As a licensed foster parent in CA I can tell you that CPS/CFS is a nightmare to work with. I personally had a social worker tell me if I “made too many waves” when I asked for a copy of the placement agreement, which they had not yet given me for a child already in my care at the time, I would have that child (who happened to be my 18 mo. old grandson) removed and placed with someone “more cooperative”. After one child was reunited with their parent for over two months, I had a social worker show up at my house asking to see the child to check on their welfare. They didn’t even know where the child was. I could tell you story after story. And you wouldn’t believe half of them. This was NOT an accident. At all.
@@allisonjames2923 If we only knew the answer to that question, we would know what to fix. Some say it’s the caseload and the fact that there aren’t enough workers to do the job properly. Others say is the lack of work ethic and oversight of those doing the job. And still others say it’s the bureaucracy itself that ties the hands of those working within the system. I personally think it’s a combination of all of the above. And it’s inexcusable. The one place no society should ever fail is with the protection of its children.
I'm in Nebraska and a friend of mine fosters. She says the same thing here We are an extremely small tight knit community and my friend was the best possible placement for some siblings who lived here and were put in her care...she's an amazing mom and a Gulf War Vet, 100% integrity, gentile but firm discipline, she also worked for the school and was one of a small handful I would trust with my disabled daughter. I can't say enough about her. Anyway She was told the same thing about making waves. She wasn't getting reports and authorizations she needed, she was reporting the parents for failures and was told to "stop being so picky". These three were eventually pulled from her care because she was "too much", they were separated and sent to different cities. One is a friend of my son and has since attempted suicide 3 times because of the care he's recieving, one was abused and malnourished in a "suitable home"and one was returned to the parents who never got off drugs. I have 3 friends who all worked for CPS and all three quit and went to private companies because of how awful the system is run. It's a systemic problem and it's not a single state. It makes me sick.
@@HellenaHanbasquet What a horrible set of circumstances. That breaks my heart. The one social worker I worked with on the foster parent side that I actually respected for being amazing at her job and supportive of our efforts just called me last month to say goodbye because she quit. It made me so sad because she was literally the only person I could count on who actually did her job really well. The good ones usually burn out. Who wouldn’t with what they see going on around them on a daily basis. There have been so many instances of CPS/CFS not doing their job which has resulted in a child’s death that I am surprised the entire system isn’t completely overhauled and taken over by the federal government. Not that the fed is much better. Multiple workers here in California faced criminal charges for their reckless disregard for the safety of a child in their care when his parents beat him to death him after he was returned to them with no follow through by the agency and multiple calls from concerned neighbors and teachers were ignored. I don’t know why people get into this line of work if they don’t want to do what’s necessary to do the job. Or why the state doesn’t provide more funding when this is so much more important than so many other things. A society that doesn’t protect its children is doomed.
What’s wrong? It’s impossible for the state to do what God designed the family to do. In addition, dysfunctional parents make it hard for reunification. The workers are low paid & have to deal with a lot of cases. That said, in my experience, no one wants to “make waves”, they lie to kids, and unless someone pressures DCS, GALs, the lawyers & judges to take action, everything “floats along”. It’s maddening.
When you keep the judge and a bunch of others waiting an hour and a half and the first thing he does is very calmly ask you to spell your full name you can be sure it’s not because he’s adding you to his holiday card list.
During quarantine all of the elderly people in our church were able to log onto zoom meetings. No computer experience so this is absolutely ridiculous. These people are supposed to be for the children but clearly they are not. Kudos to the judge
I worked for CPS in Ohio in the 90s and spent a lot of time in court as I was on the team investigating cases potentially headed to criminal court. I can’t even imaging disrespecting the judge and the court in that manner. That was crazy. We would have been fired the first time and we didn’t have the luxury of Zoom court. Being charged with Contempt of Court? I would have dug a hole and pulled the dirt back in on top of myself. Never. It’s just not done.
The worst thing I've seen since all this went online was Concho Valley. The CPS worker directed the foster family who was hoping to adopt to be in charge of coordinating reunification therapy (including picking the therapist) with the biological father who was late-added to the case. This was a young man with a stable job, a home, a car & license, no substance or violence issues, and who wanted custody of his son. Oh, and the reason the father was late-added? First, his ex-partner hid the pregnancy and child from him until the CPS termination case. She never actually told him, but she did give his name and information so he could be served. Then the CPS worker *averred that he had been served, though she had not done so.* For multiple hearings, it was believed he had merely been non-responsive to the summons. For the life of me, I can't remember how he ultimately found out. It may have been that he was appointed an attorney, even though he wasn't present, and the attorney reached out. I think, if he wanted to sue, he'd have textbook grounds to knock down qualified immunity. I think it's fair to say that CPS worker violated a clearly established right of which a reasonable person would have known -- the right to be served, and not have the worker lie and say she'd served you, when she hadn't. (She actually got a 5th amendment warning in her final day of testimony, when Father's attorney was questioning her in this area.)
Haha. CPS in Ohio most definitely isn't like that anymore😂 They are the most incompetent people I've ever seen. They are removing kids to keep them in the downtown building because they have no placements and the kids are severely neglected, placed into worse homes than what they were removed from. Cps can't keep an employee longer than a couple months because they are so ass backwards and disorganized and corrupt. It's disgusting.
Also it's scary that these two disrespectful and immature people are in charge of deciding if a parent can keep their child or not! If they dare do this in court, lord knows what they've done with families. It's very telling and I hope they consider a different career choice or are forced to.
Agreed. But what should one expect when the people don't want to pay for good CPS services? If you are buying dollarstore CPS you get dollarstore quality CPS.
This is the juvenile detention docket for the 323 district court. Judge Porter is one of the associate judges. I watch these detention dockets every day. Judge Kim (the main judge) is fantastic, too. And Lateph is the child's lawyer, Lateph Adeniji (not sure how it's spelled).
My brother is the head of CPS over a large section of my state (Virginia) and I can tell you he would NEVER do this or put up with it out of his social workers! There are some really good ones but ALOT of bad ones.......but
The Judge caught them in a contemptible lie. They deserve the fines and also deserve arrest if there is further lateness or failure to appear to court proceedings. This Judge saw right through the charade.
I was all, “I’m not sure if they’re being jerks or are just incompetent,” right up until the judge quoted that 93 minutes figure AND mentioned they’d already missed another appearance that same day. Just amazing, but not the good kind of amazing, like you’d want!
My son has therapy 2 times a month and we set up everything an hour ahead. Just incase the computer wants to update or do something crazy. We log in atleast 25 minutes ahead and wait until we are let in. My 7 year old can log into zoom and his classes himself. This is just crazy to me.
I saw this live and thought it was a parent that couldn't log in. When I realized it was CPS, I knew it was something passive aggressive. They are upset with something Judge Kim did previously.
93 minutes is beyond ok. Even an average person would have hussled to figure out the issue and called in or something. I agree with you, it is just disrespect.
Holy crap! This Judge laid down the law. $186 is not a whole lot of money, but it’s the principal. Both the “specialists” and supervisor. Then made it due by 1700, that gives them less than 2 hours to get to the courthouse. I have no idea if they are in the same building or vicinity, but that is awesome. I would love, love, love to see a SOVCIT try their crap with this Judge. Congratulations on reaching 25k Mike. It won’t be long until you are over 100k. Thank you for posting.
True. Usually, one wouldn't want to be in court period (nothing against government employees, but is just too much stress imho even for civil matters where you won't get fined or go to jail).
Love this judge and love the court order to appear before this judge you don’t think you have to answer to. I hope you get some time in jail for contempt.
I live in the DFW area. Had family members that had to deal with these people. It was a nightmare. They put the kids in the worst situation possible. Just mind boggling stuff.
Adding insult to injury the judge said that was the second time that CPS officials failed to appear for a court hearing THAT DAY. Makes me wonder how many times they had failed for the week, the month, the year???
Love him! Finally a judge that holds people accountable! Now bet they will have something to have against him. These two employees need a different job….not this one….not capable. You don’t sit there for 93 mins and not try something else.
This is what the judiciary is for. Making sure everybody including gov't offices and employees are following the rules. This is a good video for regular citizens to see.
I watch Judge Kim and Porter’s courts quite a bit and they have had a lot of issues with CPS even doing show causes for contempt, so I agree with your assessment.
It's funny. I have run an IT company and I use Zoom in my business all the time. I log in several minutes early and verify my setup all the time. I have 3 devices that I can use, with one preferred over the others. It is not that hard. My son is in the Army and they certify them for everything (like even driving). They don't bother certify them for Teams.
The biggest fuck up I’ve ever had with zoom is forgetting to take my last name out of an instance where I would not have wanted it displayed and I’m not all that smart. It’s a pretty easy program
I've worked with CPS, not for just with, when I worked in eligibility for welfare. They did fire one worker who would pull similar things. She also hid some reports of abuse behind her desk so that she could go home early. The judge held that information against them and fined them even after she was fired. They vetted thier employees a lot better after that. It's a tough job, but it is a Vital one as it involves children and the children's entire life. Stay Sexy Mike!❤🍀🤗
Ooohhhhhh I watched this one just a little bit ago and I was thinking of you the whole time!!!!! Judge Porter killed it he was not playing to be such an outstanding advocate for these youths its just absolutely amazing to see... I am loving this judge he's like a Middleton/Bryant combo!!!!!
I like him a lot as well. I just don’t do stuff involving children and that is his call. I handled a juvenile call as a young prosecutor and it takes an emotional toll.
@@supertoasting1011 Yeah, I'm guessing Faith sees different types of scary stuff from those in the video. Faith probably does not see stuff like laptops circling for 93 minutes.
I've seen some scary CPS related stuff since they started streaming on RUclips. Including perjury from this agency in Concho County Texas including forging signatures on documents. This was at multiple trials where the state was seeking termination of the parents rights! I was so happy when I saw Judge Porter do this.
I have a friend who is CPS in Arkansas. If the way their IT systems are handled (she is in a rural area) is only remotely similar to TX, then what CPS did was only trying to stall things there. My friend's suspicion is that they are trying to hide some major cockups.
Spread the word...the children need PROTECTION FROM CPS. MOSTLY FROM THE DESTRUCTION THEY DO ! NO HELP FROM THEIR ABUSE! THE TRUTH IS STARTING TO COME OUT!
Good example of a basic failure. CPS is failing, and though, yes, we can blame lack of funding and support, the job is vital and showing up to court is easier than just about any other aspect of the job.
CPS can sing the "Lack of Funding Blues" all they want, but my nearly 10-year-old desktop and 7-year-old laptop function on ZOOM fairly well, and I would be willing to wager serious money that CPS is using newer devices than mine.
@@moosecat I'll take that wager. I know that in my state when Windows 7 was the newest version, CPS was running on Windows 95. It was easy to out-type the computer's capability to put the letters on the screen because the system was so slow.
Wow…what blatant disrespect…and don’t even get me started about entrusting children to the “Judgment” of imbeciles. Thanks for that one Mike and congratulations on 25,000!!!. 🇨🇦
25k subs ? well done Mike, you deserve every one of them & more. This is another one of those situations where, it's like when you was a kid sitting at the dinner table while your dad is tearing out your sibling & everyone else just sits there trying not to draw attention to themselves fully aware there's no escape. He's a pretty good Judge holding it together for as long as he did while his court was being disrupted. Stay safe & keep on smiling 👍🏼🦘
When I have a Zoom call, I try about 15 mins early and enter the room to make sure that I’m in the right place. Then I have my phone next to me just incase. I had a hospital zoom today at 11am and I was ready at 10.15am. I tried the service at 10.15am and saw it was working and then I was poised and ready when I reconnected again at 10.50am! I would rather wait for meetings to open than be late!!! Shockingly disrespectful!!!
@@JacaboBlanco It is shocking and disheartening to me just how disrespectful so many people have become. What is happening to our society when decency is so hard to find?
Hi Mike. The accusation that has come up before is that OCOK (Which is part of CPS) doesn’t show up for court when they think they will have to pick up a child that they don’t want to. I get the impression that in the past kids that were in custody were left there as a last priority for the department. I watch the 323rd almost every day, there incompetence is insane, I’ve seen worse then this.
I watch this yesterday, c.p.s. was told many times to report to court and they always had a excuse for not showing up. Now they don't want to be in court even the supervisor didn't know what to do. Yes porter is a very nice judge.
How can CPS have such a breakdown of their relationship with the court?!? It's shocking. They have a vested interest in maintaining a strong working relationship with the court in order to serve the children they are there to protect. And these two clowns are playing dumb games instead of doing their jobs.
Because (unfortunately) those two are the kind of people that only care about power and/or themselves. They consider their job duties as inconveniences to be skirted whenever possible.
So glad you covered this, Mike! I watched all of that call, starting with Judge Kim then handed off to Judge Porter. Judge P. is indeed quite patient, and extremely perceptive. His BS meter with the kids and parents involved is excellent. His rulings are quick/efficient and made sense to me. After the point where you cut this off, the CPS people asked Judge P. to give them the address. Of the courthouse. Which (he confirmed) they HAD in fact visited in person before. They then asked for an alternative because one CPS worker didn’t have a checkbook with her. Judge P., deadpan, said “Well, I guess you get to stop at the bank first then.” He repeated the 5:00 deadline and the arrest warrant as consequence for any non-compliance. I understand your not wanting to cover juvenile cases, but would recommend Judge Alex Kim’s channel to anyone interested. (Also note that they don’t broadcast anything related to kids 14 or under.) Thanks for letting me enjoy the delicious awfulness a second time 😂💐
@@mindybunny Sure thing! I’ll post it in a separate comment, because YT often puts comments with links on hold 😐 In case my other comment doesn’t come through, Mike actually included it in the video description. It’s not right at the top as he usually does, and its label isn’t obviously related - something like “323rd District Court Hearings 2/1/22”. That court streams its proceedings on the YT channel “Judge Alex Kim,” so that’s another way to find it. Enjoy 💐
agreed, the ending was great. after all that, they blurt out complaints about how to pay like a common parole violator. The whole court must have been, are they for real? and I get that yt encourages a certain length of video, but I'm one of those people who appreciate long content as well, you have to appreciate the awkwardness of the waiting first hand.
Their hearings are interesting to watch just for the control they have over their virtual courtroom. Judge Kim really keeps the parents in line and it’s amazing how often he has to kick the parents off the calls. All of the three are great judges but don’t disrespect them or break the simple rules
I've had to do home schooling via zoom and Google Meet with my nine year old due to the pandemic before, he was 7 and eight at those times. He knew how to mute and unmute.
Never has the term "herding cats" been more appropriate than in the Zoom era of human existence. And I don't even blame the cats... it's usually their first time doing anything like this, while the judge and attorneys have done this a thousand times, so of course they get frustrated.
They could have rehearsed and researched how to do all the things in zoom beforehand. And they should know their phone well enough to figure out how to keep from muting your phone. Usually, you just have to turn the volume up. In this case, the people were CPS which means they certainly knew how to work the technology because no doubt they hold meetings on a daily basis.
@@CorgiDaddy2 Yeah I agree in this case with a CPS worker who should know. But most times these issues happen with just some random defendant who has probably never had to use Zoom or anything similar before, and they're already nervous about being in court.
@@CorgiDaddy2 For people who aren't familiar with technology it can be pretty daunting trying to get round problems. There aren't any easy to read guides to figuring out why things don't work, and solutions like "we're in the wrong meeting" aren't always obvious.
@@DNPaterson "zoom 101" is a great search term and I got loads of easy-to-read instructions and was able to make sure everything was in place for my appointment.
Judge said it well! I grew up with amazing friends who suffered in the foster care system as innocent kids with crappy parents in drugs and in and out of jail and later I became a foster parent during an emergency case with a student of my own… it was an absolute nightmare more so with the foster care employees (case manager, etc.) than the bio family which is pathetic. These employees make it very difficult for not only foster parents who do care and who do it for the right reasons but worse for the innocent kids trapped in their failure of a system!!! I feel for the workers who do their job and care because sadly there’s more failures than successes in this system.
I'm a 74 year old born and raised Texan. Some of us Texans have a higher boiling point & it takes us longer to boil. But look out when we do. RUN. LOL. I love the Judge! Thanks for sharing this. More fun with Mike! 😁
I agree that they don't like being told what to do, they like being the ones doing the telling and being in charge of very VERY important issues on people's lives. They aren't looking at their screens and should be held in contempt. We've had 2 deaths locally due to this kind of arrogance in the DCFS in Northern Illinois. I say, sack them, jail or fine them until they get themselves in CHECK!!!
Thank you for your honesty on what you know and what you don't know. As well as giving us as much info as you can. That is one of the reasons why I respect you as a human being.
Just wow! They are not able to figure out how to make it work for 93 minutes?! Damn, in this long period of time they could have easily walk over to the court... Sad that they don't prioritize the children that rely on them for help... They should really consider the change their career path! I wouldn't want someone like that working on my case! Great video as usual!
I loved, loved, loved this!!!!!! Yes, all incompetent individuals whom hold important positions (especially in regards to children!).... Should be held accountable!!! Thank you thank you for this!!! 😄😄😄
93 minutes late. Holy cow! Unfortunately this seems to be the case in 95% of the CPS groups. You can really talk about how understaffed and everything they are, but that is no excuse for the disrespect of the court or the peoples time. It really looks to me like they probably weren’t prepared, and didn’t even want to show. Another good one!
I have worked with some compassionate, intelligent caseworkers who sacrifice their time and effort for kids at risk and with others who are are drunk with power and self- importance. Very few have been a parent and they often have lived sheltered lives of academia. Glad the court is holding them accountable.
I also work in the IT industry specifically with Microsoft SQL server. It astounds me how many people don’t understand very user friendly software like Zoom that has a clear and defined graphical user interface. It makes me concerned for our species. On another note, you never cease to entertain and make my day exponentially better Mike! Great video!
@@PrashantBhardwaj13 In this case, we know the microphone wasn't the problem, since it did go on them off again (as the judge mentioned), and then they were heard just fine through the speakerphone.
I’m down here in Texas and there has been a lot of issues with CPS and foster care in the state during the last few years. Unfortunately this is an example that is indicative of the ongoing struggles, with relatively little initiative from state leadership.
We've been doing this for almost 2 years now. 🤦🏻♂️At this point I'd just mark a defendant as absent and move on to the next case. Courts have to deal with way too much other stuff for these shenanigans.
I watched this happen live!! It was actually longer and they weren't even on the zoom like they were supposed to be. He has had many issues with them before and he is fed up! They have obligations and they are not keeping up with them and it is rubbing the judge the wrong way big time!! He runs his courtroom a certain way. He finds that disrespectful of them. The other attorney tried to help also but they are CPS! They know what they have to do and didn't do it and didn't even show up and then pull this crap!? He is DONE! You took out my favorite part "Well, I guess you better stop off at the bank on the way here then!" Whe she asked if she could pay by credit card or debit card cause she didn't have checks!! You didn't keep that in!!!! That was the best part hahaha
Love Judge Porter! I watched hours and hours of hearings in his courtroom in 2020/2021, until my heart needed a break! I've seen the failure of CPS in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area and thrilled when Judge Porter holds them in contempt! These people have a duty of service to the children and to the court! These CPS employees have some of the worst behavior I've ever seen, having watched many different Juvenile Court hearings over the years! Thank you, Mike, for showing this video clip, with commentary!💜
I am terrible with computers and social media. I also live in a rural area with only satellite internet available. That said, I was easily able to attend to medical appointments via Zoom. I was proud of myself for how easily I handled it. I theorize, as you did, this was intentional. Unless someone had a signal jammer, which their visual attempts rules out, it's impossible for all the computers and phones to malfunction. Judge Porter handled this beautifully!
I work in IT, so it’s not completely unheard of for an entire office worth of PCs to be down. I’m going to make a HUGE assumption here - based on there being only two devices, I’m guessing these devices ARE NOT domain joined (unless the govt has stepped up to using Azure, which I doubt for cost and security reasons). This would make their most likely failure the internet. IDK what kind of providers they have in that area, but a whole block or a single office could be down. Unless they’re paying for a business connection (much more expensive), then their internet is as likely to die as your home internet is. Just for some perspective. However, they could’ve joined by phone or called, etc. instead of dragging on for 90 minutes. Totally intentional.
@@heavenlydove I’m not excusing it by any means, just giving a bit of context to their claim about all of the computers being down. I ended up ultimately saying that I did believe their lack of attendance was intentional.
Its TWO YEARS in the pandemic. 2 computers and 2 phones allegedly not working, didn't think to call the court, call their lawyer, have someone run to the court and get on a computer or in the courtroom (depending on availability), can't keep the video straight on the workers, didn't think to have video in one device and audio in the other, and NINETY-THREE MINUTES GO BY? The likelihood of that amount of obstacles at once is infantesimal. Either negligence so significant that neither should be in charge of children or, more likely, intentional actions.
Do you think that was 180 dollars worth of fun for the two people ? They got what they deserved. The judge did keep his cool. That was impressive. Thanks Mike, as always. Hugs and belly rubs to the twins. They seem happy and content. That says a lot about you ! Thanks again, Jerry
WOW!! He is mad, rightfully so. He also should have said if you had all these issues why didnt you call here or come down and do this in person. I hope they paid the fine by 5pm!!
When it's something as important as court, you need to, not just be on time, but you need to have checked that your equipment is working, & paperwork, if necessary, is in perfect order. Like you Mike, I'd have 'hit the proverbial roof'!!
I am totally IT illiterate. But I would make damn sure someone taught me how to go on zoom well in advance. It is my responsibility to be there at the right day & time for a court case.
Ignore a Judge's orders in court and you'll be held in contempt. Zoom allows these rude people get away with it....... (wooops, I wrote this too early, great job by the Judge) 👍
I logged into the wrong Zoom ONCE and it never happened again. It's common sense, and if they don't have that many brain cells, then I go with the passive aggressive and am glad for the contempt of court fines. Well deserved.
I’ve always been taught that as a professional, you should be checking any technical issues at least 30 min to an hour before to allow for other options (ie, going to the court house, calling in, checking the room is correct, messaging the judge, etc). 93 minutes for *two adults* to figure out there was an issue? Nah, had to be a passive aggressive move
If you were on at 1:30 for a 1:30 court hearing you were late. I also don't believe that they sat there staring at a screen for an hour and half and nobody thought to call one of the other participants, or call the courthouse to see if they could get in touch with the judge's clerk, or anything.
I’m so happy Judge Kim’s court room made your channel. Lateph Adiniji is a defense attorney. Judge Kim has a good relationship with him as you’ll see in some of his past videos. Kim is not afraid to find parents and kids in contempt when warranted. Another frequent defense atty is Trent Lofton… some of the judges have no patience for his sense of humor though.
Ugh...that is frustrating. Now, if this was some low income defendant on drugs or alcohol, I could understand the mess. Its inexcusable for a government employee (CPS) to display this amount of supposed confusion and technical incompetence. If there was technical difficulties, they should have had an IT person trying to solve the problem.
That is just ridiculous, I swear people these days. No respect for anyone, but if it was them and they were waiting on someone, I guarantee you they wouldn't be as patient. Tell you this, the judge ain't buyin it!!!! Yes CPS means Child Protective Services, you are correct sir. Oh I am not buying all this, all of their electronics all of a sudden are malfunctioning. Awesome, the judge is finding them in contempt, that is what he needs to do!!!!!
As a licensed foster parent in CA I can tell you that CPS/CFS is a nightmare to work with. I personally had a social worker tell me if I “made too many waves” when I asked for a copy of the placement agreement, which they had not yet given me for a child already in my care at the time, I would have that child (who happened to be my 18 mo. old grandson) removed and placed with someone “more cooperative”. After one child was reunited with their parent for over two months, I had a social worker show up at my house asking to see the child to check on their welfare. They didn’t even know where the child was. I could tell you story after story. And you wouldn’t believe half of them. This was NOT an accident. At all.
That’s terrible. What is so wrong with the system?
@@allisonjames2923 If we only knew the answer to that question, we would know what to fix. Some say it’s the caseload and the fact that there aren’t enough workers to do the job properly. Others say is the lack of work ethic and oversight of those doing the job. And still others say it’s the bureaucracy itself that ties the hands of those working within the system. I personally think it’s a combination of all of the above. And it’s inexcusable. The one place no society should ever fail is with the protection of its children.
I'm in Nebraska and a friend of mine fosters. She says the same thing here We are an extremely small tight knit community and my friend was the best possible placement for some siblings who lived here and were put in her care...she's an amazing mom and a Gulf War Vet, 100% integrity, gentile but firm discipline, she also worked for the school and was one of a small handful I would trust with my disabled daughter. I can't say enough about her. Anyway She was told the same thing about making waves. She wasn't getting reports and authorizations she needed, she was reporting the parents for failures and was told to "stop being so picky". These three were eventually pulled from her care because she was "too much", they were separated and sent to different cities. One is a friend of my son and has since attempted suicide 3 times because of the care he's recieving, one was abused and malnourished in a "suitable home"and one was returned to the parents who never got off drugs. I have 3 friends who all worked for CPS and all three quit and went to private companies because of how awful the system is run. It's a systemic problem and it's not a single state. It makes me sick.
@@HellenaHanbasquet What a horrible set of circumstances. That breaks my heart. The one social worker I worked with on the foster parent side that I actually respected for being amazing at her job and supportive of our efforts just called me last month to say goodbye because she quit. It made me so sad because she was literally the only person I could count on who actually did her job really well. The good ones usually burn out. Who wouldn’t with what they see going on around them on a daily basis. There have been so many instances of CPS/CFS not doing their job which has resulted in a child’s death that I am surprised the entire system isn’t completely overhauled and taken over by the federal government. Not that the fed is much better. Multiple workers here in California faced criminal charges for their reckless disregard for the safety of a child in their care when his parents beat him to death him after he was returned to them with no follow through by the agency and multiple calls from concerned neighbors and teachers were ignored. I don’t know why people get into this line of work if they don’t want to do what’s necessary to do the job. Or why the state doesn’t provide more funding when this is so much more important than so many other things. A society that doesn’t protect its children is doomed.
What’s wrong? It’s impossible for the state to do what God designed the family to do. In addition, dysfunctional parents make it hard for reunification.
The workers are low paid & have to deal with a lot of cases.
That said, in my experience, no one wants to “make waves”, they lie to kids, and unless someone pressures DCS, GALs, the lawyers & judges to take action, everything “floats along”. It’s maddening.
When you keep the judge and a bunch of others waiting an hour and a half and the first thing he does is very calmly ask you to spell your full name you can be sure it’s not because he’s adding you to his holiday card list.
Very true 👍 😆 🤣 😂
Even then the arrogance in the supervisor's voice was astonishing. As if they were both "protected by the Prince of Darkness" himself.
During quarantine all of the elderly people in our church were able to log onto zoom meetings. No computer experience so this is absolutely ridiculous. These people are supposed to be for the children but clearly they are not. Kudos to the judge
YOU TELL EM, Judge!!!! The dead silence on the line was deafening!
I worked for CPS in Ohio in the 90s and spent a lot of time in court as I was on the team investigating cases potentially headed to criminal court. I can’t even imaging disrespecting the judge and the court in that manner. That was crazy. We would have been fired the first time and we didn’t have the luxury of Zoom court. Being charged with Contempt of Court? I would have dug a hole and pulled the dirt back in on top of myself. Never. It’s just not done.
The worst thing I've seen since all this went online was Concho Valley. The CPS worker directed the foster family who was hoping to adopt to be in charge of coordinating reunification therapy (including picking the therapist) with the biological father who was late-added to the case. This was a young man with a stable job, a home, a car & license, no substance or violence issues, and who wanted custody of his son.
Oh, and the reason the father was late-added? First, his ex-partner hid the pregnancy and child from him until the CPS termination case. She never actually told him, but she did give his name and information so he could be served. Then the CPS worker *averred that he had been served, though she had not done so.* For multiple hearings, it was believed he had merely been non-responsive to the summons. For the life of me, I can't remember how he ultimately found out. It may have been that he was appointed an attorney, even though he wasn't present, and the attorney reached out.
I think, if he wanted to sue, he'd have textbook grounds to knock down qualified immunity. I think it's fair to say that CPS worker violated a clearly established right of which a reasonable person would have known -- the right to be served, and not have the worker lie and say she'd served you, when she hadn't. (She actually got a 5th amendment warning in her final day of testimony, when Father's attorney was questioning her in this area.)
Haha. CPS in Ohio most definitely isn't like that anymore😂
They are the most incompetent people I've ever seen. They are removing kids to keep them in the downtown building because they have no placements and the kids are severely neglected, placed into worse homes than what they were removed from. Cps can't keep an employee longer than a couple months because they are so ass backwards and disorganized and corrupt. It's disgusting.
CPS failed to appear? Holy cow! I thought at first it was parents who were late. This is scary stuff. Very scary.
LOL. About time they get a taste of their own medicine.
Most of those state institutions, through out the country, are a joke. The "Employees" and "Clients" are one-in-the-same.
I love it when people are held accountable. Especially when they are some sort of “authority”.
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@@LawTalkWithMike can you check out the video I posted on my channel of DHR illegally removing my daughter from our home.
Me too! This was great !
@@stygianindustries8295 no
@@xxskizzumxx no what
Also it's scary that these two disrespectful and immature people are in charge of deciding if a parent can keep their child or not! If they dare do this in court, lord knows what they've done with families. It's very telling and I hope they consider a different career choice or are forced to.
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Agreed. But what should one expect when the people don't want to pay for good CPS services?
If you are buying dollarstore CPS you get dollarstore quality CPS.
This is the juvenile detention docket for the 323 district court. Judge Porter is one of the associate judges. I watch these detention dockets every day. Judge Kim (the main judge) is fantastic, too. And Lateph is the child's lawyer, Lateph Adeniji (not sure how it's spelled).
My brother is the head of CPS over a large section of my state (Virginia) and I can tell you he would NEVER do this or put up with it out of his social workers! There are some really good ones but ALOT of bad ones.......but
@@peope1976 If they got more money, the only difference is these jerks would just get paid more to be jerks.
The Judge caught them in a contemptible lie. They deserve the fines and also deserve arrest if there is further lateness or failure to appear to court proceedings. This Judge saw right through the charade.
Two years of online classes, and I still have students who just attend classes as unresponsive black squares.
I was all, “I’m not sure if they’re being jerks or are just incompetent,” right up until the judge quoted that 93 minutes figure AND mentioned they’d already missed another appearance that same day. Just amazing, but not the good kind of amazing, like you’d want!
Treat a court hearing this way ??? Imagine how they threat the people they have authority over. Sickening.
Should have lost the job and be unable to work in this type of position ever
If that was me I would have tested the zoom about a hundred times to make sure I was all set for court. Unbelievable!
I do that just for my work meetings. I can’t imagine acting the way they did if it was for court!
My son has therapy 2 times a month and we set up everything an hour ahead. Just incase the computer wants to update or do something crazy. We log in atleast 25 minutes ahead and wait until we are let in. My 7 year old can log into zoom and his classes himself. This is just crazy to me.
That's what I do as a student! Way lower stakes!
I saw this live and thought it was a parent that couldn't log in. When I realized it was CPS, I knew it was something passive aggressive. They are upset with something Judge Kim did previously.
93 minutes is beyond ok. Even an average person would have hussled to figure out the issue and called in or something. I agree with you, it is just disrespect.
They should have called the main court clerk's office and told them they were having problems logging in, at the very least
Holy crap! This Judge laid down the law. $186 is not a whole lot of money, but it’s the principal. Both the “specialists” and supervisor. Then made it due by 1700, that gives them less than 2 hours to get to the courthouse. I have no idea if they are in the same building or vicinity, but that is awesome. I would love, love, love to see a SOVCIT try their crap with this Judge. Congratulations on reaching 25k Mike. It won’t be long until you are over 100k. Thank you for posting.
going to court is one of the most nerve-wracking things I've ever done. I can't imagine disrespecting the judge on purpose! 😬
True. Usually, one wouldn't want to be in court period (nothing against government employees, but is just too much stress imho even for civil matters where you won't get fined or go to jail).
Well people kill people for stupid reasons so why can't you imagine people disrespecting a judge which is a lesser evil?
@@mircat28 I can imagine people doing it, I can't imagine doing it myself. do you know what I mean?
@island girl *maybe* these people are more often in court so to them it is not such a big deal... if they did it on purpose....
Racking. It's nerve-racking. A rack is a torture device. I am pedant.
Love this judge and love the court order to appear before this judge you don’t think you have to answer to. I hope you get some time in jail for contempt.
CPS let minor stay in detention because they "couldn't" find a placement for him. Totally unacceptable.
Yup
I live in the DFW area. Had family members that had to deal with these people. It was a nightmare. They put the kids in the worst situation possible. Just mind boggling stuff.
The attorney whose first name is Lateph is truly a good guy. He does some court appointed defense work and is always very calm and helpful.
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Adding insult to injury the judge said that was the second time that CPS officials failed to appear for a court hearing THAT DAY. Makes me wonder how many times they had failed for the week, the month, the year???
Love him! Finally a judge that holds people accountable! Now bet they will have something to have against him. These two employees need a different job….not this one….not capable. You don’t sit there for 93 mins and not try something else.
This is what the judiciary is for. Making sure everybody including gov't offices and employees are following the rules. This is a good video for regular citizens to see.
Thank You and I agree
Can you give me an explanation of the definition of irregular citizens?
@@darrinlindsey I think they mean people who aren't in the law space or know the court system. Regular citizens
I watch Judge Kim and Porter’s courts quite a bit and they have had a lot of issues with CPS even doing show causes for contempt, so I agree with your assessment.
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I love it when a judge finally tells people that they have to come into the court physically, and they just look stymied. 👌
GO GET 'EM JUDGE!!!!!! It's time that CPS gets held accountable for their lack of services!!!!
It's funny. I have run an IT company and I use Zoom in my business all the time. I log in several minutes early and verify my setup all the time. I have 3 devices that I can use, with one preferred over the others. It is not that hard. My son is in the Army and they certify them for everything (like even driving). They don't bother certify them for Teams.
It's so damn easy.
Preparation. Just like you would in ANY other professional situation.
It's unbelievable.
The biggest fuck up I’ve ever had with zoom is forgetting to take my last name out of an instance where I would not have wanted it displayed and I’m not all that smart. It’s a pretty easy program
@@cyberus1438 I used to have a microphone that occasionally wanted to transmit at double speed. So, I always test audio and video quality pre-call.
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I'm the same way. Especially for court. This is important.
I've worked with CPS, not for just with, when I worked in eligibility for welfare. They did fire one worker who would pull similar things. She also hid some reports of abuse behind her desk so that she could go home early. The judge held that information against them and fined them even after she was fired. They vetted thier employees a lot better after that. It's a tough job, but it is a Vital one as it involves children and the children's entire life.
Stay Sexy Mike!❤🍀🤗
Then the kids get put in abusive foster homes also
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Ooohhhhhh I watched this one just a little bit ago and I was thinking of you the whole time!!!!! Judge Porter killed it he was not playing to be such an outstanding advocate for these youths its just absolutely amazing to see... I am loving this judge he's like a Middleton/Bryant combo!!!!!
100% Agreed
I like him a lot as well. I just don’t do stuff involving children and that is his call. I handled a juvenile call as a young prosecutor and it takes an emotional toll.
@@LawTalkWithMike I know exactly what you mean Mike ! Have a great day my Friend
As someone that is currently employed by CPS (In Texas) I can say this is outrageous, hopefully they will be removing their badges any time soon.
I imagine you need a lot of mental strength and a strong gut to work that kind of job. I cant imagine the sh*t you have seen working for CPS.
@@supertoasting1011 how can you work for such a crooked organization that steals kids from family’s most of the time.
@@supertoasting1011 Yeah, I'm guessing Faith sees different types of scary stuff from those in the video. Faith probably does not see stuff like laptops circling for 93 minutes.
I've seen some scary CPS related stuff since they started streaming on RUclips. Including perjury from this agency in Concho County Texas including forging signatures on documents. This was at multiple trials where the state was seeking termination of the parents rights! I was so happy when I saw Judge Porter do this.
that is scary!!
Absolutely 200% least trustworthy people you'll ever deal with
Yeah I don’t know what the hell started it but CPS is across the board crazier than the VA can be
@@cyberus1438 I personally believe that one of the issues is having for profit agencies involved. Sets up the wrong incentive structure.
@@Cameron_F will agree that in cases where only the state has the right to manage rights, so prisons and CPS would both fit
Some of the most caring judges have no patience for immature incompetence and I love it
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I have a friend who is CPS in Arkansas. If the way their IT systems are handled (she is in a rural area) is only remotely similar to TX, then what CPS did was only trying to stall things there. My friend's suspicion is that they are trying to hide some major cockups.
This makes total sense
Not going to work for long though when they’ve got a judge who can order them to be in court in person & issue a warrant to ensure it 🤷♀️
Spread the word...the children need PROTECTION FROM CPS. MOSTLY FROM THE DESTRUCTION THEY DO ! NO HELP FROM THEIR ABUSE! THE TRUTH IS STARTING TO COME OUT!
Good example of a basic failure. CPS is failing, and though, yes, we can blame lack of funding and support, the job is vital and showing up to court is easier than just about any other aspect of the job.
CPS can sing the "Lack of Funding Blues" all they want, but my nearly 10-year-old desktop and 7-year-old laptop function on ZOOM fairly well, and I would be willing to wager serious money that CPS is using newer devices than mine.
@@moosecat I'll take that wager. I know that in my state when Windows 7 was the newest version, CPS was running on Windows 95. It was easy to out-type the computer's capability to put the letters on the screen because the system was so slow.
@@moosecat you can use Zoom on your cell phone if your computer isn’t working.
@@moosecat I'll take it too, my laptop is over 10 years old (But zoom works perfectly fine tho!)
@@Faith-pi8ci I have had an amateur (ham) radio license for nearly 40 years. Rule #1 of hand radio: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 😀
Wow…what blatant disrespect…and don’t even get me started about entrusting children to the “Judgment” of imbeciles.
Thanks for that one Mike and congratulations on 25,000!!!. 🇨🇦
25k subs ? well done Mike, you deserve every one of them & more.
This is another one of those situations where, it's like when you was a kid sitting at the dinner table while your dad is tearing out your sibling & everyone else just sits there trying not to draw attention to themselves fully aware there's no escape.
He's a pretty good Judge holding it together for as long as he did while his court was being disrupted.
Stay safe & keep on smiling 👍🏼🦘
When I have a Zoom call, I try about 15 mins early and enter the room to make sure that I’m in the right place. Then I have my phone next to me just incase. I had a hospital zoom today at 11am and I was ready at 10.15am. I tried the service at 10.15am and saw it was working and then I was poised and ready when I reconnected again at 10.50am! I would rather wait for meetings to open than be late!!!
Shockingly disrespectful!!!
Also, you simply look professional when you are there early and before others.
It's just common sense and decency
@@JacaboBlanco It is shocking and disheartening to me just how disrespectful so many people have become. What is happening to our society when decency is so hard to find?
Hi Mike. The accusation that has come up before is that OCOK (Which is part of CPS) doesn’t show up for court when they think they will have to pick up a child that they don’t want to. I get the impression that in the past kids that were in custody were left there as a last priority for the department. I watch the 323rd almost every day, there incompetence is insane, I’ve seen worse then this.
Then they have to go🤦♂️
That’s awful. Poor kids
The man that was trying to help them get signed on is Attny Lateph Adoneji.
Where and how do you watch it? I have no idea how to find it
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I watch this yesterday, c.p.s. was told many times to report to court and they always had a excuse for not showing up. Now they don't want to be in court even the supervisor didn't know what to do. Yes porter is a very nice judge.
You are correct in that citizens are fed up with the incompetency of government workers and the criminal acts they do and don't pay for.
I LOVE this judge! All of this courts hearings are in zoom and the whole team is amazing
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“We were trying!”
“Not very hard.”
SNAAAAP
You missed the part where Judge Porter was playing the Jeopardy theme! The poor kid, he must have been wondering what the hell was going on.
This was a great upload Mike! Gratitude
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How can CPS have such a breakdown of their relationship with the court?!? It's shocking. They have a vested interest in maintaining a strong working relationship with the court in order to serve the children they are there to protect. And these two clowns are playing dumb games instead of doing their jobs.
Because (unfortunately) those two are the kind of people that only care about power and/or themselves. They consider their job duties as inconveniences to be skirted whenever possible.
Arrogance at its finest..
So glad you covered this, Mike! I watched all of that call, starting with Judge Kim then handed off to Judge Porter. Judge P. is indeed quite patient, and extremely perceptive. His BS meter with the kids and parents involved is excellent. His rulings are quick/efficient and made sense to me.
After the point where you cut this off, the CPS people asked Judge P. to give them the address. Of the courthouse. Which (he confirmed) they HAD in fact visited in person before. They then asked for an alternative because one CPS worker didn’t have a checkbook with her. Judge P., deadpan, said “Well, I guess you get to stop at the bank first then.” He repeated the 5:00 deadline and the arrest warrant as consequence for any non-compliance.
I understand your not wanting to cover juvenile cases, but would recommend Judge Alex Kim’s channel to anyone interested. (Also note that they don’t broadcast anything related to kids 14 or under.)
Thanks for letting me enjoy the delicious awfulness a second time 😂💐
Could you please post a link for this I would love to watch it.
@@mindybunny Sure thing! I’ll post it in a separate comment, because YT often puts comments with links on hold 😐
In case my other comment doesn’t come through, Mike actually included it in the video description. It’s not right at the top as he usually does, and its label isn’t obviously related - something like “323rd District Court Hearings 2/1/22”.
That court streams its proceedings on the YT channel “Judge Alex Kim,” so that’s another way to find it.
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@@mindybunny Here you go:
ruclips.net/video/yaPZBhy-goM/видео.html
agreed, the ending was great. after all that, they blurt out complaints about how to pay like a common parole violator. The whole court must have been, are they for real? and I get that yt encourages a certain length of video, but I'm one of those people who appreciate long content as well, you have to appreciate the awkwardness of the waiting first hand.
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"not very hard" 😂
I had to teach all last year via Zoom. It’s set up so easily. These two deserved what they got. Holy mackerel…the children deserve better.
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You missed the best part at the end when CPS tries to examine why they can't be there by 5 and the judge examined why they WOULD be there by 5.
Their hearings are interesting to watch just for the control they have over their virtual courtroom. Judge Kim really keeps the parents in line and it’s amazing how often he has to kick the parents off the calls. All of the three are great judges but don’t disrespect them or break the simple rules
Wow the audacity of some people. unbelievable! Good video. Thanks Mike!
That's how they operate on one of many ways they think they are UNTOUCBABLE !
I personally loved when he was waiting on them and played the jeopardy song
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This was epic!! They were soooo not telling the truth!! Good for that judge!! 👏🏻
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I've had to do home schooling via zoom and Google Meet with my nine year old due to the pandemic before, he was 7 and eight at those times. He knew how to mute and unmute.
Yup
I didn't know that there are 25,000 idiots out there in the world. I'm extremely proud to be included in with all of them! Congrats Mike!
Thank You 😂😂😂
"We do not have a village idiot. We have to take turns."
@@LawTalkWithMike Your commentary is so great/appreciated. Has anyone coined “GravCits” yet? Perfect fans appellation.
I assume you mean "idiot" in a good way, right? LOL
Mike: 25K! You are growing FAST!!
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Seeing the recommendation in your chat the other day, I went and found this myself. Well worth a second watch!
(There was more!)
Never has the term "herding cats" been more appropriate than in the Zoom era of human existence. And I don't even blame the cats... it's usually their first time doing anything like this, while the judge and attorneys have done this a thousand times, so of course they get frustrated.
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They could have rehearsed and researched how to do all the things in zoom beforehand. And they should know their phone well enough to figure out how to keep from muting your phone. Usually, you just have to turn the volume up. In this case, the people were CPS which means they certainly knew how to work the technology because no doubt they hold meetings on a daily basis.
@@CorgiDaddy2 Yeah I agree in this case with a CPS worker who should know. But most times these issues happen with just some random defendant who has probably never had to use Zoom or anything similar before, and they're already nervous about being in court.
@@CorgiDaddy2 For people who aren't familiar with technology it can be pretty daunting trying to get round problems. There aren't any easy to read guides to figuring out why things don't work, and solutions like "we're in the wrong meeting" aren't always obvious.
@@DNPaterson "zoom 101" is a great search term and I got loads of easy-to-read instructions and was able to make sure everything was in place for my appointment.
I kept hearing the Jeopardy theme song in my head while watching this. The judge was VERY patient with them. 🤦♂️
CPS forgot "the dog ate our summons, and I have a note from my mother."
Judge said it well! I grew up with amazing friends who suffered in the foster care system as innocent kids with crappy parents in drugs and in and out of jail and later I became a foster parent during an emergency case with a student of my own… it was an absolute nightmare more so with the foster care employees (case manager, etc.) than the bio family which is pathetic. These employees make it very difficult for not only foster parents who do care and who do it for the right reasons but worse for the innocent kids trapped in their failure of a system!!! I feel for the workers who do their job and care because sadly there’s more failures than successes in this system.
Wow - that was crazy!! What a nerve. I thought it was the defendant first! 🤣
I'm a 74 year old born and raised Texan. Some of us Texans have a higher boiling point & it takes us longer to boil. But look out when we do. RUN. LOL. I love the Judge! Thanks for sharing this. More fun with Mike! 😁
I agree that they don't like being told what to do, they like being the ones doing the telling and being in charge of very VERY important issues on people's lives. They aren't looking at their screens and should be held in contempt. We've had 2 deaths locally due to this kind of arrogance in the DCFS in Northern Illinois. I say, sack them, jail or fine them until they get themselves in CHECK!!!
Exactly..
Thank you for your honesty on what you know and what you don't know. As well as giving us as much info as you can. That is one of the reasons why I respect you as a human being.
Just wow! They are not able to figure out how to make it work for 93 minutes?! Damn, in this long period of time they could have easily walk over to the court...
Sad that they don't prioritize the children that rely on them for help... They should really consider the change their career path! I wouldn't want someone like that working on my case!
Great video as usual!
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I loved, loved, loved this!!!!!! Yes, all incompetent individuals whom hold important positions (especially in regards to children!).... Should be held accountable!!! Thank you thank you for this!!! 😄😄😄
93 minutes late. Holy cow! Unfortunately this seems to be the case in 95% of the CPS groups. You can really talk about how understaffed and everything they are, but that is no excuse for the disrespect of the court or the peoples time. It really looks to me like they probably weren’t prepared, and didn’t even want to show. Another good one!
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I have worked with some compassionate, intelligent caseworkers who sacrifice their time and effort for kids at risk and with others who are are drunk with power and self- importance. Very few have been a parent and they often have lived sheltered lives of academia. Glad the court is holding them accountable.
I also work in the IT industry specifically with Microsoft SQL server. It astounds me how many people don’t understand very user friendly software like Zoom that has a clear and defined graphical user interface. It makes me concerned for our species. On another note, you never cease to entertain and make my day exponentially better Mike! Great video!
there can be issue with microphone permission, thats not so obvious for non tech people
@@PrashantBhardwaj13 In this case, we know the microphone wasn't the problem, since it did go on them off again (as the judge mentioned), and then they were heard just fine through the speakerphone.
Yay! I’m so happy this Judge held feet to the fire!! I never see that, unfortunately
I’m down here in Texas and there has been a lot of issues with CPS and foster care in the state during the last few years. Unfortunately this is an example that is indicative of the ongoing struggles, with relatively little initiative from state leadership.
Texas only cares about children before they are born.
I still have to ask my 23 year old how to do stuff on the internet. But one thing I worked on my own is zoom. Wasting time is what this is called!
We've been doing this for almost 2 years now. 🤦🏻♂️At this point I'd just mark a defendant as absent and move on to the next case. Courts have to deal with way too much other stuff for these shenanigans.
That’s obviously what they’re hoping for though so no. Hold them accountable.
Thanks. Really interesting, practical way to learn about our judicial system.
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I watched this happen live!! It was actually longer and they weren't even on the zoom like they were supposed to be. He has had many issues with them before and he is fed up! They have obligations and they are not keeping up with them and it is rubbing the judge the wrong way big time!! He runs his courtroom a certain way. He finds that disrespectful of them. The other attorney tried to help also but they are CPS! They know what they have to do and didn't do it and didn't even show up and then pull this crap!? He is DONE! You took out my favorite part "Well, I guess you better stop off at the bank on the way here then!" Whe she asked if she could pay by credit card or debit card cause she didn't have checks!! You didn't keep that in!!!! That was the best part hahaha
Love Judge Porter!
I watched hours and hours of hearings in his courtroom in 2020/2021, until my heart needed a break!
I've seen the failure of CPS in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area and thrilled when Judge Porter holds them in contempt!
These people have a duty of service to the children and to the court! These CPS employees have some of the worst behavior I've ever seen, having watched many different Juvenile Court hearings over the years!
Thank you, Mike, for showing this video clip, with commentary!💜
I am terrible with computers and social media. I also live in a rural area with only satellite internet available. That said, I was easily able to attend to medical appointments via Zoom. I was proud of myself for how easily I handled it. I theorize, as you did, this was intentional. Unless someone had a signal jammer, which their visual attempts rules out, it's impossible for all the computers and phones to malfunction. Judge Porter handled this beautifully!
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I work in IT, so it’s not completely unheard of for an entire office worth of PCs to be down.
I’m going to make a HUGE assumption here - based on there being only two devices, I’m guessing these devices ARE NOT domain joined (unless the govt has stepped up to using Azure, which I doubt for cost and security reasons). This would make their most likely failure the internet.
IDK what kind of providers they have in that area, but a whole block or a single office could be down.
Unless they’re paying for a business connection (much more expensive), then their internet is as likely to die as your home internet is.
Just for some perspective.
However, they could’ve joined by phone or called, etc. instead of dragging on for 90 minutes.
Totally intentional.
@@poohbear01x48 we have been doing this for 3 years now! Unacceptable!
@@heavenlydove I’m not excusing it by any means, just giving a bit of context to their claim about all of the computers being down.
I ended up ultimately saying that I did believe their lack of attendance was intentional.
Its TWO YEARS in the pandemic. 2 computers and 2 phones allegedly not working, didn't think to call the court, call their lawyer, have someone run to the court and get on a computer or in the courtroom (depending on availability), can't keep the video straight on the workers, didn't think to have video in one device and audio in the other, and NINETY-THREE MINUTES GO BY? The likelihood of that amount of obstacles at once is infantesimal. Either negligence so significant that neither should be in charge of children or, more likely, intentional actions.
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What he means is you have a choice, turn it on or we issue a warrant for your arrest.
Damn, he broke out "Recalcitrance" on them
Do you think that was 180 dollars worth of fun for the two people ? They got what they deserved. The judge did keep his cool. That was impressive. Thanks Mike, as always. Hugs and belly rubs to the twins. They seem happy and content. That says a lot about you ! Thanks again, Jerry
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Considering their job duties, I'm impressed he didn't order jail time right away.
WOW!! He is mad, rightfully so. He also should have said if you had all these issues why didnt you call here or come down and do this in person. I hope they paid the fine by 5pm!!
When it's something as important as court, you need to, not just be on time, but you need to have checked that your equipment is working, & paperwork, if necessary, is in perfect order.
Like you Mike, I'd have 'hit the proverbial roof'!!
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I am totally IT illiterate. But I would make damn sure someone taught me how to go on zoom well in advance. It is my responsibility to be there at the right day & time for a court case.
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Love it! I wish more people would hold bureaucrats accountable.
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Finally the contempt of court hammer was deployed! Way to go Judge Porter! I would have liked to see Judge Kim handle this!
Ignore a Judge's orders in court and you'll be held in contempt. Zoom allows these rude people get away with it....... (wooops, I wrote this too early, great job by the Judge) 👍
🤣 I was happy to see they didn't get away with it!
I logged into the wrong Zoom ONCE and it never happened again.
It's common sense, and if they don't have that many brain cells, then I go with the passive aggressive and am glad for the contempt of court fines.
Well deserved.
Its also sad that representatives from CPS are behaving this way.
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Let's call them Anti Social workers. They are a HUGE MESS!
Judge Porter is an excellent Judge and always holds EVERYONE at a high standard respectfully. LOVE HIM!!
I’ve always been taught that as a professional, you should be checking any technical issues at least 30 min to an hour before to allow for other options (ie, going to the court house, calling in, checking the room is correct, messaging the judge, etc). 93 minutes for *two adults* to figure out there was an issue? Nah, had to be a passive aggressive move
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Amazing how people think court is a picnic in the park. You come dressed not like a slob and not sit on the toilet taking a dump during a proceeding.
If you were on at 1:30 for a 1:30 court hearing you were late. I also don't believe that they sat there staring at a screen for an hour and half and nobody thought to call one of the other participants, or call the courthouse to see if they could get in touch with the judge's clerk, or anything.
Get ‘em, judge!
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I’m so happy Judge Kim’s court room made your channel. Lateph Adiniji is a defense attorney. Judge Kim has a good relationship with him as you’ll see in some of his past videos. Kim is not afraid to find parents and kids in contempt when warranted. Another frequent defense atty is Trent Lofton… some of the judges have no patience for his sense of humor though.
Is the word in your last sentence "patience"? I mean, maybe a judge can get a patent for his brand of humor...
@@yoshi6421 haha yes.. darn autocorrect ! Good catch!
Uncle Trent! And Ms. Lisa Herrick *swoon*
@@ame402 Autocorrect gets everybody haha
Having worked in IT - I can believe it - Sounds like a popup blocker and they didn't know what to check to continue - happens all the time
Ugh...that is frustrating. Now, if this was some low income defendant on drugs or alcohol, I could understand the mess. Its inexcusable for a government employee (CPS) to display this amount of supposed confusion and technical incompetence. If there was technical difficulties, they should have had an IT person trying to solve the problem.
That is just ridiculous, I swear people these days. No respect for anyone, but if it was them and they were waiting on someone, I guarantee you they wouldn't be as patient. Tell you this, the judge ain't buyin it!!!! Yes CPS means Child Protective Services, you are correct sir. Oh I am not buying all this, all of their electronics all of a sudden are malfunctioning. Awesome, the judge is finding them in contempt, that is what he needs to do!!!!!