Awesome job. I've been struggling to find a medium between "American tourist who studied a phrasebook" pronunciation, and "Overly dramaticized cave shaman" pronunciation. This one hits the spot, especially with the laryngeals and the palatalized velars. Only a few comments: the prosody is a bit strange at times, with tones sometimes jumping weirdly, or the rhythm sounding a bit robotic. I would pay more attention the stress accents of the vowels. For example in the very first line, , it seemed like you pronounced the stress pattern as high-low high-low, whereas the stress accents indicate it more as high-low low-high. There were only a few places in the reading where the stress pattern was off though. I also would have preferred some more fully trilled [r]'s in certain places, but that's just a personal touch. Overall though this is an excellent rendition.
Remember the prophecy brother. Our forefathers have passed it down from generation to generation. “No one… outs ..the hut 🛖” ..Or something like that. Then we end the prophecy with an ancient and holy word that only the ancestors know… “Pitsah” 🙏
In fact all those Indo European languages came out by a mix with other peoples they found in the territory were they arrives! And your common original languages changes centuries later in many different way wen the mix etno cultural was completed! 👍🙏
@@accaeffe8032 Finnish, Estonian, and Hungarian are the largest spoken Uralic languages, but there are others such as the Sami languages. Basque is most likely just an Iberian language, the Iberian languages were languages that made Spanish, along with Latin. Basque is the only one left in its group.
Thanks for this! Seems like all of the other recordings were hamming it up way too much or like the narrator was being recorded under water. I don't know much about the linguistic features, but the audio is perfect haha.
Thank you, Dan! I strove to make the Reading sound as close as possible to a natural spoken language, something that you could relate to and theoretically be "spoken on the streets" even nowadays. Some readings make it sound too stiff and solemn, almost like a "magical formula", not a language that was once spoken by herders, farmers and cookers. ;-)
Gen Z version: Aight check it, on a hill a sheep that got no drip saw horses, one pulling a heavy ass wagon, one carrying a big ass load, and one carrying a dude. The sheep be all: "Yo look at this horse carrying guys lmao bussin no cap." The horses be like: "Bro shut you dumbass up, I ain't taking that from a sheep that has no wool. Yo dumbass master be shaving you to make coats for himself dude💀💀 where yo drip at, son?" The sheep yeeted himself into the plain with his massive L.
really interesting and sounds beautiful! Good job! This is the language that we all (slavic, romance, germanic, hellenic etc. languages speaking people) spoke. We're all brothers
When you think about it we all speak different dialects. My ancestors spoke Old Norse, other people's ancestors may have spoken something like Latin but at the end of the day they're all Indo-European languages.
Imagine being Arabic in an English class and just when you started to be able to read words aloud, they threw a paper with this down on yout desk and played this audio
as a Lithuanian I thought maybe I would recognise at least one word, but it seems that without knowing sound changes that's really hard. Anyway it's really fascinating that this language which later gave rise to other languages spread out so widely. edit: it seems I missed "tu", that is same as "you" in LT!
Funny! Yes, probably a coincidence, but an interesting one! I think "bhuged" is in fact really cognate of Portuguese "fugiu" and literary Italian "fuggì", via Latin "fugit", since PIE *bh usually corresponds to *f in Latin.
Ah yes, fugit, interesting. Maybe you would know something about this - In Russian and Polish there is a preposition "po" used when talking about speaking a language. I would say "ya govariyu po-russki" or "movym po-polsku" if I spoke those languages. In the Skandinivian languages there is the preposition "pa" with the broad diacritic mark over it. I would say something like "jeg taler pa-norsk". I wonder if these two prepositions are related or just parallel or convergent evolution.@@ygorcoelhos
@@davidbrewer9030interestingly po/по in Slavic are unrelated to North Germanic på; Slavic po comes from *h²po, the origin of Latin/German ab, English of & off, and North Germanic av/af. On the other hand, på comes from a contraction of Old Norse "upp" and "á", in a similar construction to English "upon" (if it had become something like 'pon).
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That's just one of the hypothesis used by linguists. The other, perhaps more traditional one (and perhaps inspired by the sole remnants of these phonemes in Hittite), is the one used here: h1 - [h]; h2 - [x]; h3 - labialized [xw].
In Portugal and Brazil we still use the proto indo european pronoun "túh₂, tī̆, tū̆, tuH, tíh₁, tu" (tu/tú in portuguese), this world derived from proto indo european and latin. It means "you, thou".
I bet it would sound like the child of speakers of Arabic and a Hindi speaking German with Polish pronunciation of every sound and Spanish/Italian passion and inflection. Unfortunately I don't think it would sound like this at all considering our languages are likely far more simplistic and 'bland' in nature today than this one would have been.
This sounds a lot like Chechen and Ingush, and sometimes like Circassian. The first sentence sounds super Chechen, especially the intonation. If you deepen your voice and I would hear from afar, I would think at first that Ramzan Kadyrov is saying something haha.
There have been hypotheses about the relationship between PIE and certain languages of the Caucasus, but usually the claim is about the Kartvelian languages like Georgian, which isn't related to Chechen. Who knows, there could be some connection there. Just can't be proven because it was too long ago.
well i think alot ov things about the language arent fully known (the excact pronounciatioms ov h1 h2 & h3 for example) & iirc the grammer iz pretty complex, that combined with no speakers or no prestige (like latin) means most folk would avoid learning it but its well known enough to where someone has probably tried. probably failed tho
Well, we could construct SOMETHING but there is no real way to know how correct it would be. There's a lot we don't know about the language and likely never will to any high degree of certainty. The only way to actually learn the language would be either if it was written down (which as far we know it never was) or if we had a time machine.
I think the biggest struggle besides what everyone else has said about authenticity, is that it would actually take at least two people to become fluent in this for them to use it as a working language
proof that Baltic is the closest to proto-Indo-European?? Like, is there any written record?? Religious script that may have been preserved to this day? Cave writings? Anything?
It really sounds like Ancient Greek, Classical Latin and Gaulish, mixed with Russian, Persian, Sanskrit and Hindi/Urdu... lol ghwérmom - is like "warm" in English and "warm" (pronounced "varm") in German, and گرم "garm" in Persian and गरम "garam" in Hindi/Urdu, which was taken from Persian, both meaning "warm"..... uéstrom - is like "vest" in English and "vestido" in Spanish (meaning "dress"), which both come from the Latin "vestis", meaning "garment", or "robe", and are cognate with the Sanskrit वस्त्र "vastra", meaning "clothes", or "garments"..... so "gwhérmom uéstrom" is like "warm vest", or "गरम वस्त्र" (garam vastra) in Hindi (although in normal speech, in Hindi, you would never say that... you would say गरम कपड़े "garam kapde", for "warm clothes")
The Swedish words for ”horse”, in some inflections at least, and ofc “you” sound almost the same, häst/du, but other than that it need more in depth 🤷🏼♂️
that's like guessing the melody of a greek shepherd's folk song from 550 BC .... or the melody of an egyptian pharaoh's burial dirge from the 3rd dynasty
No, it isn't, because melodies don't evolve over time through mostly regular and periodic sound changes that can be described, compared and reconstructed backwards, nor do they evolve in such a way that they leave descendant melodies that can be checked alongside each other to see their commonalities and how exactly the bits that changed diverged over time. So, you are proposing a totally false symmetry
It seems to be more function over form, since no one is actually learning or speaking this reconstruction, and because they want to leave room for our lack of knowledge. Like the subscripts after the h's: I've heard it said that there are a few ideas what each of those back consonants could be, so they're just written with the subscript. But I agree, it's very ugly.
to be fair to PIE, there's more evidence behind it than Altaic, which overreached in trying to link Japanese, Korean, Tungusic, Mongolic, and Turkic together. there's much more of an affinity between Sanskrit and Latin than there is between Proto-Japonic and Old Turkic.
@@metempsychosis4062 indeed, however there is also the fact that almost none the proposed "Altaic" languages have proper text references older than the 8th century, leaving the origins of those languages shrouded in mystery. (E.g. first found written Turkic text - 732-735, first found written Japanese text - 712). Furthermore, there's a new "Transeurasian Languages" hypothesis that builds up on the Altaic hypothesis using archaeological and genetic evidence. Current progress on this hypothesis suggests that the Proto-Transeurasian people lived in the area around the Liao River.
@@Sonilotos Indeed, Transeurasian is more promising than Altaic, but IIRC it only includes Mongolic, Turkic and Tungusic, which culturally, linguistically and archaeogenetically do make a lot more sense having a very deep common origin around the Amur or Liao river.
@@ygorcoelhos yes, the main theory strictly includes only those three. My example for the Japanese text finding was just to emphasise on how the general "Transeurasia" region's languages don't have proper text examples that date back very far, and thus how we can't currently deem any genetical relation between those languages "objectively nonexistent". Doesn't mean they are related, but then again, absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.
But that's EXACTLY what the Laryngeal Theory confirmed when Hittite inscriptions were found and deciphered proposes. Early PIE, from before Proto-Anatolian split, was full of h-like sounds.
@@ygorcoelhos Is it possible that Proto-Indo-European is the ancestor of a much older, bigger language family or was it originally a language isolate with no relatives?
@@ygorcoelhosthe problem isn't with PIE itself; it's with how IELF is treated like an irrefutable fact by linguist mostly of Indo-European language backgrounds, meanwhile denying the existence of most other larger language family theories, and especially the ones that would have as much cultural and historical significance as the IELF. As much as there is obviously scientific methods for the proofs (or lack thereof), I can't help but think there is also, to an extent, a bias involved in the process.
Sanskrit was spoken at least 2,000 years after PIE. Believing PIE would have sounded just like Sanskrit is an ideological, not a logical nor scientific, conclusion
I will never understand why linguists made up such a horrible nonsense-looking spelling for PIE even when they were in full control of what what characters and diacritics they were going to use 🤦♂ .
What are some of your main quibbles with the pronunciation? I mean, specific mistakes on the forms of vowels and consonants. I'd be interested to learn more about it.
Your English is also cringeworthy. If real living languages aren't your thing, no wonder you can't even possibly understand what historical linguistics is about and how methods of linguistic reconstruction work. 💁🏻♂️🤷♂️
Awesome job. I've been struggling to find a medium between "American tourist who studied a phrasebook" pronunciation, and "Overly dramaticized cave shaman" pronunciation. This one hits the spot, especially with the laryngeals and the palatalized velars.
Only a few comments: the prosody is a bit strange at times, with tones sometimes jumping weirdly, or the rhythm sounding a bit robotic. I would pay more attention the stress accents of the vowels. For example in the very first line, , it seemed like you pronounced the stress pattern as high-low high-low, whereas the stress accents indicate it more as high-low low-high. There were only a few places in the reading where the stress pattern was off though.
I also would have preferred some more fully trilled [r]'s in certain places, but that's just a personal touch.
Overall though this is an excellent rendition.
real
We've reached a point where some people are correcting others about how a language from 5000 years ago should be better pronounced
@@osasunaitor how a RECONSTRUCTED language from 5000 years ago should be better pronounced*******
@@spawel1 exactly
@@osasunaitoryes because its a video
WE MAKING IT OUT THE HUT WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥🗿
Remember the prophecy brother. Our forefathers have passed it down from generation to generation.
“No one… outs ..the hut 🛖” ..Or something like that. Then we end the prophecy with an ancient and holy word that only the ancestors know… “Pitsah” 🙏
no not the hut ☠️
WE MAKIN IT OUT THE NEOLITHIC WITH THIS ONE
this recording actually sounds like someone speaking a language
Imagine that, Danish, English, German, Swedish, Norwegian, Frisian, polish, Russian, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Slovak, Czech, Serbo-Croat, Bulgarian, Greek, Armenian, Albanian, French, Italian, Spanish, Romanian, Catalonian, Galacian, Portuguese, Welsh, Irish, Scottish, Bretagne language, Kurdish, Persian, Luri, Balochi, Tajik/Dari, Pashto, Punjabi, Hindi, Urdu, Pali and several Indo-aryan languages, Latvian, Lithuanian, developed out of this sole proto-language 😮
In fact all those Indo European languages came out by a mix with other peoples they found in the territory were they arrives! And your common original languages changes centuries later in many different way wen the mix etno cultural was completed! 👍🙏
Though, most of those languages, unlike PIE, are pronounceable.
Imagine how special Finns, Estonians, Hungarians and Basques must feel 😊
@@accaeffe8032 Finnish, Estonian, and Hungarian are the largest spoken Uralic languages, but there are others such as the Sami languages. Basque is most likely just an Iberian language, the Iberian languages were languages that made Spanish, along with Latin. Basque is the only one left in its group.
It's just a theory
Thanks for this! Seems like all of the other recordings were hamming it up way too much or like the narrator was being recorded under water. I don't know much about the linguistic features, but the audio is perfect haha.
Thank you, Dan! I strove to make the Reading sound as close as possible to a natural spoken language, something that you could relate to and theoretically be "spoken on the streets" even nowadays. Some readings make it sound too stiff and solemn, almost like a "magical formula", not a language that was once spoken by herders, farmers and cookers. ;-)
Gen Z version:
Aight check it, on a hill a sheep that got no drip saw horses,
one pulling a heavy ass wagon,
one carrying a big ass load,
and one carrying a dude.
The sheep be all:
"Yo look at this horse carrying guys lmao bussin no cap."
The horses be like:
"Bro shut you dumbass up, I ain't taking that from a sheep that has no wool. Yo dumbass master be shaving you to make coats for himself dude💀💀 where yo drip at, son?"
The sheep yeeted himself into the plain with his massive L.
really interesting and sounds beautiful! Good job!
This is the language that we all (slavic, romance, germanic, hellenic etc. languages speaking people) spoke. We're all brothers
Well, except *that* guy. He's the mail caveman's kid.
When you think about it we all speak different dialects. My ancestors spoke Old Norse, other people's ancestors may have spoken something like Latin but at the end of the day they're all Indo-European languages.
@@Gray-Wolf-024 That's truly fascinating!
@@alwaysdreaming9604 It's a good way of looking at things I think. Less divisive.
@@Gray-Wolf-024 definitely so!
I also like to think of humans in general as kind of brothers because technically we are
all i know is theres "tu" in 0:20 so the man with a weird language is saying something directed at us.
It's the horse saying something directed to the sheep
Imagine being Arabic in an English class and just when you started to be able to read words aloud, they threw a paper with this down on yout desk and played this audio
as a Lithuanian I thought maybe I would recognise at least one word, but it seems that without knowing sound changes that's really hard. Anyway it's really fascinating that this language which later gave rise to other languages spread out so widely.
edit: it seems I missed "tu", that is same as "you" in LT!
Also in Spanish "tú" and other Romance languages
Sounds like "du" in Swedish and German and... It's almost as if these were all related at some point!?
I thought of old English "thou"
We have the exact same "tu" word in Hindustani (Hindi/Urdu).
tu iz also where english thou comes from, but thats not in use in standard dialects anymore
From a sanskrit speaker: you nailed the voiced aspirates❤❤
Best spoken pie on the INTERNET
Sounds eerily like speaking in reverse
That first line sounds georgous
Compare with Proto Celtic :
Ówis éqoi-k(h)e.
Ówis, qésjo wlənā ne est,
éqos skhekét, óinom barúm wokhom wékhontam, óinom-k(h)e məgam bórom, óinom-k(h)e d(okh)óniom ōku bérontam.
Ówis nu éqobos wewqét: “Krid ágnutor mai, éqos ágontom wírom wídanti”.
Éqoi tu wewqónt: “Kludí, ówi! krid ágnutor ansméi wídantbjos: ner, phótis, ówjom-ri wlənām
sébi germóm wéstrom qrunéuti“.
Ówjom-k(h)e wlanā ne ésti. Tod kéluwos ówis ágrom bugét.
OMG it's the same
Ah just like the good ol’ days
The last word, bhuged, I think is translated as '"fled". In colloquial English "to bug out" is to suddenly leave. Probably just a coincidence.
Funny! Yes, probably a coincidence, but an interesting one! I think "bhuged" is in fact really cognate of Portuguese "fugiu" and literary Italian "fuggì", via Latin "fugit", since PIE *bh usually corresponds to *f in Latin.
Ah yes, fugit, interesting. Maybe you would know something about this - In Russian and Polish there is a preposition "po" used when talking about speaking a language. I would say "ya govariyu po-russki" or "movym po-polsku" if I spoke those languages. In the Skandinivian languages there is the preposition "pa" with the broad diacritic mark over it. I would say something like "jeg taler pa-norsk". I wonder if these two prepositions are related or just parallel or convergent evolution.@@ygorcoelhos
In colloquial American. In English it’s meaningless.
@@davidbrewer9030interestingly po/по in Slavic are unrelated to North Germanic på;
Slavic po comes from *h²po, the origin of Latin/German ab, English of & off, and North Germanic av/af.
On the other hand, på comes from a contraction of Old Norse "upp" and "á", in a similar construction to English "upon" (if it had become something like 'pon).
@@sevenssymbols I see, thanks. I was thinking it was just coincidence, almost convergent evolution.
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Shouldn't h1 be a glottal stop, h2 a pharyngeal fricative, and h3 a pharyngeal fricative with lip rounding? Respectively, [ʔ], [ʕ] and [ʕʷ]?
That's just one of the hypothesis used by linguists. The other, perhaps more traditional one (and perhaps inspired by the sole remnants of these phonemes in Hittite), is the one used here: h1 - [h]; h2 - [x]; h3 - labialized [xw].
Wow, thanks! :)
@@Homoclassicus its also worth noting that h2 or h3 couldve been uvular, and that h3 couldve been voiced.
Sure, but note that h2 also changes adjacent e to a.
Saying that's just hypothesis like what your pretending to read is fact or written by the past lol not invented lol
In Portugal and Brazil we still use the proto indo european pronoun "túh₂, tī̆, tū̆, tuH, tíh₁, tu" (tu/tú in portuguese), this world derived from proto indo european and latin. It means "you, thou".
Imagine if every single language in Europe and a good chunk of the languages in Western Asia all had a baby lol
Those languages are the "children" of this one.
I bet it would sound like the child of speakers of Arabic and a Hindi speaking German with Polish pronunciation of every sound and Spanish/Italian passion and inflection.
Unfortunately I don't think it would sound like this at all considering our languages are likely far more simplistic and 'bland' in nature today than this one would have been.
Very interesting , as someone who is very interested in etymology this is one to keep !
That's a very good sample. One can see the 1st and 3rd persons, the difference between singular and plural...
WE BUILDING A ZIGGURAT TO GODS KINGDOM WITH THIS ONE BOYS 🗣️👌💥
This sounds a lot like Chechen and Ingush, and sometimes like Circassian. The first sentence sounds super Chechen, especially the intonation. If you deepen your voice and I would hear from afar, I would think at first that Ramzan Kadyrov is saying something haha.
There have been hypotheses about the relationship between PIE and certain languages of the Caucasus, but usually the claim is about the Kartvelian languages like Georgian, which isn't related to Chechen. Who knows, there could be some connection there. Just can't be proven because it was too long ago.
Хъаухэй Х1усмэй, дон
I wonder if any proto-Indo-European would have understood anything?
idk why i was expecting to understand anything "but i speak three indo-european languages" bruh
Yeah, same 😂
this is like how i image to westron
I wonder if anyone has learnt proto-Indo-European and has used it as an everyday working language?
well i think alot ov things about the language arent fully known (the excact pronounciatioms ov h1 h2 & h3 for example) & iirc the grammer iz pretty complex, that combined with no speakers or no prestige (like latin) means most folk would avoid learning it but its well known enough to where someone has probably tried. probably failed tho
Well, we could construct SOMETHING but there is no real way to know how correct it would be. There's a lot we don't know about the language and likely never will to any high degree of certainty. The only way to actually learn the language would be either if it was written down (which as far we know it never was) or if we had a time machine.
I think the biggest struggle besides what everyone else has said about authenticity, is that it would actually take at least two people to become fluent in this for them to use it as a working language
WE INVENTING MILK SHAKES WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🗣️
Very good subject
It would be interesting if a speaker of a baltic language could understand anything, as their languages are the closest to Indo-European
i speak Lithuanian and i did not understand anything, unsurprisingly
@@azoteowo9305
I'm disappointed. I really counted on you, and you let us all down
@@MrKarlozz Right? We should punish him for his failure
@@lativ3715
The fact he knows is punishment enough
proof that Baltic is the closest to proto-Indo-European?? Like, is there any written record?? Religious script that may have been preserved to this day? Cave writings? Anything?
All the transcontinental languages really evolved from this
Both linguistic and genetic evidence point to it.
Tfw Turkish/Turkic:
amazing
It really sounds like Ancient Greek, Classical Latin and Gaulish, mixed with Russian, Persian, Sanskrit and Hindi/Urdu... lol
ghwérmom - is like "warm" in English and "warm" (pronounced "varm") in German, and گرم "garm" in Persian and गरम "garam" in Hindi/Urdu, which was taken from Persian, both meaning "warm".....
uéstrom - is like "vest" in English and "vestido" in Spanish (meaning "dress"),
which both come from the Latin "vestis", meaning "garment", or "robe", and are cognate with the Sanskrit वस्त्र "vastra", meaning "clothes", or "garments".....
so "gwhérmom uéstrom" is like "warm vest", or "गरम वस्त्र" (garam vastra) in Hindi (although in normal speech, in Hindi, you would never say that... you would say गरम कपड़े "garam kapde", for "warm clothes")
Только "хули-нах" понял
im assuming english specifically has a problem even trying to understand this
nahh they spoke with numbers too!?💀💀
It seems you are one of those who mistake writing/script for language, evidently two totally different things
@@ygorcoelhos especially since the PIE writing system is a modern notation- it definitely didn't exist during the time PIE would've been spoken! :)
Anyone else remember this from Prometheus?
Nice
I find it interesting how the h sounds so Arabic at times
The "h" isn't unique to Arabic or even semetic languages. You can hear it in other languages like Circassion
Noo
No it doesn't. I am arab and sounds nothing like arabic.
Interesting
The Swedish words for ”horse”, in some inflections at least, and ofc “you” sound almost the same, häst/du, but other than that it need more in depth 🤷🏼♂️
me drunk asf trying to order a. beer
Cimmerian language?
funny how it kinda sounds like hungarian even though hungarian isnt an indo-european language
0:30
pootis
πυτισ
путис
Heavy tf2 spotted in the schleider's fable????
Про мать было лишнее...
Этот язык кажется слишком искаженным,что бы понять здесь что-либо.Хотя какие-то базовые понятия должны сходиться.
Sounds Celtic more than anything
that's like guessing the melody of a greek shepherd's folk song from 550 BC .... or the melody of an egyptian pharaoh's burial dirge from the 3rd dynasty
No, it isn't, because melodies don't evolve over time through mostly regular and periodic sound changes that can be described, compared and reconstructed backwards, nor do they evolve in such a way that they leave descendant melodies that can be checked alongside each other to see their commonalities and how exactly the bits that changed diverged over time. So, you are proposing a totally false symmetry
@@ygorcoelhos c'mon
Don't take the op that seriously.
And here is my orthographic version of the fable:
Xówis hécwōs-qe
Xówis yósmei xwĺhnex ne hést, hécwoms dedórce.
Tóm ɡ̈rxúm wój ̇om wéj ̇ontm, tóm méjxm ḃórom, tóm ḋj ̇mónm hohcú ḃérontm.
Xówis hécwoḃos wéuqet: “Cérd xġnutór mói,
ḋj ̇mónm hécwoms xéjontm widntéi.”
Hécwōs wéuqont: “Clnéu, xówi! Cérd xġnutór nós widntḃós: ḋj ̇mṓn, pótis, xéwis xwĺhnexm séḃi ɡ̈ ̇ormóm wéstrom qrnéuti, xéwyei-qe xwĺhnex ne hésti.”
Tód cecluwṓs, xówis xéjrom ḃugét.
The script looks messy imo
It seems to be more function over form, since no one is actually learning or speaking this reconstruction, and because they want to leave room for our lack of knowledge.
Like the subscripts after the h's: I've heard it said that there are a few ideas what each of those back consonants could be, so they're just written with the subscript.
But I agree, it's very ugly.
@@crusatyr1452 Really? It's pretty cool imo, like a writing system only us History nerds understand
It's the pronunciation of it not the actual one
@@crusatyr1452 Thanks for the explanation 🤝
It sounds too Germanic to me. I would've expected something more on the Sanskrit field with some little surprises here and there.
Agree, but I think it sounds too germanic because of the speakers existing accent.
@@WebDreamI don't speak a Germanic language natively
Kwth₁uļh₂ū fh₂tágwn!
/f/ didn't exist in PIE.
@@lofdanH. P. Lovecraft would thank you for that factoid (pactoid?). August Derlath would probably be less gracious.
It's as plausible as a theoretical Proto-Altaic language.
to be fair to PIE, there's more evidence behind it than Altaic, which overreached in trying to link Japanese, Korean, Tungusic, Mongolic, and Turkic together. there's much more of an affinity between Sanskrit and Latin than there is between Proto-Japonic and Old Turkic.
@@metempsychosis4062 indeed, however there is also the fact that almost none the proposed "Altaic" languages have proper text references older than the 8th century, leaving the origins of those languages shrouded in mystery. (E.g. first found written Turkic text - 732-735, first found written Japanese text - 712). Furthermore, there's a new "Transeurasian Languages" hypothesis that builds up on the Altaic hypothesis using archaeological and genetic evidence. Current progress on this hypothesis suggests that the Proto-Transeurasian people lived in the area around the Liao River.
@@Sonilotos Indeed, Transeurasian is more promising than Altaic, but IIRC it only includes Mongolic, Turkic and Tungusic, which culturally, linguistically and archaeogenetically do make a lot more sense having a very deep common origin around the Amur or Liao river.
@@ygorcoelhos yes, the main theory strictly includes only those three. My example for the Japanese text finding was just to emphasise on how the general "Transeurasia" region's languages don't have proper text examples that date back very far, and thus how we can't currently deem any genetical relation between those languages "objectively nonexistent". Doesn't mean they are related, but then again, absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.
Sounds too much like Persian
sounds like old persian
@@pooyatiquairequrious4186 it’s mega old Persian…. And mega old English
not at all
@@Mrityormokshiya Maybe it sounds like Arabic then
well it's the ancestor of persian, so that's not all too surprising
daora.
It sounds mostly like Proto Latin mixed with some Lithuanian.
Glad I don't have to learn this one...
It sounds more Semitic.
It already sounds like old English
nothing like it
Sounds like Greek Latin Norse.
Too much h.
That indo-european sounds like a hungarian or finnish😅
wierd considerimg those langs arent indo european
@@flyingduck91 i know but idk it just sounds like that for me
As a Finn this sounds nothing like my language
@@ancientwarrior3482 ohh sorry, I didn t want to offend i mean for me it s sounds like that
@@Polskirumun all good
Too many H and h.
But that's EXACTLY what the Laryngeal Theory confirmed when Hittite inscriptions were found and deciphered proposes. Early PIE, from before Proto-Anatolian split, was full of h-like sounds.
@@ygorcoelhos Is it possible that Proto-Indo-European is the ancestor of a much older, bigger language family or was it originally a language isolate with no relatives?
Sounds german enough to me
Imaginary gibberish!
Watch, it actually sounded nothing like this. In fact, watch, no PIE ever even existed.
Too bad 99% of the people that actually matter (linguists) disagree with your extremely fringe hypothesis 🤷🏻♂️
@@ygorcoelhosthe problem isn't with PIE itself; it's with how IELF is treated like an irrefutable fact by linguist mostly of Indo-European language backgrounds, meanwhile denying the existence of most other larger language family theories, and especially the ones that would have as much cultural and historical significance as the IELF. As much as there is obviously scientific methods for the proofs (or lack thereof), I can't help but think there is also, to an extent, a bias involved in the process.
Ah, the Aryan language
Nah. That's Proto Indo Iranian
@@vladof_putler All IE people are Aryan, get over it
Ha yes German Sanskrit 😂😂😂😂
Sanskrit was spoken at least 2,000 years after PIE. Believing PIE would have sounded just like Sanskrit is an ideological, not a logical nor scientific, conclusion
I will never understand why linguists made up such a horrible nonsense-looking spelling for PIE even when they were in full control of what what characters and diacritics they were going to use 🤦♂ .
exactly my thoughts
Not accurate
What are some of your main quibbles with the pronunciation? I mean, specific mistakes on the forms of vowels and consonants. I'd be interested to learn more about it.
You do it then.
go away
Damn guy named Parthian Capitalist really thinks he knows his linguists
Woah, it's a real proto-indo-european person! hOw ArE YoU sTilL AlIVe‽?!¿¡
wow. what kind of bs is this?
hilarious.
Larp cringe jaja what a messy unnecessary waste of time they didn't even write yall are ridiculous
Your English is also cringeworthy. If real living languages aren't your thing, no wonder you can't even possibly understand what historical linguistics is about and how methods of linguistic reconstruction work. 💁🏻♂️🤷♂️
Ragon nӕrton lӕgaw zaryn kwy zonin;)
Would you mind translating that for me? What language did you write in? I'd guess some Iranic one, maybe Ossetian. 😌🤗