Valve is NOT DONE With the Steam Deck
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Some people think we need a Steam Deck 2 sooner rather than later. I'm not so convinced.
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The Steam Deck single-handedly converted me to PC gaming. Being able to hit the power button and instantly play for 5-10 minutes at a time has allowed me to get back into gaming for the first time in years. This thing is revolutionary.
Definitely understand this as a dad now and avid gamer we still have lifes to live mobile gaming always was my jam and I Love consoles
Before I got my drivers license I was playing 3-4 hours a day on my compute to work, the steam deck has been such a blessing during rush hour and long waits at the airport
It is a PC with console gaming experience
I need to do this more. I pick up my phone more frequently than my Steam Deck. I need to put away RUclips more often.
I've had a similar experience. Being able to play without being tethered to a couch or a desk has been game changing for my lifestyle. I've beaten more games since I've gotten the deck then I have in years.
My daughter broke her arm last night, and is getting used to all the things she can't do - such as play with a normal controller. I love my Deck already, but the ability to change all the controls so she can play games, one handed using only one side and the track pads, is incredible. It made her day. What a great and versatile device.
Wow thanks for sharing that. Steam input is def an amazing feature. Hope your daughter has a speedy recovery!
May she recover as soon as possible.
Fantastic story. This is what technology is for…helping people ❤ Good luck to her getting better and you
Also a software developer, I had pretty much abandoned PC in favour of console for the ease of use and low entry cost. The Steam Deck is the only thing that brought me back, I can tinker as little or as much as I want and I have fewer stability problems than I ever did on PC with driver issues, crashes etc. Not to say it doesn't happen, but I definitely have fewer issues. I totally agree, I just want to sit back and relax in the evening, not be reinstalling drivers because my favourite game has decided to start crashing.
I don't think people understand how much software devs hate friction 🤣
@@FanTheDeck Thats still person by person... I'm a software developer I love tinkering with PC games and Linux and junk like that. Hate consoles.
I just recently got my own steam deck and honestly, and entirely on my part, it's just been overwhelming and at times frustrating because I went straight to installing Minecraft and Skyrim modpacks as well as a few plugins and such.
That being said, neither of those took more than a day which is a win in my book.
Just hope I get used to the touchpad aiming controls so I get to play, more than 2% of my library (mostly shooters)
As another Software Developer, I’ve been beating the drum of going from PC to consoles as well and then the Steam Deck also brought me back for the exact same reason.
@@FanTheDeck definitely! I used to love messing around with computers, it's how I came to find programming. But once you get enough of that at work the last thing you want is more after work
Crazy that's been already 2 years
Right?
@FanTheDeck, have u ever heard of fitgirl Repack or dodi Repack or uTorrent?
It really does feel like 2 years. It felt like 3 years to me tbh.
I'm a software developer as well, got the steamdeck oled! I must say even if I have a capable machine which can play games! At the end of the day, I just want to get off that screen that I've been working on! Jump in couch hit the power button, and straight get back in the game the way I left it with zero-issue to encounter in the middle! I already have my time settle to ticker, debug do stuff get angry other time! When I want to game let me game in peace!
Amen!
The leap I beg Valve to do is Standalone VR headset powered by SteamOS.
But maybe that's just me.
Nah that'd be amazing
I can't wait for Deckard to be a reality...
But I hope they take from some other examples and use micro-OLED displays
Meaning in a much smaller, lighter form factor... that might take another year I think
No, its not just you. I've had an original Quest since 2020, and I've disliked the whole Facebook/Meta aspects of it. Now that support for it is drying up faster than a puddle in the desert, I've been hoping Valve would make a similar standalone VR unit to compete. As soon as they do, I'm going to jump on it.
like a quest 3?
That or allow it to be optomized to play with either the index and other existing vr headsets, it'd be welcomed
A steamdeck 2, I would guess, would come out at the 5 year or 6 year mark. I hope they'd keep a similar form factor because I really like how it's set up
I doubt it would be THAT long. And if it is, the time may still be shortened as soon as Nintendo gets their update out of their derriere
There's a good chance they'll release both their VR headset and a new Steam Machine before a next gen Steam Deck.
I'm not kidding, btw. There's a legitimate chance of a new Steam Machine releasing alongside Valves' new headset, which would both work in tandem for console-like PCVR gaming.
There's leaks, patents, code names, and photos of a weird console in their office from like 2019.
My only hope is that we also get an official Steam OS distro for general systems.
@@pixels_per_minute well that's in line with what I want lol
It would be nice to have a hybrid "standalone" that is low cost, with the option of spending a grand on a high powered box that turns its performance up to 11. Even if they're just upping the Streaming potential like oculus air link
Nah I highly doubt it will be that long, I suspect 3 to 4 years, because 5 or 6 years is too long in the PC space and that will pull many of us towards the rivals of the Deck, whereas 3 to 4 years is enough time for enough hardware progress to happen to do a decent upgrade.
Think of it a bit like mid-gen console upgrade, which is a better fit compared to what consoles normally do of 6-8 years which is way too long.
3 to 4 years will allow Valve to keep pace with rivals whiles also keeping pace with newer games.
Because of this, I think 2025 might be a good time for Valve to release a Deck 2 once the new gen APU's are released or whatever custom job Valve is working on, any longer then that and it's going to be hard to justify the Deck with how aggressive rivals are on price cutting and the performance gap will end up getting too big.
Remember guys, all these devices are in the same playing field, playing the same games, if a rival offers better, gamers will shift, unlike consoles where loyalty and games exclusive plays a big part on what they buy.
@@paul1979uk2000 I'm a valve fanboy and I agree completely.
If Valve wants to compete, that's the cycle they'll choose.
However, we have known Valve to be without competition in the past... my meaning is they simply put something forward that is without comparison for at least several months before anyone can catch up.
Whatever they're cooking... we're going to have to let them cook. They have all the cards.
You talk about competition, and I agree, as it regards anything they've ever made in the past.
If "Steam Deck 2" is JUST a pc/handheld, it will face competition. Basically I'm trying to say that it will probably be a LOT MORE than just that.
Mostly a console gamer for life here, but lately the itch to try the steam deck was too much. Snagged the entry level model for $225 on marketplace. Truly loving this machine and its hybrid approach.
$225 is such a steal. That's awesome! Glad you're enjoying
Dude that’s sick! $225 is a hell of a price for the steam deck. Hope you’re enjoying it!
@@jimmychops thank you, I was excited to be able to try one out for the price. I am loving it! Emulation is amazing on it, and taking those older games on the go is a game changer. It works great for indies and smaller games too.
The SteamDeck is still a King. People only want a Steam Deck 2 because there is no Steam Console. If valve launched a powerful Steam Console and VideoCard addon that turned the Steam Console into the Steam Console Pro, kind of like Xbox Series X/S. Then people would not want a steam deck 2 so quickly. Also, imagine if you only needed to buy an addon to turn series S into series X.
“Deck gang out” IS BACK BABY!
We back!
if mobile pc handhelds were cars, the rog ally and and legion go are sports cars, the steam deck oled is the comfy van where u bring the whole family on vacation
Steam deck is a Honda crv. It's still AWD and goes 120 mph
No the Steam Deck is a Subaru STI. It will run on mud, snow, tar, gravel. Anything you throw at it.
I wish sports car were that affordable lol.
But I do agree with what you are saying, but really, the Steam Deck would have to be much cheaper for that to be the case because the price to performance from the Deck to rivals is quite small.
ROG ALLY and LENOVO LEGION GO can run Dragon's Dogma 2 and STEAM DECK can't kewk.
I also think people shouldn't be so eager for a steam deck 2, because as the Phawx said, "valve aren't very good at counting to 3" (paraphrased)
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I always found it interesting that the Steam Deck Dock was not called the Steam Dock because it's a single character change and still gets the Idea across so I personally see that naming decision to be evidence for a more traditional console version called the Steam Dock with higher specs.
Probably to make it precisely clear it’s for the steam deck. We don’t know what they plan on making in the future.
And the steam deck also has become most like a brand, like PlayStation is to Sony.
(There’s also the case of if someone makes a type, it’s clear what it supposed to be I guess)
Only two years? That's not old. The steam deck is a beast of a machine. If you know how to fiddle with it you can almost play any game past and present. This machine is full of limitless potential.
No cap, I love the plugins 🫡
No cap, I love the plugins 🫡
@@idkidk1952 what plugins?
Thing is, Steam Deck users, as this video says "Don't like to tinker". TOO many titles, both old and new, require you to go to desktop mode and screw around in folders instead of just hitting up options and changing a few settings. I am NOT going to mess around with Linux, as a Windows man since Win98, when I can just boot up games Deck can't run normally on my Ally.
Can't get it to run Dragon's Dogma 2 at a decent framerate, and with good graphical quality. Best I've seen anyone run it at looked pretty bad and was at like 20fps outside of Vernsworth (the fps killer). Ally runs it like a champ at just below medium settings. I bought an Ally JUST for this occasion last December, because I had a suspicion the Deck couldn't handle DD2 well enough for me to enjoy. Glad I did.
It's funny how a lot of PC gamers said windows is for gaming. Yet a lot of people said deck is less problematic 😂 it makes me proud as a Linux fan❤
To be fair, it used to be the case, but Linux just needed someone to come up with a package solution that just works, SteamOS isn't perfect but for a lot of gamers, it just works.
Linux could have done this themselves but there are too many voices pulling in all directions.
At the end of the day, for Linux to gain any traction, it needed software compatibility with Windows software, it doesn't matter how it's done, just as long as it works and performs, Valve are doing that with Proton, after all, most users and gamers don't care what is under the hood, but they do care if the software and games run or not, basically, Linux needs strong software compatibility with Windows for many of us to consider Linux, after all, I'm sure you've heard it a million times how many have said, they would like to move to Linux but it doesn't have this or that software, I've heard it countless times that software compatibility is the number 1 issue that holds many of us from adopting Linux, that's slowly changing thanks to the Steam Deck, but more can be done.
Windows is good for desktop but not for portable gaming. A dedicated os always works better. A big difference.
I would be fine with a steam deck 2 around 4-5 years after the first one. I am still enjoying my lcd steam deck and think that in a few years we will have the next gen Radeon graphics that valve can make a custom chip with. Looking forward to see what they do next
I would hate to see a steam deck 2 right now knowing what hardware is out there available to them currently. They kind of struck gold with the APU they use in the steam deck because for so many reasons except power it is perfect for handheld gaming. Battery life is good, efficiency is great and it plays most games just fine… the steam deck is the first device I ever used to emulate games and it was incredible because my childhood memories were not ruined, emulation is so good today that when I play old games it appears how my brain remembers it 😂 if I play on original hardware my memories are ruined because I don’t remember them looking so bad but upscaled emulation and other tweaks you can do in emulation software keeps my memories intact and it’s just epic… not steam deck exclusive ofcourse because we have so many devices that can do it but the deck just gets it so right.
Valve just know what they are doing, they know why the deck works, nobody wants 30w plus and 1 hour gaming while still not achieving 60fps in reality. I hope valve wait as long as they need to get it right second time round.
Here's the truth and it always has been. You don't have to upgrade every cycle. People clammering that the steamdeck apu is from 2020. Heres some news for ya, google how the 1080 ti is holding up at 1080p to this day.
that thing is a dang beast
Regarding the tinkering argument: I think there's a difference between tinkering because you WANT to VS HAVING to tinker for things to even work in the first place
I had to tinker to make it work
Whether or not the steam deck is "showing it's age" really depends on what games you're trying to play on it. You may as well say you only play AAA games, and if that's the case you probably shouldn't have bought a steam deck in the first place. Meanwhile indie games and older gems work a dream, and that back catalogue is getting bigger and bigger as Valve continues to push for more and and more games to be deck verified. I'm particularly interested in seeing more games from the PS360 get ported to PC (or verified if they are already ported), because they would run perfectly on deck (and the xperia and rpcs3 emulators still leave a lot to be desired).
If you download the preview channel plus change vram to 4gb , it actually has great performance and you use less watts wich is crazy 🤯
In the meantime, I play AAA games all the time on my Steam Deck OLED and just enjoy them... Turning-off the fps counter helps have fun instead of focussing on technical fine-tuning!
Emulation pretty much only for me
The games I play... I havent had a problem with The Steam Deck being 2 yrs old... gawd have I had mine that long.
Steam Deck needs to be sold in every store. I love mine, but not enough people have access to it.
Disagree. Everyone has access to the steam website. Up to the individual to buy one .
I think it would still help of they release it into stores
@markdebruyn1212 it wouldn't help Valve. As of now they get 100% of the profit from steamdecks. Selling in different stores will cut into that profit. It would be a bad idea. This is a steam device and should only be sold on steam. But I see Amazon sells them
@@lillpoetboy Why would you disagree with more people having access. If the iPhone was only sold at Apples website, they would lose 90% of their sales.
@@lillpoetboysteam website says they're not selling to my region at the moment, so no, I still have to contact oversea game shop to ship it to me with including taxes and shipping fees to make it wayyyy more expensive than it needed to be.
I don't play AAAs on the steam deck.
I don't play AAAs at all.
And if a game can't run on the steam deck, I simply run it on the pc.
All the support I need is for valve making sure these games run and the controls work. The SD is the perfect device for price-for-performance for indie titles and the 6-12 year old games in my backlog.
I just got my OLED version last Dec, and I've been playing with it ever since. Gotta say, Valve made a hella awesome hand held. Truly the king of hand helds 😁
Totally agree about the physical presence of the Steam Deck at your local stores. I was really looking to get a feel for it and experience it before buying and although i am completely happy with my purchase after a lot of research, I truly dont believe that a regular consumer would be swayed into getting one.
What I’d like see them do is have a framework like approach modular parts and easy repairability.
SD2 I would like to see more of a massive beefed up display like 9 inch with a least 150hz. This is why I love my Legion, and I use my steam account on there.
8:38 YES!!! This is what i've been saying on @YoMammasBacon channel! This (to me) is the FUTURE of gaming. I wanted it for the switch, but really, I want this for all consoles. A powerful system in your hands and then an even MORE powerful system with an EGPU while docked! Im SO HAPPY to find someone who agrees with me! I KNEW I couldn’t be the ONLY one! Also, it can be playable without an external screen and you can play it kindof like a plugged in gaming laptop and just enjoy the enhanced performance
The Steam Deck not only brought me back to PC gaming but also give back my interest in tinkering with PC's as well, installing third party launchers and emulators, it's awesome, hell I even opened a Steam account for the first time, because when I was younger I sourced games from somewhere online.
Valve is genius literally has crafted the new entry level PC and it comes with its own controlller and screen when you think about it, a new era
I wish steam deck got perks of a console , like for instance, highly optimized games. Developers are starting to optimize games for handheld pcs but, thye are only targeting for playable fps. Steam deck is way superior than a Nintendo switch, but without the attention from Developers.
One of the big selling points of the Steam Deck was that developers didn't need to do much like this...
I gave up trying to get my seat for a PS5 back when they were new.
Sony had fumbled the bag so damn bad during its release that is left such a sour taste in my mouth.
During that time I had gotten an email saying if I would like to secure my early reserve spot for the Steam Deck launch edition 512Gb.
It didn't take any thought to dump all idea of getting a PS5 and dedicating those funds for the Steam Deck, best decision ever👌
One thing every reviewers fail to mention is Steam deck has a learning curve. It may be easy but some people just don't have the time to learn it. I myself even as a computer major, did get frustrated here and there mainly because I'm used to windows and there's bunch of resources you need to read up to ensure you did it correctly. It is a beast of a machine, but I wouldnt really recommend it to casual gamer
Good to see your video back. Its been 2 years and I still cant afford even an LCD steam deck. Wanted to start out a channel with steam deck content but just cant quite have the money to purchase a steam deck. I wish I had the same financial capacity as you guys. Ive been a fan of your channel and the nerdnest and the rest of your gang hehe. Wish you all the best. Just a poor dad seeing your videos make me happy duringy free time.
I'm not ready to buy a Steam Deck 2, but I'd love to see what Steam may have down the road.
I hope the next iteration of the steam deck uses the same shell as it is now. It’s a design they nailed. And to discard it would feel a bit of a waste. They already made multiple revisions to the board, panel, battery, apu nm from 7 -> 6nm, etc already with the oled. I believe there’s still a ton of life in the current design.
I'm glad you're back, bro. we missed ya🎉
Always good to be back, Alex - thanks for the support :)
2 years is and should not be enough time for a substantial upgrade. Do we really want valve to be like these other handheld emulator models and release a "new console" every 3-6 months? Valve's steam deck, despite it being able to do that kind of things and being basically a Linux PC, is not really in that kind of field. They are more in the field of modern video game consoles, like Xbox, PS and nintendo, where it probably will take 5-7 years (if not more) of them to make a substantial upgrade. And I think that is totally fine and justifiable.
Like at this point, if you want it to be upgradable, maybe you should just look into building computers and solder a new more powerful CPU when you see one, or something.
It's been two years, that is barely any time. The steam deck is honestly still one of, if not, the best handheld console you can get out of ANY VG manufacturer, including nintendo, xbox (i know they dont have one lol), PS, and all of these other handheld style consoles. Be patient, or play your more exponentially powerful games on a different device until valve is ready. I know I want them to take their time, make something that is actually good and not to make a quick buck, like every goddamn corporation out there is doing, just maximizing profits to appease their stakeholders. We do not want valve to do that, or at least not obviously show it lol, we need more companies to actually make a good product.
Just bought Stem Deck OLED next to LCD. It does not showing any signs of ageing
Absolutely. What kind of games do you play on it?
@@FanTheDeck Triple A. And LCD version manages it easily... OLED will acompany me on travels due longer battery life
@@pookanoid 🔥 Love to see it
@@pookanoid steam deck is amazing and i prefer it to my rog ally quite significantly for so many reasons but we are living in cloud cuckoo land if we think these things are AAA gaming machines and they manage it easily, AAA gaming is quite frankly pretty dogshit on any handheld, its nothing but major compromise in every way, usually low settings, usually not native resolution etc its just a novelty at best. Go grab balatro, set the deck to 4w, enjoy smooth 60 or even 90fps, bask in the 12 hours of battery life and thats peak steam deck gaming. Then get emudeck sorted and play retro games, ps1, ps2, gamecube, whatever really - at much higher fidelity than they were originally and still get massive battery life, this is just the deck in its absolute element.
far be it from me to tell you what to enjoy though, if you play AAA games and the performance is good enough for you then good on ya dude, enjoy it!
@@pookanoidno Dragon's Dogma 2 for you kewk.
Can't believe how good the steamdeck is, i think its very valid not wanting to tinker and trouble shoot stuff, for the amount of work valve has put in software layer i just want it to keep improving, funnily enough i also consider rog ally the closest experience to a decent competitor holding it just feels right.
The steam deck is great device. But it IS under powered. 4c/8t was bare minimum in 2019 for PC games. When ps5/XSX came out. That minimum changed. Devs target as standard as of Nov/2020. Both current gen consoles are using 8c/16t and RDNA2 gpu.
What Valve needs to do is put out is steam box or steam consoles with specs that are slightly better then ps5 imo. Something VR/4k/60 capable system. 10 to 20 Tflops system could be capable of doing that. Zen 3+, 8c/16t with RDNA3 with proper dedicated at least 16GB GDDR6 memory and or with DDR4/5 memory system of OS /background task.
Valve could make steam box with zen 3/RDNA 3 with 16 GB Gddr6 for games. Put 8 GB DDR4/5 just for OS to run/background task.
For me, its Valve regional pricing done right. Only Valve is the one doing regional pricing for games in the Philippines, with all other consoles mostly referring to US/Japan pricing, which is real expensive given purchasing power. That makes Steam Deck the cheapest console ever (both on hardware and on software). Steam sales is the cherry on top
It's crazy the gaming experience Steam provides. I have a Linux PC that sits between my desk and TV. When I'm tired of programming or just want to sit in my recliner and relax I can hit CTRL + ALT + F2 where I have a script running that will send Steam in BPM to 4 different screens for a console like experience. One of those screens is a dummy plug I use to stream to my Steam Deck. The crazy thing is I can play those old retro DOS games like Dungeon Hack with a controller on my TV because Steam input is absolutely amazing.
1) Great video, love the push for ambition. "Shoot for the moon, even if you miss you'll land among the stars.
2) Where did you get your shirt?
Got the oled in January after jealously watching my buddy play with his for the last year and some change as he was a day one buyer. I have an Xbox as well and I can just say I spend most of my gaming hours on my steam deck. It’s amazing can’t say enough good things about it.
Steam deck is a best thing I have bought in recent years. I have an gaming PC but don’t touch it for two years already 😂
Let’s be honest, most of us have backlogs that easily extend to the PS4/Xbone generation, if not much further like me. And the Deck is perfect for catching up on all that. Gonna be fine for a WHILE
I love my steam deck. I put an XBPlay ($6.99) app on steam deck located on the store. I can play MLB the Show 2024 at 60fps via Xbox cloud Fullscreen. Most days it runs well (depending on network traffic) and look great even online play. Waiting for Sony to put the game on PC. It's on everything else. I can jump from Ori in HDR on Steam Deck OLED is a sight to behold to emulation. Unless Microsoft get it together for the handhelds. I'm team Valve. I'm a person who love the latest and greatest tech. But the steam deck with its battery, controls, screen and ease of use. Asus, MSI or Lenovo just can't pull me from it. I don't care what APU they're using. It's a console with PC flexibility. At this point unless someone copy this thing every feature. I'll gladly wait for steam deck 2 whenever it comes. And if Valve goes back to LCD I might stay put until there's an OLED version. Yes, we can buy an APU that will run gow at 60 fps but if that APU can't last a 2-hour flight no thanks.
I think the biggest thing Valve should do is get the Deck into retail, so people can hold it and play it and just experience it.
I had a Steam account for about a decade that I rarely touched but ever since I got the LCD steam deck my PC gaming has exponentially increased. Now if a game comes out for all systems I prefer to get it on steam over all other platforms. My only gripe with the deck would be that I wish it did have a high performance profile so that I could play the more demanding 3D games at the sacrifice of battery life. I'm fine with all low settings at 30 FPS because I only play single player games anyway. I also rarely play for longer than two hours at a time. I was really intrigued with the ally but decided to go with the OLED instead and have no regrets.
Maybe the eGPU dock could make a future Steam Deck like “PC3”.
Otherwise I would think the main change is the new hardware were the OS carries back to previous Steam Deck, just like Xbox One got the Xbox Series UI so the main upgrade is the better hardware.
The Deck is outdated as fuck, anything else is delusional. Period.
With that said, I am willing to wait till holiday 2025 for the much better device.
Frankly the LCD Deck is still an amazing machine. After the color vibrance update, I don't even feel like the OLED screen is a must buy unless you're wanting the bigger battery.
Everyone!! Use the preview channel on the steam deck and change vram to 4gb . Thank me later!! Performance is crazy better and you use less watts
I love my steam deck so far I’ve had it for a month and love it. Finally Fantasy XIV runs solid on it, only down size is the battery life.
So many new games but beat gato robato, started Haiku the Robot, still working on cookie cutter and began Last Hero of Nostalgia!
Gato Roboto and Haiku are excellent!!
If some recent games are not good enough to run 30fps on Steam Deck it's the software developers fault.
Bro I’ve had my cpu and gpu from 2020 and they work fine. Idk why fellas are saying that the cpu isn’t good enough
6:28 woah woah, hold your horses there. if Valve hears anything related to "3" they will make sure to never make it up happen 😂
I do agree that the Steam Deck doesn't need an upgrade yet, there's not a big enough of an upgrade on the hardware level yet to warrant an upgrade at the moment and even the rivals that do offer better hardware, they are having to throw more energy at it, which kinda defeats the purpose of portable gaming, basically, with current battery tech and pricing, 15-20 watts is the limit for having decent battery life, so the performance uplift needs to be in that power bracket.
With that said, I don't think Valve can afford to wait too long to release a Steam Deck 2, the Deck is a PC/console hybrid but because there are so many options on the market, if the Deck gets left behind too much, it will be hard to justify buying the Deck unless there's a massive price cut, and personally, I think an upgrade every 3 or 4 years would work out well, that gives enough time for hardware progress, whiles not being too long of 6 or 8 years that consoles normally do.
I think Valve targets 3 or 4 years, depending on hardware progress on the market, that will work for most gamers, but if they take longer than that, I suspect many will shift towards rivals, especially as many of them are being more aggressive on price slashing.
In other words Valve, don't get too comfortable with SteamOS, polish and quality control being a selling, those are only selling points to a degree, and rivals in time will likely close the gap on all of that.
Another factor I think Valve needs to do is be more open to other store fronts, like it or not, other store fronts are here to stay and that is a selling point for rivals that have easy access to that, and ideally, if Valve can offer a way of allowing games from other store fronts but in a way that's integrated into Steam so it's a seamless thing that all the games are in one place, that would work well, but I doubt Valve will do that and because of that, that will be an advantage for rivals that are more open to allowing games on all store fronts.
Still at least for now, there are ways of getting other store fronts on the Steam Deck, but I think a better more streamline approach is needed.
I will say one thing about the Steam Deck 2 when it's released, it really needs to have the option that you can get a dock and have an e-gpu attached to it, for gamers that want more horsepower when gaming on the big screen, that for me will be a massive selling point with how rivals are offering that, it basically allows you to have the best of both worlds, portable gaming and higher end gaming on the big screen, so much so that for many, you could probably get rid of your gaming rig, and if the Steam Deck 2 doesn't offer that, that would be a dealbreaker for me that makes the rivals look far more appealing.
As for when I think a Steam Deck 2 should be released, I suspect in 2025, probably around the same time as the Switch 2 is releases, or just a little before it, Valve might want to capitalise on the noise at the time, after all, if Valve can capture just a small percentage of gamers that were planning to buy a Switch 2, that would be a big success for Valve, it's also likely that newer APU's will be released by then so the performance uplift might be worth then doing a Deck 2.
On deck vs anything else battery wise. Train trip of about 3h. Been playing Elden Ring a lot preparing a new character for DLC. Next to me was a dude with an Ally. We changed pleasantries and we tested each other's devices and I must say, the scree on the ally is not bad at all. For a non OLED screen wow... And the performance on turbo mode... Yeah. He has also been playing Elden Ring. He looked at my Elden ring and how good it looked (thanks to HDR) and he asked how much battery I could get out of it. I checked the timer (non busy area) and it gave me 3h20m. Now I am sure I don't get that with lots of action but he was floored by the difference. His ally if he went turbo mode would be dead in 40 mins or so. In order to play for a long time he had to limit tdp lower resolution and make the game look uglier. But yeah, plug it in to the mains and the deck is toast.
It might be because of my use cases but I have a significantly harder time playing the games I want to play on the steam deck. I just cannot wrap my head around Linux. I mean don't get me wrong, I LOVE the hardware (Steamdeck OLED FTW!). But at least for emulation, everything has been such a pain for me to set up in comparison to on my windows machines.
Just look for a program called Emudeck. It has everything in an easy to setup form for all your emulation needs. 👍
If Valve had a dock with an upgradable CPU and GPU, it'd be an expandable experience where you had a powerful handheld on the go, but a full-power PC when you dock it, as it just uses the memory of the Deck when you dock it.
The only thing that I really need is a new Steam controller. Everything on top of that is just gravy.
*NEED*, Davin; you hear me? Need.
I hope they baby this machine for a little while. Consoles are getting out of control with constant releases.
I a dockable SD 2 with an eGPU in the dock sounds great. I do still want a dedicated steam machine for the living room though.
Valve is still not selling the deck in a number of countries which means it's either not available at all outside of grey market, or only via official third parties like where I live, and that results in the cost being higher and less competitive with the alternatives.
Added some *QoL* *improvements* for my Steam Deck 512 LCD over the weekend….
*Redream:* For some reason, this won’t launch from the EmuDeck/EmulationStation. I was stuck using Flycast and didn’t like how some games ran from it. I needed Redream to be a standalone emulator but still launch from the Steam library.
My other big issue with Redream is it won’t remember the path if the Dreamcast ROMs were placed in the folder where EmuDeck reads them from. So I had to separate all my Dreamcast games from the big emulation folder. It’s now in the internal storage next to the Redream files and it can now remember the path. Also, changed redream to redream.exe from the actual file name because Steam can’t find it if it’s the former. Then edited the name again in the Steam gaming mode menu.
Dreamcast games plays closer to flawless again. Dreamcast is my 2nd favorite console of all-time and it bothered me that I couldn’t use the emulator I wanted until figuring it out over the weekend. The only thing is the games won’t show up in EmulationStation anymore. I can live with it as long as I can play the games nicely.
*Pluto* *TV:* Since getting the Pluto TV and Tubi apps about 5+ years ago, I rarely use Netflix anymore. Pluto TV is a Paramount service but three of my favorite sitcoms are on there. All I want from it is a channel that plays The Golden Girls all the time. Maybe toss in Martin, The Wonder Years, Doogie Howser MD, and another comfort soup show like Northern Exposure.
Doogie Howser and The Wonder Years used to appear on ABC, so they’re more likely owned by Disney. I do love the Price is Right channel during the Bob Barker era. Watched a little of it last night. It’s the game show I’d watch if I wasn’t in school or during summer vacation. I can live with the ads as long as it’s free and they have a great selection of content which they do.
I personally don’t need any of them on any streaming service since all I do is use torrents and then save them on my Google Photos using an old Pixel 3 which has unlimited storage saver for life. The limit is 1080p. Everything from Game of Thrones, House of the Dragon, Loki, WandaVision, Andor, The Mandalorian, The Boys, Mike Judge’s Beavis and Butt-Head, Stranger Things, Cobra Kai, Heels, Ted (2024), Monarch: Legacy of Monsters, they’re all there uploaded on my Google Photos.
This June is going to be packed: House of the Dragon S2 vs. The Boys S4 vs. The Acolyte? I think HOT D wins out. The lore is more interesting. But I do love The Boys.
*Tubi:* If you know movies like I do, Tubi has superior content over Netflix. I have an account and basically keep adding movies on my watchlist. Tons of foreign and softcore porn movies! Has many of the Showa Godzilla movies. Has my Gilligan’s Island too while Pluto TV covers I Love Lucy, Three’s Company, and Married…with Children. Pluto TV + Tubi are practically unbeatable since they’re free. Just need to live with the ads. Rewatched Get Out (2017) again on Tubi last night.
*Kodi:* So I couldn’t really create an app to add to Steam for Google Photos using Microsoft Edge. So what I’ll do instead is download some movies and TV shows from my Google Photos and save it onto my Deck. Then will have Kodi play it. I was going to use VLC but it doesn’t seem it can be added onto Steam. And Kodi seems to have a much nicer interface.
I have over 1400 movies and tons of TV shows in one of my three Google Photos accounts. But the only one downloaded for the Steam Deck is video game related. It’s a documentary called Console Wars (2020) which can be found on Netflix. I read the Blake J. Harris book back in 2014. I may include 8-Bit Christmas (2021), both live action Sonic movies, and the recent Super Mario movie for it.
I really want a complete set of the animated Shenmue series on my Steam Deck. I use magnetdl and I can’t find it complete. While I love the original Final Fantasy VII game, I didn’t care for Advent Children. That movie dragged. Most of my favorite TV shows and movies are on my multiple Android smartphones.
The other ones added are RUclips, Gmail, Reddit, Firefox, and Microsoft Edge. That’s a total of 10 “non games” if you include the 4 other ones mentioned earlier and EmulationStation. I set every app / website launcher to the native resolution of 1280 x 800. Looked through Google images to crop thumbnails for each of them. What really boosted my experience was finally figuring out each controller template. Set most of them to web browser and it’s like browsing from a tablet.
This thing can be used for a decade if you really wanted to. Just replace the battery every few years. When I got my Deck nearly two months ago, battery health (which can seen under desktop mode) read 97%. But I’ve been using it so much, it’s down to 92%. I honestly thought I would barely use it after the initial honeymoon phase wore off but it’s been the complete opposite for me and I carry it with me every day since I’m a gig driver.
The Steam Deck is frickin’ amazing. If I’m bored playing games, I’ll use it to do something else like watch porn or read Reddit posts. I only bring one smartphone now because the Steam Deck is so complementary to any smartphone whether it’s iPhone or Android since it’s essentially a PC as well. It’s the G.O.A.T. It made me less interested for the Switch 2. F Nintendo! Cheers to Valve! 🍻
The steam deck fkn rocks its more versitile than any of my other game consoles and i dont see it as a PC thats what i see my desktop as I suppose so youve a good point there.
I don't think this system is showing its age. I love this thing as my daily out on the go drive. At home I have main main rig but at work the steam deck is great for those downtime hours and I need something to do.
A lot of the big AAA games I have have got working pretty well and stable like Horizon Zero Dawn, Cyberpunk and many more. It just requires a bit of work.
I would have paid good money for a dock that ups the power and/or an updated steam machine to go along with the deck. Ill admit though while at home im more prone to whip out the legion go.
Nice one, Rich! I switched from console to PC Gaming many years ago, and I feel like this actually turned me away from gaming in a way. Maybe because I spent the whole day working in front of a PC, the desire to sit in front of it to game started to fade away. I know a lot about tikering with PC's and PC games, but I just didn't want that anymore. I just wanted to sit down and play like the old times, and the Steam Deck managed to get me back to that. I don't think just because we know how to tinker and all, we want to do this all the time on Windows and always choose this path instead of the ease fo use we can find on Deck with SteamOS...
They don’t need a deck 2 maybe revise with better usb c port so you can put an external gpu so it is a pc on dock and a bigger battery that’s all I want
Im a console user to pc handheld gaming now.... Steamdeck is a game changer
Steam OS is king. I sold my ally because windows is ass cheeks 😊
As much as I loved Windows I just use it for productivity for school, just like you said Linux is so convenient to the point I even installed it on my main gaming rig I have in the living room, It is so nice to just be able to resume a game and you suspended in sleep mode.
I use my SD as my daily driver. I do notice a bug with Steam Desktop client that can make the entire desktop "Freeze" but I wind up avoiding those features. (Trying to watch a broadcast can trigger this) but for the most part, I don't have much to complain about. It gets the job done.
love that fact that having a PC that i can take with me everywhere as a daily driver just hits different, vs having a stationary desktop. I can't wait til we have them in the size of a Switch Lite someday with decent hardware.
Yeah there's still more work to do on the software front for sure. It's much better than Windows (for now) but it could still be better
@@FanTheDeck Much agreed! I hope some of these quirks are known!
Uneccesary Tinkers are the Real Problem with Windows Handheld rather we want something that Interest us to Tinker rather than needing it to do.
Thats my View on SteamOS and Windows at least.
I think USB C 5 ( thunderbolt 5) is what valve is waiting for.
I bought a refurbished 512 at GameStop for around 350 which was not bad love the thing would never have done it if it wouldn't have been at GameStop I'm more than likely would have never have tried one and I love the thing
I actually had someone in public notice me gaming on my Steam Deck the other day and they asked if it was a Steam Deck which I of course responded with a yes. Also my boss at my previous job noticed me playing my Deck while on break and he was impressed so at least in the area where I live Steam Deck is slowly but surely becoming a known name.
You don't need a deck 2, but I need a sd 2
Had a legion go and returned it for the steam deck oled. Couldn’t be happier. As you mentioned, life gets busy and sometimes you have 0 want to tinker with settings. Steam deck oled is absolutely perfect for me and is helping me get through my back log of games. For any high demand games I have my pc with a 4080 or ps5.
I could never get the ally. I pretty much I mostly play in places where I don't have access to charging. I was only playing the switch for a few years before I got the deck
Plan on getting a handheld PC eventually as a companion piece to m y main rig but so far the the handheld PCs on the market right now just aint it.
Let’s be honest Steam Deck OLED should’ve came with at least a 1080p screen, 800p is just pathetic
Still doesn't have the basic Steam feature of Streaming, but has remote play.
Basically you can have someone remote play to the deck no problem, but streaming a game is.
2 years and still not fixed.
I am trying to use the SteamDeck with my Meta Quest 2. That's what I want! I live in Steam VR on my Quest 2 right now. So having a portable VR on the go is the next step and would justify a SteamDeck 2.
Plot twist: Valve did churn out a new model, it is called the Steam Deck OLED
if the top comment isn't about how classy your shirt is then there is something wrong
Game respects game
Steam deck 2 MUST HAVE a second usbc port. Non-negotiable. It markets itself “2x the usb-c ports on the steam deck 2.”
I’m good with oled steam deck still
No kidding right? What would you want from a steam Deck 2?
Valve has done wonders.
I expect the next Steam Deck to be a game-changer.
I'm considering buying the LeGo because of the switch-like joycon feature it has. But now i'm hearing that Lenovo just announced a LeGo 2?
Thats the only thing I truly despise from these companies. Apparently the LeGo 1 still has software issues it needs to iron out as well as other things they could do like release different joycons, but instead they are talking about a LeGo 2? It hasnt even been a full year.
At least with Valve, nothing significant changed with the Steam Deck OLED. I still have the original SD LCD 512 and it has been nothing but solid for me.
My only concern is that I buy a LeGo, then the LeGo 2 gets released around Christmas with something like more RAM, faster APU... etc.
Valve made the right move by fine-tuning the SD and SteamOS before even considering the SD 2.
One would HOPE they aren't done with it. They need to create something for at least parity with the ROG Ally, which can run Dragon's Dogma 2 without a problem, if they hope to remain relevant. I mean...there's always those odd casual gamers who will drop like 400 bucks just to play popular, low-requirement indie titles that are available for and run just fine on their current cell phone, but you can't count on them to remain satisfied as more and more demanding games come out...that everything but the Deck can handle without visual fidelity and fps cuts. Everybody eventually wants to see just what their Deck can do. Don't want to disappoint them. That "day late, dollar short" model only works for Nintendo because they have exclusive games. If all you do is PC games, you need to stay up to current specs, or ideally over-compensate for modern times to future-proof your device.
I’d say it’s showing its age. Horizon Forbidden West was so laggy that I ended up getting a low powered gaming laptop. And FSR currently looks awful. I couldn’t put up with it anymore, bad upscaling technology plus very low resolution plus low frames.
Maybe I’ll get dogpilled but the Steam Deck is more suited for older games and emulators. This idea that it can play AAA titles well enough is a reach.
It’s a shame, I really wanted it to be my everyday device and leave Nvidia and Windows behind for good but it’s just not there yet.
We need an upgrade, and it needs to compete with the upcoming Switch Attach.
Idk what homie is talking bout but tinkerers don't want to spend their time fixing the platforms problems and getting it to play nice, they'd much rather spend it enhancing the platform and the user experience, and with that said the Steam Deck IS a tinkerers dream! I've spent hours setting up and configuring deckyloader, cssloader, all of it's other customizable plugins and cryoutilities. I've set up web browser kiosk apps for game pass, Luna, moonlight, Netflix and the rest of my streaming services. Set up and configured emu deck, kodi, Lutris and a bunch of non-steam games. I'v had my deck since June '23, sold it last month and got an OLED, and I am always finding more stuff to tinker with, and ALL of it is much more fun and inyeresting than fucking around with drivers, or trying to get windows to cooperate or figuring out the optimal settings of each and every game.
I’d like to mention BaziteOS is a great option to look into for the other handhelds
Also “Minecraft” can be played on Linux via Java or the “Bedrock Launcher”
Anyways, loving the Deck, it’s brought me back to my PC library after being with my PS for 2 years
Also the Deck is such a leap in hardware but more so software compared to the previous handhelds, and even some of the newer ones
(I owned 3 GPD Products, and I will never prefer them over my Steam Deck)
What's the name of the game you mentioned you guys were playing on the trip? Trying to search it on Steam :3
Balatro!
@@emiliosanchez4610 Thank you good sir :)
@@yuvi01warlock You're welcome! Enjoy
I hope you enjoy it if you give it a go!
First-worlders complaining about Steam Deck 2 already while I still can't buy it even the first LCD one directly from Valve because my country apparently doesn't exist to them, smh. Why can't people get their priorities straight? Get your shit worldwide first THEN think about a sequence, not the opposite.
I think Valve "knows their chickens"... and really set off to create the "library backlog machine", monetising people that weren't buying very much because of ageing PCs and/or time available. And once you have "freed up" some of your library you are going to feel better about buying newer stuff.