FINAL Porsche Problems...Power Locks, Wipers, Cruise Control ('84 928S)

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024

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  • @major__kong
    @major__kong Год назад +7

    Reminds me of a typical Just Rolled In video. Customer states, "I took it to a shop, and afterwards everything stopped working." But the "other shop" is the customer, and they pulled the relays and put them back in the wrong spot but don't want to admit they worked on it.

  • @iancole944
    @iancole944 Год назад +36

    I’m actually impressed by how easily diagnosed and serviceable this car seems to be. Seems far better than anything with computer modules in it. Hope the mechanicals are similarly serviceable when the time comes.

    • @denrayr
      @denrayr Год назад +20

      Don't be fooled. Ivan makes it look easy!

    • @stevenakn1
      @stevenakn1 Год назад

      ​@@denrayryes sir

    • @petrnemecek4379
      @petrnemecek4379 Год назад

      Modern cars have a lot more sensors and functions. Computer modules were created to simplyfy things. Todays cars would be impossible with only relay logic.

  • @BroadcastBuddy
    @BroadcastBuddy Год назад +7

    This is better than cable TV.

  • @joepalovick1915
    @joepalovick1915 Год назад +27

    Great video series Ivan. Almost no parts required and you fixed it without any high end test equipment. Old school. Very impressive.

    • @LesReeves
      @LesReeves Год назад +1

      Old vehicle = old school tool requirements thats why I like them. Computers have their place but newer vehicles go overboard with their use. (By the way I'm not computer illiterate I used to build them & still upgrade my own laptops (7) ).

  • @baxrok2.
    @baxrok2. Год назад +7

    We've gone from "Euro Trash" to "Older Europeans." Well done Ivan!

  • @CodycoWeb
    @CodycoWeb Год назад +9

    I worked at AC Delco hotline for a few years as their euro line manager and the German wiring diagrams while looking overwhelming after you get used to them make a lot more sense and have loads of info than regular diagrams. One trick it to always work from the load back to power source, it just seems easier. Great job on this and shows how detailed the Germans are on many systems.

    • @jtjones4727
      @jtjones4727 Год назад

      I still remember the first time I looked at "Track" style wiring diagrams for a VW, I said "what the F is going on with this diagram". But you get used to them pretty fast, and I do like them. I actually like VWs diagnostic software also, the way everything is split into groups. Where as with Ford or Nissan for example, you log in with your scan tool, and go to live data it's just a mess with 400 data pids that you have to parse through to find something simple.

  • @billsmith5166
    @billsmith5166 Год назад +16

    Wow, great job. Can you imagine what he would have paid at a Porsche dealer? The car would have been totalled!

    • @vadim7590
      @vadim7590 Год назад +3

      I don't think dealers work on cars this vintage. You're lucky if they can order parts for you.

    • @danielg4228
      @danielg4228 Год назад +2

      The dealer won't touch it. Went to the local Chrysler Dodge dealer with a 2008 Dodge Sprinter for an alignment. They wouldn't do it . The reason " the vehicle is too big " . They keep sending me offers for new vans though . No thanks !

  • @basshunter428
    @basshunter428 Год назад +8

    I knew someone that owned a 1982 928S. That car is fast! And the trans is designed so you can't miss a gear! It handles like it's glued to the road! Great vid, Ivan! 👍

  • @markmalikowski4971
    @markmalikowski4971 Год назад +12

    It seems that someone went to Harry's U Pull it for the incorrect relays. I'm amazed at the amount of small issues that you resolved. Well done, Ivan, great series!!

    • @anonymuswere
      @anonymuswere Год назад +1

      not unless they went to another state. junkyards are few and far between in PA, and as far as I know, there ARE no 'u pull it' style yards, here, because safety reasons. also, the few yards that are left (one in my area got cleaned out because they found COAL under it!) only carry things five years old or less that have been wrecked. about 15 or so years ago, there was a copper rush on as well, and most older yards were cleaned out for the extremely high scrap value. it got so bad at one point people were stealing one-ton rolls of copper wire from electrical substations, chopping down power poles, and raiding dealerships to steal ALL the aluminum wheels off of not only cars but off brand-new Mack trucks sitting in the dealer lot!

    • @markmalikowski4971
      @markmalikowski4971 Год назад

      As far as I know, Harry's U Pull It is the only one. They have 3 locations, plus a junk your car lot.

    • @anonymuswere
      @anonymuswere Год назад

      @@markmalikowski4971 Lemmie guess, it's something like 8-10 hours away from me somewhere near Philly, Harrisburg, or Scranton Wilkes-Barre? Only for a true collectible would I go that far.

  • @jws3925
    @jws3925 Год назад +13

    "This is kind of fun once you get the hang of it" I am not thinking that the majority of auto techs would have that point of view. One of a kind, Ivan, one of a kind.
    Them are some noisy door locks.

    • @johnt.848
      @johnt.848 Год назад

      They definitely need some lubrication.

    • @dwindeyer
      @dwindeyer Год назад +1

      All of the electric motors are noisy, I imagine the motors are due for a rebuild and lubrication

  • @TheOnespeedbiker
    @TheOnespeedbiker Год назад +5

    This is one of my favorite videos series by Ivan. I had a very similar experience with a 1994 GMC Jimmy that was gifted to me. At the time it was 28 years old with only 97,000 miles but had about a dozen minor problems including brakes/tail lights, windshield wipers that would not turn off and oil leaking from the remote oil filter line. You just take the issues one at a time and figure them out (of course replacing a relay on a circuit board is out of my league) and it's so interesting to watch a master at work.

  • @AP9311
    @AP9311 Год назад +2

    Ah! There's the conclusion of the series! That's frigging awesome having fix all the issues with relays being wrong places! Almost no NPR! That is sweet victory! I bet the owner is happy with the result and knows it's well worth the labor you earned doing it! You got him for life lol. Awesome video Ivan!!

  • @flatdaddio
    @flatdaddio Год назад +3

    Wow, Great video Ivan. I never thought all the relays would be switched around. Very cool diagnostics!!

  • @wernerdanler2742
    @wernerdanler2742 Год назад +1

    Someone at some time messed with that fuse box and got the relays wrong. Was it the owner or some shop mechanic that didn't know how to read the owners manual.
    I had an 83 Peugeot and an 85 Mercedes with those lozenge type fuses. I absolutely hated them.
    The fuse boxes were in the engine compartment on both of them and were prone to corrosion.
    The fuses themselves could come apart on you because the metal part is not secured to the plastic.
    A newer design of them had the metal imbedded in the plastic so it would not slide off like on the older smooth style.
    Those were used on just about all European cars at one time while American cars had sealed glass fuses.
    At least Porsche put the fuse box in the cabin!
    Thanks, Ivan. I enjoyed these videos. 😊😊

  • @2packs4sure
    @2packs4sure Год назад +1

    Lol,, it's amazing that so many power actuated features on the car,, the door locks,, the rear hatch,, the windshield washers,,,, sound like rocks in a blender..
    LUXURY !!

  • @robertlacob8831
    @robertlacob8831 Год назад

    Impressed you found all someone else's mistakes so fast! bravo! Somebody had self-sabotaged that car. 928s are one of the best Porches ever built.

  • @csebastian71
    @csebastian71 Год назад +3

    Great series. Love the no parts required.

  • @Hybriddiag
    @Hybriddiag Год назад +1

    Great effort to restore a classic 👏 👌 one thing agaun i admire is your diagram reading skills 👌 👏 👍🏿 🙌..cheers

  • @robertmazzawy8322
    @robertmazzawy8322 Год назад +1

    This is almost comical with missing and misplaced relays.....who had previously serviced this car? Certainly not Diagnose Dan. Great work on your part, Ivan.

  • @Sandmansa
    @Sandmansa Год назад +1

    If I had to guess, It's looking more and more like the last owner of this car used it as a beater / parts car. And the current owner is trying to bring it back into service. Or am I wrong and they just have been going to a hack for way to long? I don't think all that happened just by accident. Burned relay, mixed up relays, wrong relay, missing relay and a burn fuse fixed most of this car. But wow! Making heads or tails of that spaghetti diagram was a task all on it's own. And all it took a diagnostic expert a couple of days to figure it out and fix all of it. Awesome job Ivan!

  • @mtebaldi1
    @mtebaldi1 Год назад +1

    Very well-documented video on this repair of the 928 Porsche. Great technical troubleshooting on the multiple issues plaguing this Porsche. Gret job Ivan.

  • @chefrarestones1960
    @chefrarestones1960 Год назад +2

    This was a cool one!! Love that old Porsche and its quirky but simple layout. The central door locks are my favorite!!

  • @deanwolcott1008
    @deanwolcott1008 Год назад +1

    Great job! Must be so satisfying to break the code of the electrical diagram then repair each problem with a simple fix!

  • @MarzNet256
    @MarzNet256 Год назад +2

    So cool the way the repairs seemed to just flow from one to the next. Awesome work!

  • @brianw8963
    @brianw8963 Год назад

    Kinda glad I got sidetracked for a bit, taking in these last 3 made for a great Saturday morning, though it took 3 cups of coffee. Nice work as always Ivan. Thanks! 👍👍🇺🇸

  • @tomgeorge3726
    @tomgeorge3726 Год назад

    Great series of videos Ivan.
    You can tell its 1984 vintage, even Porsche couldn't stop that annoying plastic creaking everytime you move in the car.

  • @htownblue11
    @htownblue11 Год назад +2

    Amazing yet again Ivan. Most of those electronics had a high level of complexity despite the simplistic principles of on and off older vehicle electronics usually use.

  • @titaniumman_22
    @titaniumman_22 Год назад +1

    Totally impressed every time! Nice work Pine Hollow!

  • @johnfleming3289
    @johnfleming3289 Год назад

    SO complex old cars can be fixed. Well done Ivan.

  • @stevenhovinga6584
    @stevenhovinga6584 Год назад +1

    Ivan, this type of troubleshooting video is one of my favorite. Seems whenever I get a car to work on (older cars) I have to go through the exact same process to remedy multiple issues. Its very satisfying to pick away at all the little quirks and fix them. Great job! ✌

    • @jfv65
      @jfv65 Год назад +1

      I think with these rare old cars they often go thru a phase in which they are owned as cheap hoopties and maintained by shadetree mechanics or even the owners themselves.
      With this 928 that was probably the case.
      It could be that issues didn't actually get fixed eventhough attempts were made. (wrong and switched around relais).
      Then finally a new owner gets smart about it and asks Ivan to fix it because he has the skills and the documentation and he knows where to get the correct parts.

  • @johnstancato8785
    @johnstancato8785 Год назад +1

    Surprisingly this cars problems were pretty simple fixes luckily I think the hardest part was wrapping your head around the diagram good detective work as always God bless

  • @flycatchful
    @flycatchful 10 месяцев назад

    You never let us down and teach us so many things.

  • @randyking3967
    @randyking3967 Год назад

    Nice work Ivan , really like the (older car) cases.. my friend actually had one of these back in high school, it was the envy of all of us.. 👍

  • @cullenmiller8170
    @cullenmiller8170 Год назад +1

    Nice series and great trouble shooting. I guess someone was doing the swaptronics with the relays and got them all messed up.

  • @mikechiodetti4482
    @mikechiodetti4482 Год назад

    This was a great video series Ivan. I hope the customer is enjoying the vehicle now. Those wiring diagrams remind me of Peterbuilt and Navistar/International wiring diagrams.
    The use of relays to separate/reroute the power is very interesting.
    Good One Ivan!

  • @wallebo
    @wallebo Год назад

    Ivan: After watching every one of your videos you are still impressing me on the daily. That is hard to do. I would be willing to bet that the diagnosticians that are your equal are few and very far between. Kudos, sir! You deserve.

  • @MrTonyPiscatelle
    @MrTonyPiscatelle Год назад

    Nice work Ivan. I did a repaint and interior replace on a similar Porche back in the early 1980's it was a bear !

  • @chillybrit2334
    @chillybrit2334 Год назад

    The roman numerals for the relays are charming :)

  • @senanfoutchedjev2401
    @senanfoutchedjev2401 Год назад

    Nice to have this Porsche old but most is fixed by no parts required. 4.7L sure must be nice. Thanks Ivan.

  • @mikesvirtualgarage9917
    @mikesvirtualgarage9917 Год назад

    Awesome series! Being an older German car guy these were a treat to watch. The sunroof switch fix is exactly what us old Audi guys do too! The switch just needs taken apart and cleaned 96% of the time. I think the older Audi 5000's had an intensive washer tank too. I'll patiently wait for more older German car wrenching :)

  • @StevenDaugherty-uo5cs
    @StevenDaugherty-uo5cs Год назад

    Relays, relays and more relays, the was Porsche in the 70's and 80's they loved their relays. The 924's were pretty easy but the 928's were a lot more complicated. Great job sorting all that circuitry out. Especially with those crazy wiring diagrams. Very enjoyable series ivan.

  • @rafflesnh
    @rafflesnh Год назад

    More noisy whirring sounds from the central locking now. Wonder why they didn't use solenoid actuators in those days? Glad you had another great result, Ivan. 👍

  • @amundsen575
    @amundsen575 Год назад +1

    great series, Im sure this will help many 928 owners out there

  • @tomlewis3658
    @tomlewis3658 Год назад

    Now the best thing that could happen is if another similar Porsche rolls up or is towed into the shop with a few dozen electrical issues, while this experience is still fresh in your mind.

  • @Santiago-je5ki
    @Santiago-je5ki Год назад

    I swear, never cease to amaze me.

  • @Notsostuck
    @Notsostuck Год назад

    You must have channeled Ferdinand Porsche for this project, great approach to old school relay control diagnostics.

  • @GreyRockOne
    @GreyRockOne Год назад

    Nice work Ivan! You had to "un-tinker" what the owner tinkered with, that cost him.

  • @oldbiker9739
    @oldbiker9739 Год назад +3

    just one more test drive .... just one more test drive ... just one more test drive lol

  • @pantherplatform
    @pantherplatform Год назад

    I love buying something that is one minor issue away from the crusher and solving all it's issues and driving it payment free for years to come. I saved the engine in my 95 540i after reading a tsb for the oil pump and when I checked it the sprocket was just about to fall off the pump even tho the engine had been replaced under warranty because the blocks were defective due to the alloy and the fuel not liking each other.

  • @ppeterson9359
    @ppeterson9359 Год назад

    Gotta love a good game of relay roulette!

  • @alicetaylor1001
    @alicetaylor1001 Год назад +1

    Great video as always Ivan my heart stopped with a washer fluid didn't work after you fixed it till you added fluid made me laugh

  • @clintprice2123
    @clintprice2123 Год назад +2

    Ivan does it again! Nice work as always.

  • @GarnConstructionInc
    @GarnConstructionInc Год назад

    Mr green crusty has nothing to drink in that fuse/control box. Nice work Ivan! I was expecting some worn out items but not many.

  • @SW-ye9tx
    @SW-ye9tx Год назад

    I like doing this kind of "all you can fix" dig when I buy a new used car, it's very satisfying. Great video series!
    (btw the oil pressure sensor seems shot as well ;-)

  • @robpeabo509
    @robpeabo509 Год назад +1

    Ivan, looking at the electrical diagram and all the wiring, relays, pass though relays to other relays makes me think that the Porsche is the reason why CANBUS was invented for automobiles😜! This vehicle’s harness (harnesses to be truthful), wiring, control circuitry etc is crazy complex, though I do concede they were working in the bounds of the technology of the day.

  • @ivorgotten2368
    @ivorgotten2368 Год назад +1

    Funny but I am from this era (16 in 1979), and I don't remember any of my cars being this Clunky and noisy LOL. All that whirring and knocking would really pee me off these days. Maybe I only remember the good bits of the 70s - 80s HaHa. Great job getting your head around our euro schematics/diagrams👍👍 UK.

  • @davidhollfelder9940
    @davidhollfelder9940 Год назад

    Hmm, I have a Rock Auto refrigerator magnet collection as well. They’re on my shop fridge.
    Nice relay “race” for the win.

  • @johnt.848
    @johnt.848 Год назад

    Nice fixes, only thing I saw that bugged me was the gear shift boot being loose, it needed a new leather thong threaded through the top of it and tied up like the original would have had.

  • @likearockcm
    @likearockcm Год назад

    Ivan has officially graduated from the Porsche repair school. Porches come in and Ivan is like "It's just that again"

  • @larrybe2900
    @larrybe2900 Год назад +17

    I strongly suggest another test drive to be sure everything works properly. You want the owner to be extremely pleased.

    • @moo3993
      @moo3993 Год назад +2

      You can never have enough test drives

    • @leeross7896
      @leeross7896 Год назад +2

      His Wife took it the moment he got it fixed, he hasnt seen it since :)

  • @davidrmcmahon
    @davidrmcmahon Год назад +2

    I feel like you’re falling in love with the Porsche!

  • @rivervalleytradingpost7502
    @rivervalleytradingpost7502 Год назад

    Loved watching this Porsche Series . Great content as always. Look Forward to what's to come

  • @anonymuswere
    @anonymuswere Год назад

    so most of it for this was wear and tear items that you basically couldn't get proper replacements for even when she was only about 10 years old. I've been running into this kind of stuff a lot lately (I've had nothing BUT high mileage used), on top of the inevitable PA rust rule stuff that plagues used more often.
    I have learned more in the past nine months from you, South Main, Watch Wes Work, wrenching with Kenny, and even Adept Ape (a CAT Diesel repairman out in the midwest) than older generations ever deigned to teach...and all this over a popped fusible link in the alternator harness of a jeep that we thought we fried the computer in.

  • @jeremygoodmurphy1324
    @jeremygoodmurphy1324 Год назад

    These have got to be the best diagnostic videos and common sense repair approach that I've seen!
    Anyone have any thoughts on the memory seats on an 88 s4? Absolutely everything else on the car works except the memory seats🙄

  • @marcodm
    @marcodm Год назад

    You made me think on my 88 M3, cruise control never worked, now need to glance on my clutch pedal see if theres a switch

  • @mikeluscher159
    @mikeluscher159 Год назад +1

    The writing on the fuse box implies its a salvage/swapped/used part
    I wonder if that's how this car picked up all these "electrical issues"
    Also, the oil pressure gauge seems pegged at all the pressure, I wonder if the senders no good?
    Excellent repairs as usual Ivan 👌

  • @teekay_1
    @teekay_1 Год назад +3

    Nice Work
    I'm guessing the owner is going to sell it. As cool as this car is, it will continue to have this little problems that get aggravating. He can probably get a good price now as interest in the 928 is beginning to rise as all the air cooled 911 's are now in the ridiculous price range.

  • @JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
    @JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT Год назад +3

    Great job, Ivan! After you got the hang of the crypto-schematic, it was much easier to follow the circuits :-)
    Someone removed the relays and didn't put them back properly - unprofessional and probably done by some weekend hobbyist, considering the overall "maintenance" condition of the car.

  • @nevillegoddard4966
    @nevillegoddard4966 Год назад

    Excellent work Ivan!😄👍

  • @motorwolfe
    @motorwolfe Год назад

    great job and don't you love those easy fixes!! this car isn't unreliable, but whoever was in there previously reassigning random relays sure is.

  • @D989501L
    @D989501L Год назад +1

    Looks like if has been left parked up for a long time all the mechanisms sound like they are running in sand they could do with a good greasing or soaking in WD? . Well built car to still work after being neglected for so long.

  • @philarends7555
    @philarends7555 Год назад

    Those schematics are pretty common in European industrial equipment. Once you get used to them, it's hard to go back. It's nice to know what page and where on page it's showing up again.

  • @michaelgleason4791
    @michaelgleason4791 Год назад +2

    Imagine that, when you put all the parts where they go things start working 😂

  • @dongelgef5655
    @dongelgef5655 Год назад

    Good series of diagnostics, So when are you going to get one Ivan? You seemed to like it a lot, even your wife liked it ....Thats win win😉😁

  • @ThisIS_Insane
    @ThisIS_Insane Год назад

    IVAN!! YOU SLAY ME with this stuff!!! LOVE IT!! 🥳🥳🤯🤯

  • @vancity2349
    @vancity2349 Год назад

    Ivan your an amazing mechanic, smart creative and patient and always find the issue. Very impressive 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

  • @ddire333
    @ddire333 Год назад

    Wow ivan, I watch every week and you finally go to my baby, the 928, have had to do most of the faulty finding you did and more, they sure can test you. Mine was running rich, and after 2 months of testing and purchase of my first scope, some missed part cannon shots, previous owner had forced a coding plug in backwards so ecu was looking for an O2 sensor which did exist....arhhh

  • @EDP1
    @EDP1 Год назад

    great job . tip the wascher fluid should reach mutch higher on the window . els if you drive on the highway,
    the wind will push it more down . the water jet should reach atleast 1/3 on the window up .

  • @patriel1
    @patriel1 Год назад

    That was a mind bender for sure!

  • @Grayhook1
    @Grayhook1 Год назад +2

    Did you ever go to the library to get wiring diagrams?😂😂 I did, and as much as I was intimidated tackling electrical problems, I somehow managed to get into ‘the zone’ and got the jobs done. (All personal, family and friends cars)

  • @isalmankhan1
    @isalmankhan1 Год назад

    Superb, really appreciate your work👍🏻
    Bcuz of you we were able to learn about some Porsche's circuits, looking forward to more Porsche video's on your channel😍
    Thanks for sharing BRO, Stay Safe😍

  • @MattyEngland
    @MattyEngland Год назад

    That porsche had more ailments than sleepy Joe 😂
    Top work as always 👍

  • @gezdipz5425
    @gezdipz5425 Год назад

    Love these porsches,I know this is a long shot probably a lot of techs watching these vids I have a range rover sport 09 plate in the UK and have an abs and traction light on and pointers guys Tia

  • @braddofner
    @braddofner Год назад

    Ahhhhh.... the conclusion! Satisfaction shall be mine!

  • @brianmcculloch6341
    @brianmcculloch6341 Год назад

    Excellent series.

  • @Paul-gw6ow
    @Paul-gw6ow Год назад

    fun to watch.... wish i was young again with your know how

  • @jtjones4727
    @jtjones4727 Год назад

    Pretty sweet old car. Makes me almost want to get an old Porsche from that vintage. I love how almost everything is serviceable on those old rides. Not like these modern cars which are just, drive them 120k (if your lucky) and them send them to the crusher.

  • @stevencox75
    @stevencox75 Год назад +1

    might be worth going through the rest of those relays mate, looks like someone just whacked them in anywhere!

  • @Runco990
    @Runco990 Год назад

    You are correct, Ivan. I am European, and every system in my body is having problems as I get older. 🙃

  • @leeross7896
    @leeross7896 Год назад +1

    you didnt say how you fixed the clock but at the very end we see that its working.

  • @deweyrussell8376
    @deweyrussell8376 Год назад

    Wow Ivan, great series.

  • @GerardPinzone
    @GerardPinzone Год назад +1

    Ah, the "Money Pit" finale!

  • @roxanneabbott8424
    @roxanneabbott8424 Год назад

    Again nice work Ivan!!!

  • @bitzclipsmatt214
    @bitzclipsmatt214 Год назад

    i noticed at the end that the clock was working. free bonus😀

  • @USA-k5v
    @USA-k5v Год назад

    Awesome work..loving it

  • @mattmaxon7783
    @mattmaxon7783 3 месяца назад

    My experience with those micro switches is adjusting the actuator levers is its a temporary fix

  • @jimo8636
    @jimo8636 Год назад

    Par for the course. These issues with the car will never stop.

  • @badgerdave22
    @badgerdave22 Год назад

    Ivan the Magician! Nice video series!

  • @freestyle-w3d
    @freestyle-w3d Год назад

    nice tips bro

  • @blueskiesmobileauto4253
    @blueskiesmobileauto4253 Год назад

    This was an awesome series of fixes Ivan! Sweet car too!