"Bad for Religion": Gay Baptist Minister with Interfaith Alliance on SCOTUS LGBTQ Rights Ruling
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2023
- The Supreme Court has ruled 6 to 3 along ideological lines in favor of a Christian Colorado web designer who refused to create websites for same-sex couples even though the state bans such discrimination. "We're entering into a terrible moment where a Pandora's box has been opened," says president and CEO of Interfaith Alliance Paul Brandeis Raushenbush, who warns "permission has been granted to use religion as a way to discriminate against your fellow people." Raushenbush discusses the use of Christianity to advance discrimination, the importance of the Respect for Marriage Act, and what this decision could mean for other groups. "It's just bad for religion, it's bad for freedom, and it's bad for America," he says.
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Someone needs to sue Lori Smith. I thought “bearing false witness” was a sin. Some Christian! 🙄
See too many in the church representing and they are not true to the book they carry
There has to be something we can do about this because allowing a ruling to stand that was based on false information is horrendous. This wasn’t even hypothetical, which also shouldn’t be allowed.
well said, and yes it does in fact set a bad precedent
It's a private enterprise, they can choose who to do business with. You people were all about such laws when it came to vaccines but now that it's about something you support you suddenly don't believe in private business?
They started by lying (like any religion always does) "slightly" about the facts of the case in the "coach prays publicly inviting his players and others during beginning/middle of public school games in the middle of field" saying he was just doing it out in the parking lot by himself with no call-out.
@@keksterbojester818 If it WERE a private enterprise, but it is not. It is a public enterprise owned privately and accepting "socialist" bankruptcy and "socialist" patent/copy-right laws. Businesses and the rich lie too much, just like religion. There is no constitutional protection against decreased government funding if you refuse vaccines. So stop lying to yourself and others, like religion does. As one example of YOUR point, Oral Robets school is fully private religious school and is allowed to discriminate ON ANY issue. They receive no government funding or bankruptcy "government insurance," or patent/copy-right protections. The hypothetical/made-up-lie website businesses that the corrupted SCOTUS ruled on is in no way as honest as Oral Roberts school.
@@letsomethingshine what?
Many people make the same mistake, especially in the US. Freedom of religion is the right to practice your beliefs as you prefer and inside some given limits, not to dictate to others how they should live their lives.
But isn't telling someone they have to do business in a way that violates their values, telling them "how to live their lives"? And it especially seems to be egregious to require it of private businesses. Look, as a vegetarian (and in many other regards), I would not want to be required by the government to do business with meatpackers, hunters, or ranchers.
@@C.E.V.One of the fundamental principles of Western democracies is the protection of equal rights for all citizens, including their sexual orientation. Discrimination is considered unjust and incompatible with the principles of equality and human dignity. By enforcing anti-discrimination laws in businesses, we ensure that everyone has an equal opportunity to participate in the economic and social fabric of society.
Separation of state and religion is a crucial aspect of Western culture, designed to protect the freedom of individuals to practice their religion without interference from the government. However, this separation does not extend to granting businesses the right to impose their religious beliefs on others. Allowing businesses to discriminate against certain customers based on their beliefs would be a violation of the religious neutrality in the public sphere.
Allowing businesses to discriminate based on personal beliefs would create a fragmented society, fostering division and animosity. A cohesive society requires a level playing field, where businesses provide goods and services to all customers without discrimination. Upholding secular laws in business interactions helps maintain social harmony by ensuring fair and equal treatment for everyone..
Granting businesses the right to discriminate based on personal beliefs could set a dangerous precedent. If we allow businesses to deny services to certain groups based on their beliefs, it opens the door for discrimination against other groups based on religion, race, or any other characteristic. This undermines the core values of a diverse and inclusive society and can lead to marginalization and prejudice.
In a pluralistic society, there are often conflicts between different rights and interests. While individuals have the right to their religious beliefs, those beliefs should not infringe upon the rights and dignity of others. In cases where there is a conflict, the state must strike a balance by protecting the rights and interests of all parties involved. In the context of business, this means ensuring that no customer faces discrimination or unequal treatment.
@@lolitaras22 Something to think about.
Although the "discrimination and unequal treatment" is merely about choosing who to do business with, and does not allow a business to set different prices for different people, for example.
There must be something that matters so much to you that being forced to act against it would violate your beliefs. The climate crisis, and having to do extensive business with fossil fuel companies? Having to do business in the mass production and sale of MAGA hats? I don't know what your values are, but just think how sickened you would feel if you were required by the government to take on and complete the job. That seems wholly wrong too. Is there no middle ground, where all parties are respected?
@@C.E.V.
I think you may have gotten a little bit carried away here. Discrimination in this context is based on protected classes and immutable characteristics, like sexual orientation, religion, race, etc. Your hypothetical about being forced to do business with fossil fuel companies or MAGA hat manufacturers just doesn't apply at all since those aren't immutable characteristics nor are they protected classes.
Would you make the same argument in defense of this ruling if instead of a gay couple getting married, it was an interracial couple, or a Jewish couple? Certainly it's possible that this business owner might feel just as strongly against doing work for a Jewish couple's wedding as she does against a gay couple's wedding? Both are discrimination and both are in violation of the principles of our long-standing public accommodations laws.
@@warriorwaitress7690 So the Supreme Court narrowed it to classic and literal discrimination. Ok. That was not made clear to me in this video or anything else I came across.
I guess places could refuse to do business with whites then, and Christians, and heterosexuals under their ruling?
I’m sorry but I hope this women can’t never go out in public ever again
Or at least have any of her enterprises boycotted.
Just because it is law doesn't make it morally right. spot on.
Morals are set individually.
Exactly! Slavery and segregation was a law before and people against it because it was morally wrong.
@@Milton754 And morals change. Slavery and segregation was a law before and people against it because it was morally wrong.
Are we morally obligated to follow immoral laws?
Cuz maybe this just brings us back to survival of the fittest.
I'm okay with bombing our problems away. Anyone else?
@@yawningpheonix
We're already at survival of the fittest, but you're fully aware of what that means?
Right?
We will all stand before the judgement seat of Christ to give an account for what we did with our life,whether good or bad!God have mercy on their souls😢
That’s BS you know. Please educate on the actual history of religion.
"If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism, they will abandon democracy"
~David Frum
Oh, well, if David said it. It must be true 100% of the time
@@tobereed Obviously it’s true ENOUGH to trigger YOU into defensively making fun of him for saying it.
Telling, isn’t it?
If it were patently false, why even reply? Of course there’s also the possibility that it HIT A NERVE, and THAT is why you felt the need to chime in...
Care to dig down on that? If not, why not? SCARED I’ll get to the truth within YOU?? Hahahaha!
@@hadara69 Does David have any more intellectual nuggets to live by?
@@tobereed Do trolls tend to ask even more trolly questions like you just did, or do they tend to engage by replying and standing their ground?
See what I did there?
How’s that little ‘nugget’ grab you?
@hadara69 oh, I thought you said I was the triggered one
Politician's and the people need to keep their personal and religious beliefs to themselves; and stop using religion for an excuse to dismantle the federal and state constitutions.
The foundation of the existence of man was created with principles , if they don't wish to bring religion in it every court up and down the land need to abolish the motto that judges sit under. 'In God we trust "can't trust in God then make people swear on bible,in courts and in office knowing you represent falsely
Agreed. However don’t for a minute believe this is a religious movement. It’s a cult using religion as a cover.
She committed purgery proving she doesn't have a christian belief since one of the 10 commandments is "( though shalt not bare false witness against thy neighbor
This is absolutely disgusting and so disappointing...America is walking back so many years of progress and inclusion 😢
Or going back to the right direction, religious freedom is a constitutional right, sexual preferences is not.
@@proudamerican4345Constitution is outdated. We're going backwards
These six SC justices had their walking papers from Trump years ago. We just didn’t see it coming and we got blindsided by it. They work for Trump, not us.
@@DC-zx5mt If it has not been updated then it's not outdated. Sexual preferences is not a right, if anything marriage should be up to the churches not the government "at all". If a baptist church wasn't to marry gay people, or Jewish or church of non religious IDK then that's fine. But the government should stay out of marriage, because now you can put a gun to someone's head and force them to make you a cake and override their religious freedoms.
Go to another cake shop! Welcome to capitalism if one person will not make you a cake another one will. I bet some gay person would love to open a cake shop just for gay people. That's capitalism
@@proudamerican4345 ill take my religious freedoms over some individuals sexuality trumping my constitutional rights. 1000's of secular business and they choose the christian one, seems like they targeted the Christian business on purpose.
Nobody should be forced to do work that is opposed to their religious and moral values. People have the right to NOT work with people who are in VILE MORTAL SIN.
So you will not work with people who eat shellfish or wear clothing of different fabrics either?
@@jennifersilver3023 🤫🤔
@@josephk4310if I remember correctly, the bible says you can’t do that. So answer the question
@@jennifersilver3023 I like shellfish, especially shrimp, conch, lobster.... It's approved for Orthodox Christians to eat. We fast certain times of the year. Stop uttering your ignorant statements. We are not Kosher.
@@josephk4310 More like you gave yourselves special permission just like you cherry pick the bible to suit your own special needs. Stop showing your own ignorance by believing in something for which there is absolutely no evidence.
The difference is this: A person is born with black skin. Called a black person. A person is born a Latino. A Jew or Greek or whatever the nationality may be, or ethnic group he or she may be from but people do make a choice to practice being gay or homosexual. The same with trans people. They are born one way and decide they want to be something else. That is really it. The fact that they have to change what they are through operations and pills proves that they choose to be other. That is their choice but trying to force us who know better to act as if what their choice is is right for the continuance of life is not going to happen. They should be able to live their lives without fear of us harming them or treating them unfairly but asking us to accept they ways as normal when it certainly is not, is asking to much.
How does this square with the Civil Rights Act does this conflict with that law?
We lived in TX which is Southern Baptist... you see where my problem was... the Universal Unitarian Fellowship found me through my letters to the editor. I found a Democratic society to save my sanity! As the gun violence grew to frightening proportions and Americans voted in the orange idiot I decided that my husband and I, after serving our country USMC, in the '70's and the '60's, we no longer recognized our America. We moved to Costa Rica to retire. But we still vote in the federal elections through the absentee ballots and obviously we vote Democrat bc we believe in Empathy.
A dier sensibilities emergency! Not young American people dying by the hundreds daily because they can't afford insulin, right?
"Imagine."
Must be doing well if she can afford to turn away business and vilify her own reputation.
I'm heterosexual but, am aware that homosexuality is a common trait in humans as well as others species. People who dispute that are just plain ignorant of facts. Many who Bible pound, haven't had a class in biology or studied the history of the subject. In the early 1900s the wording was changed in the Bible to make the subject practice a sin. The original Greek meaning described rape as sin, not homosexuality. I guess God changed his mind 1900 years after the Bible was written or some committee changed it. Since God doesn't actually write, it most certainly was the latter.
Religion, will mess you up. It will have you hating people because of their lifestyle. The bible is suppose to teach love. I just don't understand those people. The are all going to heaven, but they are no earthly good.
The Christian Bible condemns homosexuality as an immoral and unnatural sin. Leviticus 18:22 identifies homosexual sex as an abomination, a detestable sin. Romans 1:26-27 declares homosexual desires and actions to be “shameful” and “unnatural.” First Corinthians 6:9 states that homosexuals are “wrongdoers” who will not inherit the kingdom of God. Since homosexuality is condemned in the Bible, it follows that homosexuals marrying is not God’s will and would be, in fact, sinful.
@@rramales1 The original Greek translation did not. It was changed into Latin then English. The English decided that homosexuality was a sin in the early 1900s. God had nothing to do with it. Study the original scripture.
What did it mean in the original Hebrew/Koine Greek exactly? Regardless, it’s still just shit people made up so it doesn’t really matter, but to people who do think it’s God’s words it’s probably be helpful to show them how the Old and New Testament books text originated, with Koine Greek for the 4 gospels (Mark, John, Luke,
Matthew) written 30-100 years after Jesus’ death (likely no earlier than 60-70 years after Jesus died which then implies that it wasn’t written by the actual original witnesses but rather through telephone game stories which explain the disparities psrtocudrly between John and the rest but also Mark and Luke and Matthew and even the more overlapping but still incongruent to some degree and self-contradicting Luke and Matthew, but it’s unclear, with Mark written first) and that the 4 gospels to varying degrees don’t accord with one another and to some degree contradict one another which I would think would create a serious problem for anyone with an absolute/literal interpretation of the Bible that so many in the US seem to profess having despite not knowing Jack shit about the Bible other than a few quotes their likely stupid pastor and online life has led them to, not that you can’t find some good secular value in some of it like the Sermon on the Mount or bits from Proverbs/Ecclesiastes, and some ridiculous shit like the seemingly last second appendage/addition of the bizarre schizophrenic/acid trip like Revelations after realizing it didn’t quite have enough of the fear factor any good religious text needs to sink its hooks in and allow for the exercise control over its herds.
@@placebojesus5652 The original meaning of the terms used for rape can't be found anywhere else and the exact meaning is conjecture. However, in the early Hebrew culture, the act of raping other men was viewed as inhospitable. Women were viewed as property and not subject to the same laws as men. It was also sinful to trim ones beard to a point, wear clothing made from more than one type of cloth and plant more than one variety of crop on the same land. You've done some extensive homework. The Bible will be better understood for what it is if you study the origins and canonization of it and the authenticity of its authors.
And everyone thought I was crazy when I said they are getting rid of our Civil Rights .
Court case-names contain "v." (versus) because cases are real-life disputes between two actual, legitimate parties. This was a phantom, manufactured thing. Not even a real dispute
Down with the Values of Sodom and Gomorrah !!!
I used to teach adult Sunday school on church history. I mentioned that the church in the Middle Ages burned homosexuals. One of my students said “they had the right idea “. Hard to believe that a Christian could harbor such views.
That's why i am
AGNOSTIC.
religion is poison and a deadly virus.
church and state were always meant to be separate .
Lmao well at least he told the truth 🤣
well im frustration on ( cousin somewhat as a general 🇺🇸 culture issue as it's not nice to me or my wife, and no we met like anybody else dating as are family's don't talk pre-marriage aka kinda helped fixing the extended family relationships-ect ) marriage and F+F+M-bisexual/🏳🌈 marriages ( and born intersexual 🏳🌈 was ok aka not a sin, but modern-2023 lds-slc has it as a big sin just for being born differently as the biblical only lists male-gay a pedo/predatory-sex and adultery as a big-sin-dating-wise for prospective but killing gay's swinging/closed-married wasn't ever okay as "love they neighbor" and pray for there repentance-ect ) and the government bad law's/case-law's and the main SLC LDS church as other than being anti-black/separate but equality it was a vary progressive culture/church, and now with the 1970's inclusions on race's add back in LGBTQ 🏳🌈and im 👍as Christ/god-like to me there's always room for his children in some loophole.... not hate
There should be a warning first
Yes…the name is bigotry of the highest level!
It's a step forward for their own good , healthier life and self respect with a standard of civility, women are God's gift to men
Was that the god that tried to get his first human to go with animals first off, before cobbling together a female of his own species.
@07734 that fact is God told Noah to send Two Animals of his creation On to the Ark One Female and One Male , Why ? Trust me it has nothing to do with Love is Love
@@Phillip-id9rk No, not the ark fable. I was talking about Adam. _That_ god asked him to choose his mate from all the animals before he realized that humans were a separate species and had to assemble a female human. Not very clever. For a god.
@07734 Fable Narrative, God created Adam and took his Rib to create his mate /wife so this means we are descendent of Adam and Eve the first humans of creation 👏
@@Phillip-id9rk Ah, that’s the god. The one that encouraged Adam to choose a mate from the animals first.
This is wrong, and cannot be changed to make it acceptable to what suits a certain part of the populous.
All this over a "God" no one has EVER PROVED even exists at all. I thought that the separation of church and state was clear.
"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me."
-Martin Niemöller
Has this pastor READ the bible?!?
Saying that it's young people's "perception" that Christianity is antagonistic is the world's biggest blame shifting lie.
The only way out of this is to put the Catholic religion on trial. Jesus Christ said to love one another, even your enemies, as I have loved you. He also said to judge not. They’re not Christians are hypocrites using religion as a weapon. Not me, Christ called them hypocrites in Matthew chapter 6, verse 5-6. Anybody know a good lawyer?
Why do you single out Catholics?
No, they’re christian all right.
Christians are almost always bad people.
“Good” christians are the exception, not the rule.
When i was in business it was my right to serve whoever i wanted
So you didn’t serve blacks, Jews or left handed wiccans? F@$# your god as well :)
You can not call yourself a Christian if you practice a lifestyle the faith is against.
If people started going in Synagogues and demanding they allow statues of the Christ the same people criticizing Christians for their faith would be outraged if the same was done in Synagogues.
There is no such thing as a " gay" Baptist preacher.
Amen God bless your heart
Amen
Amen and amen
This line of reasoning is sickening starting @2:50. Racial phenotypes has nothing to do with the type of sexual activity people like.
I’ll be discriminating against anyone religious.
In my Store i won t serve perverts.
“Whenever governments adopt a moral tone - as opposed to an ethical one - you know something is wrong.”
― John Ralston Saul
There is no longer a separation of Church and State. Discrimination has once again become legalized with the SCOTUS. This is sad.
many in the usa who claim to be patriots , don't understand that the revolutions they celebrate of the 18th century were revolutions against oppression from monarchy nobility and church which was a key allie , a collaborator that had an essential role in a system of abusing the people. .
the so called religious persecuted who that claimed they left europe and due to abuse were thrown out of Europe as thay could not adapt to common shared civility and society or culture of the community. they were a disruptive menace to civility. and still are today. in fact they settled in the north east stealing land , killing and plundering indigenous peoples. thank you jesus for the food we are about to receive, free , stolen from others.
100% false, especially in the striking down of ACTUAL discrimination via affirmative action 😆
100% false, especially in the striking down of ACTUAL discrimination via affirmative action 😆
i have NEVER in my life voted for a republican, i do not see the problem with a business owner not wanting to do something against their personal beliefs. You don't want someone forcing their bible BS on you, right? I want the right to tell some bible thumper to "get lost" if they want me to somehow justify their loony toons beliefs, with my own business. as an atheist business owner, i don't want your cult sh!t in my business , GET OUT!
This was certainly a big damper on wanting anything to do with celebrating over the past few days. Idaho is the worst state for discrimination against LGBTQ community and now with this, not LGBTQ Person is safe!!! How many have to suffer for bigotry given power from the courts!!! so much for pursuit of happiness
Why can't Conservative Christian pursue happiness?
@@user-is5vw4jt6wNope
. . . it's done to Black people all the time . . . since the beginning . . .
Why not leaving the church? Outside the church everything is allowed.
@@janrc Outside the church everything is not allowed. Murder someone and see what happens.
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One day, when the rapture happens,
those that are not ready will be left behind for seven years of judgment
!
As a customer, I have a choice to avoid or boycott a business openly refusing to serve gay or. minority customers. These businesses will learn a hard lesson. Local networking will kill these businesses. Business owners will only do this if they think they will have something to gain from their actions. While a small percentage of potential customers are gay... Most Americans have gay friends or relatives... something these businesses haven't yet considered. Allys unite!
Stop forcing BOYS To hate theirs Manhood, and stop trying to erase the Woman 👠 and stop Persecuted The Woman, 👠 we are human beings and we have God-given Right Humanity
If you choose to live in sin don't try to take our right away to choose obey the word I'm sorry for whatever happened we all have been through and the devil is trying to destroy the world through homosexual enough
we don't serve anyone who is circumcised
a milestone in the growth of new fascism and antiliberalism in usa.
If I lived in that region I'll move away.
Anyone not in a Biblical marriage could mean I would think anyone in a couple not on their first marriage. As divorce of course was not allowed at the beginning of Christianity.
Why do you keep emphasising gay marriage when there’s lbtqia2+? What you want is sexuality/ies/gender marriages, which is the utter destruction of monogamy, the mother-father bloodline family and marriage itself.
If god didn't want gays to exist, he should not have created them as they are from birth. Same for evil. god, the know it all, past and future knew who satan would become, before he created him. I love my gay friends, nothing bad about them!
BTW It hurts me to see I was right that our civil rights are being striped from us . We saw it 23 years ago and no one cared . It's because of our interest in politics is not enough ,so we shrug our shoulders and say oh what can we do . To late now .
No one should be discriminated against in any country simply for being who they are.
The Christian Bible condemns homosexuality as an immoral and unnatural sin. Leviticus 18:22 identifies homosexual sex as an abomination, a detestable sin. Romans 1:26-27 declares homosexual desires and actions to be “shameful” and “unnatural.” First Corinthians 6:9 states that homosexuals are “wrongdoers” who will not inherit the kingdom of God. Since homosexuality is condemned in the Bible, it follows that homosexuals marrying is not God’s will and would be, in fact, sinful.
Well deez nutz condemn doez nutz n Datz mah religion so shutup
@@placebojesus5652 lmao...thx for the smile...I needed that.
@@rramales1 Blah, blah, blah. The year is 2023 not 23!
@@rramales1Then don't do gay things, simple. But you do not get to use your storybook to discriminate against other people. This country holds no one religion above the law.
Also, the bible has a story about how your god drown all the people, including innocent babies and children. The Bible is a terrible book, and not at all moral.
Why don't we approach this "issue" with some historical background. The most popular version of the Bible was written by a gay man who despised women - King James. Why doesn't the "left" use bolder rhetoric to tackle the "controversy" instead of symbolic lynchings of every day folks?
I'm all for most things that are bad for religion, but this is just silly.
It's not under attack it is the word of god
Bad for life, bad for love. Lies cant be the basis of anything important. It will corrupt and dement anything precious. Putrid people refrain and dont insist in using holy names to somber endeavours.
“The Conservatives on the court call themselves, ’Originalists’.
It’s sort of a judicial version of ‘Fundamentalism’...and with similar results.”
~Mrs. Betty Bowers (America’s Best Christian)
Fake Hate Fake Case
Ultimos tiempos! The last time...Maranatha!
Ridiculous
This in normal or this is abnormal , what diffrence between discrimination with to distinguish a bout the difference
Biblical marriage? You mean like polygamy? Still on the books.
We are tax paying citizens, and it is written in our founding documents as a nation to separate church from state. Enough is enough. It seems that religion is the real threat to human kind.
Name the documents. That concept doesn’t exist in either the constitution or the Declaration of Independence.
No, you can’t force anyone to work for you against their will bigot 😆
I believe you're misinterpreting the meaning of separation of church & state. It does not mean religion has to be kept separate from state/fed gov'ts. It means the gov't can't dictate to citizens what religion they should practice. Religious freedom is in our founding documemts, allowing anyone to practice any religion they choose. In our Pledge of Allegiance, we say we are "one nation under God." We have prayers in school. It says "In God We Trust" on our federal reserve notes. Religion & our gov't do commingle. The gov't just can't dictate what religion we practice or establish a national religion. 😊⛪🇺🇸🙏🏼💞
the supreme Ayatollahs have spoken.
Lol that's a jab they won't like 🤣
If there's anything they hate, it's being compared to people exactly like them but who are not of the same race and religion 🤣
@@samf.s.7731 if it quacks like a duck, it's a duck. .
DO NOT SELL TO MAGAS!!!!
We really need regulations against all religious institution and the tax exempt status for all Religious institution remove.
These people have forgotten this is not the darkages anymore. These people are not in charge of other people's lives who don't care for their religion anymore.
For any religious groups that are against this type of behavior and is standing up for all and not a few you are not the issue. Keep up the good work.
the fact that you dont care about people religion give you the right to dictate in other people rights??
@yeudylove2820 Here's a question if someone could have stopped heavens gate or Jones town would they be right or wrong if they knew what they were about to do?
Yes Religious institution Can do good but history is not on its side.
Religion and spirituality has a right but we need regulations against the bat shit crazies. Look at the middle east for example. Religion with no power is safe for everyone. Whenever Religion takes change many people die and suffer.
These people forget there is no middle ground Christ himself said either you stand with me or against me these lgbtq people say they don't want religion down their throats but try to push their agenda on everybody else especially kids
conservative supreme faux court of the supreme court , again .... edit : freedom of religion MEANS FREEDOM FROM religious persecution !!
Keep your democracy for your self lgptqx ,
There no such thing a "gay christian". A christian does not bask in the sin. A christian may struggle with a sin but is not proud of their sin, nor do christians encourage others that their sin is acceptable in God's eyes. That's a sure way to unleash God's wrath on themselves.
Gatekeeping much? They have their own version of Christianity just like you. How do you know your faith isnt the false one?
So your God is kind of evil then?
So we should force people to do things that violate their religious beliefs? Doesn’t sound like freedom to me.
it's always been freedom a n d equality... but in a state whith the greatest inequality of the so called western hemisphere determines everyone's conditions of living a secure, healthy and free life one can understand that now all is about freedom (of speech). the sc is actually a "high performer" of a well coordinated distraction from the brutal condtions and structures of real life. it's not the first time in history that law secures economical interests of certain classes under the mask and in the name of a value like religious "freedom" or freedom of speech. religious values, masking norhing but class interests, over human rights in the name of "free speech" ruled out by the highest court in usa - that's identitarian and authoritarian doomsday for the survival of real liberalism and democracy.
Great Decision!!!!!
Unbelievable
Leviticus 18:22-25
Amplified Bible, Classic Edition
22 You shall not lie with a man as with a woman; it is an abomination.
23 Neither shall you lie with any beast and defile yourself with it; neither shall any woman yield herself to a beast to lie with it; it is confusion, perversion, and degradedly carnal.
24 Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, for in all these things the nations are defiled which I am casting out before you.
25 And the land is defiled; therefore I visit the iniquity of it upon it, and the land itself vomits out her inhabitants.
the devil is using that man claiming to be a Christian and a priest Remember the devil comes in sheep closing, Two women and two men cannot get married, yet they could get married in the eyes of a man, but in ,GOD, they are not married Remember, GOD, give you free will to do whatever you want.
The first half of that first sentence sounded like Trump to be honest.
"In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own."
~Founding Father *Thomas Jefferson,* in a letter to Horatio Spofford, 1814
Equal rights ????? How about the rights of the unborn
???
Satanic behavior
They must not read the Holy Bible because it clearly says to die to one’s self and you can’t go by feelings. Feelings lie! God says this is perversion! These are God’s words!
Although I appreciate Rev Raushenbush's good intentions, I will just say, that the Abrahamic religions, particularly Christianity and Islam are based on the ideas that there is a "one true religion, one true god and the world would be way better off if we were all members of said "Truth." (The ultimate irony that they don't agree on which of them has the "one true religion.") That is ALWAYS inherently a bludgeon. Trying to make that basic premise which is ipso facto exclusive, judgmental and spiritually fascist somehow "liberal" and "inclusive" is just logical gymnastics.
I see so many comments saying “why didn’t they gay couple just choose a different web designer to work with? Why make an issue out of it?” The whole point of this is that there was no gay couple. They never asked this lady to design them a website. The lady faked her way all the way to the Supreme Court. Do some research before commenting ignorance.
but why made this case it's way through all the courts and finally to the sc?
why is this possible in usa? faking a court case without reality based events so that it opens a dark new law enforced entrance for authoritarian backward orientated, reactionary fascism-to-come.. . i don't get it.
Their force feeding ilk!
God created Man, God created Woman, wtf is gayness created?
So god creates gay people and then demands that they not be gay? Pretty evil.
@@jennifersilver3023if god and Satan exists, I’d choose Satan. Can’t be worse than god lol
Human limitations preclude the ability to be unbiased judges. AI has advanced to the point where it can reach conclusions (judgements) that are devoid of prejudice, politics, and religious ideologies. The only way to achieve justice is to not judge. Court cases would be decided in minutes vs days, months or years. The backlog of immigration cases could be eliminated. Corruption could be eliminated. Congestion would be cleared and freedom restored.
That’s not true at all! People are more than capable of making unbiased decisions. The problem is people are falling back into tribalism instead of viewing all humans as….well humans. It’s a problem of education, or lack there of, more than anything else. This is why conservatives are so hell bent on limiting education because they know an informed citizen is a citizen they can’t control.
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the epic fall of xtiamiy and churches 😞 christianity is dying and destroyed by its own hierarchy system... byebye churches
Seeing Christianity die is very satisfying! It teaches ignorance and hate… nothing else.
They Want rights for people of same sex that's their progertive,my issue is attempting to make christian values obsolete and will punish those that do not fall in line ,
no Blacks, Irish, no dogs, was always in places when I was growing up, so i know first hand discrimination and racism,
discrimination should not happen against anyone ,
its one thing to accept or not people that wish to live an alternative life in society,however its a serious thing when they will bully those who follow the Rules given to man from the beginning of time in how they live ,from the bible , Koran ,or Torah the foundation for mankind , Godly principles,
I personally care zero,about a persons sexual orientation, do what you will for I am no one's judge and we all will be judged accordingly,
We only going to have a problem.if you attempt to make my Christian values obsolete,or ridiculed and that's whats happening, for almighty God will not be mocked,
The gay agenda wishes to take over society's throughout the world,and that is what will cause a religious war world wide,
I cannot understand how any church minister can read selected things from the bible knowing that certain acts are not accepted , nor permitted, but will bow to pressure because of sanctions,
The lgbq community wishes to use political might to force countries, and people to tow the line , that is what will put people from the lgbt community at risk
It's not for me to judge like o said ,that belongs to the creator of life,Almighty God, the creator of heaven & earth and mankind
Soon these people will attempt to blind the masses to think that the creation of life was started by man.🙄
When my friends and I go partying we usually have trouble getting quick and courteous service at clubs and bars because not being accompanied by men is seen as inappropriate. Reality (the 3 dimensional kind) is a bitch. People have the right of free association- the basis of a free society.
While the same people who own the republican party, also own the supreme court, this is what we can expect. Decisions that pander to the worst and most vile in the USA. In a sense, religion has nothing to do with this decision, intolerance is what we are dealing with, the right to oppress seems, after all, the most important right of all
These people are deceiving themselves.
Satan is att work!
what if christianity is against my "deEplY HeLd BeLieFs"?
Don't go to church.
@@williamjarrell8475 i don't. and i won't sell my etsy stuff to them either.
a lil they, "whomever", CAN do...??.....smh.....ijs
"9 Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. " 1 Corinthians 6
repent, only Jesus Christ saves.
WHAT is up with that reporter's "Laws Aren't Real" poster in the background?
Nutter much?
2 Peter
3 According as His divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, HAVING ESCAPED THE CORRUPTION THAT IS IN THE WORLD THROUGH LUSTS.
5 And beside this, giving all diligence, ADD TO YOUR FAITH VIRTUE; AND TO VIRTUE KNOWLEDGE;
6 AND TO KNOWLEDGE TEMPERANCE; AND TO TEMPERANCE PATIENCE; AND TO PATIENCE GODLINESS;
7 AND TO GODLINESS BROTHERLY KINDNESS; AND TO BROTHERLY KINDNESS CHARITY.
8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 BUT HE THAT LACKETH THESE THINGS IS BLINDED, AND CANNOT SEE AFAR OFF, AND HATH FORGOTTEN THAT HE WAS PURGED FROM HIS OLD SINS.
Bad for religion, or religion is bad? Hmmmmmm. Like who cares what they do behind the closed doors? 😂
Is LGBT a (religioüs) faith ?
Theat liar should read the bible to find out what religious marriage really is.
Ever see the sign that says "no shirt, no shoes, no service"? Businesses reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. Whether you're not wearing shoes or you're wearing a rainbow wedding dress. It's not good business but it's their choice.
The no shoes things is a health related issue, and it's applied to all customers equally. That is apples an oranges to this case.
No business should be able to discriminate based on race, gender, orientation, religion, etc. The right so badly wants to go back to when the blacks had their own drinking fountains, women couldn't vote, gay people were beat up, etc
@@user-zy4wv7yx1z thx for your reply. I don't think sexual orientation can be even remotely understood as the same thing as being black. I've walked into pizza shops barefooted plenty of times when on the Wildwood boardwalk and I personally don't think racism and bigotry are the same thing. Racism is a specific type of bigotry directed towards a person of a different race than your own. And although I might not agree with someone who is a bigot or a racist for that matter, in America your hatred towards people who are different is considered free speech and is constitutionally protected.
@@danthomas6587 To me, it's all the same. If you hate someone for a race they were born into without a choice, and if you hate someone for being born with a sexual orientation that isn't the choice, I do not see a difference.
I can see that being visibly black in the US, you could be exposed to more racism on a daily basis. As opposed to being white and gay. I can't comment on that because I'm not black.
But any hatred against a person for how they were born is unacceptable and the government should not condone that behavior
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They all can be saved by Jesus. We share the gospel with them because the are enslave by the spirit of confusion.
That's a lie, thank God thank For His LAW S GOD LAWS
Man end women only
This is much