to change the dynamics of the family from the beginning and she succeeded. What is strange is that he strives to please HER He thinks that she is obeys him, but really, he obeys her!
Wow! So it’s her voice coming through!
This!
Oh Sobbyn...that's not respect they're feeling about your opinions🤢🤮
Wow, He was discussing the other wives with her from the beginning... that is betrayal! When before that, it was unacceptible to talk about the other wives behind their backs to another sister wife. She took control & was proud if it. And instead of teaching her the rules she needed to follow, Cody dropped them & gave her control. She didn't want the fun Cody, She wanted him to act like the ruler of his planet ahead of time.. Robyn ruined the whole family... no wonder the first husband divorced her...👵❤️
@@GrannyDi276 You nailed it. She had no desire to blend in with the family. She only wanted Cody and the other three wive's money so she could get out of debt and have a free ride. She systematically ruined everything they had, even though it wasn't that great. Cody is completely hypnotized and can't see any of it.
Apologize to Robin? For what???
He's Insane!!! 🤯
Robin needs to apologize for living off the other women.
@@wolfhound1452 Robyn and the Kody owe a massive apology to Janelle and Christine . No man of sane mind would talk to women the way he does. These women don't have to do what he wants. Who does he think he is. I have been married for 41 years and my.husband doesn't tell me what to do.
@@wolfhound1452 YES!!!
@@wolfhound1452 Class A MOOCH.
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Robyn is submissive because she brings nothing to the table so it's the only way to stay. He needs someone stupid so he can control them, but Janelle isn't stupid. Janelle brought the table.
Love this! And so true, Janelle brought the table and Christine brought the chairs! All Kody and Robyn have left is whatever money Meri wants to contribute.
Not a fan of Robyn but I think she's in survival mode enabling him keeps her in his good graces so it's easy..it's not a good thing but she's comfortable
Janelle and Christine not only brought the table and chairs, they probably also bought the table and chairs.
How will Robyn afford her million dollar home and nanny when Janelle says adios? Kody’s hobby business won’t be enough to underwrite her lifestyle. Maybe she should’ve taken up one of those other offers she’s always bragging about. 🙄🙄🙄
@@bencharlie9509 I thought Kody sold advertising. I must really be behind.
I remember when Janelle was very eager for all of them to live in one big house. It was Kody’s idea and Janelle was the only wife who supported it.
I was almost vomiting at "SOMEBODY came into our family and treated us very kindly". OF COURSE she did. Everybody would if you find a family that doesn't only take on you and your debt, but also your three kids.
Janelle is so beautiful!!! She has so much going for her! She’s a hard working capable single Mom who raised responsible capable children who love her! She’s a wonderful kind and loyal friend to Christine! This woman has substance and integrity, whatever she decides I wish her all of the happiness and success in the world!!!
Oh well said!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Exactly! She's amazing on her own and if she chooses to marry again, that person will be damn lucky to have her!
Yes, I think Janelle is very beautiful too!!! Inside and outside. ❤
Well said!!
I’ve always thought she was the prettiest of the wives but she looked really pretty in this clip.
Leave, lawyer up and take half their stuff janelle!!!!
Especially because she EARNED most of it, did all the financial management and I am sure she has receipts!!
I’m sure she has paper trail 👍🏻
@@cathyconklin5135 I sure hope so
@Cathy Conklin I bet she does too. And The Kodster would NEVER see that coming.
She takes care of all the financial for years. She has bank account paperwork 👍🏻👍🏻
I think there was more than “kissing.” I think it was a code word for what they really did.
Many years ago, I saw the show where Christine was in labor and Kody snuck off to see Robyn. I was appalled then and now I’m just disgusted with those two jokers.
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I truly doubt it was beyond kissing.
I was raised LDS Mormon & they are very, very, very serious & strict about NO sex outside of marriage (& that means *nothing* beyond kissing, & not kissing before marriage is just fine with them, too--I know Mormons who did not kiss untill they were at the marriage altar, & already married).
Fundamentalist Mormons are even more hardcore, & I listened to Robyn's "morality" talk.
I don't think for one minute, that there was more than kissing.
I agree!
I've been saying that for a while now.
True. Every time they got close to each other they acted like rabbits in heat.
I’m just about sure Robyn was taught how to be manipulative from her mother or somewhere. Her level of manipulation feels like it is taught not learned. Like someone who lived through polygamy told her every trifling thing you can do to cross your sister wives! It sickens me!
If children grow up around a certain type of behaviour, they very often come to see it as a norm they model & repeat. Parents in dysfunctional or abusive relationships need to realise this when they say they "stayed for the children". The first few years of a child's life & their relationship with their parents set the template for the child's behaviour in their own adult life. (I did child psychology as part of my teaching degree).
I agree. I think she's training her daughters.
This type of behaviour seems to be very common amongst polygamous wives, so I'm sure she grew up seeing it.
Robyn's mom calls her the "family scapegoat" so yeah . makes sense. but also furthering and validating Robyn's victimhood in her mind. can't wait for everyone to leave so she has nobody else to blame!
@@powderandpaint14 it happens frequently in polygamy because it's the only way women can have power in such a very lopsided power dynamic.
What husband thinks so little of their spouse and life partner that they would even need a conversation like this? OMG a loving relationship is so much deeper than that! I have been married for 46 years, and this conversation just really is a bad sign. This relationship is very broken.
Kody is very broken, and apparently very broke, too!!
Congratulations on 46 years of marriage, BTW! ❤️
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Finally! Janelle brought up the fact that Robin isn’t innocent in these relationships.
Maybe Janelle would be a bit more likely to let him be the head of the household if he bought her a big house and spent all his time there 🙄
Love this and definitely true!
Possible if he just showed more real concern for her and her portion of the family
He would also have to stop being an idiot. The guy is like a tornado everywhere he goes. He is bad with money, bad at organization, bad at communicating, bad at being someone the wives or kids can count on. Even if Janelle had her own house she is still basically trying to survive in spite of him.
Props to Janelle for not straight up laughing in his face.
She should have but I think she couldn’t believe her ears
Ooh wouldn’t that have been a great scene if she started just laughing at him
16:52 I would’ve slapped his face
There, you said it. This loyalty thing is all about pulling Janelle away from Christine. He doesn’t want her to be Christine’s support system, or getting any ideas about leaving him because Christine is doing so much better without him and that pisses him off.
Kody: My invitation to you is to get to a place of loyalty with me.
Janelle: I bore six of your children. I financially supported twelve of them. My earnings bought the Lehi house, from which we built the equity to make the Vegas move, and the Vegas equity enabled you to purchase the house on the hill where you live with Robyn and her children, while I've rented homes for my children the entire time we've been in Flagstaff. Now that I want to do what we moved here to do, and provide stability and a legacy for the six children we share, I'm disloyal? All I'm asking for is the same stability you've given Robyn's five kids: a home from which they cannot be turfed out on some landlord's whim. And I'm disloyal? No I'm not, but I've got fakakta taste in men and my children's father is a putz.
Kody is like "my way or the highway" and Janelle is like "I'm hitting the road" lol
Its more like its Robyn’s way or the highway. Lol.
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It was largely due to Meri. They couldn’t get along. Eventually she went back to try to work on things, then in came Christine.
@@christinemarie309 great question
Anyone who says "my way or the highway" damn well better be driving the car.
Robin may be the golden child now but, she needs to be careful! Kody is running out of scapegoats her time is coming!
I hope he marries her oldest daughter!
Exactly! It's like the old saying: if he'll cheat with you, he'll cheat on you. Except with Kody it's; if he'll discard her for you, he'll discard you too.
Not sure he wants more kids. Once it’s just him & Robyn they will only have each other to fight with! That would be crazy if he married Robyn’s daughter.
@@Candy-O1776 What? Is that a rumour?
You can never win you play dirty!! KARMA WILL GET HER GOOD AND COOTER TOO !!!! might as well throw in MESSY MERI ! 🤣 🤷
You don't demand RESPECT, you Earn it!
Amen!
Absolutely!!!
Bingo!
If he was respectable, he’d have it.
Why did Robyn need a nanny when she doesn’t work outside the home. What a Princess!!
So she can sleep all day!
It took every ounce of Janelle’s self control not to roll her eyes when he was taking about Robyn’s loyalty.
When he lean in to her. He is purposely invading her space to intimidate her
Yeah, it made me uncomfortable
Agree...that was quite aggressive.
Definitely. He's a bully. Intimidating.
I wanted to smack his face
Quite triggering for me!!!
I can't believe how awful he is being to Janelle. I'm heartbroken for her 😥
Me too. She’s a great woman though- I’m hopeful she’ll break free and live a way better life!
Me too. He uses words that cut to the bone! It's bad enough that he says such things at all, but to verbally gut Christine and now Janelle is mortifying. With each of them he's pretty much claiming that him marrying them was the equivalent of a "pity f*ck" and I can't imagine what that does to a woman who gave him 30 years and six beautiful children. I hope Christine and Janelle are rewarded with lives filled with joy, love and compassion from here on out. 🐦✌🏼🌍
I have another point of view to offer. Put aside the any feelings about Robyn. Look at how Kody treats Robyn. If Kody treated all of his wives as he treats Robyn, can you imagine how how “loyal” Janelle, Meri and Christine would’ve been? Kody instead tells the three other wives that he doesn’t even love them and wants them to suffer like he had to since he never loved the other wives- which are things he literally has said. This is pure madness.
EXACTLY!!! It amazes me he can't see that they all WANTED his love, they were all loyal at one point but then HE became disloyal to THEM
Its been years since I saw the very early episodes, but I remember Kody making it clear to us that Janelle was his financial partner, that he and Janelle went to work every day to support the family. And one of them mentioned Janelle wrote the checks and managed the money that the two of them brought home. So it really burns that he is turning on Janelle now. I hope he gets his just rewards.
Like an IRS investigation
Great video, I was in a beautiful marriage before my now ex wife left me,i still love her and most times i can't stop thinking about her, i am doing my very best to get rid of the thought of her, but i just can't, i love her so much, i don't know why i am bring this here for, i can't stop thinking about her
it's always difficult to let go of someone you love, i was in a similar situation my wife for 12 years left me, i couldn't just let her go i did all i could to get her back, i had to seek the help of a spiritual adviser who helped me bring her back.
@@haynesatteh4463 wow, how did you get a spiritual adviser, and how do i reach her?
@@bartholetbay412 her name is MIRIAM CHAMANI DIETRICH, and she is a great spiritual adviser as well as caster who can bring her back
@@haynesatteh4463 congrats Haynes on your two separate accounts. Hmmm funny how the other "person" automatically knew it was a woman. Lol nice try
Well, if Robyn wants a plural marriage so bad, Kody's gonna have to replace C&J with some young sweet baby bearing wives! 😂 Bet she could squeeze out some real tears then. 😭 😂
I think that is exactly why she is upset….threatened!
As long as they're able-bodied and work to support her, and she is the number one, LEGAL wife-in-charge, she'd be fine with it, I think.
I think at that point if she couldn’t be the tyrannical bully head wife she’d divorce him and take him for all she can get! Retirement income without having worked!
Janelle financially supported Robyn! They were struggling and Robyn's bill got paid, she got her own rental, and oh yeah she got a nanny. She would not let the other kids take food from her house. I mean Robyn contributed NOTHING to the family and sunk all their money into the failure that was my Sisters Wives Closet.
Which that closet is closed
And Coyote Pass too.
I've never seen the other wives be mean to Robyn. Kody is nuts and a narcissist!!!
Robyn can’t even look at the camera when saying “I didn’t kno kody was telling Janelle to apologize to me!” She’s looking everywhere else but the camera. 😂
Liars can’t look you in the eye!
Janelle is my favorite and it sickens me how Kody can be so disrespectful to such a hard working fabulous mother and wife. She is clearly easy going and a total sweetheart. What is his problem! I can see her heart breaking in half in this conversation
There is literally NUMEROUS times where Robyn was beyond offensive. You have hit every nail on the head. Robyn rejected them JUST as much if not more.
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If Janelle hasn't left Kody, she needs to asap. If he can't appreciate what Janelle has done for the family. Giving you all these beautiful children and grandkids. She worked hard to provide financially for the whole family, something you could never do. If she waited for you to make the decisions that need to be made, she'd wait forever. Screw you Kody, Janelle can do so much better than you.
I think she wants land and what’s owed to her.
Talking about Janelle weight is the reason Robin is picking up every pound Janelle lose. 😂😂
Wow if I was Janelle I would have given him lunch...all of it on his face at the same time!!! He's so disrespectful 😤 😭
HAHAHAHAHA. Robyn working hard at trying to appear sad.
Not only did Robyn comment on Janelle’s weight but on Christine’s age. I was watching season 2 when Robyn, Mari & Janelle are on the couch talking to the camera and Janelle mentions Christine having a hard time since Truly was born and Robyn says “well I heard it’s harder when your old or older having babies.” 🤬
That was really ugly!
Wow! What a bitchy comment! I missed that one.
How can Kody say that when they paid Robyn’s bills entering the family and Janelle and Meri gave her the $$$ from there house to buy her house. They ended up in Flagstaff because of Robyn.
Exactly! And Sobyn didn't appreciate a damn bit of it. She just feels entitled to it.
Ditto! Also, Kody wouldn’t ask for an apology to Robyn if they didn’t discuss it already! 🙄
How do you sleep at night?? I would feel like a free loader.
@Stephanie D I'm sorry to disagree. Sobyn is very secure in her position. She strolled into that family with 4 extra mouths to feed and house and a mountain of debt. She felt perfectly entitled to having the other wives work to support her lifestyle. And she got a million dollar home out of it.
She is actually very financially secure now that she has the legal marriage. Now she owns at least half of everything the other wives built. Janelle owns nothing but contributed the most. I feel bad for Janelle because she is the one who bought into all of this and invested the most financially, but has nothing to show for it. Kody is lying and trying to make her feel like she isn’t “loyal” to him while he is sitting with sobyn in a house Janelle bought for them while she lives in an RV. The big problem here is the legal paperwork. It doesn’t matter who worked and paid for the house. It only matters whose name is on the deed.
Janelle could have said, 'Ok, You want me to be more like Robin, I'll quit my job tomorrow and move in with the two of you.'. 😁 I'd love to see his reaction to that!
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Right 🤣🤣🤣
I'd love to see Robyn's reaction to that idea. She really should suggest that she is going to move in with him and Robin because she put so much money into that house that it's partly hers. That would be so fun to watch!!!
@@followmyuniverse5155 that would mean Robyn would have to clean her home….which she’s never done. That’s why they don’t film in her house. Go back to season 1…it’s always a mess
@@followmyuniverse5155 I agree!
Kody wants their MONEY!!!! I call BS on the crap he's feeding Janelle and Meri staying is completely ridiculous as well.
Her boys don't need to apologize for a damn thing they spoke absolute truth
Robyn is the type of manipulative and controlling that is scary. Robyn is subtle and creepy. Her daughters are becoming this way too. Kody is so snowed by her back door tactics that he doesn't realize how everything he says has been put in his mind by this one woman. She seems to be sociopathic.
There is nothing in me that believes that Sobin Robin isn't part of what Kody is doing with Janelle. I believe Sobin Robin runs Kody! And it may be with what Sobin Robin lets Kody think, like he's the king and can do whatever he wants. But don't get it twisted Sobin Robin is running things Kody just doesn't know.
I agree. That's why she gets everything she wants. She's a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Agreed
I've said this for years. It's so obvious she's the one in charge. I don't understand how some people can't see it. Some people believe that she's a submissive, innocent, meek wife that Kody is abusing. She's the one that has his balls in her purse. He's her puppet and does everything she tells him to.
Janelle is not a fool. She knows what Kody is and what he's playing at. He wants her out of the family but he wants to get as much of her money as he can before she goes. That is why he's trying to get her to buy Christine's old house. But Janelle knows that if she gets to build her house on Coyote Pass, she will have a bigger equity in her name, The only question in my mind is how long she can endure his nonsense and can she endure until she gets what she deserves.
She needs a lawyer ASAP!
I feel really bad for Janelle.She just can't catch a break at all.
They need a forensic accountant and a good divorce/ family lawyer to straighten this mess out.
Each of the other wives need compensation for themselves and their children.
I am heartbroken for Janelle. She deserves some one so much better
Robyn needs to apologize for sleeping with Kody while they were dating.
It truly is all about the sex and attention. He gave plenty of everyday affection to the first three but I believe it was the intimacy and sex that they were all probably missing even before Robyn. When she entered the picture, he got some fresh ass and it was GOODNIGHT to the other three ladies.
Remember how Robyn told Christine she was not divorced until she slept with another man. Well this, Robyn sleeping with Kody while they were dating is very plausible, as then it made her a divorced woman who could get engaged to Kody. Using Robyn's twisted logic.
Robyn says she wanted desperately to be a part of this family, but she wanted Kody's affection and the other wives to pay for everything. She could have been telling Kody he's not being fair to his other wives by spending all his time with her. Instead she monopolizes all his time. She is deceptive.
Exactly. She wasn't striving and working towards her sister wives relationships. She was only striving to monopolize Cody and for a free ride.
I agree 100%.
Good point! "Desperate" is such a weird word choice. She was in a desperate situation maybe as a single mom with three kids & no skills to make money. She might have been desperate to come off to the camera that she wanted to be a part of the family.
I think he really did feel this way in the beginning. I also think his favorite wife has been in his ear telling him you shouldn't put up with that. You're the head of the household.
Exactly!
Agree totaly
I agree! I think Robyn is the one who believes in patriarchy
The Kody doesn't know how to.be.head of the family.
Agree! Surely the S** isn’t that good! Lol
Does anyone remember when he told Meri that he wouldn’t cross a burning bridge to save her. That one has no loyalty but to himself and Robyn.
I think his “loyalty” to Robyn will only last while Robyn is obedient
@@TheTessBear and while she is the only object of his affection. She'd better watch out if any younger or prettier woman comes into the family.
Robyn will get his social security and I wonder if Dayton is collecting disability payments from Kody’s social security. Getting Mary to divorce so he could marry Robyn was a calculated stroke of genius in my opinion.
Dayton has never had a formal evaluation. Robyn is the one who labeled him as autistic. For SSA to award disability payments, there must be extensive forms filled out by doctors and teachers. And as high-functioning as he is, he still might not qualify. I'm a retired Special Educator who was cross-trained by SSA and Rehab services. From watching him on the show, and seeing how articulate he is, I just don't think he'd qualify. There's only a small amount of $$$ available, and kids with more challenging disabilities would qualify first.
Kody has done a complete 180 since the beginning. He’s portraying plural marriage now exactly as he said it wasn’t when the show first aired. It was fun to watch the family dynamic at first… now, it’s like watching an episode of Escaping Polygamy. When Janelle leaves, I’m done. I’m not gonna sit here and watch him con more women into his harem.
I don't think Kory wants more wives. I don't think he wants a polygamous lifestyle anymore. He wants only Robin and their life together. He wants to keep all the assets the other wives brought him...properties, money, etc. He and Robyn are set in their mansion, complete with nanny (for what reason?? Who knows), the property which will stay with them and the other women and children (his children...not by adoption) he is getting rid of. He has adopted Robyn's three children ( which at least two are adults) and they have a nice little set up for themselves.
I feel so bad for all the children that he has no life with, because, they are not Robyn's children. Robyn is a major manipulator (don't care how she learned it), she and that narcissist should not be on tv any longer. They are getting paid to do what they have done to that family.
I was done when they moved from Vegas…..forcing those kids to move at such a critical time in their lives and for what? There was no plan for the immediate future , just some pipe dream for the coyote pass kingdom. The kids have never been a priority to Kody, only Robyn’s kids. I follow woacb to see how the family members are doing, I won’t watch TLC promote this kind of abusive behavior and treatment of women and children….
@@nancyshepherd2121 I agree, I also agree he is showing who he really is now as well.
@Nancy yes!! Kody won't take more wives. It's all Robyn and Kody in a monogamous marriage. That's that. All done... time to move to new people who truly live the lifestyle!
As hateful as he's being, this should be his last season - and Robyn's too. It's time for Just Christine and Janelle. Meri only if she leaves them too.
Not only did Robyn expect to be the "queen", but expected the other 3 wives to go to work and support her and her children.
And they did!
When we met kody years ago and he had that 2 seater car. I knew he was selfish with the litter of children 🙄
As the wind blew through his Ramen noodles. Ah yes, I remember
My husband said the same thing. He was watching the pilot episode with me and 1 minute in, as soon as he saw the 2 seater, my husband says” He has 3 wives and expecting his 13th child? And he is driving a 2 seater? His father has failed him. No worthy husband would think this would ever be a good idea.”
@@becky9103 exactly. Lol holding on to those strands with all his might
@@christinapfeifer4218 exactly. Selfish. Guess that's what got robyn
@@becky9103 😂🍜 🌬️
Omg lets not forget when the family went to that march to help legalize polygamy.. Christine was going to give Robyn full custody of her children if Christine got arrested... And Kody says Christine didn't get along with Robyn??? I feel so bad for Janelle cause Kody is taking all his frustrations out on her now...
I had forgotten that! When hasn't Janelle been loyal to the family all these 30 some years?
Janelle's question if Kody would defend her as he defends Robyn was a good one. But of course, he didn't answer it. Deflect, deny, blame and gaslight...
He doesn't know the meaning of loyalty.
No, he certainly doesn't
@@christinemarie309 many many times they should have already
Exactly!
it’s almost like Kody is trying to push Janelle out of the family. He only wants Robyn, he’s already told Meri she should leave
Yes, he can't man up and say that he only wants Robin. Either he's a coward or his beliefsystem doesn't allow him to divorce his wives. The man is living a lie & is allowing himself to turn into an abusive ahole. No standards for his own behavior, no integrity. I think secretly he's revealed that Christine left. He initially spoke abt not having to carry the burden of a loveless marriage. Kody only wants one wife, all the money and full control. To have the freedom to build his family with Robin at the expense of the rest of the family/world. It's him and Robin against the world.
Kody is out of line, and Robyn is a taker. Just pay Janelle what she is owed by both of you so she can leave your narcissistic world.
Janelle needs to get a lawyer and sue for her piece of the property and show the total scam Cody has pulled on everyone of the wives (except Sobin Robin)
Hold up! When Meri said Kody wasn’t there when she needed him for repairs or whatever, he said he had other wives and couldn’t be with any of his wives ALL the time! Now he doesn’t want Janelle to be “like a single woman”!
I think Janelle felt secure in her position in the family. She underestimated Robyn's powers of evil because she had already overcome Meri and didn't think anyone could be worse than that.
Its literally sick how he can't or won't see how he favors and only actually loves sobyn. Like.....does he actually believe himself or he's just so arrogant he thinks the entirety of the audience is so dumb we can't see his lies??
Either way, it's sick. Like beyond therapy sick
I love that name Sobyn!!! Lmao
He's a textbook narcissist. If they can't control you or no longer need you, they will destroy you.
When he leaned in aggressively, she should have stopped the conversation and told him to back up.
Kody is a freaking jerk baby
Yes! I completely would have said 'full stop. I think the freak not. You need to back all the way the f up and try that again like a damn adult'. Who the hell does he think he is??!
@@dosbabymama The BOSS, that's who he thinks he is...
EXACTLY!
@@gottabme boss baby
Janelle, you go girl!! Keep telling Kody how it is! He refuses to see the way Robyn has treated the kids or see the way she has always gotten special treatment from Kody. I'm ready for the spin-off "Leaving Polygamy: Christine and Janelle"
Amen!❤️👵
Kody wants Janelle's money and he doesn't want another blow to his ego like when Christine left. He will string Janelle along claiming "she's not loyal enough" for eternity while he bleeds her dry and constantly changes the goal posts. There is simply NOTHING she can do to get a similar relationship w/ Kody like Robyn has. Because Kody is not attracted to Janelle, because she's overweight, because her kids are grown and don't idolize Kody, blah blah blah. He will never again be intimate w/ her. Janelle please move on!
You ever notice that Kody talks about Robyn's kids as HIS kids but Christine and Janelle's kids are Christine's kids and Janelle's kids. Wondered if anyone noticed that.
Kody needs to watch his own show lol.
Yep, noticed that too. It's gross.
Loyalty... as if she hasn't given him all of her money over 30 years? Didn't they pay off Robyn's 32k debt. They moved to Flagstaff because Robyn's son was going to college. It's honestly disgusting to see them now live in a mansion (paid for by Meri & janelle) with Robyn's adult children. From Truley to Ysabel to Janelle's boys, I just do NOT understand.
Omg. Right?! It was already a shocker that Janelle gave half of her proceeds to Robyn for this house, then Meri says she gave ALL?!
You know it's only because Meri and Robyn are close. It's shocking. They couldn't give her money to put down on the B&B, but Meri gives all of that to Robyn for this 900k home?! Kody is such an ass. And Kody was shocked when Meri didn't want the family involved in the B&B because she did it on her own! 🙄🙄🙄
Didn’t Kody say each relationship is different and you need to keep them separate and not compare the marriages? He yelled at Christine earlier this season for comparing her marriage to Robyn’s (but he then went on to compare their marriage to Meri’s 🙄). He’s got his own set of rules that apply to him but no one else.
RUN REALLY REALLY FAST JANELLE 🏃♀️
RUN JANELLE RUN but don't leave until Cayote pass is sold and you get your portion. Kotex is an a jerk for sure.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE , JANELLE LOOK AFTER YOURSELF , YOU DONT HAVE TO CHANGE , YOU ARE A BEAUTIFUL PERSON 💐
My God if we don't get a reunion with "Janet in Idaho wants to point out your hypocrisy," "Megan in Monroe wants to know why she doesn't work".. I am gonna have a stroke..
This 💯
Lol yes indeed have Andy hosts. I can see him saying "well yeah Robyn you kind of did" when she tries to deflect.
Excuse me…does anyone else see that Kody has shown in more ways than one that he wants one wife and that’s Robyn….the others are just to be his silent inactive partners! Good for the ladies who decide to move on. Mary is fooling herself if she thinks her loyalty is appreciated by Kody… get your own life Mary…he has even stated you should move on!
I agree, I think hes trying to make it so that they leave one by one. So it can just be Robyn. Be easier to blame them and he not look bad. He's a jerk
Kathy, I've been saying this all along!
But be my money partner, he’s sick and Meri is just stupid enough to do that.
Yep they should rename it to one wife and the sister slaves.
Robyn actually ran everything. They moved to Flagstaff because her son was going to school there. Robyn should apologize to Gabriel and Gwendolyn for forcing them to sacrifice their scholarships. The list goes on and on. Janelle is terrific; she saw the handwriting on the wall when Robyn joined the family and made a life for herself and her kids.
And I think her kid quit school
@@Rwhisper-sy9qu Dayton is still in college and is doing well. My biggest problem with the move was the lack of compromise. Gabriel and Gwen were seniors and should have been able to take full advantage of those scholarships. All Robyn and Kody had to do was postpone the move a year.
Robyn came in like a hurricane, pretending to be a constant Damsel in distress. I don't think any of the wives were less loyal. She needed a Honeymoon! I think Christine needed a husband at that time! Kody's loyalty extends only to Sobyn Robyn!
This while ‘you act like an independent woman’ thing is because Robyn reported back to Kody that Janelle was never at home when she made he random check ins
Janelle said, “whole DAMNED day!” Get it, Janelle. Throw it all out there. Janelle is my favorite and I hope she chooses herself from now on. (Love Christine too.)
Even his kids are abandoning him. I wonder if he'll ever clue in that he was the problem.
He won't. Remember, It's Christine's fault.
He won't , he believes he is superior, it's always someone else's fault.
@@christagermany right and now the issues with he and Janelle are her fault. It’s not ever the fault of the real problem which is Kody.
I would tell Kody next time he needs money to go get it from his loyal wife
Perfect‼️‼️
So very pregnant Christine freaked out when she learned they sealed the engagement with a kiss, but they just kept kissing anyway throughout the whole engagement? They are both such jerks.
I think it was more than kissing...not that they would admit to it.
🤣🤣🤣 her actions never match her words.
“I was upset because I knew that I had hurt you” Robyn, sobbing 😭
*does it again while Christine’s in labor*
@@roxannepetersen4889I agree, I think she jumped in bed with him the first week they were dating, in her Victoria Secret
“Your not loyal” just means “you won’t help me alienate Christine from the family”.
I love your reports on Sister Wives. Used to be able to receive TLC here in London but can't, for some reason receive it, so hence why I treasure your reports. Big thank you. It's just so hard to believe that these woman stayed with him for more than 10 years, if that. Well done to Christine and Janelle for up and leaving and livi g their lives as independent women. Upset with Meri as thought she would have up and gone by now. Keep up the great work.
Marian fron London
I think Robyn knew her parenting was sub par or strange and if Christine babysat she would know. A nanny will do what she's told and is not allowed to discuss family matters.
The nanny is also like her cousin or something so more likely to keep hush
That young girl looks neglected
@@Rwhisper-sy9qu The mullet? WTF is with Ariella's mullet? Poor girl...she's so precious.
There is an untold story about Robyn and why she is unable to care for children during the day. I think she has to sleep a large portion of the day as Arielle is up all night. Not sure what is going on with that little one but she is definitely a unicorn and a real handful
@@flamesgirlable9903 so is Christine to her three oldest
I see the horror and hurt on jenalles face as cootie says the most demeaning things about her and her 30 year marriage (to him). As strong as she's been, she is not without heart and feelings that her marriage WAS worth something. cootie is a toad. i hope some day some one treats him just as poorly as he has treated the women (except for sobbin).
Robyn's eyebrows say it all.....she knew Kody was going to tell Janelle to apologize.
I believe you when you say her eyebrows said that, cause those things are ALIVE and have a mind of their own!!! They're like the fifth sister wife.
@@becky9103. Lol! The 5th sister wife! 😂
Screw him
How dare Robyn! Janelle gave Robyn the money she made from her home in Vegas. As well as Meri who also gave Robyn money from the sale of her house in Vegas. Robyn is lazy and doesn’t work but takes money from all the wives. It’s absolutely ridiculous and they all need to sue Robyn and Cody.
@@becky9103 😅😂🤣
Robin doesn't do as Kody says. She makes Kody think the thoughts she puts in his head are his ideas. When Kody talked to Robin about Christine. You could see he looks to her to tell him what to do. So it's been going on for awhile.
He looked like a dog waiting for Robyn to throw him a bone🦴
Kody has not had an independent thought in decades!