DIVERS REACT TO LAST BREATH
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Here's what we think it happened to Chris Lemons after being left stranded at the bottom of the ocean for 30 minutes without air!
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The crazy thing that you didn't even get to talk about was how he was blown off the structure he was working on when the umbilical snapped. So there he was without light or any way to guess where he was and had to just pick a direction and try and walk back to the structure so he could be found. Amazingly he got it right and was able to climb up onto the structure before losing air and passing out. That was key to being found by his team
Yeah. It's one of the craziest commercial diving stories I've ever heard. I can't imagine crawling in pitch black hoping to find the structure
Aww damn I was literally just about to make this exact same comment! Hahah! I heard this story not too long ago and man is it insane!
Yep, he was lucky, smart and refused the alternative….
Makes me wonder about a backup light powered by battery, in the rare event it was needed, or maybe it just wouldn't be powerful enough in that dark of an environment.
I loved this documentary, when it shows you the map lines of how far the vessel drifted from the divers and how quickly was just terrifying to watch! We have to put so much faith in our technology, when it fails its heart-breaking. He was truly lucky
There is a saying amongst doctors in these cold situations, you are not dead until you are warm and dead. Very good video, thank you.
I was going to comment the same thing. There was a woman in the 1970 that survived trapped under ice for over a hour and was revived.
@@likebutton3136 Dr. Anna Bagenholm en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_B%C3%A5genholm#:~:text=Anna%20Elisabeth%20Johansson%20B%C3%A5genholm%20(born,80%20minutes%20in%20freezing%20water. Most of her head was under ice cold water for a while but she could still breathe so by the time her heart stopped her brain was very cold.
True.
Woody was absolutely right about the cold being what saved him! I live in Sweden, where the temperature in the winter can easily get below -30 degrees celsius (so, below -22 degrees Fahrenheit), and there have actually been several “miracle” cases like the one in the video reported over the years (though most are not as dramatic as this one)
Many people here go ice skating on lakes, but if they’re not careful and the ice breaks and they can’t immediately get up and out of the water, they will essentially pass out from the extreme cold in less than a minute and dip below the surface. Their internal body temperature falls extremely quickly to way below the threshold for living, and all their bodily functions stop, and when emergency services manage to reach them 20 or 30 minutes later they are declared dead, because they are no longer breathing and there is no detectable heartbeat.
But then, once they start warming up again, they can sometimes be resuscitated. Some of them start breathing again and gets back their heartbeat, and later wake up with minor or no brain damage, despite their body and brain having been completely without oxygen for the entire time that they were “dead”. Death because of extreme cold isn’t always permanent, if your body temperature fell quickly enough, you’re lucky, and you’re found in time.
So, as we say (perhaps a bit morbidly) as a rule of thumb in the emergency health services up here in the north of Scandinavia, to remind all personnel to try to resuscitate cold patients even if they’re obviously not alive anymore: “They’re not dead until they’re _warm_ and dead.”
Just hearing “Sweden” and “Scandinavia” triggers me. I mean I love my country but fact is, the US sucks balls 😄 I know that’s entirely beside the point but feel happy for you
I live in the US in a New England state that gets a lot of snow and gets pretty cold. I had a friend in high school who was in a single vehicle car accident and was thrown from his car. He had a very bad head injury and wasn't found for a little while. The only reason he survived is because he landed in a snow bank and it helped keep him alive longer.
@@AlanWatts33 do your job and vote for sane leaders with a US first mindset. I don't understand how dnc/gop get so many votes.
I am a nurse and thought of the exact same saying. You're not dead until you are warm and dead
@@lemonsqweezy9532 yeah it’s crazy, the USA citizens are utterly defeated by the 2 party system. I vote based on my conscience as always. Ranked choice voting would help a lot
As someone once told me. "You're not dead until you're warm and dead."
He was mostly dead.
@@Sherwoody Princess Bride lol? He's only mostly dead 😂!
Similar thing happens with drug ODs. You can’t do a reliable neurological test to confirm brain death until the drugs are out of the person’s system.
Hi Dive Talk. (At - 11:30) - "Quick interruption, sorry about the length." Don't be sorry, actually enjoyed that part. Your comentry and the animation gave a good idea of what it's like and the amount of preparation/skill required to do this sort of work. Always enjoy the videos and content that you two guys put the time into making then sharing with us. Keep them coming, I'll keep watching!
7:00 in, They don’t live in the bell. They live in a habitat on board the ship that is compressed to the working depth ATA. The bell is only used to transport the divers to the work site. When ready for their shift, divers will move within the habitat down a tube to a chamber that the bell latches onto. An interlocking system allows the two to connect without depressurizing. The divers enter the bell, which is then lowered into the water to depth. They perform their shift, re-enter the bell, and are pulled back up, where they re-enter the habitat.
I remember watching this on Netflix a while ago, I immediately thought of y’all! The amount of luck this guy had, the colder temperatures and pressure that kept him alive down there for so long is incredible. The one diver that was very Spock and unemotional during the movie was a little creepy but I understand his rationale. Wonderful video! ❤️
Yeah he was a little weird
He’s just your typical commercial diver. Real solid dude from what I’ve been told!
@@HenricoK91 I was thinking he’s totally on the spectrum.
There are many recorded instances of cold water drownings, where the thing that is killing you, is also preserving you. Woody has it right. I had an experience in EMS with a young man who was shot and left on a snow drift to die. He was found, and when we finally got to him, he looked like a corpse, until I saw his eyes moving. Creepy, and yet very encouraging. He survived this, sadly a paraplegic as a result of the shooting, not the hypothermia. They hypothermia probably preserved his brain function as well, due to lower metabolic demands. When we got him to the hospital, we got to go watch what went on in the OR. They had to crack his chest and rewarm him with warm saline, before they could defibrillate him, as he was below the temperature threshold for defibrillation. Once they got him above 84F (He was down to 82!), they shocked his heart and off it went. It was amazing to see all of this.
It's amazing how the body works.
Wow!! Thank you for sharing this and the precise details, amazing! ❤😊
He’s a friend and a cohost of the Bottom Dwellers Dive Shack diving podcast. Amazing dude and tells us exactly why and how he survived! He also tells us about the compensation he got for the whole ordeal lol!
Would you rather live normal, or have a government responsible accident. Me I'm taking the settlement money
Thank You for the info. Would be great to hear what actually happened, kinda getting confused, doesn't help they're using a crappy RUclips video to work with, to explain this. Checking your channel out! ❤😊🤿👷🏻🌊🧗🏿♂️🌊🏊🚢⚓
Think I found the video. I'll post the link or the last bit which will get you there if YT won't allow links. I won't be watching the videos with strippers, kinda confusing but maybe it's a joke or not what it sounds like, idk... But here's the link, thanks guys!!
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nothing beats seeing a 40+ minute Dive talk get uploaded, really stoked to see you guys reacting to this one.
As a paramedic and recreational diver, I was thoroughly elated at the outcome of this documentary.
Hypothermia, gas mixture and peripheral vascular shunting are what slowed his metabolism and respiratory drive allowing his body to preserve itself. There are plenty of documented cases of drowning victims surviving their ordeals due to hypothermia and gradual rewarming and resuscitative efforts.
The general rule of thumb in EMS as it pertains to hypothermic emergencies is, "They aren't dead until they are warm and dead!"
I am quite sure that this medical phenomenon is NOT a long term solution but, it does allow for some to cheat the Reaper!
This is interesting in so many levels. I'm a former paramedic and one case where I live 2 boys capsizef with their canoe in 0 degree water and were under for almost 3 hours before the rescue team found them and immediately started CPR even if there were absolutely zero sign of life. When they came back to shore paramedics and doctors took over and the boys were airlifted to hospital. The helicopter team continued to give warm fluids, give adrenaline and kept doing CPR till they arrived at the hospital. ER staff continued, shocked him and kept going for almost 6 hours and just when the doctor was about to call it one of the boys heart started to beat, so they giving the other boy treatment and suddenly his heart started to beat as well. Both were rushed to the ICU and was there for over 2 weeks. Doctors prepared the parents for the worst and that they probably would have extensive brain damages. Well the day came to wake up one of the boys from general anesthesia and after a minute or so they asked if he could have hot chocolate. One the boys has some minor brain dameges and some motorical issues and the other boy is just like he was before the accident and recovered completely. Now I can't remember the medical term for it but basically the cold from the water slows down the heart rate, the cold protects the brain from swelling and needing less oxygene and the body adjust to needing very little oxygen to survive. It's so rare and super in common that this medical state happens and I think the same happened to the sat diver. I'm getting so pissed I can't remember the medical term. It's 6 word like hm hm hm hm hm hm shock and can happened during these conditions. Gah! I'm so frustrated I can't remember the medical term. I need to dig out my old med books.
So interesting!! Thanks for sharing
Up in Canada and U.S. border towns, they have been cases of reviving people that were submerged or found on land. Obviously not everyone so its not fail safe but there is some hope to try.
ITS CALLED HIBERNATION. Humans still have the ability to go cold & slow breathing
Also - the longer someone has been colder for the slower one should take in warming them up.
Ok, so first thing, I'm a surface supply and helmet diver in rescue services. I love your guys content and am always looking forward to your next episode. The diving helmet (Kirby Morgan KM 37) is what it look's like, is not open to the rest of the suit. There is a neck damn attached to the suit or it can be separate from the suit if you are diving wetsuit. The neck damn is air and water tight. The only air you would have in the event of an umbilical detachment is what you have in your bail-out bottle (emergency gas) and when that's empty, you would have about 3 to 4 breathes and that's it. As far as what kept him alive, the cold had a lot to do with it, and the fact that he was breathing tri-mix with a low O2 content for the last 3 weeks in the chamber preparing for the dive, his body was already accustomed to low O2. I'm in the upstate, we mainly deal with Jocassee, Keowee, and Hartwell, which I know you are filmier with. We have protocols as far as attempting resuscitation, depending on the water temps. We have revived drowning victims and cold water after 35 minutes. So, I hope this helps you guys and the viewers.
Very informative 👌
Thank you for the additional information. It helps.
So cool I live right near Jocassee so cool to see someone so close by watches dive talk. Small world ,great info 👍
Just amazing
This is interesting in so many levels. I'm a former paramedic and one case where I live 2 boys capsizef with their canoe in 0 degree water and were under for almost 3 hours before the rescue team found them and immediately started CPR even if there were absolutely zero sign of life. When they came back to shore paramedics and doctors took over and the boys were airlifted to hospital. The helicopter team continued to give warm fluids, give adrenaline and kept doing CPR till they arrived at the hospital. ER staff continued, shocked him and kept going for almost 6 hours and just when the doctor was about to call it one of the boys heart started to beat, so they giving the other boy treatment and suddenly his heart started to beat as well. Both were rushed to the ICU and was there for over 2 weeks. Doctors prepared the parents for the worst and that they probably would have extensive brain damages. Well the day came to wake up one of the boys from general anesthesia and after a minute or so they asked if he could have hot chocolate. One the boys has some minor brain dameges and some mltorical issues and the other boy is just like he was before the accident and recovered completely. Now I can't remember the medical term for it but basically the cold from the water slows down the heart rate, the cold protects the brain from swelling and the body adjust to needing very little oxygen to survive. It's so rare and super uncommon that this medical state happens and I think the same happened to the sat diver. I'm getting so pissed I can't remember the medical term. It's 6 word like hm hm hm hm hm hm shock and can happened during these conditions. Gah! I'm so frustrated I can't remember the medical term. I need to dig out my old med books.
I remember being offshore on a Saturation Dive job as a redhat tender in the Gulf of Mexico and this incident happened over in the North Sea and was the topic of discussion in our morning safety meeting after the details were released to the rest of the commercial diving industry. I then later worked on the Bibby Sapphire which is the sister ship to the Bibby Topaz.
This was an astonishing doc! He lives because he kept calm & the acceptance of the situation ! remarkable man!💙
Love the videos guys. I'm not a diver and I never plan on diving but I really enjoy the content and watching you guys react. Woody I love your sense of humor 🙂
Glad you like them!
Myself, also! I'm trying to figure out why Woody likes pink so much! I'm hoping it's
"Because I CAN........and I LIKE pink!"
I wish you could have reacted to the actual documentary! Hearing from his wife & coworkers is extremely moving. Whoever made this condensed RUclips version freaking sucks. Lol
but even then you cant really show the video or sound - way to easily you get a copyright claim/strike nowadays -
@@Rivale95 not true, it falls under fair use rules of Copyright Law. As long as Gus and Woody would add their own value (which is what they do when they stop the video and make commentary) then you can do it.
@@adeitsch youtube doesn't give a f about free use though. So many videos get struck down even though the content is fair use
@@lunchb0x1986 yea I think they were just being safe and only responding to the specific parts referring to the dive, makes sense
I think Gus cuts them himself. Lmfao 😂😂😂
He also was left in complete blackness on the BOTTOM on the sand and he couldn’t see anything at all. So he literally just picked one random way to get himself back to the rig they were working on knowing that he would give himself a better chance at being rescued if he pushed himself towards the rig and THEN aswell get up to the very top! That’s the famous picture you see where he’s lying there motionless but he’s made it to the very top of the rig which pretty much saved his life and made it easy for his buddy to get him.
Another interesting thing about the boat was that it had THREE failsafe systems and they ALL went offline which had NEVER happened before so everyone was so confused as to what to do. The boat drifted so far and eventually one of the technicians rebooted the system which was risky but it worked! They got there to the original spot thinking he’s gone but when he got up in the bell gave him a few breaths of air and he suddenly came to life !!! What a miracle amazing story !
Ive been waiting for you to react to this for so long!!!
The ship suffered catastrophic failure of _ALL_ of the computers controlling the motors keeping the ship stationary in rough seas, the backups, redundancies, _EVERYTHING!_
Chris was dragged across the seabed as the ship drifted in the water. His umbilical snagged on the structure he was working on and snapped, leaving him in pitch darkness with no comms, heat, light, or air. He was left about 50m away from the structure and had to basically _guess_ which direction the structure was in. Luckily he found it, climbed on top of it and just laid down waiting for either rescue or death.
4:00 in, Gus, what you’re describing is “saturation” diving. That’s a very tiny community within the already very small community of commercial diving. The majority of commercial diving is done on SCUBA (aka, occupational scuba), and surface-supplied (via use of a top-side compressor and an umbilical) surface supplied divers are typically broken down into “restricted” and “unrestricted” air divers. These divers perform work underwater on air supplied via umbilical from the surface. That is the majority of commercial diving.
I really enjoyed this video guys. Especially the animated videos that you included to help us understand the mechanics of what was happening behind commercial diving. Those were awesome Gus, thank you! I'm still pretty new to the channel and am enjoying catching up on all of your current and older videos 🙏😊
That video has so much wrong with it, it's unwatchable. Sorry you guys had to sit through that. I'm familiar with saturation diving and DSVs, worked in the offshore oil industry with a specialty in dynamic positioning (the system the Topaz used to stay in position over the dive site), and have colleagues directly involved in the investigation of the this incident, and this dude's video is trash all the way down. The movie/doc on Netflix was fun to watch tho!
Yes, I agree. It would have been much nicer to watch reactions to the actual documentary on Netflix. Why this video was chosen to react too... it was painful getting through it to get to Gus and Woody's commentary.
Plus he's breathing a mixed gas with high percentage of pure oxygen so his muscles and entire body were highly saturated with oxygen. Like when David Blaine held his breath for nearly 20 minutes, he saturated his body by breathing pure oxygen before he began. Also, it actually took more like 40 minutes to retrieve this man. Like 41 or 42 minutes.
Lmao at snorkeling commercial divers! Yep, that works... you gotta have that snorkel when 300ft underwater. I love Chris's story, its such an amazing story of survival. I got really interested in commercial diving, which is actually pretty safe (very few deaths since it began- one lost dive bell and a pressure accident because one man didn't follow protocol and opened a hatch at the wrong time). All that goes into it is amazing. Chris came close to being a sat diver death, but it def had to do with the temp. It makes me think of Ewa Wiśnierska who was a german paraglider that got sucked up into a storm and shot up to 33,000 ft above the earth for 45mins. She was without oxygen and frozen at the same altitude of a commercial jet (no oxygen up that high) She survived though, and even got released from the hospital after 24hrs. Chris and Ewa were in totally opposite directions, one way up in the air and the other at depth, but it goes to show how resilient our bodies can be. Its almost like suspended animation. From a scientific perspective I think they should study more into what allows people to survive these extreme circumstances. We know its based on the temp, but no oxygen/freezing environment, there has to be so much we can learn from their experiences.
I watched this doc a few days ago and the whole situation was crazy unlikely. Gus talks about them having a backup GPS system in future and...they did. They had their primary dynamic position system go down, but also their backup and their master backup system go down too. Everything that could have gone wrong went wrong really. It's a miracle he was alright. I think at that point you'd be fine going back down on the job because the chance of the situation happening twice to the same person would be astronomically slim.
With all the different risks these guys take, the thing that would be hardest for me is the claustrophobia inside that pressurized living chamber! Spending weeks trapped inside that thing with literally no way out. Wow respect to these guys !
Btw, this video does a hideous job explaining the story. If I hadn’t seen the actual documentary or have had “Dive Talk”, explain what was happening, I would have been completely confused. These click bait style quick doc’s, are like the fast food of the internet! Garbage 🗑
You would really need the people in those pressurized chamber to be easygoing, interesting, decent people.
I think the paychecks help
I’m also not a doctor but I watch and read a lot of medical dramas and a recurring thing I’ve heard is “you’re not dead until youre warm and dead” So someone that cold they would always continue to work on assuming that their systems have slowed like you guys were saying.
We also lower the temperature of heart surgery patients for this very reason.
I've been waiting for this video for months and you did not disappoint. Great reactions, more learning and a tremendous focus on how to learn from this to make commercial and all diving safer. Extra marks for the old school Doom graphics .... :D
Medical student here. Woody hit the nail on the head with the science behind the slowed metabolism from being cold. Worked on an ambulance and I’ve seen this before when someone overdosed on heroin and her friend put her on ice and saved her life. She was so cold it slowed down the metabolism of the drugs in her system. Great video and keep it up guys!
Yep it's why we bring a patient's temp down during heart surgery
Would 100% watch a 3-hour reaction from you guys
Thanks for checking this out guys. I literally requested this last week lol. Glad others had suggested it to. Looking forward to listening to your thoughts!
Hope you enjoyed it!
Your reactions are so genuine and so great. There is no ego involved in ANY of your videos. It’s super inspiring, guys. Thanks for the awesome content.
Gus, your interjections are appreciated. Your show reminds me a lot of a podcast called “Black Box Down” where 2 dudes talk about plane crashes and then breakdown the subsequent investigation of what went wrong or in some cases, right. Keep up the great content, i don’t dive but i am certainly along for the ride.
Oooh is this pod available on YT or is it like a Spotify exclusive or anything?
@@emily.g.929 i think it’s on most podcast platforms. Listen to “falling 10,000 feet out of the sky”. All episodes are good but that is a great starting points. And that’s not the plane that fell, that’s the lady.
“Start loading the hallucinations”, another example of proof that we are living in the Matrix.
That's why doctors say (in cases where people are hypothermic) their not dead, until their warm and dead.
I have a newfound obsession with diving. I started watching caving but I’m a little to big for that. Now after watching a bunch of your videos and others I’m thinking of getting into diving
I agree there are so many clips of images that are not related to the key subject. I see this also in many You Tube videos related to aircraft incidents etc.
I used to work as a Sat System operator back in the 80s for a salvage company on two DSVs before I moved to the Middle East.
The Sat Systems that we used were not as fancy as per your video that you showed. Communications with the divers inside was also not too easy either especially deciphering Heliox voices with some UK regional accents e.g. Scousers from Liverpool.
The use of a rebreather as a bail out tank is a great idea, our divers used 15L steel tanks at 150 bar! with 16% heliox.
Couple of points to clarify.
1. When blowing divers down to 100+m in the chamber only takes minutes not hours.
2. The divers use hot water suits, not dry suits, and they are awesome, especially when the water temp is 4C. We used them when doing air dives to check the side thrusters of the DSV every time we had to go to port to gas up.
3. The hyperbaric lifeboat is a nightmare to launch, I personally am very glad we never had to use it as I don't think it would have been very successful. There was a diving barge that sank in the Persian Gulf a few years back with divers in sat, and I believe they went down with the barge and did not manage to escape!
Enjoy your videos guys, dive safe.
You guys did a great job with this presentation.
The original event with the Topaz was a beyond incredible experience that showed just what high level skill, training, and maintaining composure (aka not panicking) might accomplish.
These guys use hot water suits.
At high heliox mix, body temperature loss in cold water can easily be 35 times normal, dry conditions.
The more that sites like yours can highlight the strengths and shortfalls of diving related events, everyone can benefit.
When I dove in the North Sea in the Wild West days of the '70s, the safety protocols were minimal and a heavy price was paid in divers lives.
Keep up your great work.
Please react to Abyss! It’s one of my favorite movies. Very silly, I’d love to hear Woody’s thoughts on the aliens 👽 (extended version)
Not to mention the scene where the female main character is rescued by getting dragged through ice cold water and then resuscitated aboard the dive bell
I want you guys to react to the 5 seconds in squid games where the cop apparently knows how to use diving equipment and then dives through a cave to get out! It doesn’t show anything of him diving, but the whole time I was screaming “OVERHEAD ENVIRONMENT WE NEED GUS AND WOODY!!!” Also, “overhead environment” has become my catch phrase for dive talk so thank you for that and for all these fun, interesting, and educational videos!
It does show him diving though for maybe 3 seconds and he has no fins but a small DPV. I also got pissed seeing his SPG and octo dragging.
Jesus, if you had people trying to murder you - you might just have a go and do the dive despite not being cave trained.
Also it's a TV show about human murder for sport, maybe suspend your disbelief
@@zm5668 ok zm lmfaooo
@@zm5668 if your objective is gonna be getting people to stop critiquing TV shows, you’re in for one hell of an uphill battle 😂
I live in a country where is lakes frozen winter times. I know couple people whose brains stayed without any harms and when he dropped to under ice, I don´t remember how long it took time to get one of them away from there. He was not on this planet anymore. But when ambulance finally came, they first said he is dead and they listen his heart long time, there was a very slow weak pulse. After when he was warmth carefully and slowly in hospital and of course they support his breath, he came back and and he lives still normal life. Doctor said that could saved his brains.
Woody wanting to experience everything is my new life motto 👌👽. Thanks guys, loved the Gus interruptions too, so much to learn in one video.
Man gus was struggling to explain physics but you guys kill it explaining diving lol
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When a family member of mine was a toddler he, his mom and dad, were in a car accident. At first, emergency thought they had all passed. So they started laying them in the snow outside of the vehicle. He was alive and the cold kept him alive is what our family was told .
Have you guys thought about reacting to the Byford Dolphin diving bell accident? It's horrifying, but wasn't sure if it was something you'd have commentary for.
We have not reacted to that
It's not as miraculous, but I threw a broken flashlight (not even waterproof) off my porch and into the river about 100ft below the cliff I live on and it suddenly started working again. It's been like 5ft underwater for a couple hours now and it's still going strong.
(Edit: That took an unexpected turn. Some tweakers that stay under the trestle sometimes noticed the light in the water and made their way down to the river, which is dangerous even in the daylight... Then they noticed me watching from the rocks above and freaked out. To be fair that does sound like something from Deliverance, but their meth fueled paranoia probably made it even sketchier.
Oh and it's been about 4hrs now, the flashlight is still on.)
the need for saturation reminded me about learning about the construction of the Brooklyn Bridge (David McCullough's 1972 book The Great Bridge). No one knew anything about decompression sickness so when they were working on the caisson's (the bottom supports for the bridge). The workers would work under the high pressure and just come up and get the bends. The chief engineer Washingtion Roebling himself spent too much time under pressure and left him in a debilitating condition during the construction.
Wow this whole thing is just incredible, his god was with him that day. Great commentary as well, dont apologize for the lengh, a lot of us dont mind longer videos especially when theres a lot to be learned
In regards to the Dry suit, I've never seen one used offshore. Sat diving and surface supplied mix gas diving which are two methods mainly used in deep diving where the water is typically pretty cold. It's always been hot water suits which are wet suits with a built in valve connector that lets you pump hot water in and also discharge out of the suit if it gets to hot. It connects to a spider as we call it inside the suit which runs to your hands, feet, torso and back.
Gus' comment on surviving low PO exposure reminded me of an almost dive accident that happened in Tulum, Mexico couple of decades ago. Basically two divers ( I don't know about their certification but I believe they were certified cavers) somehow got in to a situation where they were low on air and were exiting the cave in an out of air situation. One diver was swimming just a little ahead of the other and managed to get out of the cave. He was extremely upset but knew he had to change tanks and go back for his buddy, whom he knew is probably out of air and drowned.
After quickly switching over to fresh tanks, he started back in to the cave. The way it was explained was that as he swam along the cave line, he saw a body vertical (head up) at the ceiling but not moving. He was essentially sobbing to himself as he swam quickly toward his dive buddy. Apparently he was already thinking in his head that he has to drag his buddy out of the cave and then perform CPR as quickly as possible. However, as he swam under the body, his air bubble hit the air chamber that his buddy's head was in. The fresh supply of air (from the buddy who just entered the cave) was just enough fresh air to "wake" the diver who ran out of air, found the air pocket/chamber and was breathing the air until he blacked out.
They exited the cave together, sharing air from the fresh tanks that the rescuing diver. So yeah, low PO2 and CO2 will black you out but if you had just tipped the scale, just a little fresh supply of air would bring you back, apparently. I wouldn't want to test that though.
I’m pretty sure Gus and Woody covered that one or talked to someone who explained it.
Damn, just reading about that in your comment, Henry Wang, had my heart rate up. That also sounds like a freakin amazing story!
Have the diving bells ever failed and lost compression? If so what happened to divers? Did they have a back up area or is that just game over? I work in maintenance and My mind always goes to, if it’s possible it’ll eventually happen
Yeah maybe the divers out of the bell can survive and have another bell dropped to them but if they are in the bell no. They basically are dead instantly. If you've never heard of the byford dolphin incident it explains what happens when a particular accident happens on diving bells.
I appreciate the thorough explanation Gus gave. Also Gus shirt is sick, love woody’s skully hat too.
Excellent video. You guys interrupting the video is why we watch your channel. Well at least for myself. I appreciate you taking the time to give us your expert opinion. I am not a diver. Prior to your videos I had zero knowledge. I'm considering taking it up. I've learned so much from the both of you. The humor is a tremendous draw also. Thank you so much
I think Mr. Ballen did a video on this awhile back, was much better then the one you guys seemed to have found.
maybe if you count "narrated in an exaggerated manner" as better yes but no this video is better in every way that matters to the creators and most of the fans of the page imho. More informational, unexaggerated , told from a more neutral standpoint, well explained, i could go on.
I think they meant it was better than the one guy used as reference? I'm not sure though
@@AndrewsArachnids to elaborate I thought it explained more about the situation going on. Yes it was more dramatized but it also had a lot more detail.
@@Grimsace details which may or may not have been made up out of nowhere by Jon lol.
These ships use what's called dynamic positioning systems it's a computer based system that uses gps, gyros and wind instruments to calculate forces acting on the vessel. The system then calculates the amount of thrust needed to counter the forces acting against the vessel. These systems in an operation like this are triple redundant and certified by ABS. No single point of failure can cause the system to lose position so this vessel must have experienced a major series of failures. After an incident like this their would be a major investigation by both coast guard and ABS and the vessel would have to be recertified before it could return to operation.
Just watched the documentary. They did a really great job putting it all together. Tear jerker for me.
@ 38:04 Woody's facial expression (very still) was telling. I'm his age and even a peaceful passing is less appealing to us. We aren't done yet! I was in a coma 10 years ago (tackled by a deer at 40MPH on motorcycle) for 3 days, and they didn't think I was coming back. I have another motorcycle...
In saturation diving, they also need heated water coolant. Breathable air is not enough to survive out there.
For the GPS, they had 2 Backup GPS but the 3 GPS were shutdown for error.
Even if you could bailout to a rebreather at those depths with no hot water to keep you warm you're lucky to last 10-15 minutes before you become hypothermic and become unconscious
Comparing SCUBA or even cave diving to SAT diving is like comparing piloting a 737 to being an astronaut. Sat diviers are aquanauts. Just like ASTROnauts can't walk out anytime SAT divers are in area of our planet we know less about that we do space.
watched the documentary and it was quite unbelievable he survived, thanks for the video guys 👍
First, in love with Woodys hat
Secondly, I had no idea they made a whole thing about this incident, I will need to check out Last Breath.
It was so cool watching the tour with Gus, they areas are much more comfortable than I had imagined.
Great video
It's sad how the video you watched did no justice to the situation at all. They didn't even mention, that the reason the vessel drifted was that not just the navigation going off, but the backup was off too for some very weird and completely unexpected reason.
Also, as far as I remember about the documentary, they needed more than one person for the manual navigation until they got the DP back on. The whole thing was just a chain of very unfortunate things followed by a bunch of extremely lucky things. First the horrible wind, than the metal his umbilical got stuck on should not have been there, the two DP systems should not have both gone off...but then again, by instinct he chose the right path to the structure in pitch black, the crew was able to take hold of the ship again, they found him because he was able to think straight about going back to the structure, and he suffered no damage. It's such an incredible story really.
Great reaction with amazing input from you guys, as always :)
I’m so glad you guys chose to react to this. I started the doc a few weeks ago and immediately nope’d out because I didn’t know how it ended and thought it was a glorified snuff film and couldn’t handle the thought of a full documentary about such a terrifying death. Thanks for spoiling it. It was way better watching it knowing that he lived. Much gratitude. Glad I didn’t miss out on an fascinating doc with a happy ending.
All 5 computers in charge of the DP - GPS failed that day that's what caused the issue. Just really really bad luck. I've never heard of a master failing, then the secondary failing, then all 3 tertiary systems failing.
I recall they also had a secondary computer failure on the surface and actually had to shut down their engines at sea and hard reset. Apparently, Chris I believe his name was, fell off the structure when his umbilical snapped and managed to find his way back to it. Mr. Ballen is where I heard some of that info not sure how accurate i am but it’s an amazing story.
Now I’m addicted to your show guys. That wasn’t the deal.
I can honestly say that Cave Diving deserve way more respect. I done many commercial deep dives but I take my hat off for certified gave divers!
These commercial divers are almost like astronauts on a space station.
19:30 - 25:30 - On top of the things you guys mentioned as to why potentially he survived that long on a 10min tank, I suspect what also helped is that he conserved oxygen, albeit it sounds like he didn't do it consciously. He said he didn't panic or thrash around, he kind of just accepted his fate. Not moving his muscles means he was using less oxygen. The 10mins estimate in the backup tank probably is estimated for the oxygen consumption during swimming, so by laying down, calm and relaxed, that oxygen can last him for longer.
They also reckon his brain also used 02 from his body tissue and organs as they would of been saturated in air mix that is in the dive bell.
And it was sooo cold. This helps too
The plasticity of the brain had to do in him not getting brain damage!
I think you guys are spot on in your theory why he survived. It was definitely the cold temperature. His body went in to almost suspended animation where all biological functions are slowed or stopped, except for the most important organ, the brain. There is a case where Anna Elisabeth Johansson Bågenholm, a Swedish radiologist from Vänersborg survived after a skiing accident in 1999. She was trapped under a layer of ice for 80 minutes in freezing water and survived. Utterly amazing!
Sorry but this video youre reacting to makes me mad. This unnecessary cutting every two seconds with some stupid clips that don’t even relate to what he’s talking about is so irritating. Couldn’t watch this reaction more than a minute even tho I would have loved to. Shame…
Mr Ballen did a good episode about this one....crazy story, and AFAIC, these saturation divers have massive balls of steel.
Yes-I dated one years ago. He started out scuba diving north into enemy North Vietnam up the zero visibility rivers for reconnaissance missions during the latter part of the Vietnam war. Three tours. He then went on to become a commercial saturation diver. He was pretty darn tough!
Gus that’s what you get for using a windows based machine to control the ship position. I’m sure you would agree with that statement.
This documentary was amazing. Great appreciation for these saturation divers.
That's the most plush saturation chamber I've ever seen!! most look like they are just one tube with the racks next to the toilet/showers and thats pretty much it lol
Woody is the Chris Collinsworth of the diving world....great commentary, accurate, insightful, and he sounds exactly like him.
“Here’s a guy…”
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I never thought of that before but you are kinda right!
I think you guys have convinced me to go get certified in diving and cave diving to actually go do it. Before I watched you guys I was watching @MrBallen videos and I came across his diving stories. Recently found y'all and man, from the information and the look in your eyes when y'all talk about wanting to go places like little river, seeing all the cave on the videos, I want to go there too one day hopefully. It sounds really dangerous but really fun. I hope to get over the subtle fear of the ocean and stop thinking aliens live down there and giant sea creatures lol but I think I've found a reason to keep going.
I really appreciate how much time and effort Gus puts into these videos!!!
The pressure and freezing Temps put him in a natural state of what dr hassam called emergency preparation resuscitation
dave (diver 1) made me so mad because of how selfish he was acting, but that documentary was exceptional. i watched it before watching this video! i got really emotional and touched by chris's story. love your channel btw! i am binging a lot while learning so much although i am not a diver or have any interest in it, but i love your videos. you guys are super funny. cheers!
Me too...but, I think he played it up a little...on the actual footage from 'the bell' after the rescue, he seems giddy...all smiles and holding his hand
Embedded reaction is a good editing choice
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"You're not dead until you're warm and dead".
A great video! One constructive criticism. I feel like a couple of parts released over a couple days / weeks reacting to the original would of been better, as the video you used detracts from this amazing incident.
The problem with reacting to a documentary like that is copyright...even though reaction videos are supposed to be protected it doesn't matter, we get flagged anyway. So we try to cover these topics without risking doing all the work for nothing...imagine recording, editing, and producing 3 or 4 long videos and then have them all flagged or taken down for copyright violations? Then no one really learns at that point.
@@DIVETALK yeah that's fair enough, it shame really. But great work guys keep it up
Yeah, gotta say the most annoying thing with some content creators that they put footage that doesn't relate to thing they are talking about in the background. It's frankly deceptive.
Always love the analysis. I think MrBallen also told the story, this is great for adding a diver analysis. Didnt realize it was on netflix.
I love woodys smile lol he’s always smiling
What I find very impressive both physically and mentally is that he was back at work 3 weeks later. The North Sea divers is a special kind of breed.
When it comes to the temperature at the bottom of the sea: I learned once that a rule of thumb is that the temperature at the bottom of the ocean is ca. 4°C (39.0°F) because that's when salt water is at its highest density. The North Sea is a bit special because of the Gulf Stream.
The netflix documentary was extremely well done, I was glued the entire time. The youtube upload is meh not even worth talking about. Both my PADI OW and AOW instructors were retired saturation divers in the oil & gas industry and had some amazing stories. One of them told me he decided to quit early and go into the recreational dive business because he was concerned of what sat diving might do to his body long term. Joint pain and loss of bone density was a big concern amongst sat divers and he didnt want that to happen to him.
After watching the documentary I can visualize better the work they used to do.
Saturation diving is such important work but so extremely dangerous and riddled with death potential if they're not paying attention.
I'm curious to know if there are female saturation divers and how they cope with the usual stuff that comes with being female; pregnancy, menstration cycles, menopause, etc.
All in all, great video guys! And yes, Gus the animation was totally worth it :-) Strive on and dive on 🤗.
Thank you! I'm not sure about female saturation divers.
I can’t imagine it would be safe for the pregnancy to do that. And normal lady things well birth control and medication to minimize menopause symptoms.
There are female sat divers, I believe.. but not very many
The actual documentary is very well made and amazing and everyone should watch it it's an incredible story but the actual documentary is awesome this video y'all are reacting to here at the beginning that's like someone else making a video trying to describe the Real documentary I'm sure everyone knows this already but that's just the first thing I thought of
This is mega, quality as always, keep them coming. Being from Scotland 500 yards from the North Sea, hits a little different.
Thank you for tuning in.
Glad I have you 2 to explain it all as i didn’t know what was going on.
Could ya'll do a video on old time diving gear and how it used to be used, also what the dangers were. I always see those cool full metal masks like the one the guy showed a picture of when first talking about the dive bell and never know what to call them or what the point of them were.
@14:54 or so, what is the “Blue Screen of Death”? Is it just a screen that shows their vitals or something? Again, I know nothing about diving, but am just fascinated by the whole scenario and diving in general.
I never knew you guys were in the same room until I saw you hand him the keyboard... lol
I love the education you impart 😊 thanks for this
Just finished watching. Great video as always. Did you guys receive any requests to react to 'Pressure'? I watched it on amazon prime video shortly after finishing The Last Breath.
I recall they had video of the driver saying after some time getting control of the vessel & getting it turned around heading back to the location w the help of the rover & the system cane back on, they were able to go right to where he was & sent diver back for recovery.
And he didn’t give mouth to mouth!!! He somehow got his oxygen to the helmet (?) so he started gaining consciousness from oxygen vs the co2 which became reduced w breathing. His calm state reserved oxygen & time to maintain life down to the second of death when his buddy got to him. Idk how the equipment works but when he gave him o2 Im thinking it became pressured to force it into his lungs. Bcuz w out breathing no bubbles to allow co2 to escape the suit adding the o2 the only place it could go was into his lungs which made him awake w that big gasp the buddy described.
I think what helped also, was how he thought about those family members & the love he had for them. Wherever there is love there is life. Love is the Light if God. The Lamp of God led him back to the path he was on. Love is as powerful if not more, than oxygen itself. Love is not possible w out God.
Great story, btw! 👍🙄😁❕