Should Christians vote for Trump? | Douglas Wilson
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- Опубликовано: 5 мар 2023
- In this clip from their recent conversation, John and Douglas Wilson consider whether Christians should consider voting for Donald Trump. Douglas weighs Trumps virtues and vices with those of his presidential alternatives and finds that Trump may offer more for Christians than it might appear.
Watch their full itnerview here: • America Divided | Doug...
Doug Wilson is a theologian, minister of Christ Church Moscow (Idaho), ex-Navy, Senior Fellow at New Saint Andrews College, prolific author, and advocate of Christian education.
He has written almost 80 books on a Christian vision for life, plus multiple novels, children's books, and collections of poetry, through the publishing outfit Canon Press. Doug also runs a regular blog and podcast. A firm Presbyterian, Doug uses the catchphrase 'All of Christ, for all of life' to encompass his various projects aimed at renewing a Christian culture.
Previously Doug appeared in the documentary 'Collision', where he debated renowned atheist Christopher Hitchens over the question 'Is Christianity good for the world?' The two went on to write a book under the same title.
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The word "Evangelical" is now more of a political term than a christian one.
I would have thought "respectable" was someone who kept his word? 🤔
Considering trump is the polar opposite of everything Jesus taught his disciples, Christians should NOT support trump’s candidacy.
I SO AGREE!!
well said!
Amen. Thank you. I need to hear more from brothers and sisters in Christ. I feel alone at times -especially with my family and friends. My wife is my support and thst’s all I need. God gave me a help meet for a reason. God bless
Until I get an explanation from Christian leadership as to why this question was not asked about Barrack Obama (at least not nearly as extensively or seriously) I will not take the opinion of these men seriously and no other Christian should either.
Christians not voting for him in 2020 either voted for more abortion, and the mess we see everywhere now, or stood by and allowed more mess to happen.
Biden > Trump. Not because Biden is good. But because trumps a traitor. Let’s be honest.
98% of Christians want Satan. It's true, they go to Church and lie.
Actually, voting GOP is voting for more abortions. Christians have a much higher abortion rate than their secular counterparts. Oh yeah, Christians also have a much higher divorce rate than their secular counterparts. Let's not forget, the states that have the highest populations of conservative Christians (and restrict abortion the most), lead the nation in infant mortality, maternal mortality, violent crime, poverty, teen pregnancy, teen suicide, and have a much lower life expectancy . Want to be "pro-life" (rather than just "pro-birth")? VOTE DEMOCRAT!
Do Christians really know what a Christian is?
Yes ! Trump is the answer for this new age !
Notice that Wilson never answered the question "Should Christians vote for T***p."
In 1970 my first wife pregnant with my first child was looking for an abortionast, fortunately by the time she found one she was too far along, and he refused to do the procedure. When we divorced, I got custody. Today that boy is vice-president of a major corporation whose products can be found in most grocery stores. I will be eternally grateful that that was before Roe vs. wade.
Boy this hasn't aged well
The Archangel Michel is depicted with a short...oh my.. no. He's not a cute little christian.Christian.. He's a mighty warrior!!!!!
Love both of these men! Seriously such a good conversation
I've got some conversations with Wilson on my channel if interested
Satan worshipers.
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Stopping to us. We're no longer asleep.
I'll take someone who is a bit crass and calls it like it is over someone with charisma who lies ad nauseam.
What about a presidential criminal? An insurrectionist? That is what voting for T***p is a vote for.
A little thing happened on January 6. He's calling for violence if he's indicted. He belongs in prison and I'm a Republican.
I completely one hundred percent agree.
"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. - Donald Trump
Utter rubbish, he didn’t call for violence, I don’t believe you are a real Republican for a moment…
What 'keep the chimps jumping' that's terrible
It's always worth remembering that Donald J Trump attended the Marble Collegiate Church as a young man in NY when the principal speaker was Norman Vincent Peale of 'The Power of Positive Thinking' literary fame.
Sadly, he doesn't even know what the Gospel is. He doesn't have a favorite passage in the Bible because he hasn't read it. He mocks Christ for loving or praying for our enemies. He feels that he's never had any cause to seek forgiveness from the Lord because he's never done anything wrong. These are all things he's said (on video). I doubt that he is born again.
Why not??? I’m a Christian (Roman Catholic) and if I were American I WOULD CERTAINLY vote for Trump. The only issue I see in Trump that makes people irrationally demented is that he’s - let’s say - a bit lacking or clumsy in public intercourse diplomacy.
@BlueShadow777
" let’s say - a bit lacking or clumsy in public intercourse diplomacy."
Ever consider that he does this On Purpose?
@@stevenwiederholt7000
Intention stimulates attention… and it’s effective, it works!
@@stevenwiederholt7000 he does it on purpose to get attention and push the story he wants further, he is a brilliant marketer and PR person
I think he also is a living embodiment what people on the left hate. His temperament alone is just so opposite of them.
@@baddog6003
"His temperament alone is just so opposite of them."
Let me say I am a fan of Donald Trump,and his policies. IF he wins the nomination ( would not bet against it) I will gladly vote for him. That said have to disagree, Very similar temperament. Thin skinned, do not take criticism well, Very Sure of themselves.
Yes
"Trump's language frequently needed to be moderated". Understatement of the century.
Look what happens when you don't vote Trump..
Over 13 million jobs created in less than 3 years. Lowering the yearly deficit by $18 trillion (T***p increased the national debt by 25% in 4 years). YES I SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE GOT RID OF T***p.
Good luck America, maybe see his links about the Noah Hyde Laws , Israel , then look at the penalties and who will be targeted
Yes, Il Duce, you did make the trains run on time.
I think abortion will run a course similar to prohibition. We no longer have a Judeo-Christian society which will support eliminating abortion. I'm happy to have the issue decided at the state level but we'll see.
Who are the chimps???
Genial that’s rage lol
Wishing for good things is very nice. Unfortunately, Creator Omniscient God DOES WHAT HE HAS ALREADY ORDAINED to be done.
The video title is 'Should Christians Vote for Trump'. I did not hear an answer to that question. The answer is "no". Christians are champions of God and love. Trump is a champion of hate. This cannot be reconciled, regardless of how many conservative justices Trump might appoint. I am a conservative, but I will not vote for Trump. I expect more of the GOP and if Trump is the nominee, then I think a party wake-up call is in order and I'll just hope that a better candidate is put forth in 2028.
I agree. T***p is the antithesis if everything in the Sermon on The Mount, The Beatitudes, Matthew 25, and I Cor 12. In fact he has lived his entire pathetic excuse of a life violating at least 9 of the 10 commandments. Christian T***p supporters have compromised every character, ethical and moral standard they say stand for.
I am Sol Corona. It is too late for the wake up call. The Republican Party is done.
Well said.
Asking a cessationist like DW is wasted effort. The answer isn't carnal.
saying outrageous things... oh like Jesus you mean
There are 3 choices in us presidential elections... 1) Democrat 2) Republican or 3) Do not vote. A vote for Democrat candidate is pro-abortion and anti-christian. A vote for a Republican presidential candidate is not as bad but not ideal.
@MatsixUL agreed... point is Trump ran as a Republican. And there was a Democrat and that’s it. Democrat = pro-abortion and anti-christian.... so there is no other choice but Republican for Christians... other than not voting
@MatsixUL your comment was shadow banned it seems. Or mine was and thus yours is too.... evidence that YT is obviously part of the totalitarian globalist socialist cabal.
Well, vote your conscience and vote in the primaries for someone other than Trump.
You're shortchanging number 3. If one can't vote for either because he considers them both evil and will violate his conscience by voting, then one is sinning by doing so. The end doesn't justify the means.
@@martin9410 explain how it is a sin to cast a vote for the better of 2 candidates? One that caused 3 wars and the other none. One that increased the suffering of millions of Americans, Ukrainians, Israelis and Palestinians and the other that reduced poverty to all time lows? No one is perfect except God. So you should write in God and if the warmongering globalist marxist wins check back with me in a few years and let's see how that goes. That said if DJT wins the left will BLM (burn, loot and maurade) their way thru 4 years and if you live in a state allowing such shenanigans... have fun on that high horse 😇🤣 because the left will definitely respect your relationship with God.
I tought Douglas Wilson was intelligent….
what is wrong with the guest's mouth?
Without hearing this first. Yes, we should vote for him and Christianity. He will lead with God first.
You can't have it both ways. You can vote for Trump, but you are opposing the virtues of Christianity by so doing by voting for such an evil man.
voting for trump is not voting for Christianity. just the opposite.
Trump is ok with me ! He kept his promises and being an independent voter I’ll vote for him again!
You vote for a tyrant, an insurrectionist, and a wannabe dictator. He has even said he wants to abolish articles of the constitution.
💯, otherwise a Sikh or Hindu. Keep it Christian.
I have to admit that I have never liked Donald Trump. Now I say that based upon watching and listening to him on television. That said, having not known the man personally, and not knowing what he is like as a private person. That's a pretty weak way to base an opinion. Now as the years have passed since he was elected President. I have watched and listened to, what is nothing less than an all-out never ending, attempt to totally destroy the man's character, his name, his families name and just about anything and everything about him. I have been around for many years now and I think I have the wisdom to see when something just isn't right. There appears to be something about this man that has a large number of his fellow human beings, gnashing their teeth to destroy him totally and utterly. Many just salivate verbally to see him imprisoned. What is it that drives this apparent fear and loathing. All this said, come what may, if he wins his party's nomination for 2024. I will vote for this man. Not because I love or like him, but because so much hate pointed towards him, leaves me no other choice.
"There appears to be something about this man that has a large number of his fellow human beings, gnashing their teeth to destroy him totally and utterly." Yes, because of his gross immorality, criminality, narcissism, arrogance, dishonesty, and utter disregard for the rule of law,... just to name a few.
@@jimscott9974 For me, it is because of the many obvious crimes he has committed both as president, and while running for president.
For me, it is because of the many obvious crimes he has committed both as president, and while running for president.
@@jimscott9974 Well said.
I would Definitely vote for Trump again! I don't care how "irascible" people think he is; We need someone who
is Willing and Able to "step on the toes" of our adversaries, both Here and Abroad, to keep them in line with
the civilized world. We're not electing a Buddy, or a Pastor, we're electing someone who is Strong and Patriotic,
and knows how to keep Tyrants in check. Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer!
T***p is a tyrant, has even said he wants to abolish some articles of the Constitution. He favored Putin's word over all 18 US intelligent agencies. He incited an insurrection on January 6. Is that what you call "Strong and Patriotic"?
Isn’t you country a Socialist country?
Obviously the question should be why wouldn’t you vote conservative - DUH
Lower abortion rates, lower infant mortality rates, lower maternal mortality rates, lower poverty rates, lower teen pregnancy rates, lower divorce rates, more jobs, less deficits. Is that enough reasons to vote Democrat? (I have more if you want them).
Whether than "why wouldn't you vote conservative," may it should be, "why wouldn't you vote your christian conscience." Appeal to God's wisdom, not man's. For instance the ends doesn't justify the means for the believer. God does tell us to commit some "minor sins" to prevent "major sins." If we consider, both evil, for instance, then by voting for either, and sinning against you conscience is not what God wants. Our kingdom is not of this world.
No practicing Roman Catholic person should ever say “I am a Christian.” The reason is this: RC people love the theology of the RC church, far more than the THEOLOGY OF JESUS CHRIST.
To call Trump an ungodly man is a massive understatement. He joyously makes a mockery of everything the Christ stands for.
Like what?
@AddYourEnergy,
Please provide proof.
@AddYourEnergy,
Thought you wouldn't respond.
Because you can't back up your lies.
Trump publicly on more than one occasion gave respect to Jesus Christ.
And he respects the Bible.
I've never seen a political leader in the modern age openly endorse the Bible.
You want the man to be perfect or something?
To measure up to your perfect standard?
Idiot.
Solely speaking about him as a person, wholly separate from politics; he worships money and success, he's an egomaniac, he's callous and crude, he embellishes the truth and outright lies, and he's thuggish. It doesn't take a genius to see that the new testament isn't really on his mind lol. I mean, politically its whatever but don't act dumb people.
@@baddog6003
You Juat gave your opinion of Mr Trump, whom you evidently dislike.
Nothing that you have written proves the point made by @AddYourEnergy,
Also these days many don't like straight taking people like Mr. Trump.
Everythings softly softly these days.
That's why Mr Trump upsets people like you.
Then you mentioned his many failings. Like you're perfect.
The only difference between him and you is your failings have not been highlighted to the public. Because your not famous.
'All have sinned,' including you.
truth always scares the cowards off.. trump 2024
funny..how many lies has Trump been caught in? lol
@@martin9410 lol if you think he has been caught in lies list them and be specific in details its funny how you people make a claim and never offer any evidence of your claim..
@@towerace1238 you’re kidding right? There are thousands of them, that are well documented. So let’s just mention his latest one. In the last few days, he said, he never once said to lock Hillary up. Yet there is numerous video evidence he said that very thing 100s of times. Why are you in denial of the evidence.
@@towerace1238 I'm not sure what world you're living in (oh that's right the Mega world), but his lies and misrepresentations have been well documented, probably in the 30 to 40 thousands. And then on top of that the ignorance of your statement. Every politician lies and to assume that one doesn't is plain ignorant. It's just that Trump has raised lying, not to a fine art (for he's not very good at it), but to a higher quantity above every other politician. From saying he never said to lock Hillary up to the thousands of other iies that he knows his cult followers will drink up with a lap dog passion.
Everyone should vote for Trump.
I appreciate all the great things Trump did as president, but a vote for Trump in the primary is a vote for Biden. People need to wake up and start thinking realistically and strategically for the sake of the country's future. It's not 2016 anymore.
That's certainly a narrative.
@@VincesInHocSigno It's the truth. An obvious truth.
It’s worse now than 2016 which means that we need Trump as our leader and President now more than ever! No other can do the MAGA job that needs to be done ONLY Trump.
@@261ECENTER I'm sorry but he will lose and we can't afford to lose.
@@mbb-- lol WRONG
Without any hesitation 😊 Trump 2024 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
Without any hesitation, no Trump in 2024. Vote your Christian conscience.
American should vote for Trump - - not religion- Democracy don’t work like that.
Trump 2024! Nuff said!!!
I'm renewed in my faith and I believe if we want to practice our religion we had better vote for Trump.
Trump isn't a Christian. Supporting Trump is giving Jesus the middle finger.
Yes, all Christian should vote Trump.
So Trump was a little careless with his tweets, which could be a bit annoying, but he kept the majority of his promises and was the best president in a long time, and compared to the cabbage Biden, who has destroyed America, Trump outclasses him in every way, I would vote Trump again, that’s a definite…
Really? Where are those "beautiful, clean coal jobs"? Where was that "infrastructure week"? Where was his "big beautiful health care plan"? He even blew it on the southern border wall. And pardoned Steve Bannon for stealing over $1 million that was supposed to go for building the wall. T***p is the most criminal, most anti-constitutional, most incompetent president in US history. T***p is also lost the Presidency, the House, and the Senate in 4 years (first time since Hoover), left office with less jobs than when he came in (first time since Hoover), impeached twice, lost the popular vote twice, and increased the national debt by $7.8 trillion (25%) in 4 years. He is the most pathetic, most abysmal excuse of living tissue on planet earth. Bacteria are embarrassed to breathe the same air as T***p. And Christian T***p supporters have made themselves the epitome of Christian hypocrite.