Nice idea. In computer science we call this a quadtree. We use it to partition large data so we can parallelize data processing more efficiently. The problem with it for note taking is that it is not very space efficient as others have pointed out. You can more efficiently do this with a mindmap which u introduced in your opening. Also during a lecture u can’t always partition things neatly until u have heard enough. And in some cases categorizations exceed 4. I would use a mindmap tool or something like sage3.
This video just not only gave me the best advise on how to Summarizing the topics for review and revision but also eliminated the need for mind maps by taking in its essence. Now , one page will give an overview on all the topics and upon complementing it with studying in layers. It becomes a fully functional weapon.
I think this is a great idea. The principle (of synthesizing and categorizing/cataloguing the information you’re learning) applies in any circumstance. However, I think this particular layout is limited to situations where you’re frontloaded with the information/table of content before the ‘engagement’ starts such as in reading a book (as you’ve shown) or in a lecture/workshop where pre reads have been sent. In a business engagement, what I find helpful is to use majorly four groupings (the 4th can sometimes be broken into two making 5 in total). Sometimes I use a quadrant, sometimes just the headers: - Discussion (highlighting the main discussion points) - Questions (especially if it’s my team leading the engagement or the ones I may have) - Feedback (my intended responses and/or the ones I’ll receive) - Action points/next steps (things to do, share, analyze, meet again, etc…) Thank you for sharing though.
We need a piece of software that allows us to drill down while making notes this way, because using paper… I can see a lot of headaches as the writing gets smaller and smaller…
When I unexpectedly saw the notification of this video, I thought I 've known this task and technique from your book but l realize that it beats me,so i decided to watch this full video Thanks Jim to always share your thoughts and your helpful solutions❤❤❤
Jim, your method for mind mapping is great. I've been following you for a while now, when I needed the most something flashed in my brain and your videos/podcasts were all I needed. Keep it on, mantain what is working and try what is new independently from the result. Enjoy the journey of becoming your best self. And if you forget anything in the path as soon you come back for getting it, the closer it is. I do not know you, but I think that' what I need to say to you. Thanks for everything
WOW, i'M HOOKED ON TAKING NOTES THIS WAY. I am applying this concept to every area and aspect of my life. Thanks Jim you are a Super Hero Trainer for real.
This is great! I love sifting it down to a one page overview! I think the high-level view - no matter how many 4x's are added - helps one recall the details. Trying this on a client's project today. Thanks.
Depends on the subject. It sure can be (many subjects have frameworks/key ideas that branch off). But for something like maths? It'd be neigh impossible, as it's a very linear path.
@@Christoff8188 exactly my thoughts as I am in that field which doesn’t reach out like this. But I also do studies in literature specifically law and it applies however I find it more useful focusing on more so the connection between those subjects as to how they relate.
What if your teacher gave you an agenda before the lecture? What if you showed your teacher this method and they adopted it as a way to structure a lecture? That could be very helpful.
Agree. When the speaker speaks you can't really put their speech into categories while listening. This method is better for brainstorming ideas or problem solving.
I'm I wrong or this quadrant technic is a way to organized notes after taking them, instead of a technic to take note directly in that way? Or it can also depend of the context notes are taken. Taking notes to write a book is not the same as taking notes in a lecture at university. In any ways, I find the video really helpful.
Thanks for sharing. Personally the layout is messy. The key takeaway for me is the notion of grouping in four. This could easily be replicated using a mind map or concept map. Using colour and shape to reinforce one’s note taking. It would also accommodate situations when one has identified more than four key ideas or sub ideas. Thanks for the sharing
1:54 - If i want to write down a toll-free phone number i heard on the radio, it is faster for me to write 0) for 800; 4) for 844; 7) for 877, etc. Then i can ficus on remembering the last seven digits of the number instead of all ten digits!
Unfortunately I feel this would be impossible to spontaneously whip up as a teacher is moving through a lecture. You need room to get in all the info & sometimes they present info or categories in a not so clear, smooth way where you don’t realize how things are grouped until after the fact. I feel like my mind would be distracted trying to strategize how things need to map out as the info is popping up on the screen I’d just miss a lot
Sorry, but no. Just no. This is not a practical way to actually take notes. Yes, it is true that the working memory has a limit of around pieces though. But the placement of the info into subcategories is not really the most important part for rembering and understanding. Also, by writing it like that, the squares soon become very small. Also all kinds of relations are lost by the rigid structure. Many relations are not of the subcategory of subcategory type. But I appreciate the effort in trying to create something a bit new.
I have been thinking about this and I think it could help when reading papers. They tend to be organized with headings and subheadings, and there are typically sections like Methods, Conclusion and so on, so you could make four-six boxes for the parts you really want to grasp. Then you'd sort of have a nice one page map of the paper, organized in chunks that could help with recalling details about the paper. You could save it with the paper. If you're old fashioned like me, you could print out the map and clip it to the research paper. Or you could add it to the file.
He said we remember information better when it's in chunks, and we tend to be good at recalling 5-7 pieces of info, with 4 being the sweet spot, so using four chunks is a good way to break down information.
Pretty poor presenting style. Like many Americans, you speak too fast, jump about the subject matter and litter your speech with 'you know','right','like' etc. Therefore it appears you're presenting the subject like a school kid. My advice - slow down, have your examples pre-planned, eliminate the extraneous verbiage.
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Jim I've got a startling question, that's I found out that you got two methods for taking notes. Which one is right.
Nice idea. In computer science we call this a quadtree. We use it to partition large data so we can parallelize data processing more efficiently. The problem with it for note taking is that it is not very space efficient as others have pointed out. You can more efficiently do this with a mindmap which u introduced in your opening. Also during a lecture u can’t always partition things neatly until u have heard enough. And in some cases categorizations exceed 4. I would use a mindmap tool or something like sage3.
Yeah & you would need to predict the number of categories within categories…
This video just not only gave me the best advise on how to Summarizing the topics for review and revision but also eliminated the need for mind maps by taking in its essence. Now , one page will give an overview on all the topics and upon complementing it with studying in layers. It becomes a fully functional weapon.
I think this is a great idea. The principle (of synthesizing and categorizing/cataloguing the information you’re learning) applies in any circumstance.
However, I think this particular layout is limited to situations where you’re frontloaded with the information/table of content before the ‘engagement’ starts such as in reading a book (as you’ve shown) or in a lecture/workshop where pre reads have been sent.
In a business engagement, what I find helpful is to use majorly four groupings (the 4th can sometimes be broken into two making 5 in total). Sometimes I use a quadrant, sometimes just the headers:
- Discussion (highlighting the main discussion points)
- Questions (especially if it’s my team leading the engagement or the ones I may have)
- Feedback (my intended responses and/or the ones I’ll receive)
- Action points/next steps (things to do, share, analyze, meet again, etc…)
Thank you for sharing though.
Wow, warm greetings from Uganda, East Africa, gonna give this one a shot❤
We need a piece of software that allows us to drill down while making notes this way, because using paper… I can see a lot of headaches as the writing gets smaller and smaller…
You can recreate this with Apple Freeform
Yeah unfortunately this feels very impractical
finally a good tip from jim kwik and surprisingly is one of the best tips I have ever come across.
When I unexpectedly saw the notification of this video, I thought I 've known this task and technique from your book but l realize that it beats me,so i decided to watch this full video
Thanks Jim to always share your thoughts and your helpful solutions❤❤❤
Jim, your method for mind mapping is great.
I've been following you for a while now, when I needed the most something flashed in my brain and your videos/podcasts were all I needed.
Keep it on, mantain what is working and try what is new independently from the result.
Enjoy the journey of becoming your best self.
And if you forget anything in the path as soon you come back for getting it, the closer it is.
I do not know you, but I think that' what I need to say to you.
Thanks for everything
Thank you very much for this. Im stuck in class right now and I’m grateful for this information.
This way of taking notes gives me so much thrill, I can’t wait to use it in my daily life. Thanks for the generous sharing!
WOW, i'M HOOKED ON TAKING NOTES THIS WAY. I am applying this concept to every area and aspect of my life. Thanks Jim you are a Super Hero Trainer for real.
Seconded!!
Thank you. This mind map is helpful. Breaking things down was a huge struggle for me.
Well said @IntuitiveInsightbytiffany, Same here for me too! I feel like I can see the binary numbers of the matrix in real life now, lol..
This is great! I love sifting it down to a one page overview! I think the high-level view - no matter how many 4x's are added - helps one recall the details. Trying this on a client's project today. Thanks.
Thank you for your Ground-Breaking 'Note-Taking'!!!✒️📖🎉
I really like this approach! Thank you for sharing!
This is the new way, can you please share one sample note you have made in the newsletter?
Nice method to organise and revise our notes. Thank you so much for your time and effort.
Thank you for your very informative and enriching videos. Its truly reflective
Great video.
Wow' this is awesome🎉
I see what you’re saying, but when going through a lecture, it’s not split up into this
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Depends on the subject. It sure can be (many subjects have frameworks/key ideas that branch off).
But for something like maths? It'd be neigh impossible, as it's a very linear path.
@@Christoff8188 exactly my thoughts as I am in that field which doesn’t reach out like this. But I also do studies in literature specifically law and it applies however I find it more useful focusing on more so the connection between those subjects as to how they relate.
What if your teacher gave you an agenda before the lecture? What if you showed your teacher this method and they adopted it as a way to structure a lecture? That could be very helpful.
I don’t think this would really help for taking notes during a lecture but it might be a helpful way to study after the lecture.
Agree. When the speaker speaks you can't really put their speech into categories while listening. This method is better for brainstorming ideas or problem solving.
Mind blowing idea. Thank you very much Jim
I'm I wrong or this quadrant technic is a way to organized notes after taking them, instead of a technic to take note directly in that way? Or it can also depend of the context notes are taken. Taking notes to write a book is not the same as taking notes in a lecture at university. In any ways, I find the video really helpful.
Yeah, I feel the same
Will try to use this approach for nursing school.
I liked it and will include it in my daily practice
This looks wonderful, but the audio on my computer is not working. Is there a transcript that accompanies this video, which I am not able to hear?
Turn the captions on
Very helpful! How would you do a finance class? 😮
I am interested to see if I can adopt this approach for writing a fiction book.
Great advice! Thanks
Thank You very much ! You're a genius! ;)
Beautiful mind map
Thank you😊
Seem like a good tool to find the topic and sub topic.
What book by Dolan are you talking about?
Thank you! You are amazing!
I understand why you are doing that but at some point the page is too "visually busy"
But what should I do if there is more than four related subtopic to the central topic, should I make another slice more than 4?
Messy intro with the number but good concept... Jump to @3:00 to get the gist.
Thanks you are professionals
Brilliant
Good principle and idea - but the pace of the video was a bit slow for me.
Play it at 1.25 speed or faster in video settings
Thanks for sharing. Personally the layout is messy. The key takeaway for me is the notion of grouping in four. This could easily be replicated using a mind map or concept map. Using colour and shape to reinforce one’s note taking. It would also accommodate situations when one has identified more than four key ideas or sub ideas. Thanks for the sharing
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1:54 - If i want to write down a toll-free phone number i heard on the radio, it is faster for me to write 0) for 800; 4) for 844; 7) for 877, etc. Then i can ficus on remembering the last seven digits of the number instead of all ten digits!
I wıll try, Is it useful for us in business and daily work? Has anyone tried it?
aka .. connecting the dots ... thank you.
But what if a category has more than 4 things? How will we make cross then?
Can someone explain this for me (I'm not good at English)
Break in 4(break in 4 (break in 4 (break in 4)))
Looks a bit messy, but will still try it.
So a decision tree?
Unfortunately I feel this would be impossible to spontaneously whip up as a teacher is moving through a lecture. You need room to get in all the info & sometimes they present info or categories in a not so clear, smooth way where you don’t realize how things are grouped until after the fact. I feel like my mind would be distracted trying to strategize how things need to map out as the info is popping up on the screen I’d just miss a lot
Another way of presenting a mind map
It's like repeating tessellating shapes. A map tends to spread out. This goes deep.
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sir if you take it as a critic rather than an attack. I would say plan your videos plz you take time to think and giving filler times this is not good
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For me, I live in the 3rd quadrant all day 😅
Isn’t this a version of mind maps?
The explanation was not great, but you may have persuaded me to teach outlining.
Sorry, but no. Just no. This is not a practical way to actually take notes.
Yes, it is true that the working memory has a limit of around pieces though.
But the placement of the info into subcategories is not really the most important part for rembering and understanding. Also, by writing it like that, the squares soon become very small.
Also all kinds of relations are lost by the rigid structure. Many relations are not of the subcategory of subcategory type.
But I appreciate the effort in trying to create something a bit new.
This doesn’t work for academic research Jim. Thanks for sharing though.
I have been thinking about this and I think it could help when reading papers. They tend to be organized with headings and subheadings, and there are typically sections like Methods, Conclusion and so on, so you could make four-six boxes for the parts you really want to grasp. Then you'd sort of have a nice one page map of the paper, organized in chunks that could help with recalling details about the paper. You could save it with the paper. If you're old fashioned like me, you could print out the map and clip it to the research paper. Or you could add it to the file.
Ok it works but i need to know why it works i dont want to do this system blindly
He said we remember information better when it's in chunks, and we tend to be good at recalling 5-7 pieces of info, with 4 being the sweet spot, so using four chunks is a good way to break down information.
Just make a bullet point list. It's easier to read and make.
I do these. Bullet points, nested bullet points. Maybe some keywords.
@@kabidyeiad2094 Exactly
Pretty poor presenting style. Like many Americans, you speak too fast, jump about the subject matter and litter your speech with 'you know','right','like' etc. Therefore it appears you're presenting the subject like a school kid. My advice - slow down, have your examples pre-planned, eliminate the extraneous verbiage.
Is the comments getting deleted …?